Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are jampacked today live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and FS one one hour from now. There are a lot of good teams in this league. There may not be a great team. There are a lot of very good teams. Difficult to come up with a top ten. The Herd hierarchy one hour from now. It is amazing. We're like a month through it. There are a lot of very viable teams that move the ball. I'm not sure if the Rams will be one of those going forward, but it is. Jay Mack is joining us as old as Jay Mackow are you excellent? I told you on the show yesterday. Niners in Deebo, Samuel, you're riding through and hurt hierarchy. Colin, I know Rams can't be in there right Well, there's a lot of drama. Let me start with this. There are certain things in your life and in my life, if you thought about it for a couple of minutes, that are really valuable to you, but they're not necessarily valuable to anybody else. There could be something your grandma gave you. It could be a place where you get peace and quiet. San Francisco's a unique place in America. I believe they have two assets that are much more valuable to them than to anybody else. I'm not saying they don't have a market, but Draymond Green to the Warriors and Jimmy Garoppolo to the Niners. I don't think people outside of San Francisco understand how valuable both are as catalysts. Let's talk about Garoppolo. He works for this offense. He's now seven to o against the Rams and Sean McVan the regular season. He's accurate, he follows the playbook, and he gets rid of the ball faster than all but two other quarterbacks in the league. Kyler Murray is more talented. Russell Wilson's more talented. I don't think either would fit in this offense as well as Jimmy Garoppolo got a big ego at quarterback. Nope, gotta be coachable, you gotta run the place Kyle wants. You want to do your own thing. Aaron Rodgers would Aaron B seven to o against McVeagh. I don't know Garoppolo works for this team. Fans struggle with this premise. Well, even the media does well. Talent talent. I give you the Brooklyn Nets. Milwaukee doesn't have Brooklyn's talent. You could argue the Warriors don't have their scoring talent. Boston doesn't have their talent. Chemistry, fit, coachability, and good enough talent beats raw talent. And that's what Jimmy Garoppolo does. The Niners have a bunch of great after the catch weapons, and a great example of this is the box score. If you go into the box score this morning, Rams had almost twice as many first downs. RAMS had twenty five more plays. Rams dominate time of possession, Rams really control the game. Right you look at all these stats, here's the big difference yards per play Rams three and a half, Niners almost seven. And that's not Jimmy winging it downfield. It's Jimmy getting it third fastest release in the league. Get it, read it, get it out and let the guys like Debot go. He fits. I've been arguing this forever with Draymond Green on the Orlando Magic. What does he mean? I don't know. But on the Warriors. Literally, their defensive stats last year in the regular season, when Draymond was on the floor, it was the best defense in the NBA since like two thousand and four Spurs with Tim Duncan. When he wasn't on the floor. For the Warriors, defensively, they were thirteenth in the NBA. You've got to watch Warrior games. You have to understand the culture. You have to understand he's the bouncer in the Skinny Jeans nightclub. He is so valuable to them, but he doesn't end that same value for the Wizards. They're not as well built, they don't have that. They don't understand him. It wouldn't work there. The culture is not right. That's Garoppolo. What is his market? He didn't have one. What GM's going to spend twenty five million in a guy that has, you know, tenuous physical availability. You're not worth that much. He's not going to carry a franchise. They're not looking for that. Kyle Shanahan made Matt shab a pro bowler and Matt Ryan an MVP. They followed direction and Garoppolo and the Niners fit because they're not a delicate team. They're not a pretty team. They're not a finesse team. They'll hit you in the mouth. They're a little clunk. They're not a fine work of art, and either Garoppolo. And the other thing here is you're kind of trapped with Jimmy, although I wouldn't use the word trap because I think he's better than everybody else tends to think he is. But because you gave up three first round picks for Trey Lance, you can't give up on him because he got hurt. You gotta try that exercise again. But what if it doesn't work. You gotta keep Jimmy g around because he's the only proven winner in this city with this coach over the last three years. You can't bail on him, and he doesn't have much of a market outside of it. So it's one of these relationships you can fight. Oh is Draymond Greenworth? It is Draymond Yes for their culture. He is a better fit with the Warriors than anybody else, and it's not close. And I think Garoppolo works for this team. Doesn't have a big ego, isn't going to add lib He's gonna follow the plays, he gets rid of the ball quickly, and their offense has all these guys that are great after the cash after the game. Kyle Shanahan on Jimmy gum whenever goal in sports like struggle to get out on the field. And you know, we didn't get a third down and we didn't get to third down a bunch last week. No one feels in rhythm. That's kind of the way we say it, but it really comes down to it's just a broad statement to what happened. But he threw some big throws there and it kept us going and allowed us to start with the touchdown. So, you know, I think last week that was the reason for it was third down mainly. But I thought he did a hell of a job in that early in this game and that allowed us in with some points. Let's talk about the rams. So one of the things that is really remarkable about this league and no other league is like this. We know in baseball, the Dodgers are going to be good as long as they want to be good, because they just have a bigger payroll. Same with the Yankees. Braves are well run. It's hard to go from really really good to awful. But in the NFL, in the NBA, if you got a collection of good stars, unless you have major injuries. I mean, the Warriors are mostly been really really really good, you know for the last eight nine years, except for a couple of years that Durant left Steff got hurt. But in football, half the teams that made the playoffs will not make it this year. The Super Bowl loser this year at Cincinnati generally falls off the edge. It's fascinating in the NFL, It's why it's so much fun. Look at the LA Rams. You can blame McVeigh and you can blame Matt Stafford this morning. But now the pressures on the front office. Let's sneed the GM. Couple of years ago they drafted with their number two, picked two two at well to be an over the top receiver. He's a bust. They spent a lot of money on Alan Robinson. I like to move a lot. I really liked it. Three year deal. He can't get open. Now due to a Van Jefferson injury, they are a one wide receiver receiving corps. The tight end Tyler Higbe and Cooper Cup had thirty three targets last night. So until Van Jefferson comes back, it's basically Cooper Cup a tight end. And that's it. This team was winning in Tampa, they're beaten in Niners, they're beating the Bengals, they're flying through the playoffs. Look at them now, four games in to the season after winning the Super Bowl. It all changes. Just think of these two little moves, just these two moves. Von Miller leaves and Andrew Whitworth retires. They lose their best pass rusher and their best pass protector. And statistically, this morning, this morning, the Rams have the worst sack differential in the league. Four games after winning the Super Bowl, Harassing Borough Brady Garoppolo the NFL last year, two players, one retires, one leaves for a better contract. They have the worst sack differential in the league. And because of one Van Jefferson injury and a free agent move that hasn't worked yet, they have one wide receiver, I mean, offensively, think about this in the NFC Eagle defensive fronts, Great Tampa's defensive fronts, Great Niners defensive front Great Seattle's now getting after it, Green Bay gets after it. Look at all these teams in the NFC, a lot of good pass rushes. Rams can't protect the quarterback, and Matt Stafford's not real, not a real mover. I mean, we're four weeks into the new season and you look at the Rams and you're like, team's not a super Bowl team. I'm not sure that team's a playoff team. They can't protect their quarterback, they can't get to the quarterback, and they have a one wide receiver receiving corps. So it is, this is why the league is great. There's no guarantee in college football. Didn't we all predict before the season, Bama, Ohio State, George will be the top three teams college basketball last year? Hey Shock or Kansas one. I mean, you know, in tennis, if somebody's great early, they're great for twenty years. In baseball, the Dodgers have so much money, you know they're gonna be viable. But like in the NFL, I mean, the Rams were just cutting through people and now can't pass block, can't get after their quarterback, one receiver you can count on. Wow, here's Sean McBay after the story of the night from an offensive perspective, was you know, self inflicted wounds. Um, you know, just above the neck airs where we're not doing the things that we're capable of. And I expect us to be better than that. It's just been a struggle overall. Yeah, that one is. I thought Alan Robinson and for the record, he's only twenty nine, so he played for the Jags and the Bears, and I always defend Allan Robinson saying, well, what are the quarterbacks he's played with? He'll be great with the Rams. Stafford's not looking at him, he's not separating. I think he's talented, but it doesn't look dynamic. So can they get that thing figured out? Is it solvable? Um? Van Jefferson helps down the field. Do you go after O B J? You know it? It is. They're in a tough spot. Garoppolo now regular season seven and zero against McVan. The Rams say that out loud one hour from now, little less the Herd Hierarchy. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. So, according to her report, Mike Tomlin, Steelers coach, is going to stick with Kenny Pickhead over marginal Mitch Drubisky. So there are certain streaks in sports that are pretty amazing. Joe DiMaggio hit in fifty six straight baseball games. It'll never be equal. That's like two months, got a hit in every game. I mean, now, it's so situational. The minute a starter's marginally tired, he's out, you're bringing the guy throwing ninety eight and the sixth inning, the seventh inning. Like, that's an amazing streak. Fifty six game hitting streak. Here's the kind of streaks that apparently everybody else is fascinated with, and I just they don't do much for me. Protective streaks like Cal Ripken played in like twenty seven hundred straight baseball games. In the end, he was old, didn't have any range, and there were people inside the organization that thought he was sort of impeding the growth of other young infielders for the Orioles. The second one is Mike Tomlins never had a losing season, yippie. This sports about winning super Bowls, not protecting a five hundred or better streak. They also haven't had a memorable season in twelve years. And so one of my criticisms of green Bay and the Steelers is there like conservative and protective to a fault. Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowls in the last twenty years. That's the same as well run Pittsburgh, and more than Green Bay and Tampa this year is much more poised to win it than Green Bay or Pittsburgh. Don't buy into that fool's gold. Green Bay win and Tampa when none of the Buccaneers receivers were healthy. Just let Kenny Pickett play. What if he goes three and eleven? What if he does sometimes, y'all you gotta bought him out to get to the top this Like, well, Mike Tomlins never had a losing season, all right, Great Belichick's got seven rings. They're gonna end up having a losing season. You think you think he'd trade for that, Like you gotta find out if Kenny Pickett can play. And so you can't do it in three starts, you can't do it in eight. You gotta give him fourteen fifteen starts rest of the year. Let's see what he can do. He's got thirteen starts left, he may win three. All Right, you're gonna get a great draft pick. And there's a bunch of good quarterbacks. Go get one of those. Or maybe you stay with Kenny Pickett and get a get another, you know, an offensive tackle or somebody in the old line that can protect him. But you can't be afraid to fail. I think sometimes Green Bay does that. It's like they just keep drafting corners and linebackers in the first round. Let's get Jordan Love. You know Aaron is slightly declining. How about get him a receiver in the first round. In Pittsburgh is like Big Ben move on. Big Bend hasn't beaten, didn't beat a great quarterback in the playoffs for the last like eight years of his career. And so Tomlin inherited Big Band, and he inherited dick Lebone in great defense. It's time for him to carve out like his Steelers. And to me, this is your moment. And I was thinking about it this morning. Is Steeler fans get because of their history. They get very protective and very defensive. But there's three tiers of football. As of this morning, there looked like to me. Now, things can change, but it feels like there's three tiers of football. The first tier are the teams that should be favored to win the Super Bowl. Kansas City, Buffalo, Tampa. I still like Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Philadelphia. They feel like super Bowl contenders. Then there's playoff contenders. I don't know if they have another gear. Miami, Minnesota, Dallas, you know, Rams, we'll see when they get healthy with Van Jefferson, Green Bay, Jacksonville. I think Chargers, although left tackle Rashawns later out. How long can that? You know, we'll see it looks like Denver and the Raiders in that division aren't very good. So those are your two tiers. The third tier Pittsburgh's in. You're not a super Bowl team. You're not a super Bowl team. I don't even think you're a playoff team with Kenny Picketter Mitch ter biscuit. So roll it. Let's see what you got. But it's just this Green Bay and Pittsburgh and Planet Safe. Tampa's got two super Bowls in the last twenty years and is poised and maybe favored right now along with Philadelphia to win the NFC Pittsburgh's not close to it in the AFC, and Green Bay didn't have a number one wide receiver. They're not winning a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers said this week. The way we're winning is not even sustainable. J Mack with the News No No, I hit something similar on my podcast. I did have the Green Bay Packers in the top tier. No Bengals. You're bullish on Cincinnati. Huh, well again, weapons, lots of them, running backs, receivers, multiple like they are when I watched the Rams last night. The offensive lines obviously an issue, so they don't have much of a pass rage. It feels like, and they can't protect the quarterback. But if you start looking around, I don't think Sean McVay likes cam Akers, he'd never say it publicly. Fumbles and can't pass protect. That's why they drafted another running back, a bigger, stockier guy. You can tell they're not designing plays for Alan Robinson. They're not bringing OBJ back apparently. I mean, they basically are a tight end Cooper cup offense that I think he really likes those two players and Van Jefferson, but he's a three. So it's like you start looking around Cincinnati is they got three guys I trust going down the field and a quarterback I love, and the on line over four weeks has gotten slightly better every week. I don't know. When the Rams fall behind, it feels like they have no comeback ability this year. They got blown out by the Bills and then blown out again last night. Anyways, let's get to the news. First up, Cowboys do not expect Dak Prescott to play this weekend. Colin Jerry Jones, of course, because the owner comes out and talks on the radio giving injury updates, said this morning that Dak Prescott cannot grip the ball well enough to play this weekend. So Hooper Rush will be starting against the Rams. Now we talked about this, we were like, oh, it's gonna be reality for Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know. Watching the Rams last night, it's like, WHOA, what's the line on that four and a half by the Rams? Now it was seven on the look ahead. They put out lines last week. So it's come down is that an over adjustment or people will overreact to what they saw at home. But it is a short week. Also, McVeagh, awful loss. They'll be I just looked that up last segment. McVay three and one against Dallas. Since he took over his head coach, he's kind of shredding the Andy Reids, the Belichicks, the Kyle Shanahans, the mcvay's, they tend to be very good awful loss. Yeah, here's Jerry Jones and Mikey Mike McCarthy actually talking about dek Prescott. Give him his due. He has managed to write the ship steady it and then progressively get this team in shape to play without Dad, and that's a team wide thing. I think it would be an injustice not to give him the kind of credit and his head coach for getting this thing right and getting it to this point. And what's happening over the last three weeks is with the makeup of our team, and I think our personnel and I think our potential with the makeup of this team, these three games got us back in the hunt. Gotta love the owner giving you a big pat on the back there. Public. You have listen, there is an advantage to playing in a perceived weaker division that you can get right very quickly. This is what Green Bays had the advantage in Dallas. Over the last few years, when you got a Giant's rolling in or a Washington rolled in, they get a little bit of a break. Now the Rams are kind of reeling because they are struggling to protect Stafford and the Cowboys pass rush is the strength of that organization right now. So it's a pretty tasty matchup for Dallas. I actually think Dallas after watching last night, they had another injury on the offensive line last night. Yeah, so they're they're in a spot where if they're not healthy against Dallas on the old line, Dallas, there's gonna be a low scoring under game. We talk about the trenches. I just looked it up. The Rams are dead last in the NFL and pressure rate nine percent getting to the quarterback. So if they can't get to the quarterback, they can't protect the quarterback, you lose. You're in trouble. This is a tough spot for the Rams. Um Next up Baker Mayfield, boy, I feel like his days are numbered on the show, Colin. He hasn't had a great start obviously in Carolina. They're one in three, last in the league in yards per game, last in a whole hell of a lot of another stats. But it doesn't sound like there's a quarterback change coming, Matt Rules said. Sam Darnold is not ready to return from the high ankle sprain, and Baker is the starting quarterback. The backup is PJ. Walker, who ironically did play last year against Arizona and beat them thirty four to ten. I don't know. You think Baker Mayfield long for the starting job in Carolina. No. I think he had his shot in the league with a really great old line running game, and he didn't take advantage of it. It's why you can't be Johnny Manzell or Baker. You gotta be mature, you gotta be buttoned up. Jamis Winston blew his opportunity with all those great receivers in Tampa. Now he's got a defensive coach in New Orleans. I mean Jamis Winston had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O J. Howard, offensive coach Bruce Arians could never grow up. Yeah, you just don't have time, folks. You've got to be a grown up as a quarterback in the league. The first team you go to, that's the one where they're not paying you. That's the team that can give you a good old line, good run game and weapons. But the time you sign your second deal, then you have an offensive line that looks like Carolina because you got to spend the money. Now, I mean, that's the reality of it is that That's why I was banging on this. You better be ready in a grown up to play, yeah, because that first roster will be your most talented. So what's logically next? We agree Baker's not built to hold that he's a backup? Well, is he gonna be? Is he more likely to go right to the booth? Does he try to call games? If I owned a network, I'd put Baker on as a college football announcer tomorrow. Absolutely, at tomorrow. I think he'd be great. He'd be Now, he's not clatter herb Street, but I would put him on a college game. He's got huge credibility Collegiately, he's totally outspoken quarterback. He's like you know, in baseball, a lot of catchers become broadcasters. In the NFL, a lot of quarterbacks become broadcaster. I think Baker Mayfield tomorrow as a college football analyst. I think he'd be in a number two booth within two years. Where does his pride say, I'm gonna stay ready. I'm gonna stay healthy and work out and be ready for the call when someone goes down. And he loves Oklahoma football. He has unbelievable passion for it. There's nothing wrong with that. I think he didn't need the money. Yeah, he's set. Given that he has, he could be a huge star as a broadcaster, and he made a lot of commercial money as well. All right. Moving from one struggling offense to another, the Chicago Bears, boy, it's been a rough month. The passing game has been particularly bad. Justin Fields ranked last amongst in completions yards. It's like he's playing in the nineteen fifties. Colin, it's really ugly the whole offense. But Justin Fields pushed back when asked what's been wrong with this part of the offense so far? You said last week you kind of threw out this excuse of it's early. Now you guys are four games in. You know, as you've had a lot of time with this offense. The running game is working. Why isn't the passing game more? Who said the passing game? The numbers aren't good. Numbers don't matter. I don't think in my opinion, Um, but you know, as long as we win, Like I said, that's that's all I care about. Well, the passing games, novels don't matter. Well, the winds matter more. But you know, I mean, we have to be honest about stuff. He didn't have a ton to work with. Um So listen, Matt Eberflus looks highly. Do they have a Sean McDermott in Chicago where they it's the wrong side of the ball, But they have a very good defensive coach. I think he's a really, really good coach. I just yeah, I have to be patient because offensively, I don't think Tom Brady could win with this team. I don't think they have who's their number two? Received to say, Brady elevated guys who were like six rounders, lacrosse players, anybody Brady would elevate. But it took Brady four years to elevate Edelman. Tom didn't elevate people initially. He had Branch You, I mean, who is that guy? But again it took him time. Justin fields, By the end of this year, there'll be people in our organization remember this GM and this coach that didn't draft. Just by the way, I think this GM drafted Trubisky and justin Fields, No, I think are you sure it might have been? I think it was paced GM was Trubisky. So this GM and this coach didn't draft Fields. They're not loyal to him at all. Yeah, this is the second year. If it doesn't work, remember you're in a division with Aaron Rodgers and the highly capable Jared Goffin Cousins. You can't have the fourth best quarterback in the division. You can. So um, you can say what about Garoppolo? Well, right now, Garoppolo is playing better than Kyler Murray and he is better than Gino Smith. Despite what face the Vikings, I believe this weekend they are not beat the Vikings. Like his defense is bad. No chance, Andy Dalton moved the ball up and down the field. The Fields can't. Colin you bet you bet against the Vikings last week I did. That was foolish of me. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stoping the herd line news. So um, here's a truism. However, it lands. It lands. UFC is a tough guy sport, basketball is a tall man sport, and football is a big man sport. Dere exceptions obviously, but um TWA is a small football player. People that have been around him say he's not six one. He's five eleven and a half and about two hundred and five pounds. Um people get uncomfortable because of everybody obviously cares good kid about his mental health and the concussions. And there's a story today he's out for week five. Many people believe, and I'm one of them. I'd sit in for two or three weeks. I just think it's just the smart side to be on. Shouldn't play this week, shouldn't play the following week. But here is a truth, and it makes people a little angry. Last four years college and Pro two, it has missed multiple starts in the last four years. Aaron Rodgers hasn't, Josh Allen hasn't. Tom Brady hasn't missed a start due to injury since two thousand and eight. Justin Herbert hasn't. Aaron Rodgers hasn't missed a start in six years. And let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. When you watch Aaron Rodgers, you don't think big, big guy, right. So I am six two a buck eighty nine. I weighed myself this morning for this segment. I'm a Buck eighty nine. Work out every day. I'm not I'm not big obviously, but compared to people on my staff, I'm much taller. I'm bigger than most people around the country. So Buck ninety, I'm six two. Aaron Rodgers is six two and waste thirty six pounds more than me. Aaron Rodgers walks into a room. Dude's a big dude. I've stood next to Aaron Rodgers. Big dude. He's ripped, he has butt, hips, shoulders, chest. Aaron Rodgers a big dude, six two two twenty five, Okay, And I when I walk around this company, I'm much bigger than my bosses. I'm much bigger than my producers. Okay, So Aaron doesn't look big. Aaron Rodgers doesn't look big. Six two two twenty five and pretty yoked two is a small guy. And so you start looking at this situation in Miami. They got the left tackle right, they got the coach right, they got the weapons right, they got the corners right. Maybe they don't have the great pass rusher yet, but I mean Lamar Jackson's a prime example. Lamar Jackson came into this league skinny he's six two and a half, two thirty. That is a that's that's Aaron Rodgers. That's a big dude. He's yoke you see Jalen Hurts. He's gotten yoked. And so when I look at the two A situation, you know, some things go without saying. Obviously everybody's concerned. I would keep him out for several weeks. There are people out there CTE specialists that say he should be out for the year. What do I know. I'm not a new rologist. I don't do brain scans. Maybe he should, but there also is a reality that grown ups, adults are having in the room and not saying things publicly, like we know this right when coaches go to the podium, when gms go to the podium, they're not telling you the truth. They're telling you what the media can handle. They don't want to start fires, right, So Sean McVay, you ask him a question, he gives you a safe answer that won't turn into a headline in the LA Times. The conversations now in Miami, obviously everybody cares about to his health. But it is interesting because if Miami finally looks like left tackle head coach Corners weapons. It's like they checked all the boxes. I don't remember the last fifteen years. When I looked at Miami, I went, they got everything. So now it's going to be very interesting. He's out against the Jets. He should be out against the Jets. You know, I saw a story this morning. Next year in the NFL draft, nobody wants to talk about size anymore. In the NFL for quarterbacks, Russell Wilson has made us believe, oh, small court size doesn't matter. It does too, admitted a month ago. I can't see over the line. Kyler Murray now is tired of getting hit, won't run. Bryce Young is the number one quarterback prospect at Alabama. He's six feet tall, one hundred and ninety three and a half pounds. That's smaller than twa So all this stuff is very interesting. What do you do if you're in Miami. I don't think it's easy. I think you're sitting there thinking to yourself. We care about the kid, We love the kid. The kid's good. We've got concerns on concussions. The media is barking. You just fire doctors. I think stuff is harder than people think. I think the NFL there's a lot of stories. It's very tough. You can go from rams to out of the playoffs in six months, and I think the Miami situation, I think now you have to protect the kid, you have to protect him from himself. You can't let him play. I'd keep him out for two to three weeks minimum, summer saying the year. They could be right, I could be wrong. Mike McDaniel yesterday. You know you're you're seeing now. Everybody goes to the podium now and everybody's on eggshells. Here's Mike McDaniels. Yeah, this is something that it's too early to give it definite timeline. I can comfortably say that he will be out for this game against the Jets, but anything beyond that, again, we're just focused on making sure he's optimal health and then crossing that bridge. So it's a little early for definitive timelines beyond that. Listen, everybody on the internet is absolutely sure they have all the answers. They're always right. This stuff's hard. I don't know what you do with Tua. I just know if I was a coach, I wouldn't want him out there. Not this week, probably not the following week. You know, I know everybody on the internet's got easy answers on this stuff. But we are now, you know, we're in this thing now where like size doesn't matter at quarterback, of course it does. The average great quarterback in NFL history sixty three and two hundred and thirty pounds. Aaron Rodgers is a yoke compared to the average American. He's like slightly smaller than you'd want as a quarterback. He's a little shorter than you want. So I don't know what you do with too. I think it's a Kyler Murray now in Arizona. There's concerns. You know, he doesn't want to get hit anymore. He stopped running because he's been hit, you know. Michael Vick said twenty nine. Was at twenty nine years old yesterday after a couple of hits. Michael, if you stand next to him, it's not real big, you know, Michael, at the end, was like twenty nine years old. I was done getting hit. I was done. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Nun Easter nine a Empacific. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong podcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society and pop culture meet the truth, absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays. Facts only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door, because nobodys is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights Are Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio, Apple Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Think about your happy place, sofa on a game day, fishing boat wherever it is, driveway dot com lets or buy or sell a car from there. Mark Sanchez in London, stand in London. Ten year career Fox Sports. But first of all, I watched the game this weekend. My takeaway is if you compared it to five to six years ago, it looks like London and Europe is way more into the NFL. That was my interpret. That stadium was packed, your thoughts, they were rocking and it's so funny. Well, I think that all does a good job, you know with the publicity for the PR team, you know, coming out here and you should have seen all the stadium graphics and they hadn't dialed in. You can tell this is a first class operation. But the fans, you nailed it. They're they're really starting to embrace this sport that we love across the pond, you know, and so they see you get every all thirty two teams are represented a million different eras and generations of football. Because you get somebody, you know, wearing like old school Joe Montana jerseys and Dan Marino jerseys, and then you get people that are you know, Vikings justin Jefferson, that are from you know, right around Tottenham Stadium, you know, not from Minnesota. And it was interesting too to hear. Usually, like the kicks in most you know, NFL games back home, they're you know, they're kind of silent. It's a quiet play. You get a chance to say what you want to say. But punts, kickoffs, you know, field goals, all that, everybody's like, oh right, no, I mean, listen, they like our football, We increasingly like their football. I love. I kind of like the symmetry of it. So, first of all, you're a former Jet. I thought Zach Wilson had a great fourth quarter for the Jets. I thought it was big for Salo. I thought there's a lot of buying when I watched that, and I came out of that weekend, and I'm like, listen, it may not feel big to anybody else, but in New York beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin that felt pretty big to me. Mark, No, that was a big deal. I just don't want him to get you know, don't start drinking the kool aid. Now that's you two Collin. So my man j Mack, I know he knows the Jets, but I want to take you to this play right before halftime. And this is a theme I see with Zach and something he's got to clean up, just absolutely has to eliminate from his game. But you got thirty three seconds left, it's third and eleven. You have two time ounce right here, and he throws that ball into a defensive team meeting. Are you kidding me? Like, absolutely not. And listen, I've done the same thing in my first two years. I know exactly. This is probably why I can't coach, because I would absolutely lose my mind and go choke the quarterback on the field. Like you, here's the problem. One, you have so much time. The time is more important, the timeouts are more important. The situation. Trump's this entire read. I don't care if we get the first down, you can scramble, you can do whatever. You're already in field goal range. Get a couple more yards, make it an easier chip shop field goal. But the fact that we're gonna put this anywhere near a defender, absolutely not. And on the coaching staff most importantly, if you know he plays like this and he's not ready to handle this situation, protect him from himself. Call a timeout, burn one of the timeouts. You have two, right so before halftime in these situations you get two timeouts, once for the kicking team, once for the offense. You got to burn one on offense because something goes wrong or because somebody stayed in bounds and you got to stop the clock. Burn it will you have an extra one, so earn it. Pull him to the sideline, grab him by the face mask. Hey, one thing we cannot do here. We cannot lose yards and we cannot throw an interception. We cannot give the ball away. That's it. Bottom line on this play. I don't care if we get eleven yards or not. Matters, absolutely none. So those kind of things, but it's the same decision, like preseason, making the move and getting hurt on the run, like, dude, just get down. You don't have to prove anything to anybody. It's preseason. I need you to play for the whole season. So little things like that, because let's just say Kenny Pickett goes in and throws one less interception, throws a touchdown, boom, you get beat by three points and you had a free three points before halftime. J Mack, you know how that media would have eaten him a lot. It would have been an absolute hornet's nest, all right, and it would have been you know, yeah, you have giants, so you had Viking Saints just stay in London. You have giants Packers, so you're starting to look at Packers stuff. Now I've said this before. They've gotten some breaks. They play a young justin fields. Tampa didn't have any of their receivers this week. New England's down to Bailey Zappi and took them to overtime. Sometimes in this league you get injury breaks. I look at Green Bay and I find them to be a very one dimensional team that they're not going to play from behind. They I don't think Aaron yet trust the receivers. I get it, they're kids. But when you look at Green Bay. They're starting to look a little like Tennessee to me, like they can win and win a lot, but boy, I don't feel like they're built for shootouts at all. Your thoughts looking at them, well, I think, you know, Aaron even admitted it that that's not a sustainable way to win games over the long haul. But the bottom line is they won the game, and they're they're talking about this from a winning perspective, right, because if you look you lose a couple of these games, then maybe these guys don't develop as quickly as you'd like, and they lose a little confidence. Not the quarterback, but the young receiving corps. And we've seen this with Tom Brady, with Peyton Manning, with all the great ones. They last so long in this league that eventually there's gonna be turnover in the wide receiver room, in the skill positions around him, and the supporting cast. So then it becomes a time on task deal and understanding these situations. And I guarantee Rogers has those guys in the film room trying to figure it out. But I liken it a lot to you know, Michael Jordan's like second three p Kobe's second version of Title Runs without shack, right, those guys like Aaron Rodgers screaming at the rap. Romo made a joke about it on the broadcast, but I mean he's screaming his head off at his second year center. Hey dude, snap me the FFing ball right right. Well, people are like, oh my god, I can't believe he talks to people like that. So my only thing is he's gonna bring these guys along. But just like Kobe, just like Jordan, those guys aren't there to be your best friend. Right They're in the twilight of their career. They can still ball better than any of them to ever walk this earth, and they're trying to win again, you know, because now it becomes like this addiction, like I need this action, I need this win, and I need these title runs, and so I'm not here to make you feel good. We're here to win these ballgames. So it's never personal. But he can He's gonna be all of these guys sometimes, and that's that's just the way it works. I mean, bottom line is show business, not show friends kind of thing. And you know he's gonna grind it out, but they gotta keep that run game going, and then the faster they can mesh quarterback, receiver, all that kind of stuff, that extra meetings, taking these guys through film, going through these situations, not just the ones they go through, but seeing other teams and having that situations real from around the league, Like, hey, look at the you know m Jets play before halftime. Look at these guys in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter, two minute row. Where did they screw up? Here's where you have to get out of bounds. Here's where you can stay in bounds. Here we don't have time out. Whatever. He's got to get those guys seeing the same way he does so he can really are attacking. We only have thirty seconds left. I don't know. You're in London. If you saw usc win, um, are you shocked? They're five and oh dead series? Are you surprised? Slightly? I'd say just a little bit. I thought they might have had like one maybe mishap or something. Or My only fear was like Oregon State sneaks up on him after they're riding high, you know, riding that wave of emotion and then you go on the road to Corvallis, and I mean that's a that's a tough, tough place to play. So I'm I'm glad they overcame those things and now it's gonna be There's some big ones coming up on the schedule. We talked about, you know, UCLA, Notre Dame, uh Utah, those are those are some big ones. So we'll see how they how they play when the lights get real bright. Yeah, he's not you know, Brock walked in five and oh, Oklahoma is not doing well without and that's a pretty good sign. They got a pretty nah not good Yep, that's the breaks Oklahoma. He came out to la it's a nice place to live, all right, Marky, Mark, you're in London. He is doing the Giant Packers, which I think is going to be a really competitive game. Fox Sports, you look great as Zoa's thanks man, appreciate you guys. Take sure you bet. No, it's I mean, I say this all the time. It's not just what Jim Harbad did when he went to Michigan won ten games year, won what happened to the Niners. It's not just what you do. Lincoln leaves Oklahoma, it's a wreck. It's not just what he does. The wake you leave says a lot about you, not just the rebuild you're involved in. Our two heard Hierarchy live in La Next

Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are jampacked today live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and FS one one hour from now. There are a lot of good teams in this league. There may not be a great team. There are a lot of very good teams. Difficult to come up with a top ten. The Herd hierarchy one hour from now. It is amazing. We're like a month through it. There are a lot of very viable teams that move the ball. I'm not sure if the Rams will be one of those going forward, but it is. Jay Mack is joining us as old as Jay Mackow are you excellent? I told you on the show yesterday. Niners in Deebo, Samuel, you're riding through and hurt hierarchy. Colin, I know Rams can't be in there right Well, there's a lot of drama. Let me start with this. There are certain things in your life and in my life, if you thought about it for a couple of minutes, that are really valuable to you, but they're not necessarily valuable to anybody else. There could be something your grandma gave you. It could be a place where you get peace and quiet. San Francisco's a unique place in America. I believe they have two assets that are much more valuable to them than to anybody else. I'm not saying they don't have a market, but Draymond Green to the Warriors and Jimmy Garoppolo to the Niners. I don't think people outside of San Francisco understand how valuable both are as catalysts. Let's talk about Garoppolo. He works for this offense. He's now seven to o against the Rams and Sean McVan the regular season. He's accurate, he follows the playbook, and he gets rid of the ball faster than all but two other quarterbacks in the league. Kyler Murray is more talented. Russell Wilson's more talented. I don't think either would fit in this offense as well as Jimmy Garoppolo got a big ego at quarterback. Nope, gotta be coachable, you gotta run the place Kyle wants. You want to do your own thing. Aaron Rodgers would Aaron B seven to o against McVeagh. I don't know Garoppolo works for this team. Fans struggle with this premise. Well, even the media does well. Talent talent. I give you the Brooklyn Nets. Milwaukee doesn't have Brooklyn's talent. You could argue the Warriors don't have their scoring talent. Boston doesn't have their talent. Chemistry, fit, coachability, and good enough talent beats raw talent. And that's what Jimmy Garoppolo does. The Niners have a bunch of great after the catch weapons, and a great example of this is the box score. If you go into the box score this morning, Rams had almost twice as many first downs. RAMS had twenty five more plays. Rams dominate time of possession, Rams really control the game. Right you look at all these stats, here's the big difference yards per play Rams three and a half, Niners almost seven. And that's not Jimmy winging it downfield. It's Jimmy getting it third fastest release in the league. Get it, read it, get it out and let the guys like Debot go. He fits. I've been arguing this forever with Draymond Green on the Orlando Magic. What does he mean? I don't know. But on the Warriors. Literally, their defensive stats last year in the regular season, when Draymond was on the floor, it was the best defense in the NBA since like two thousand and four Spurs with Tim Duncan. When he wasn't on the floor. For the Warriors, defensively, they were thirteenth in the NBA. You've got to watch Warrior games. You have to understand the culture. You have to understand he's the bouncer in the Skinny Jeans nightclub. He is so valuable to them, but he doesn't end that same value for the Wizards. They're not as well built, they don't have that. They don't understand him. It wouldn't work there. The culture is not right. That's Garoppolo. What is his market? He didn't have one. What GM's going to spend twenty five million in a guy that has, you know, tenuous physical availability. You're not worth that much. He's not going to carry a franchise. They're not looking for that. Kyle Shanahan made Matt shab a pro bowler and Matt Ryan an MVP. They followed direction and Garoppolo and the Niners fit because they're not a delicate team. They're not a pretty team. They're not a finesse team. They'll hit you in the mouth. They're a little clunk. They're not a fine work of art, and either Garoppolo. And the other thing here is you're kind of trapped with Jimmy, although I wouldn't use the word trap because I think he's better than everybody else tends to think he is. But because you gave up three first round picks for Trey Lance, you can't give up on him because he got hurt. You gotta try that exercise again. But what if it doesn't work. You gotta keep Jimmy g around because he's the only proven winner in this city with this coach over the last three years. You can't bail on him, and he doesn't have much of a market outside of it. So it's one of these relationships you can fight. Oh is Draymond Greenworth? It is Draymond Yes for their culture. He is a better fit with the Warriors than anybody else, and it's not close. And I think Garoppolo works for this team. Doesn't have a big ego, isn't going to add lib He's gonna follow the plays, he gets rid of the ball quickly, and their offense has all these guys that are great after the cash after the game. Kyle Shanahan on Jimmy gum whenever goal in sports like struggle to get out on the field. And you know, we didn't get a third down and we didn't get to third down a bunch last week. No one feels in rhythm. That's kind of the way we say it, but it really comes down to it's just a broad statement to what happened. But he threw some big throws there and it kept us going and allowed us to start with the touchdown. So, you know, I think last week that was the reason for it was third down mainly. But I thought he did a hell of a job in that early in this game and that allowed us in with some points. Let's talk about the rams. So one of the things that is really remarkable about this league and no other league is like this. We know in baseball, the Dodgers are going to be good as long as they want to be good, because they just have a bigger payroll. Same with the Yankees. Braves are well run. It's hard to go from really really good to awful. But in the NFL, in the NBA, if you got a collection of good stars, unless you have major injuries. I mean, the Warriors are mostly been really really really good, you know for the last eight nine years, except for a couple of years that Durant left Steff got hurt. But in football, half the teams that made the playoffs will not make it this year. The Super Bowl loser this year at Cincinnati generally falls off the edge. It's fascinating in the NFL, It's why it's so much fun. Look at the LA Rams. You can blame McVeigh and you can blame Matt Stafford this morning. But now the pressures on the front office. Let's sneed the GM. Couple of years ago they drafted with their number two, picked two two at well to be an over the top receiver. He's a bust. They spent a lot of money on Alan Robinson. I like to move a lot. I really liked it. Three year deal. He can't get open. Now due to a Van Jefferson injury, they are a one wide receiver receiving corps. The tight end Tyler Higbe and Cooper Cup had thirty three targets last night. So until Van Jefferson comes back, it's basically Cooper Cup a tight end. And that's it. This team was winning in Tampa, they're beaten in Niners, they're beating the Bengals, they're flying through the playoffs. Look at them now, four games in to the season after winning the Super Bowl. It all changes. Just think of these two little moves, just these two moves. Von Miller leaves and Andrew Whitworth retires. They lose their best pass rusher and their best pass protector. And statistically, this morning, this morning, the Rams have the worst sack differential in the league. Four games after winning the Super Bowl, Harassing Borough Brady Garoppolo the NFL last year, two players, one retires, one leaves for a better contract. They have the worst sack differential in the league. And because of one Van Jefferson injury and a free agent move that hasn't worked yet, they have one wide receiver, I mean, offensively, think about this in the NFC Eagle defensive fronts, Great Tampa's defensive fronts, Great Niners defensive front Great Seattle's now getting after it, Green Bay gets after it. Look at all these teams in the NFC, a lot of good pass rushes. Rams can't protect the quarterback, and Matt Stafford's not real, not a real mover. I mean, we're four weeks into the new season and you look at the Rams and you're like, team's not a super Bowl team. I'm not sure that team's a playoff team. They can't protect their quarterback, they can't get to the quarterback, and they have a one wide receiver receiving corps. So it is, this is why the league is great. There's no guarantee in college football. Didn't we all predict before the season, Bama, Ohio State, George will be the top three teams college basketball last year? Hey Shock or Kansas one. I mean, you know, in tennis, if somebody's great early, they're great for twenty years. In baseball, the Dodgers have so much money, you know they're gonna be viable. But like in the NFL, I mean, the Rams were just cutting through people and now can't pass block, can't get after their quarterback, one receiver you can count on. Wow, here's Sean McBay after the story of the night from an offensive perspective, was you know, self inflicted wounds. Um, you know, just above the neck airs where we're not doing the things that we're capable of. And I expect us to be better than that. It's just been a struggle overall. Yeah, that one is. I thought Alan Robinson and for the record, he's only twenty nine, so he played for the Jags and the Bears, and I always defend Allan Robinson saying, well, what are the quarterbacks he's played with? He'll be great with the Rams. Stafford's not looking at him, he's not separating. I think he's talented, but it doesn't look dynamic. So can they get that thing figured out? Is it solvable? Um? Van Jefferson helps down the field. Do you go after O B J? You know it? It is. They're in a tough spot. Garoppolo now regular season seven and zero against McVan. The Rams say that out loud one hour from now, little less the Herd Hierarchy. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. So, according to her report, Mike Tomlin, Steelers coach, is going to stick with Kenny Pickhead over marginal Mitch Drubisky. So there are certain streaks in sports that are pretty amazing. Joe DiMaggio hit in fifty six straight baseball games. It'll never be equal. That's like two months, got a hit in every game. I mean, now, it's so situational. The minute a starter's marginally tired, he's out, you're bringing the guy throwing ninety eight and the sixth inning, the seventh inning. Like, that's an amazing streak. Fifty six game hitting streak. Here's the kind of streaks that apparently everybody else is fascinated with, and I just they don't do much for me. Protective streaks like Cal Ripken played in like twenty seven hundred straight baseball games. In the end, he was old, didn't have any range, and there were people inside the organization that thought he was sort of impeding the growth of other young infielders for the Orioles. The second one is Mike Tomlins never had a losing season, yippie. This sports about winning super Bowls, not protecting a five hundred or better streak. They also haven't had a memorable season in twelve years. And so one of my criticisms of green Bay and the Steelers is there like conservative and protective to a fault. Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowls in the last twenty years. That's the same as well run Pittsburgh, and more than Green Bay and Tampa this year is much more poised to win it than Green Bay or Pittsburgh. Don't buy into that fool's gold. Green Bay win and Tampa when none of the Buccaneers receivers were healthy. Just let Kenny Pickett play. What if he goes three and eleven? What if he does sometimes, y'all you gotta bought him out to get to the top this Like, well, Mike Tomlins never had a losing season, all right, Great Belichick's got seven rings. They're gonna end up having a losing season. You think you think he'd trade for that, Like you gotta find out if Kenny Pickett can play. And so you can't do it in three starts, you can't do it in eight. You gotta give him fourteen fifteen starts rest of the year. Let's see what he can do. He's got thirteen starts left, he may win three. All Right, you're gonna get a great draft pick. And there's a bunch of good quarterbacks. Go get one of those. Or maybe you stay with Kenny Pickett and get a get another, you know, an offensive tackle or somebody in the old line that can protect him. But you can't be afraid to fail. I think sometimes Green Bay does that. It's like they just keep drafting corners and linebackers in the first round. Let's get Jordan Love. You know Aaron is slightly declining. How about get him a receiver in the first round. In Pittsburgh is like Big Ben move on. Big Bend hasn't beaten, didn't beat a great quarterback in the playoffs for the last like eight years of his career. And so Tomlin inherited Big Band, and he inherited dick Lebone in great defense. It's time for him to carve out like his Steelers. And to me, this is your moment. And I was thinking about it this morning. Is Steeler fans get because of their history. They get very protective and very defensive. But there's three tiers of football. As of this morning, there looked like to me. Now, things can change, but it feels like there's three tiers of football. The first tier are the teams that should be favored to win the Super Bowl. Kansas City, Buffalo, Tampa. I still like Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Philadelphia. They feel like super Bowl contenders. Then there's playoff contenders. I don't know if they have another gear. Miami, Minnesota, Dallas, you know, Rams, we'll see when they get healthy with Van Jefferson, Green Bay, Jacksonville. I think Chargers, although left tackle Rashawns later out. How long can that? You know, we'll see it looks like Denver and the Raiders in that division aren't very good. So those are your two tiers. The third tier Pittsburgh's in. You're not a super Bowl team. You're not a super Bowl team. I don't even think you're a playoff team with Kenny Picketter Mitch ter biscuit. So roll it. Let's see what you got. But it's just this Green Bay and Pittsburgh and Planet Safe. Tampa's got two super Bowls in the last twenty years and is poised and maybe favored right now along with Philadelphia to win the NFC Pittsburgh's not close to it in the AFC, and Green Bay didn't have a number one wide receiver. They're not winning a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers said this week. The way we're winning is not even sustainable. J Mack with the News No No, I hit something similar on my podcast. I did have the Green Bay Packers in the top tier. No Bengals. You're bullish on Cincinnati. Huh, well again, weapons, lots of them, running backs, receivers, multiple like they are when I watched the Rams last night. The offensive lines obviously an issue, so they don't have much of a pass rage. It feels like, and they can't protect the quarterback. But if you start looking around, I don't think Sean McVay likes cam Akers, he'd never say it publicly. Fumbles and can't pass protect. That's why they drafted another running back, a bigger, stockier guy. You can tell they're not designing plays for Alan Robinson. They're not bringing OBJ back apparently. I mean, they basically are a tight end Cooper cup offense that I think he really likes those two players and Van Jefferson, but he's a three. So it's like you start looking around Cincinnati is they got three guys I trust going down the field and a quarterback I love, and the on line over four weeks has gotten slightly better every week. I don't know. When the Rams fall behind, it feels like they have no comeback ability this year. They got blown out by the Bills and then blown out again last night. Anyways, let's get to the news. First up, Cowboys do not expect Dak Prescott to play this weekend. Colin Jerry Jones, of course, because the owner comes out and talks on the radio giving injury updates, said this morning that Dak Prescott cannot grip the ball well enough to play this weekend. So Hooper Rush will be starting against the Rams. Now we talked about this, we were like, oh, it's gonna be reality for Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know. Watching the Rams last night, it's like, WHOA, what's the line on that four and a half by the Rams? Now it was seven on the look ahead. They put out lines last week. So it's come down is that an over adjustment or people will overreact to what they saw at home. But it is a short week. Also, McVeagh, awful loss. They'll be I just looked that up last segment. McVay three and one against Dallas. Since he took over his head coach, he's kind of shredding the Andy Reids, the Belichicks, the Kyle Shanahans, the mcvay's, they tend to be very good awful loss. Yeah, here's Jerry Jones and Mikey Mike McCarthy actually talking about dek Prescott. Give him his due. He has managed to write the ship steady it and then progressively get this team in shape to play without Dad, and that's a team wide thing. I think it would be an injustice not to give him the kind of credit and his head coach for getting this thing right and getting it to this point. And what's happening over the last three weeks is with the makeup of our team, and I think our personnel and I think our potential with the makeup of this team, these three games got us back in the hunt. Gotta love the owner giving you a big pat on the back there. Public. You have listen, there is an advantage to playing in a perceived weaker division that you can get right very quickly. This is what Green Bays had the advantage in Dallas. Over the last few years, when you got a Giant's rolling in or a Washington rolled in, they get a little bit of a break. Now the Rams are kind of reeling because they are struggling to protect Stafford and the Cowboys pass rush is the strength of that organization right now. So it's a pretty tasty matchup for Dallas. I actually think Dallas after watching last night, they had another injury on the offensive line last night. Yeah, so they're they're in a spot where if they're not healthy against Dallas on the old line, Dallas, there's gonna be a low scoring under game. We talk about the trenches. I just looked it up. The Rams are dead last in the NFL and pressure rate nine percent getting to the quarterback. So if they can't get to the quarterback, they can't protect the quarterback, you lose. You're in trouble. This is a tough spot for the Rams. Um Next up Baker Mayfield, boy, I feel like his days are numbered on the show, Colin. He hasn't had a great start obviously in Carolina. They're one in three, last in the league in yards per game, last in a whole hell of a lot of another stats. But it doesn't sound like there's a quarterback change coming, Matt Rules said. Sam Darnold is not ready to return from the high ankle sprain, and Baker is the starting quarterback. The backup is PJ. Walker, who ironically did play last year against Arizona and beat them thirty four to ten. I don't know. You think Baker Mayfield long for the starting job in Carolina. No. I think he had his shot in the league with a really great old line running game, and he didn't take advantage of it. It's why you can't be Johnny Manzell or Baker. You gotta be mature, you gotta be buttoned up. Jamis Winston blew his opportunity with all those great receivers in Tampa. Now he's got a defensive coach in New Orleans. I mean Jamis Winston had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O J. Howard, offensive coach Bruce Arians could never grow up. Yeah, you just don't have time, folks. You've got to be a grown up as a quarterback in the league. The first team you go to, that's the one where they're not paying you. That's the team that can give you a good old line, good run game and weapons. But the time you sign your second deal, then you have an offensive line that looks like Carolina because you got to spend the money. Now, I mean, that's the reality of it is that That's why I was banging on this. You better be ready in a grown up to play, yeah, because that first roster will be your most talented. So what's logically next? We agree Baker's not built to hold that he's a backup? Well, is he gonna be? Is he more likely to go right to the booth? Does he try to call games? If I owned a network, I'd put Baker on as a college football announcer tomorrow. Absolutely, at tomorrow. I think he'd be great. He'd be Now, he's not clatter herb Street, but I would put him on a college game. He's got huge credibility Collegiately, he's totally outspoken quarterback. He's like you know, in baseball, a lot of catchers become broadcasters. In the NFL, a lot of quarterbacks become broadcaster. I think Baker Mayfield tomorrow as a college football analyst. I think he'd be in a number two booth within two years. Where does his pride say, I'm gonna stay ready. I'm gonna stay healthy and work out and be ready for the call when someone goes down. And he loves Oklahoma football. He has unbelievable passion for it. There's nothing wrong with that. I think he didn't need the money. Yeah, he's set. Given that he has, he could be a huge star as a broadcaster, and he made a lot of commercial money as well. All right. Moving from one struggling offense to another, the Chicago Bears, boy, it's been a rough month. The passing game has been particularly bad. Justin Fields ranked last amongst in completions yards. It's like he's playing in the nineteen fifties. Colin, it's really ugly the whole offense. But Justin Fields pushed back when asked what's been wrong with this part of the offense so far? You said last week you kind of threw out this excuse of it's early. Now you guys are four games in. You know, as you've had a lot of time with this offense. The running game is working. Why isn't the passing game more? Who said the passing game? The numbers aren't good. Numbers don't matter. I don't think in my opinion, Um, but you know, as long as we win, Like I said, that's that's all I care about. Well, the passing games, novels don't matter. Well, the winds matter more. But you know, I mean, we have to be honest about stuff. He didn't have a ton to work with. Um So listen, Matt Eberflus looks highly. Do they have a Sean McDermott in Chicago where they it's the wrong side of the ball, But they have a very good defensive coach. I think he's a really, really good coach. I just yeah, I have to be patient because offensively, I don't think Tom Brady could win with this team. I don't think they have who's their number two? Received to say, Brady elevated guys who were like six rounders, lacrosse players, anybody Brady would elevate. But it took Brady four years to elevate Edelman. Tom didn't elevate people initially. He had Branch You, I mean, who is that guy? But again it took him time. Justin fields, By the end of this year, there'll be people in our organization remember this GM and this coach that didn't draft. Just by the way, I think this GM drafted Trubisky and justin Fields, No, I think are you sure it might have been? I think it was paced GM was Trubisky. So this GM and this coach didn't draft Fields. They're not loyal to him at all. Yeah, this is the second year. If it doesn't work, remember you're in a division with Aaron Rodgers and the highly capable Jared Goffin Cousins. You can't have the fourth best quarterback in the division. You can. So um, you can say what about Garoppolo? Well, right now, Garoppolo is playing better than Kyler Murray and he is better than Gino Smith. Despite what face the Vikings, I believe this weekend they are not beat the Vikings. Like his defense is bad. No chance, Andy Dalton moved the ball up and down the field. The Fields can't. Colin you bet you bet against the Vikings last week I did. That was foolish of me. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stoping the herd line news. So um, here's a truism. However, it lands. It lands. UFC is a tough guy sport, basketball is a tall man sport, and football is a big man sport. Dere exceptions obviously, but um TWA is a small football player. People that have been around him say he's not six one. He's five eleven and a half and about two hundred and five pounds. Um people get uncomfortable because of everybody obviously cares good kid about his mental health and the concussions. And there's a story today he's out for week five. Many people believe, and I'm one of them. I'd sit in for two or three weeks. I just think it's just the smart side to be on. Shouldn't play this week, shouldn't play the following week. But here is a truth, and it makes people a little angry. Last four years college and Pro two, it has missed multiple starts in the last four years. Aaron Rodgers hasn't, Josh Allen hasn't. Tom Brady hasn't missed a start due to injury since two thousand and eight. Justin Herbert hasn't. Aaron Rodgers hasn't missed a start in six years. And let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. When you watch Aaron Rodgers, you don't think big, big guy, right. So I am six two a buck eighty nine. I weighed myself this morning for this segment. I'm a Buck eighty nine. Work out every day. I'm not I'm not big obviously, but compared to people on my staff, I'm much taller. I'm bigger than most people around the country. So Buck ninety, I'm six two. Aaron Rodgers is six two and waste thirty six pounds more than me. Aaron Rodgers walks into a room. Dude's a big dude. I've stood next to Aaron Rodgers. Big dude. He's ripped, he has butt, hips, shoulders, chest. Aaron Rodgers a big dude, six two two twenty five, Okay, And I when I walk around this company, I'm much bigger than my bosses. I'm much bigger than my producers. Okay, So Aaron doesn't look big. Aaron Rodgers doesn't look big. Six two two twenty five and pretty yoked two is a small guy. And so you start looking at this situation in Miami. They got the left tackle right, they got the coach right, they got the weapons right, they got the corners right. Maybe they don't have the great pass rusher yet, but I mean Lamar Jackson's a prime example. Lamar Jackson came into this league skinny he's six two and a half, two thirty. That is a that's that's Aaron Rodgers. That's a big dude. He's yoke you see Jalen Hurts. He's gotten yoked. And so when I look at the two A situation, you know, some things go without saying. Obviously everybody's concerned. I would keep him out for several weeks. There are people out there CTE specialists that say he should be out for the year. What do I know. I'm not a new rologist. I don't do brain scans. Maybe he should, but there also is a reality that grown ups, adults are having in the room and not saying things publicly, like we know this right when coaches go to the podium, when gms go to the podium, they're not telling you the truth. They're telling you what the media can handle. They don't want to start fires, right, So Sean McVay, you ask him a question, he gives you a safe answer that won't turn into a headline in the LA Times. The conversations now in Miami, obviously everybody cares about to his health. But it is interesting because if Miami finally looks like left tackle head coach Corners weapons. It's like they checked all the boxes. I don't remember the last fifteen years. When I looked at Miami, I went, they got everything. So now it's going to be very interesting. He's out against the Jets. He should be out against the Jets. You know, I saw a story this morning. Next year in the NFL draft, nobody wants to talk about size anymore. In the NFL for quarterbacks, Russell Wilson has made us believe, oh, small court size doesn't matter. It does too, admitted a month ago. I can't see over the line. Kyler Murray now is tired of getting hit, won't run. Bryce Young is the number one quarterback prospect at Alabama. He's six feet tall, one hundred and ninety three and a half pounds. That's smaller than twa So all this stuff is very interesting. What do you do if you're in Miami. I don't think it's easy. I think you're sitting there thinking to yourself. We care about the kid, We love the kid. The kid's good. We've got concerns on concussions. The media is barking. You just fire doctors. I think stuff is harder than people think. I think the NFL there's a lot of stories. It's very tough. You can go from rams to out of the playoffs in six months, and I think the Miami situation, I think now you have to protect the kid, you have to protect him from himself. You can't let him play. I'd keep him out for two to three weeks minimum, summer saying the year. They could be right, I could be wrong. Mike McDaniel yesterday. You know you're you're seeing now. Everybody goes to the podium now and everybody's on eggshells. Here's Mike McDaniels. Yeah, this is something that it's too early to give it definite timeline. I can comfortably say that he will be out for this game against the Jets, but anything beyond that, again, we're just focused on making sure he's optimal health and then crossing that bridge. So it's a little early for definitive timelines beyond that. Listen, everybody on the internet is absolutely sure they have all the answers. They're always right. This stuff's hard. I don't know what you do with Tua. I just know if I was a coach, I wouldn't want him out there. Not this week, probably not the following week. You know, I know everybody on the internet's got easy answers on this stuff. But we are now, you know, we're in this thing now where like size doesn't matter at quarterback, of course it does. The average great quarterback in NFL history sixty three and two hundred and thirty pounds. Aaron Rodgers is a yoke compared to the average American. He's like slightly smaller than you'd want as a quarterback. He's a little shorter than you want. So I don't know what you do with too. I think it's a Kyler Murray now in Arizona. There's concerns. You know, he doesn't want to get hit anymore. He stopped running because he's been hit, you know. Michael Vick said twenty nine. Was at twenty nine years old yesterday after a couple of hits. Michael, if you stand next to him, it's not real big, you know, Michael, at the end, was like twenty nine years old. I was done getting hit. I was done. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Nun Easter nine a Empacific. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong podcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society and pop culture meet the truth, absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays. Facts only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door, because nobodys is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights Are Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio, Apple Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Think about your happy place, sofa on a game day, fishing boat wherever it is, driveway dot com lets or buy or sell a car from there. Mark Sanchez in London, stand in London. Ten year career Fox Sports. But first of all, I watched the game this weekend. My takeaway is if you compared it to five to six years ago, it looks like London and Europe is way more into the NFL. That was my interpret. That stadium was packed, your thoughts, they were rocking and it's so funny. Well, I think that all does a good job, you know with the publicity for the PR team, you know, coming out here and you should have seen all the stadium graphics and they hadn't dialed in. You can tell this is a first class operation. But the fans, you nailed it. They're they're really starting to embrace this sport that we love across the pond, you know, and so they see you get every all thirty two teams are represented a million different eras and generations of football. Because you get somebody, you know, wearing like old school Joe Montana jerseys and Dan Marino jerseys, and then you get people that are you know, Vikings justin Jefferson, that are from you know, right around Tottenham Stadium, you know, not from Minnesota. And it was interesting too to hear. Usually, like the kicks in most you know, NFL games back home, they're you know, they're kind of silent. It's a quiet play. You get a chance to say what you want to say. But punts, kickoffs, you know, field goals, all that, everybody's like, oh right, no, I mean, listen, they like our football, We increasingly like their football. I love. I kind of like the symmetry of it. So, first of all, you're a former Jet. I thought Zach Wilson had a great fourth quarter for the Jets. I thought it was big for Salo. I thought there's a lot of buying when I watched that, and I came out of that weekend, and I'm like, listen, it may not feel big to anybody else, but in New York beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin that felt pretty big to me. Mark, No, that was a big deal. I just don't want him to get you know, don't start drinking the kool aid. Now that's you two Collin. So my man j Mack, I know he knows the Jets, but I want to take you to this play right before halftime. And this is a theme I see with Zach and something he's got to clean up, just absolutely has to eliminate from his game. But you got thirty three seconds left, it's third and eleven. You have two time ounce right here, and he throws that ball into a defensive team meeting. Are you kidding me? Like, absolutely not. And listen, I've done the same thing in my first two years. I know exactly. This is probably why I can't coach, because I would absolutely lose my mind and go choke the quarterback on the field. Like you, here's the problem. One, you have so much time. The time is more important, the timeouts are more important. The situation. Trump's this entire read. I don't care if we get the first down, you can scramble, you can do whatever. You're already in field goal range. Get a couple more yards, make it an easier chip shop field goal. But the fact that we're gonna put this anywhere near a defender, absolutely not. And on the coaching staff most importantly, if you know he plays like this and he's not ready to handle this situation, protect him from himself. Call a timeout, burn one of the timeouts. You have two, right so before halftime in these situations you get two timeouts, once for the kicking team, once for the offense. You got to burn one on offense because something goes wrong or because somebody stayed in bounds and you got to stop the clock. Burn it will you have an extra one, so earn it. Pull him to the sideline, grab him by the face mask. Hey, one thing we cannot do here. We cannot lose yards and we cannot throw an interception. We cannot give the ball away. That's it. Bottom line on this play. I don't care if we get eleven yards or not. Matters, absolutely none. So those kind of things, but it's the same decision, like preseason, making the move and getting hurt on the run, like, dude, just get down. You don't have to prove anything to anybody. It's preseason. I need you to play for the whole season. So little things like that, because let's just say Kenny Pickett goes in and throws one less interception, throws a touchdown, boom, you get beat by three points and you had a free three points before halftime. J Mack, you know how that media would have eaten him a lot. It would have been an absolute hornet's nest, all right, and it would have been you know, yeah, you have giants, so you had Viking Saints just stay in London. You have giants Packers, so you're starting to look at Packers stuff. Now I've said this before. They've gotten some breaks. They play a young justin fields. Tampa didn't have any of their receivers this week. New England's down to Bailey Zappi and took them to overtime. Sometimes in this league you get injury breaks. I look at Green Bay and I find them to be a very one dimensional team that they're not going to play from behind. They I don't think Aaron yet trust the receivers. I get it, they're kids. But when you look at Green Bay. They're starting to look a little like Tennessee to me, like they can win and win a lot, but boy, I don't feel like they're built for shootouts at all. Your thoughts looking at them, well, I think, you know, Aaron even admitted it that that's not a sustainable way to win games over the long haul. But the bottom line is they won the game, and they're they're talking about this from a winning perspective, right, because if you look you lose a couple of these games, then maybe these guys don't develop as quickly as you'd like, and they lose a little confidence. Not the quarterback, but the young receiving corps. And we've seen this with Tom Brady, with Peyton Manning, with all the great ones. They last so long in this league that eventually there's gonna be turnover in the wide receiver room, in the skill positions around him, and the supporting cast. So then it becomes a time on task deal and understanding these situations. And I guarantee Rogers has those guys in the film room trying to figure it out. But I liken it a lot to you know, Michael Jordan's like second three p Kobe's second version of Title Runs without shack, right, those guys like Aaron Rodgers screaming at the rap. Romo made a joke about it on the broadcast, but I mean he's screaming his head off at his second year center. Hey dude, snap me the FFing ball right right. Well, people are like, oh my god, I can't believe he talks to people like that. So my only thing is he's gonna bring these guys along. But just like Kobe, just like Jordan, those guys aren't there to be your best friend. Right They're in the twilight of their career. They can still ball better than any of them to ever walk this earth, and they're trying to win again, you know, because now it becomes like this addiction, like I need this action, I need this win, and I need these title runs, and so I'm not here to make you feel good. We're here to win these ballgames. So it's never personal. But he can He's gonna be all of these guys sometimes, and that's that's just the way it works. I mean, bottom line is show business, not show friends kind of thing. And you know he's gonna grind it out, but they gotta keep that run game going, and then the faster they can mesh quarterback, receiver, all that kind of stuff, that extra meetings, taking these guys through film, going through these situations, not just the ones they go through, but seeing other teams and having that situations real from around the league, Like, hey, look at the you know m Jets play before halftime. Look at these guys in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter, two minute row. Where did they screw up? Here's where you have to get out of bounds. Here's where you can stay in bounds. Here we don't have time out. Whatever. He's got to get those guys seeing the same way he does so he can really are attacking. We only have thirty seconds left. I don't know. You're in London. If you saw usc win, um, are you shocked? They're five and oh dead series? Are you surprised? Slightly? I'd say just a little bit. I thought they might have had like one maybe mishap or something. Or My only fear was like Oregon State sneaks up on him after they're riding high, you know, riding that wave of emotion and then you go on the road to Corvallis, and I mean that's a that's a tough, tough place to play. So I'm I'm glad they overcame those things and now it's gonna be There's some big ones coming up on the schedule. We talked about, you know, UCLA, Notre Dame, uh Utah, those are those are some big ones. So we'll see how they how they play when the lights get real bright. Yeah, he's not you know, Brock walked in five and oh, Oklahoma is not doing well without and that's a pretty good sign. They got a pretty nah not good Yep, that's the breaks Oklahoma. He came out to la it's a nice place to live, all right, Marky, Mark, you're in London. He is doing the Giant Packers, which I think is going to be a really competitive game. Fox Sports, you look great as Zoa's thanks man, appreciate you guys. Take sure you bet. No, it's I mean, I say this all the time. 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