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Oh, it is a Big Wednesday, a great Wednesday, a special show live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac. There's been one guest I've been trying to get for the last couple of years, Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner. You and I love the NBA. We start really watching it, really watching it late January February, and it becomes a big topic on our show. There's this sense that there's problems with illegal though they just succurred secured seventy five billion dollars in new rights. They're fine, but I'm I'm trying for two years to get Adam Silver on the show. So the NBA said, all right, we'll give you Adam Silver. And so I'm very excited. One hour from now, the NBA commissioner comes on and there's a lot of you know, it's funny about sports in America right now. Sports is great in America. I mean Major League Baseball. I've never seen a player like Otani. He's our babe, Ruth and the NBA, these international players, seven foot four guys bringing the ball up the floor. Incredible. But we generally view like NFL is all good and everybody else is struggling, and that's not true. Women's basketball, by the way, has emerged in this country as a power player now. So I'm so excited to talk to him about a variety of subjects. Adam Silver is gonna stop buying one hour and then I want to start with this numbers. I'm not a math guy, but numbers. So Deon Sanders to the Cowboys has been discussed. The Athletic is reporting that Jerry's gone in a bit of a solo mission and he's making calls himself to Deon Sanders. Jerry's just like, yeah, I'm getting a da now. He has an eight million dollar buyout, as respected reporter Sharene Williams says, Dion's going an eight million dollar buyout in Belichick A ten. Jerry doesn't do buyouts duly noted that Clarence Hill, But on this show, Clarence Hill Junior, respected as well, says he doesn't do buyouts and he doesn't mind the chatter. Okay, so you guys are talking numbers. I'm gonna give both of these fine reporters other numbers. Jerry's eighty two. When you get older, everything changes. You think about your mortality once. The first number your age is six or seven. Secondly, the Cowboys were seven to ten. And here's a third number. You got to pay Dak a b quarterback, one hundred and twenty nine million guaranteed going forward. Those are the numbers I see, not eight million. And I think rich guys don't like dead coaching money. I don't think they like buyouts. But I think when you get older, you see the world differently. You think about your legacy and how you're gonna leave it for others. Does he want to leave his kids a mess? And I think Dallas is in much worse shape than people think. I really do. I think they're in big trouble just in the NFC Detroit, Philadelphia, Green Bay, in the Rams, not only have better rosters now, significantly better, significantly better, they have better from offices they are drafting. I mean, the Rams do not miss on defensive draft picks. Philadelphia didn't miss on draft picks at all. So those teams are better now. And I'm not even talking Baltimore, Kansas City and the Bills Chiefs. I'm not talking the big three in the AFC. I'm not talking league wide. I'm not talking Chiefs, Mahomes, Reid, I'm not talking Josh Allen, the great Baltimore Raven team. I get those out. In fact, I won't even use the big dogs in the NFC. Just in your own division, I see major obstacles. Jaden Daniels maybe as good or better than Andrew Lucket's a rookie. This kid looks like Mahomes plus Lamar Jackson. This is year one. Look at his passer rating the fourth quarter. This is not a playoff roster. Got him into the playoffs and just won a road game. Jayden Daniels, Is this our next Mahomes? And then there's Philadelphia's roster, which has so many good young players. They're going nowhere for five years. So and this is what worries me lack of self awareness. The Patriots new with Gerrod Mayo. They made a mistake. It happens. Great owners make mistakes. They pivoted one year Arizona, which doesn't have a great owner. Josh Rosen, Steve Wilkes, they pivoted one year. I think Dallas is in danger of becoming a Jurassic Park. We'll call it jair Jaassic park where an old guy meets you at the gate and shows you the facilities, and you're really impressed with the tour, and then all of a sudden, you start seeing things the old guy doesn't like. What happens if the fence breaks and the t Rex gets out, Well, let me tell you what the Dallas Cowboys. The fence broke, You have a meddling owner, you have one weapon. You have a quarterback that's paid at a Mahomes level, and he's about Baker Mayfield, and you've whiffed on your last two first round picks appear to be whiffs. I think Dallas is in big trouble. And even organizations that we don't look at as elite, like Arizona's, like, this isn't working. We're pivoting. So listen, the Patriots just did that. I think the Patriots make the playoffs next year, just like I called Washington making the playoffs this year. Washington new clean house. Let's change everything new England's like we made a mistake. Let's clean house. Dallas is clinging to family, Dallas is clinging to the past. Dallas thinks they're close, Dallas thinks they're a player away. So to me, this is a Jurassic Park, and the fence is broken, the t rex is running wild. It's only going to get worse. I'm not even sure if I'd resign Micah. I think I'd move in for a first round pick in a week draft. Michael Irvin yesterday did say, however, I don't want to hear that it's not a coveted job. Michael Irvin defended Jerry and said it is a covenant job.

Oh, it is a Big Wednesday, a great Wednesday, a special show live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac. There's been one guest I've been trying to get for the last couple of years, Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner. You and I love the NBA. We start really watching it, really watching it late January February, and it becomes a big topic on our show. There's this sense that there's problems with illegal though they just succurred secured seventy five billion dollars in new rights. They're fine, but I'm I'm trying for two years to get Adam Silver on the show. So the NBA said, all right, we'll give you Adam Silver. And so I'm very excited. One hour from now, the NBA commissioner comes on and there's a lot of you know, it's funny about sports in America right now. Sports is great in America. I mean Major League Baseball. I've never seen a player like Otani. He's our babe, Ruth and the NBA, these international players, seven foot four guys bringing the ball up the floor. Incredible. But we generally view like NFL is all good and everybody else is struggling, and that's not true. Women's basketball, by the way, has emerged in this country as a power player now. So I'm so excited to talk to him about a variety of subjects. Adam Silver is gonna stop buying one hour and then I want to start with this numbers. I'm not a math guy, but numbers. So Deon Sanders to the Cowboys has been discussed. The Athletic is reporting that Jerry's gone in a bit of a solo mission and he's making calls himself to Deon Sanders. Jerry's just like, yeah, I'm getting a da now. He has an eight million dollar buyout, as respected reporter Sharene Williams says, Dion's going an eight million dollar buyout in Belichick A ten. Jerry doesn't do buyouts duly noted that Clarence Hill, But on this show, Clarence Hill Junior, respected as well, says he doesn't do buyouts and he doesn't mind the chatter. Okay, so you guys are talking numbers. I'm gonna give both of these fine reporters other numbers. Jerry's eighty two. When you get older, everything changes. You think about your mortality once. The first number your age is six or seven. Secondly, the Cowboys were seven to ten. And here's a third number. You got to pay Dak a b quarterback, one hundred and twenty nine million guaranteed going forward. Those are the numbers I see, not eight million. And I think rich guys don't like dead coaching money. I don't think they like buyouts. But I think when you get older, you see the world differently. You think about your legacy and how you're gonna leave it for others. Does he want to leave his kids a mess? And I think Dallas is in much worse shape than people think. I really do. I think they're in big trouble just in the NFC Detroit, Philadelphia, Green Bay, in the Rams, not only have better rosters now, significantly better, significantly better, they have better from offices they are drafting. I mean, the Rams do not miss on defensive draft picks. Philadelphia didn't miss on draft picks at all. So those teams are better now. And I'm not even talking Baltimore, Kansas City and the Bills Chiefs. I'm not talking the big three in the AFC. I'm not talking league wide. I'm not talking Chiefs, Mahomes, Reid, I'm not talking Josh Allen, the great Baltimore Raven team. I get those out. In fact, I won't even use the big dogs in the NFC. Just in your own division, I see major obstacles. Jaden Daniels maybe as good or better than Andrew Lucket's a rookie. This kid looks like Mahomes plus Lamar Jackson. This is year one. Look at his passer rating the fourth quarter. This is not a playoff roster. Got him into the playoffs and just won a road game. Jayden Daniels, Is this our next Mahomes? And then there's Philadelphia's roster, which has so many good young players. They're going nowhere for five years. So and this is what worries me lack of self awareness. The Patriots new with Gerrod Mayo. They made a mistake. It happens. Great owners make mistakes. They pivoted one year Arizona, which doesn't have a great owner. Josh Rosen, Steve Wilkes, they pivoted one year. I think Dallas is in danger of becoming a Jurassic Park. We'll call it jair Jaassic park where an old guy meets you at the gate and shows you the facilities, and you're really impressed with the tour, and then all of a sudden, you start seeing things the old guy doesn't like. What happens if the fence breaks and the t Rex gets out, Well, let me tell you what the Dallas Cowboys. The fence broke, You have a meddling owner, you have one weapon. You have a quarterback that's paid at a Mahomes level, and he's about Baker Mayfield, and you've whiffed on your last two first round picks appear to be whiffs. I think Dallas is in big trouble. And even organizations that we don't look at as elite, like Arizona's, like, this isn't working. We're pivoting. So listen, the Patriots just did that. I think the Patriots make the playoffs next year, just like I called Washington making the playoffs this year. Washington new clean house. Let's change everything new England's like we made a mistake. Let's clean house. Dallas is clinging to family, Dallas is clinging to the past. Dallas thinks they're close, Dallas thinks they're a player away. So to me, this is a Jurassic Park, and the fence is broken, the t rex is running wild. It's only going to get worse. I'm not even sure if I'd resign Micah. I think I'd move in for a first round pick in a week draft. Michael Irvin yesterday did say, however, I don't want to hear that it's not a coveted job. Michael Irvin defended Jerry and said it is a covenant job.

They are only thirty two jobs in the National Football League. Thirty to each one of those jobs going to pay you book nor to somewhere six seven million.

They are only thirty two jobs in the National Football League. Thirty to each one of those jobs going to pay you book nor to somewhere six seven million.

Dollars a year. That coach is all over the world.

Dollars a year. That coach is all over the world.

That probably wants to come to coach if they knew how to coach. In the National Football League. This is a Coveny job. All thirty two of them are coveted.

That probably wants to come to coach if they knew how to coach. In the National Football League. This is a Coveny job. All thirty two of them are coveted.

Jobs in this country and mostly probably in this world, So that right there is not right to even say that. Now the Cowboys is as covenant as any other team in the National Football League.

Jobs in this country and mostly probably in this world, So that right there is not right to even say that. Now the Cowboys is as covenant as any other team in the National Football League.

So now I don't believe that. I think it starts with ownership. And the number I see is eighty two years old, seven and ten and one hundred and twenty nine million to DAK and an organization that increasingly last couple of years can't get their first round picks right. The fence is broken. So what I'm about to say you'll roll your eyes at and that's hurtful. But I've been saying this that you've got to be able to see the problems before they get really bad, like Dallas. So Mike Tomlin, there was a story out this morning that he's not actually sure what they're going to do at quarterback, which I see as progress. Russell Wilson has said I want to be back, and Mike Tomlin is at least acknowledging it's not all right here.

So now I don't believe that. I think it starts with ownership. And the number I see is eighty two years old, seven and ten and one hundred and twenty nine million to DAK and an organization that increasingly last couple of years can't get their first round picks right. The fence is broken. So what I'm about to say you'll roll your eyes at and that's hurtful. But I've been saying this that you've got to be able to see the problems before they get really bad, like Dallas. So Mike Tomlin, there was a story out this morning that he's not actually sure what they're going to do at quarterback, which I see as progress. Russell Wilson has said I want to be back, and Mike Tomlin is at least acknowledging it's not all right here.

Stuck is kind of a helpless feeling, and I don't know that I feel helpless. Definitely doesn't feel in the mood for optimism or the selling of optimism. I don't know that that's appropriate. You know, it's disappointing not to be working. And so that's where we are.

Stuck is kind of a helpless feeling, and I don't know that I feel helpless. Definitely doesn't feel in the mood for optimism or the selling of optimism. I don't know that that's appropriate. You know, it's disappointing not to be working. And so that's where we are.

All right.

All right.

So you may not think this is happening, but just hear me out for a couple minutes. Are the Steelers becoming the New York Giants who the Steelers would look at now and go a mess. Legendary quarterback gets you to a couple of Super Bowls. Elion big Ben family run for generations, historic franchise, prides itself in stability, and then the quarterback retires and it gets ugly really quick. Now, the Giants winning got ugly really quick, and the Steelers still win more, but their offense is pitiful. Now, to the Steelers credit, they don't run through coaches. But to the Giants credit, they've won a playoff game in the last eight years, and so post Big Ben, as the NFL made a massive pivot to offense over the last seven to eight years. They can't get the quarterback right, they can't get the running game right, they can't get the O line right, and they struggle to get the OC right. The one shining lot light is George Pickens, the wide receiver. But a story came out yesterday that he literally showed up late to a game on Christmas against the Chiefs, and he is regularly late to games. That's your star. No, that's just called a talented kid. They come and go in this league. That's just a talented kid. That's not a leader. So since twenty nineteen, you don't think you're the Giants. But since twenty nineteen, in an offensive league where you can't get quarterback, running back O line, right, the Steelers. And remember, their defense gets them in good field position, their defense takes the ball away, their defense gets sacks, making it easier on the offense. In Pittsburgh, they have scored fewer touchdowns in the last five years than the Jags, Raiders, Bears, and Browns. The good news, though, you're a couple ahead of the Giants, right you Steeler fan looks at the Giants and goes pitiful. But the Eagles and the ram and the Ravens and the Chiefs and the top offenses look at Pittsburgh's offense, which now is what Hoyst trophies, and they see pitiful. That's what they see. I mean we all look at Pittsburgh's offense and we all just kind of got It's here are the eight teams without a playoff win, eight teams lent a playoff win in the last eight seasons. Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders, Panthers, Cardinals, Broncos, Bears, Jets. You know who's not on that list, The New York Giants, who you look down at. I do think Tomlin's saying there's quotes here. I don't know if I don't know if we have the quoterback in the room, that is progress. But you know, right now, I think it's interesting when franchises that are proud like Dallas and Pittsburgh look at the Jags and the Panthers and the Jets and the Giants, you do get you are much closer to that than the Bills, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Lions, and the Rams. Adam Silver in forty five minutes joining us today, it is getting very interesting. You know, you can always tell j mack before we brought you on here, I took you out to dinner. Well, Mike McCarty, When you get dinner, when you share a glass of veno and you chop it up with people for dinner. That usually means something special is happening. Mike McCarthy is having dinner reportedly tonight in Chicago.

So you may not think this is happening, but just hear me out for a couple minutes. Are the Steelers becoming the New York Giants who the Steelers would look at now and go a mess. Legendary quarterback gets you to a couple of Super Bowls. Elion big Ben family run for generations, historic franchise, prides itself in stability, and then the quarterback retires and it gets ugly really quick. Now, the Giants winning got ugly really quick, and the Steelers still win more, but their offense is pitiful. Now, to the Steelers credit, they don't run through coaches. But to the Giants credit, they've won a playoff game in the last eight years, and so post Big Ben, as the NFL made a massive pivot to offense over the last seven to eight years. They can't get the quarterback right, they can't get the running game right, they can't get the O line right, and they struggle to get the OC right. The one shining lot light is George Pickens, the wide receiver. But a story came out yesterday that he literally showed up late to a game on Christmas against the Chiefs, and he is regularly late to games. That's your star. No, that's just called a talented kid. They come and go in this league. That's just a talented kid. That's not a leader. So since twenty nineteen, you don't think you're the Giants. But since twenty nineteen, in an offensive league where you can't get quarterback, running back O line, right, the Steelers. And remember, their defense gets them in good field position, their defense takes the ball away, their defense gets sacks, making it easier on the offense. In Pittsburgh, they have scored fewer touchdowns in the last five years than the Jags, Raiders, Bears, and Browns. The good news, though, you're a couple ahead of the Giants, right you Steeler fan looks at the Giants and goes pitiful. But the Eagles and the ram and the Ravens and the Chiefs and the top offenses look at Pittsburgh's offense, which now is what Hoyst trophies, and they see pitiful. That's what they see. I mean we all look at Pittsburgh's offense and we all just kind of got It's here are the eight teams without a playoff win, eight teams lent a playoff win in the last eight seasons. Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders, Panthers, Cardinals, Broncos, Bears, Jets. You know who's not on that list, The New York Giants, who you look down at. I do think Tomlin's saying there's quotes here. I don't know if I don't know if we have the quoterback in the room, that is progress. But you know, right now, I think it's interesting when franchises that are proud like Dallas and Pittsburgh look at the Jags and the Panthers and the Jets and the Giants, you do get you are much closer to that than the Bills, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Lions, and the Rams. Adam Silver in forty five minutes joining us today, it is getting very interesting. You know, you can always tell j mack before we brought you on here, I took you out to dinner. Well, Mike McCarty, When you get dinner, when you share a glass of veno and you chop it up with people for dinner. That usually means something special is happening. Mike McCarthy is having dinner reportedly tonight in Chicago.

Wait, was this before I got to Fox way back two days.

Wait, was this before I got to Fox way back two days.

I don't remember much of your life, but I know the dinner really was your wife and my wife there, Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that was like twenty fifteen. Yeahah so Mike McCarthy, it's dinner, steaks and a glass of wine tonight in Chicago.

I don't remember much of your life, but I know the dinner really was your wife and my wife there, Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that was like twenty fifteen. Yeahah so Mike McCarthy, it's dinner, steaks and a glass of wine tonight in Chicago.

Feels kind of standard. I do have a quick question this George Pickket's showing up late for a game. It's crazy. I was reading about it.

Feels kind of standard. I do have a quick question this George Pickket's showing up late for a game. It's crazy. I was reading about it.

So what happens if I show up, like I don't know twenty five minutes after the show starts.

So what happens if I show up, like I don't know twenty five minutes after the show starts.

Well, of all, could be traffic. It'st LA, certainly, and it was Christmas, so you do give a guy a bit of a pass. But I think the bigger issue with Pickens is late to practice, late to games, on field disruptions. I think it's the classic drip, drip drip. Now the faucets broke, so it's not just a moment. People make mistakes, they get in recks. They this is not a dog ate my homework thing yet, but it does when it starts to compound with George Pickens, and he is right now the centerpiece of the offense. I mean again, Jalen Hurts may not be the centerpiece of Phillies offense, but he is reliable, he's a leader, he shows up. So I mean, the difference in this league often is not just talent. New England's dynasty was built around leadership and Kansas City's dynasty. They don't have the best team. Philadelphia's got better players, Detroit's got It's built around dependable, sustainable leadership.

Well, of all, could be traffic. It'st LA, certainly, and it was Christmas, so you do give a guy a bit of a pass. But I think the bigger issue with Pickens is late to practice, late to games, on field disruptions. I think it's the classic drip, drip drip. Now the faucets broke, so it's not just a moment. People make mistakes, they get in recks. They this is not a dog ate my homework thing yet, but it does when it starts to compound with George Pickens, and he is right now the centerpiece of the offense. I mean again, Jalen Hurts may not be the centerpiece of Phillies offense, but he is reliable, he's a leader, he shows up. So I mean, the difference in this league often is not just talent. New England's dynasty was built around leadership and Kansas City's dynasty. They don't have the best team. Philadelphia's got better players, Detroit's got It's built around dependable, sustainable leadership.

So why then are we hearing after the Steelers get eliminated Pickens showing up late on Christmas Mike Tomlin. There were some reports that Mike Tomlin didn't intervene when Arthur Smith.

So why then are we hearing after the Steelers get eliminated Pickens showing up late on Christmas Mike Tomlin. There were some reports that Mike Tomlin didn't intervene when Arthur Smith.

And Russell Wells.

And Russell Wells.

So like all of a sudden, there's this negative flow of stories about Tomlin's leadership.

So like all of a sudden, there's this negative flow of stories about Tomlin's leadership.

Are they is somebody trying to shove him out of pace?

Are they is somebody trying to shove him out of pace?

Well, I would say stories get out when somebody wants them out. So why did the Pickens story get out? That could be Tomlin's side saying, hey, I'm getting buried here. This is what I had to deal with.

Well, I would say stories get out when somebody wants them out. So why did the Pickens story get out? That could be Tomlin's side saying, hey, I'm getting buried here. This is what I had to deal with.

Or is it the other side, Hey, this guy's enabling Pickens. They announced the inactiveties.

Or is it the other side, Hey, this guy's enabling Pickens. They announced the inactiveties.

Well do you really think the Pickens party would want this out?

Well do you really think the Pickens party would want this out?

Well, I think somebody's trying to say, hey, Tomlin doesn't have control. He didn't have it over Deontay Johnson, Antonio Brown. This is a pattern. And also Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson weren't getting along. That now comes out that wasn't out there during the season. I'm like, I just wonder if there's some kind of internal issue with Mike Tomlin.

Well, I think somebody's trying to say, hey, Tomlin doesn't have control. He didn't have it over Deontay Johnson, Antonio Brown. This is a pattern. And also Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson weren't getting along. That now comes out that wasn't out there during the season. I'm like, I just wonder if there's some kind of internal issue with Mike Tomlin.

Smith didn't get along with the Ross, Peyton didn't get along with the Ross. Pete Carroll at the end was tired to Ross. It's it's a Ross's shots. I mean that's seriously. If you go to three different jobs and you don't get along with people, it's not the people, it's you, right, Like they always say, in a divorce, the one thing that is a constant in a divorce is you, Like you're just bringing you to a new relationship. That's why seventy percent of second marriages and then divorce because you took you, you thought you were getting rid of the problem. You are the problem.

Smith didn't get along with the Ross, Peyton didn't get along with the Ross. Pete Carroll at the end was tired to Ross. It's it's a Ross's shots. I mean that's seriously. If you go to three different jobs and you don't get along with people, it's not the people, it's you, right, Like they always say, in a divorce, the one thing that is a constant in a divorce is you, Like you're just bringing you to a new relationship. That's why seventy percent of second marriages and then divorce because you took you, you thought you were getting rid of the problem. You are the problem.

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So they are rolling out the red carpet for Mike McCarthy and the Bears. I think Mike McCarthy smartly read the tea leaves bailed on Dallas, which I think is devastating potentially for the Cowboys because they can't even now interview the top two coordinator candidates, Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson from Detroit. So they're rolling out the red carpet. Just want you to consider this. The Commanders were broken, the Broncos were broken, The Chargers were broken. What did they all do? And by the way, the Patriots were broken, they all went and hired experienced head coaches. Three of them have made the Super Bowl three or four. I know Mike McCarthy's ceiling is not Andy Reid, it's not Sean McVeigh. I get that, But his floor in eighteen years, twelve times is the playoffs. The Bears currently are not a high ceiling team. Let's just say this, and this is what his resume proves that Mike McCarthy very quickly stabilizes you and makes you a winning team. I'm not talking thirteen twelve, eleven wins. You become a winning team nine to eight, ten and seven, and he stabilizes you. And then in four years you're like, yeah, but we only won one playoff game. We've hit a ceiling, all right, that's the worst case scenario. And then you, as Caleb Williams signs his second contract and his first massive contract, you go get the whiz Kid. Then you need stability. I would hire Sully before I go Top Gun Maverick here, Chicago, Kate, you are bat. You can't even line up properly. I saw this morning. You were third in the league in false starts and fifth in most illegal formations. You just can't. You can't even land the plane. Forget about doing circles and top Gun upstairs. Gotta land the plane. So my take is nine to eight and ten and seven is a great place for Caleb Williams to be going forward. You've been over five one hundred one time in twelve years. Instead of dumping your net worth into bitcoin, how about you just open a savings account first and get the basics down, like not illegal formation four times a game. Yeah, I mean you're viewing yourself as hey, we're stable. No, no, no, you're not. This isn't a little turbulence. You're crashing a year after year after year, and so again twelve times in eighteen years, three different quarterbacks, one an old legend, won an ascending legend, and one paid like a legend, and you keep getting all of them to the playoffs. Eighteen years, twelve playoffs. I'm just asking you, Bears, to upgrade from life support to stable condition. Let's not worry about having perfect abs yet or running a four fifty mile. Let's just get the stable condition and a better diet. Mike McCarthy is stability and winning and playoffs and even in four years, if you're like, yeah, I mean yeah, we win nine and ten games, y'all take that. That's landing the plane. Here's Caleb Williams and I love this. He was on a podcast. Here's Caleb Williams on what he's looking for for the coach.

So they are rolling out the red carpet for Mike McCarthy and the Bears. I think Mike McCarthy smartly read the tea leaves bailed on Dallas, which I think is devastating potentially for the Cowboys because they can't even now interview the top two coordinator candidates, Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson from Detroit. So they're rolling out the red carpet. Just want you to consider this. The Commanders were broken, the Broncos were broken, The Chargers were broken. What did they all do? And by the way, the Patriots were broken, they all went and hired experienced head coaches. Three of them have made the Super Bowl three or four. I know Mike McCarthy's ceiling is not Andy Reid, it's not Sean McVeigh. I get that, But his floor in eighteen years, twelve times is the playoffs. The Bears currently are not a high ceiling team. Let's just say this, and this is what his resume proves that Mike McCarthy very quickly stabilizes you and makes you a winning team. I'm not talking thirteen twelve, eleven wins. You become a winning team nine to eight, ten and seven, and he stabilizes you. And then in four years you're like, yeah, but we only won one playoff game. We've hit a ceiling, all right, that's the worst case scenario. And then you, as Caleb Williams signs his second contract and his first massive contract, you go get the whiz Kid. Then you need stability. I would hire Sully before I go Top Gun Maverick here, Chicago, Kate, you are bat. You can't even line up properly. I saw this morning. You were third in the league in false starts and fifth in most illegal formations. You just can't. You can't even land the plane. Forget about doing circles and top Gun upstairs. Gotta land the plane. So my take is nine to eight and ten and seven is a great place for Caleb Williams to be going forward. You've been over five one hundred one time in twelve years. Instead of dumping your net worth into bitcoin, how about you just open a savings account first and get the basics down, like not illegal formation four times a game. Yeah, I mean you're viewing yourself as hey, we're stable. No, no, no, you're not. This isn't a little turbulence. You're crashing a year after year after year, and so again twelve times in eighteen years, three different quarterbacks, one an old legend, won an ascending legend, and one paid like a legend, and you keep getting all of them to the playoffs. Eighteen years, twelve playoffs. I'm just asking you, Bears, to upgrade from life support to stable condition. Let's not worry about having perfect abs yet or running a four fifty mile. Let's just get the stable condition and a better diet. Mike McCarthy is stability and winning and playoffs and even in four years, if you're like, yeah, I mean yeah, we win nine and ten games, y'all take that. That's landing the plane. Here's Caleb Williams and I love this. He was on a podcast. Here's Caleb Williams on what he's looking for for the coach.

What are some qualities that you'd want here in your next head coach?

What are some qualities that you'd want here in your next head coach?

Strong minded, a leader of men, selfishly.

Strong minded, a leader of men, selfishly.

I want an officeive minded guy so I can build with him and you know, be with be with that coach for the next yeah, nineteen seventeen, fifteen years, helping find the right guys to to you know, I mean, win championships. That's some I mean, that's the only goal that I have for my NFL career.

I want an officeive minded guy so I can build with him and you know, be with be with that coach for the next yeah, nineteen seventeen, fifteen years, helping find the right guys to to you know, I mean, win championships. That's some I mean, that's the only goal that I have for my NFL career.

By the way, I kind of like when the star receivers hair matches the team's colors. I don't know, it's just me. I don't know why I like that, but I like that thought. I want a strong leader, you know, I want a guy to be cool. If I had an offensive coach, he didn't make a demand. He thought it was really cool if he had an offensive coach. I know, y'all think Ben Johnson and Mike McCarthy coach the different sides of the ball. They're both offensive coaches. One has got a very snazzy trick playbook, which is much easier to do when you have Jared Goff, the best o line in football, great tight end, great receivers, and two great backs. Was Ben Johnson doing that four years ago? Or did you just learn football? It's much easier. Like Andy Reid, you ever noticed this, It's much easier to be tricky when you're great at the basics, like like Chicago's got to get the basics down. J Mack of the News.

By the way, I kind of like when the star receivers hair matches the team's colors. I don't know, it's just me. I don't know why I like that, but I like that thought. I want a strong leader, you know, I want a guy to be cool. If I had an offensive coach, he didn't make a demand. He thought it was really cool if he had an offensive coach. I know, y'all think Ben Johnson and Mike McCarthy coach the different sides of the ball. They're both offensive coaches. One has got a very snazzy trick playbook, which is much easier to do when you have Jared Goff, the best o line in football, great tight end, great receivers, and two great backs. Was Ben Johnson doing that four years ago? Or did you just learn football? It's much easier. Like Andy Reid, you ever noticed this, It's much easier to be tricky when you're great at the basics, like like Chicago's got to get the basics down. J Mack of the News.

No, no, this is the herd Line News.

No, no, this is the herd Line News.

Let's start with everybody's favorite NFL team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

Let's start with everybody's favorite NFL team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

Colin Patrick Mahomes and Travis k Elsey one of.

Colin Patrick Mahomes and Travis k Elsey one of.

The most productive playoff duos of all time. Mahomes isn't expecting that to change this postseason, despite.

The most productive playoff duos of all time. Mahomes isn't expecting that to change this postseason, despite.

Kelsey having kind of a down year.

Kelsey having kind of a down year.

I know we used the W word washed with him at time, but come on, he's had three weeks of rest for this Texans game, and the quarterback is expecting big things.

I know we used the W word washed with him at time, but come on, he's had three weeks of rest for this Texans game, and the quarterback is expecting big things.

I think he's just the greats man. They step up in the playoffs and it's just higher intensity and on. The best players and the best leaders step up and make the best plays. And he's done that, and so I expect the same from him going into this playoffs.

I think he's just the greats man. They step up in the playoffs and it's just higher intensity and on. The best players and the best leaders step up and make the best plays. And he's done that, and so I expect the same from him going into this playoffs.

He'll be fine. It's like he's very much Gronk. When the big lights are on, he'll be great. And that's always been the This is what for Saul. Here's what we forget about tight ends. They have to block defensive ends and blitzers, so these guys take a beat. That's why I've always said tight ends with the forget running backs. Tight ends are underrated and underpaid. Tight Ends are underpaid. They have to block the best pass rusher, often on the other team, the best pass rusher, not a safety on a blitz, not a corner on the corner they're blitz. Here comes Miles Garrett, tight end, slide over and block him. And they have to be big play specialists now down the field vertically. So my take is being has been they pick their spots. You cannot play at an A plus plus level as a tight end in this league. As you age eighteen weeks a year. There's absolutely no way you're getting hit too much. They're asking too much. So if my tight end, and I'm saying you can do that when you're a young tight end, brock Bauers can do it now, But when you're a nine to ten to twelve year tight end, I am not getting the best of you every week. You're basically a linebacker on offense. I'm not getting eighteen weeks unless you're like Ray Lewis early years Brian Urlacker. So I think tight end is a position. I like how they've used Noah Gray and kind of fostered a new relationship with Mahomes. I like that. But when the lights go on, the big red light, Travis Kelsey will be great.

He'll be fine. It's like he's very much Gronk. When the big lights are on, he'll be great. And that's always been the This is what for Saul. Here's what we forget about tight ends. They have to block defensive ends and blitzers, so these guys take a beat. That's why I've always said tight ends with the forget running backs. Tight ends are underrated and underpaid. Tight Ends are underpaid. They have to block the best pass rusher, often on the other team, the best pass rusher, not a safety on a blitz, not a corner on the corner they're blitz. Here comes Miles Garrett, tight end, slide over and block him. And they have to be big play specialists now down the field vertically. So my take is being has been they pick their spots. You cannot play at an A plus plus level as a tight end in this league. As you age eighteen weeks a year. There's absolutely no way you're getting hit too much. They're asking too much. So if my tight end, and I'm saying you can do that when you're a young tight end, brock Bauers can do it now, But when you're a nine to ten to twelve year tight end, I am not getting the best of you every week. You're basically a linebacker on offense. I'm not getting eighteen weeks unless you're like Ray Lewis early years Brian Urlacker. So I think tight end is a position. I like how they've used Noah Gray and kind of fostered a new relationship with Mahomes. I like that. But when the lights go on, the big red light, Travis Kelsey will be great.

It reminds me of you in August. You're kind of coasting past show. You know, the NFL is coming up in Yes, save yourself.

It reminds me of you in August. You're kind of coasting past show. You know, the NFL is coming up in Yes, save yourself.

There's a lot. There's a lot of daunting job here, a lot of lifting.

There's a lot. There's a lot of daunting job here, a lot of lifting.

Yes, yes, chilling on the beach and uh yeah where one of your houses and uh yeah, we're gonna see Kelsey blow up. By the way I looked into it. Texans not great at defending tight ends. Their middle linebacker, the guy who decked Trevor Lawrence. He's good against a run, less so against the past. So Kelsey could be in line for a big game this weekend.

Yes, yes, chilling on the beach and uh yeah where one of your houses and uh yeah, we're gonna see Kelsey blow up. By the way I looked into it. Texans not great at defending tight ends. Their middle linebacker, the guy who decked Trevor Lawrence. He's good against a run, less so against the past. So Kelsey could be in line for a big game this weekend.

Next up is.

Next up is.

The Detroit Lions, the other one seed. Boy, they've been walking wounded second half of the season. But how about this Colin running back David Montgomery is back in the lineup. It's official after reports that he could miss the entire season.

The Detroit Lions, the other one seed. Boy, they've been walking wounded second half of the season. But how about this Colin running back David Montgomery is back in the lineup. It's official after reports that he could miss the entire season.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just refreshing t be back in a position to work. And I hope your team, Uh yeah, I missed it, So I'm happy to be that.

Just refreshing t be back in a position to work. And I hope your team, Uh yeah, I missed it, So I'm happy to be that.

Pretty get back if you are Detroit and it's sound like they're rushing him back. You know, he's been out a bit, and it sounds like it's not super serious. Obviously need his health. They're gonna need him to win the Super Bowl. I don't know about this weekend against Washington, but uh, pretty impressive.

Pretty get back if you are Detroit and it's sound like they're rushing him back. You know, he's been out a bit, and it sounds like it's not super serious. Obviously need his health. They're gonna need him to win the Super Bowl. I don't know about this weekend against Washington, but uh, pretty impressive.

They got the linebacker Alzaloni.

They got the linebacker Alzaloni.

Alzaloni back, yeah, and now they're slowly getting healthier. They're the odds on favorite to win the NFC and this morning, I think they will. I think the Commanders will be an interesting test. And by the way, you know why play the Commanders is very interesting for Detroit because if they get to the Super Bowl, they're gonna have to go through Jalen Hurts, who moves Lamar Jackson, josh Allen Mahomes. So they don't see that at practice. With Jared Goff, the Lions have your classic pocket quarterback. That's what they see at practice. But Jaden Daniels is what Hill is what Detroit will face in the super Bowl. Jalen Hurts is a little bit of what you'd face in the Super Bowl. You know what you won't face in the Super Bowl Matt Stafford or Jared Goff. Pocket guys So for me, this is a great opportunity for Detroit's defense to get a preview of Lamar Job or Mahomes. It's a really important game to learn from, not just win.

Alzaloni back, yeah, and now they're slowly getting healthier. They're the odds on favorite to win the NFC and this morning, I think they will. I think the Commanders will be an interesting test. And by the way, you know why play the Commanders is very interesting for Detroit because if they get to the Super Bowl, they're gonna have to go through Jalen Hurts, who moves Lamar Jackson, josh Allen Mahomes. So they don't see that at practice. With Jared Goff, the Lions have your classic pocket quarterback. That's what they see at practice. But Jaden Daniels is what Hill is what Detroit will face in the super Bowl. Jalen Hurts is a little bit of what you'd face in the Super Bowl. You know what you won't face in the Super Bowl Matt Stafford or Jared Goff. Pocket guys So for me, this is a great opportunity for Detroit's defense to get a preview of Lamar Job or Mahomes. It's a really important game to learn from, not just win.

I think a good point final story is the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy obviously ended things on Monday, and now Cowboys players are popping off about the decision. Dak Prescott said he was bummed, and another star addressed the decision on of course his podcast.

I think a good point final story is the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy obviously ended things on Monday, and now Cowboys players are popping off about the decision. Dak Prescott said he was bummed, and another star addressed the decision on of course his podcast.

Losing a great coach like Mike Hurtz. But it's gonna be very interesting off seasons. You know, it's gonna be very interesting, you know, due to the free agents, the coaching. It's like, you know, it's going to be a complete reset. So it's gonna be a very interesting and challenging off season.

Losing a great coach like Mike Hurtz. But it's gonna be very interesting off seasons. You know, it's gonna be very interesting, you know, due to the free agents, the coaching. It's like, you know, it's going to be a complete reset. So it's gonna be a very interesting and challenging off season.

Shall see Parsons, I'm getting Draymond Green.

Shall see Parsons, I'm getting Draymond Green.

Vibes with this whole podcast thing, and like you could look and see he does not seem thrill.

Vibes with this whole podcast thing, and like you could look and see he does not seem thrill.

McCarthy's not back, Like the tone in his voice, the fidgeting, he just doesn't seem really happy. We know Dak is bummed.

McCarthy's not back, Like the tone in his voice, the fidgeting, he just doesn't seem really happy. We know Dak is bummed.

Jerry Jones has some pressure here to deliver, Like if I don't know the Ellen Moore is going to stimulate the fan base, and they ain't getting dyon.

Jerry Jones has some pressure here to deliver, Like if I don't know the Ellen Moore is going to stimulate the fan base, and they ain't getting dyon.

I know what Michael Irvan was saying. I don't think that's.

I know what Michael Irvan was saying. I don't think that's.

Why don't you think they're getting deon?

Why don't you think they're getting deon?

This is not happening. Why do you go to the Cowboys.

This is not happening. Why do you go to the Cowboys.

Ten million dollars a year, America's team.

Ten million dollars a year, America's team.

Making a ton of money in Colorado where the cost of lieper well. And also, his son is going to be in the NFL playing on Sundays. You think he wants to be coaching or watching his son on Sundays or going to the games.

Making a ton of money in Colorado where the cost of lieper well. And also, his son is going to be in the NFL playing on Sundays. You think he wants to be coaching or watching his son on Sundays or going to the games.

That's actually a good point.

That's actually a good point.

He said he wants to coach his son.

He said he wants to coach his son.

I just yeah, let me tell you something. He didn't have the choice. You can do that in college football. The NFL's not holding their breath. This is not the NBA, which is a star driven league. The Lakers brawny. We all get it. Lebron has helped carry the league for fifteen years. We get that. That's not the NFL. Nobody cares now. They may sign your son to an unrestricted free agent deal or a seventh round or if you're a star, you're not getting the packaged deals. If I don't need a quarterback, and I want Dion. I'm gonna I'm gonna go higher.

I just yeah, let me tell you something. He didn't have the choice. You can do that in college football. The NFL's not holding their breath. This is not the NBA, which is a star driven league. The Lakers brawny. We all get it. Lebron has helped carry the league for fifteen years. We get that. That's not the NFL. Nobody cares now. They may sign your son to an unrestricted free agent deal or a seventh round or if you're a star, you're not getting the packaged deals. If I don't need a quarterback, and I want Dion. I'm gonna I'm gonna go higher.

Dan Browns take Shadoor Sanders second.

Dan Browns take Shadoor Sanders second.

Okay, say it again.

Okay, say it again.

The Cleveland Browns drafts shduor Sanders. Okay, Watson's done.

The Cleveland Browns drafts shduor Sanders. Okay, Watson's done.

They play Shadoor, they win four games, Cleveland say. Fans say that's it for Stefanski, multiple bad years. Enter Deon Sanders his head coaching.

They play Shadoor, they win four games, Cleveland say. Fans say that's it for Stefanski, multiple bad years. Enter Deon Sanders his head coaching.

Now.

Now.

I don't think that's crazy either, but I thought.

I don't think that's crazy either, but I thought.

He's more likely to wait to coach his son.

He's more likely to wait to coach his son.

The jump at a job that you've just explained for two days is not a good job in Dallas.

The jump at a job that you've just explained for two days is not a good job in Dallas.

The problem for him is the draft isn't until late April. So if the draft was next week, I could see Deon sayd I'm just gonna see where my son goes, and if it's a rocky, weird team, I'll just wait for grading out. The problem is what if a good team moves up and drafts him and.

The problem for him is the draft isn't until late April. So if the draft was next week, I could see Deon sayd I'm just gonna see where my son goes, and if it's a rocky, weird team, I'll just wait for grading out. The problem is what if a good team moves up and drafts him and.

You're like, okay, what about Giants. Let's say he falls to the New York That's a mess. Did Dabels on the hot seat?

You're like, okay, what about Giants. Let's say he falls to the New York That's a mess. Did Dabels on the hot seat?

Though Dabel and Shane are on notice, Dion, you don't think they would love him in New York, that personality, the lights Gotham's that's a potential.

Though Dabel and Shane are on notice, Dion, you don't think they would love him in New York, that personality, the lights Gotham's that's a potential.

Let me throw a team out there, Seattle.

Let me throw a team out there, Seattle.

You think it trade up or he falls.

You think it trade up or he falls.

I think Seattle hasn't ready to win big playoff game now roster and they're jammed up at quarterback. I think I'll give you DK Metcalf and two first to move up to Shaduur. If Chadur is better than Gino, and I think it's possible I can find a receiver. I think the Seattle Seahawks are a wild card t first, I will give you well Flip first this year, and then I'll give you two other first, and I'll give you DK Metcalf and a fourth next year.

I think Seattle hasn't ready to win big playoff game now roster and they're jammed up at quarterback. I think I'll give you DK Metcalf and two first to move up to Shaduur. If Chadur is better than Gino, and I think it's possible I can find a receiver. I think the Seattle Seahawks are a wild card t first, I will give you well Flip first this year, and then I'll give you two other first, and I'll give you DK Metcalf and a fourth next year.

I don't I mean we got Daniel Jeremiah who you know him right NFL network h He's out there saying that you know cam Ward is clearly the number one quarterback, and then there's a drop off and then it's should do well if cam Ward is more talented than shod.

I don't I mean we got Daniel Jeremiah who you know him right NFL network h He's out there saying that you know cam Ward is clearly the number one quarterback, and then there's a drop off and then it's should do well if cam Ward is more talented than shod.

May, if you were in this draft, would be better than both of these.

May, if you were in this draft, would be better than both of these.

Yes, I agree.

Yes, I agree.

I don't know that anybody's given up that much for shaduor Sanders, which could be beneficial to Dia.

I don't know that anybody's given up that much for shaduor Sanders, which could be beneficial to Dia.

Well, if you can improve at quarterback and only give up one star player in a couple first rounds, Because I do think Seattle is stuck, especially as the Rams. You watch the Rams, the way they're drafting, and how good the Rams are. Yeah, they're only getting better. In San Francisco, rock Perty will get healthy, should get better. I mean, they should be on their way to getting better. Seattle is. I'm not just because I'm from there. I'm fascinated with a roster. Every time I watch Seattle, I'm like, man, they got dudes everywhere and they're not even paying a lot of them. And Dk Metcalf always seems a little unhappy. Two first rounders Dk Metcalf, couple fourth rounders and all I do is switch positions in a week draft. Anyway, what do I care?

Well, if you can improve at quarterback and only give up one star player in a couple first rounds, Because I do think Seattle is stuck, especially as the Rams. You watch the Rams, the way they're drafting, and how good the Rams are. Yeah, they're only getting better. In San Francisco, rock Perty will get healthy, should get better. I mean, they should be on their way to getting better. Seattle is. I'm not just because I'm from there. I'm fascinated with a roster. Every time I watch Seattle, I'm like, man, they got dudes everywhere and they're not even paying a lot of them. And Dk Metcalf always seems a little unhappy. Two first rounders Dk Metcalf, couple fourth rounders and all I do is switch positions in a week draft. Anyway, what do I care?

It's not bad.

It's not bad.

What about Jayleen Molrow, He won't cost you any extra picks? Does he excite you at all? Jalen Morrow eighteen ish or whatever? Seattle is.

What about Jayleen Molrow, He won't cost you any extra picks? Does he excite you at all? Jalen Morrow eighteen ish or whatever? Seattle is.

I like Jalen Milroe more than Alabama fan. Alabama fans very critical of Jalen Milroe. He has a great family and is a great kid. What people love about Jalen Milroe. They think he's more athletic than Anthony Richardson, but a better prospect than Anthony Richardson. Have you ever seen Jalen Milroe when he wants to run and just run, gazelle, Dude, he's a running back man, like a top running back. Like he is a burner. So that my guys like Jalen Milroe and I always push back and go He's a bit mechanical for me, and they're like, listen, that was the knock on Herbert. Herbert's mechanical. You can win being mechanical.

I like Jalen Milroe more than Alabama fan. Alabama fans very critical of Jalen Milroe. He has a great family and is a great kid. What people love about Jalen Milroe. They think he's more athletic than Anthony Richardson, but a better prospect than Anthony Richardson. Have you ever seen Jalen Milroe when he wants to run and just run, gazelle, Dude, he's a running back man, like a top running back. Like he is a burner. So that my guys like Jalen Milroe and I always push back and go He's a bit mechanical for me, and they're like, listen, that was the knock on Herbert. Herbert's mechanical. You can win being mechanical.

My guess is that Milroe is going to go up during this process because, like you said, the background is incredible, great parents, great, and they will say, hey, they change systems on him.

My guess is that Milroe is going to go up during this process because, like you said, the background is incredible, great parents, great, and they will say, hey, they change systems on him.

Right.

Right.

He had some really young receivers freshman seventeen year old guys. It was a transition year. He didn't do great. Yeah, he's going to be a good by the way back.

He had some really young receivers freshman seventeen year old guys. It was a transition year. He didn't do great. Yeah, he's going to be a good by the way back.

All you Alabama fans, you just have to come to terms with the power. Move north. It's a new day. Kaylen de Bor is a great coach. He's going to be fine. People have no idea when you take over franchise or a college team even if it's a great program. We're bringing your offense, and you gotta get players that fit your offense. Like Alabama's freaking out. It's like you do understand. Nick Saban lost to Louisianam and Roe his first year. You gotta change the culture and change the personnel. J Mack with a news.

All you Alabama fans, you just have to come to terms with the power. Move north. It's a new day. Kaylen de Bor is a great coach. He's going to be fine. People have no idea when you take over franchise or a college team even if it's a great program. We're bringing your offense, and you gotta get players that fit your offense. Like Alabama's freaking out. It's like you do understand. Nick Saban lost to Louisianam and Roe his first year. You gotta change the culture and change the personnel. J Mack with a news.

Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping. That's the herd line news.

Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping. That's the herd line news.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver, who has never been on this show, but he has been our priority for several years to get on the show, so we feel pretty lucky. I had to go to bed early last night and get rest with us sing i's doing. I got up this morning at four forty five and Neue and jumping Jackson sit up some smoothies. You can't you're not bringing Adam Silver on and just mailing it in. Took a little extra time in the hair room today. Gotta look good for the commission Okay, Gotta be ready for him because I got some probing questions as America's honesty broker. Adam Silver. Top of the Hour Joel Klatt. Now you know with Clatt, I can go out and have some fun. So it's a weird day from me, A little mix of serious and fun. I love you Joel. Coming up next, we're all very negative about college football this year. I'm gonna give you four great things that happen in college football this year that are gonna keep happening and that nobody wants to acknowledge. All we're doing is it struggles, It's this this. I think there's four amazing things that happen in college football this year. I cannot wait for Notre Dame Ohio State. I like the Buckeyes by a touchdown. That and plus why Jordan Love's gonna be fine.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver, who has never been on this show, but he has been our priority for several years to get on the show, so we feel pretty lucky. I had to go to bed early last night and get rest with us sing i's doing. I got up this morning at four forty five and Neue and jumping Jackson sit up some smoothies. You can't you're not bringing Adam Silver on and just mailing it in. Took a little extra time in the hair room today. Gotta look good for the commission Okay, Gotta be ready for him because I got some probing questions as America's honesty broker. Adam Silver. Top of the Hour Joel Klatt. Now you know with Clatt, I can go out and have some fun. So it's a weird day from me, A little mix of serious and fun. I love you Joel. Coming up next, we're all very negative about college football this year. I'm gonna give you four great things that happen in college football this year that are gonna keep happening and that nobody wants to acknowledge. All we're doing is it struggles, It's this this. I think there's four amazing things that happen in college football this year. I cannot wait for Notre Dame Ohio State. I like the Buckeyes by a touchdown. That and plus why Jordan Love's gonna be fine.

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By the way, tip of the cap to the LA Times, the local LA stations, and local Los Angeles radio stations. Their coverage has been breathtaking at times. I worked in the local stuff for fourteen years. I prefer often local over all the national stuff. I think the television reporting on this fire has been unbelievable and it's a shame that only Los Angeles gets to watch it. It has been much better than the national coverage. It's been phenomenal. So tip of the cap to all the photo journalists and the reporters, and I'm seeing people in the middle of this fire reporting. It has been breath taking coverage. You all deserve credit for that. So I know if you're not in Los Angeles, Colin, what are you talking about. I had my TV on for four days. I didn't turn it off. I'll stand up till midnight getting up early coverage was stunning. So congratulations to those people who have had to deal with it, and are you know We're with you, Southern California, and if you can give to the Red Cross, please do. The coverage has been remarkable on a terribly, terribly sad story, the worst I've ever been part of in any community I've ever lived in. Adam Silver Top of the Hour. Apparently Adam was on with me seven years ago, but it was just a phone call. Now we're a much bigger deal. So he's coming on TV with us, and he was with me once on ESPN. So I I like commissioners. I get Roger Goodell. I had Barack Obama, I had Trump. I like the Big interviews had David Stern, the late commissioner was great. He was feisty. We went back and forth. I loved it. I miss him. I loved him. So Adam's silver Top of the Hour. So listen. Anytime there's change. And I've used this stat many times, only forty percent of Americans ever leave their zip code. People are uncomfortable with change. I get it. Like I have a sister lives in the same house she grew up with. I get it. Her brother likes change. My sister doesn't. I get it. She had a job. She's like, I got my friends here.

By the way, tip of the cap to the LA Times, the local LA stations, and local Los Angeles radio stations. Their coverage has been breathtaking at times. I worked in the local stuff for fourteen years. I prefer often local over all the national stuff. I think the television reporting on this fire has been unbelievable and it's a shame that only Los Angeles gets to watch it. It has been much better than the national coverage. It's been phenomenal. So tip of the cap to all the photo journalists and the reporters, and I'm seeing people in the middle of this fire reporting. It has been breath taking coverage. You all deserve credit for that. So I know if you're not in Los Angeles, Colin, what are you talking about. I had my TV on for four days. I didn't turn it off. I'll stand up till midnight getting up early coverage was stunning. So congratulations to those people who have had to deal with it, and are you know We're with you, Southern California, and if you can give to the Red Cross, please do. The coverage has been remarkable on a terribly, terribly sad story, the worst I've ever been part of in any community I've ever lived in. Adam Silver Top of the Hour. Apparently Adam was on with me seven years ago, but it was just a phone call. Now we're a much bigger deal. So he's coming on TV with us, and he was with me once on ESPN. So I I like commissioners. I get Roger Goodell. I had Barack Obama, I had Trump. I like the Big interviews had David Stern, the late commissioner was great. He was feisty. We went back and forth. I loved it. I miss him. I loved him. So Adam's silver Top of the Hour. So listen. Anytime there's change. And I've used this stat many times, only forty percent of Americans ever leave their zip code. People are uncomfortable with change. I get it. Like I have a sister lives in the same house she grew up with. I get it. Her brother likes change. My sister doesn't. I get it. She had a job. She's like, I got my friends here.

I get it.

I get it.

And college football's had a lot of change, nil Transfer Portal and a lot of people don't like it. But let me give you four things were college football thanks to the new playoff format, the NIL and the transfer portal have made college football to me much better, closer to the NFL but still not the NFL. Number one. Conference realignment and expanded playoff games have created more big games the NFL gives you six good games a weekend, maybe eight. College football has a only a. I mean they have one hundred and thirty teams. They have four and a half times as many teams as like the NFL has, and you get about three great games a weekend, maybe five. I'm getting more big games. And even if Indiana and Notre Dame disappoints me, it felt like a big game. More big games. Here's the other thing, the transfer portal. Number two. It allows dead programs Arizona State, SMU, Indiana, Colorado to get reasonably good very quickly. Now they may be unveiled a little bit as we think they're great and they go play Ohio State and Notre Dame and they're not as great as we think. But three of the four quarterbacks in the semifinals they were transfers. Is that great programs can plug holes dead programs. You don't have to wait four to five years. Colorado wasn't great the first year with Dion, but they were interesting. Number three is football players deserve to be paid college or pro. These young men play in a sport with regulated levels of violence. They deserve to get paid, and they drive a massive amount of revenue. In most athletic departments, only two or three programs make real money. Football, often men's basketball sometimes like a ucon or some women's basketball too. Only in the South does baseball make money at the college level. So these kids deserve to be paid. And yes, some of the salaries are like, you know, pretty big. So what number four? And this is a big one. The expanded playoff actually allows young people who make more mistakes than older people on average to make mistakes. Yes, Ohio State lost at home late in the year as a twenty point favorite, and Will Howard was terrible. Okay, in the old format, people get fired, Will Howard gets harassed. But it's interesting because the worst regular season losses no longer define you, and in the NFL they never have. It never made sense that in the NFL, when you're dealing with men, you were allowed to make more mistakes than a college kid was. And let me just throw one more thing out there that I like, is that. And I think this is something that hasn't proven to be true yet, but it will be. I think maybe next year is that college football is gonna get older. I wish college basketball did this. The nil Carson Beck was gonna declare for the NFL draft. He did, and then he went, I can make more money plan for Miami. I'm gonna stay in college. So college football teams players are gonna stay another year in college because they can make more money than going to a dysfunctional NFL team. I love that. I think college basketball was at its best twenty years ago, when Christian Latner would come back for another year, when Tim Duncan would come back for another year, or Patrick Ewan twenty five thirty years ago. So college football is getting older, and I think one of the problems with college basketball now is it's like a one and done culture. If you get the guy to come at all, he bails after a year, and it's a constant revolving door. Carson Beck playing for Miami. I'm kind of fascinated to see Carson Beck now. I've seen the Georgia version. What's the old Carson Beck at Miami gonna do? So? I know we're negative with a lot of stuff, but more big games, dead program can rebound more quickly. Players. Absolutely, let's be good humans here. Let's pay the kids they're putting their bodies at risk. And expanded playoffs allow for more mistakes. Here's who makes a lot of mistakes in America. Eighteen to twenty four year old men. They have all the testosterone, all the juice, all the energy, and their brains are still forming. They make mistakes, they have bad games. Ohio State had the worst loss in college football this year, and they're gonna win the National Championship, I presume on Monday. That's how the NFL works. Where the Chiefs lost to the Raiders last December and then won the Super Bowl. Drama, not these un unrealistic expectations. We're a seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year old loses a game in October and is getting death threats because the season's over. So there's a lot to like about where college football is going. And Adam Silver top of the hour, I thought we had a great year and I don't think there's any question right now now Ohio State is the best looking program in college football. We will see if they are the best team, but they should be favored over Notre Dame, and I think Notre Dame would have to have sort of like a Rams first half against the Vikings. They would have to play perfect football for at least one of the halves if they could jump on Ohio State quickly and put pressure on the buck Eyes. But the buck Eyes in recent weeks, in their last three games, they're getting it rolling real fast. And if you're trailing Ohio State with that pass rush, if you're trailing Ohio State at halftime, they're no fun to play catch up to. If you get a little lead on them and you put a little pressure on the buck Eyes, they're the nine to ten point favorite. You got a shot. But if Ohio State starts quickly, I don't want to trail the buck guys. That's not a team. You got Sawyer on one side, you got edge rushers, down lineman, aggressive defense. I don't want to play behind against Ohio State. Adam silvernext

And college football's had a lot of change, nil Transfer Portal and a lot of people don't like it. But let me give you four things were college football thanks to the new playoff format, the NIL and the transfer portal have made college football to me much better, closer to the NFL but still not the NFL. Number one. Conference realignment and expanded playoff games have created more big games the NFL gives you six good games a weekend, maybe eight. College football has a only a. I mean they have one hundred and thirty teams. They have four and a half times as many teams as like the NFL has, and you get about three great games a weekend, maybe five. I'm getting more big games. And even if Indiana and Notre Dame disappoints me, it felt like a big game. More big games. Here's the other thing, the transfer portal. Number two. It allows dead programs Arizona State, SMU, Indiana, Colorado to get reasonably good very quickly. Now they may be unveiled a little bit as we think they're great and they go play Ohio State and Notre Dame and they're not as great as we think. But three of the four quarterbacks in the semifinals they were transfers. Is that great programs can plug holes dead programs. You don't have to wait four to five years. Colorado wasn't great the first year with Dion, but they were interesting. Number three is football players deserve to be paid college or pro. These young men play in a sport with regulated levels of violence. They deserve to get paid, and they drive a massive amount of revenue. In most athletic departments, only two or three programs make real money. Football, often men's basketball sometimes like a ucon or some women's basketball too. Only in the South does baseball make money at the college level. So these kids deserve to be paid. And yes, some of the salaries are like, you know, pretty big. So what number four? And this is a big one. The expanded playoff actually allows young people who make more mistakes than older people on average to make mistakes. Yes, Ohio State lost at home late in the year as a twenty point favorite, and Will Howard was terrible. Okay, in the old format, people get fired, Will Howard gets harassed. But it's interesting because the worst regular season losses no longer define you, and in the NFL they never have. It never made sense that in the NFL, when you're dealing with men, you were allowed to make more mistakes than a college kid was. And let me just throw one more thing out there that I like, is that. And I think this is something that hasn't proven to be true yet, but it will be. I think maybe next year is that college football is gonna get older. I wish college basketball did this. The nil Carson Beck was gonna declare for the NFL draft. He did, and then he went, I can make more money plan for Miami. I'm gonna stay in college. So college football teams players are gonna stay another year in college because they can make more money than going to a dysfunctional NFL team. I love that. I think college basketball was at its best twenty years ago, when Christian Latner would come back for another year, when Tim Duncan would come back for another year, or Patrick Ewan twenty five thirty years ago. So college football is getting older, and I think one of the problems with college basketball now is it's like a one and done culture. If you get the guy to come at all, he bails after a year, and it's a constant revolving door. Carson Beck playing for Miami. I'm kind of fascinated to see Carson Beck now. I've seen the Georgia version. What's the old Carson Beck at Miami gonna do? So? I know we're negative with a lot of stuff, but more big games, dead program can rebound more quickly. Players. Absolutely, let's be good humans here. Let's pay the kids they're putting their bodies at risk. And expanded playoffs allow for more mistakes. Here's who makes a lot of mistakes in America. Eighteen to twenty four year old men. They have all the testosterone, all the juice, all the energy, and their brains are still forming. They make mistakes, they have bad games. Ohio State had the worst loss in college football this year, and they're gonna win the National Championship, I presume on Monday. That's how the NFL works. Where the Chiefs lost to the Raiders last December and then won the Super Bowl. Drama, not these un unrealistic expectations. We're a seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year old loses a game in October and is getting death threats because the season's over. So there's a lot to like about where college football is going. And Adam Silver top of the hour, I thought we had a great year and I don't think there's any question right now now Ohio State is the best looking program in college football. We will see if they are the best team, but they should be favored over Notre Dame, and I think Notre Dame would have to have sort of like a Rams first half against the Vikings. They would have to play perfect football for at least one of the halves if they could jump on Ohio State quickly and put pressure on the buck Eyes. But the buck Eyes in recent weeks, in their last three games, they're getting it rolling real fast. And if you're trailing Ohio State with that pass rush, if you're trailing Ohio State at halftime, they're no fun to play catch up to. If you get a little lead on them and you put a little pressure on the buck Eyes, they're the nine to ten point favorite. You got a shot. But if Ohio State starts quickly, I don't want to trail the buck guys. That's not a team. You got Sawyer on one side, you got edge rushers, down lineman, aggressive defense. I don't want to play behind against Ohio State. Adam silvernext