Hour 1 - LeBron does it again

Published Feb 29, 2024, 9:08 PM

Colin looks at LeBron leading the way to a 21-point 4th quarter comeback and why his career is no longer comparable to Michael Jordan

There's interesting NFL grades going out to teams that may surprise

NBA reporter Rachel Nichols joins the show in studio to tell you if the Lakers are prepared to contend for another championship

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Now.

I don't think he's as good Nightly as a yokitcher, maybe a Janis, but on any given night or any given quarter, he is. I mean Michael Jordan at the end seven years before Lebron quit, and Lebron's got three to four more years. He's gonna sign a two to three year deal. So Michael at the end was just selling tickets for an unwatchable team in DC. Lebron scoring thirty four nineteen in the fourth to overcome a twenty one point deficit. Do you know Lebron's the second best scorer in the league in the fourth quarter to Yannis, Like Michael at the end, wasn't vertical. Now, Michael may have been cooler and for a six year stretch, seven year stretch, the best ever, But you can no longer compare the two. It's like comparing Sandy Kofax, who maybe had the greatest three year stretch ever in baseball, Like comparing him to Justin Verlander, who's been a dog, who's been an ace for seventeen years. Dude just won the Cy young like three years ago. You can't compare the two apples. And Orange is different career. You just Verlander body of work, it's different, it's you know, it's like I think Robert Downey Junior is a great actor, the Avengers Oppenheim. Great actor. You can't compare him to Robert de Niro. Robert de Niro won an Oscar Godfather to nineteen seventy four, two years later Taxi Driver, Top ten movie ever. This year nominated for an Oscar in a Killer of the Flower Moon. Haven't seen it yet. Pretty long, I'm told, I'm not sure if I will. That's fifty years. Robert Downey's had a hell of a nine year stretch. But I can't compare the two longevity matters. And it's not like, you know these baseball guys that everybody stumps for them to get to the Hall of Fame, and they play like sixteen years, and you know, one year they led the league in dumb and then one year they led the league hit by pitches and they're on base percentage and they may have taken steroids. You're not really sure, No, No, I mean Lebron's been great day one, first game ever, Cavalier in Sacramento great, and he's great last night. I mean, like Michael Jordan in DC. I mean, if you really remember, I've always said the best thirty for thirty that was never made. The documentary is the Michael Jordan Wizard Years. His teammates couldn't stand him. The team was awful. I saw him play twice live. Michael was good once, not so good another time. But I mean Michael was like like like at the end, it was like going to watch your favorite classic rock band at a state fair. Oh my god, you guys, Blue Oyster, calt Oreo, Speedwagon this week an original basis, Wow Wow. When Lebron is U two at the Sphere in Vegas, seven hundred bucks a ticket, standing room only. Again, it's completely different. They don't compare. It's Cofax to Verlin. A lot of things are fun and boutique and amazing, and they make good movies. Look he's doing here is silly. I mean just it's you know, I remember years ago when people were saying Aaron Rodgers better than Brady, and maybe his best year was and maybe for a two to three year stretch, Aaron threw a pretty er ball. But you can't compare the two. It's two different careers. One guy has a trophy room, not a trophy. Here's Lebron after a last night's performance.

For me, I just kept it. I kept a consistent and I wasn't taking ali shots. I stayed in the course at the offense, you know. So my teammates did a great job and continue to find me, you know. And then I just try to dictate the tempo, dictate the game. And it was just a zone that I just can't really describe it. You wish you could stand it forever, but obviously it checks out, you know, as the game hands.

All right, So I'm one of these people. I go to work and then literally when this show is over, Jay McK and I maybe grab a smoothie, wipe the makeup off, and we're out the door in five minutes. I really do appreciate that we have excellent coffee machines, and the Murdoch families put a lot of money into the facility, and it's nice, there's no question. But I'm here to work. They pay me to work. Come in six am, grind, go on at nine Pacific, done at noon, smoothie, out the door. That's what I'm paid to do. I can appreciate facilities, but I saw this yesterday. NFL player seventeen hundred voted on teams Survey of working conditions, and it is pretty embarrassing that the Commanders are dead last and they had the worst NFL owner in my opinion ever in Dan Snyder. And one spot above them is the Kansas City Chiefs. That's kind of embarrassing. And the report called the treatment of families D plus, the food C minus nutritionus F for the Chiefs, locker room F training step F, ownership F minus, team travel D head coach A plus. So they like Andy Reid, so Clark Hunt and they are putting I think eight hundred million dollars into the stadium and facilities. He pays his people. His head coach, highest paid coach in the league. His quarterback highest paid quarterback in the league. His defensive coordinator Chris Jones probably will be the highest paid defensive lineman soon. His defensive coordinator top two or three pay in the league, quarterback, general manager, head coach. He pays his people. A lot of owners skimp on that struggle with that, but they have beautiful facilities. Miami's owner was the highest graded owner, Steven Ross. Seriously, he's a real estate magnet from New York. Shocker. His Miami real estate is amazing and he loves to show it off to all his billionaire friends. That's what a lot of owners do. I e. Jerry Jones, look at my facilities. I'd rather you take care of the players and the coaches. I'm sorry, I'm not a big facilities guy. I don't want him to be a but a stadium is a workplace. Facilities are a workplace. The Cowboys have lush facilities, and they've been a soft franchise for twenty five years. Seven of the last ten Super Bowl winners the owners graded a D, so there is absolutely no correlation. In fact, the inverse is closer to the truth that great facilities equal lots of winning. Years ago, when I was a young cub sportscaster with a lot of promise and more hair, all of it brown, I worked in Las Vegas. Mike Tyson was ascending into a superstar. Mike Tyson used to work out at a gym called Johnny Toco's Ringside Jim in Vegas. I was there at least once a week. I fell in love with boxing. I'm not sure it had air conditioning. It smelled like the bottom of a boat. It stunk, it was hot and muggy. There was top rank Jim it was shiny andu utiful cross town. Mike Tyson liked to train at Johnny Toco's hot, dark, uncomfortable, and gave him an edge. I used to cover Oregon football. They built a new stadium. It got quiet. Old Yankee Stadium intimidated players. New Yankee Stadium has better restaurants. I'm not a facilities guy. I appreciate nice coffee machines. But there's a piez around the corner. All right, Well, Colin, why can't you have everything? Why can't you have it all? Because it's not the NBA. You don't get everything. Average players don't get great money. That's the NBA. You don't get twelve year contracts. That's baseball. The Patriots you got trophies. You didn't get the most money. Now, college facilities are often better than pro facilities because of recruiting. You want to show off to kids, but even to if you talk. And Texas football, by the way, has the bougiest facilities for the last seven eight years in college football. Show me the titles, aren't they a little soft? Cowboys Longhorns, great facilities, bougie, a lot of money. Wow, look at us, where's the toughness in primetime games. I don't know. I think there's a correlation between beautiful, amazing facilities and players feeling good about themselves and the owners showing off. But you don't get it all in the NFL, when you were getting trophies in New England, you had to sacrifice pay Tom Brady did for years. That was the deal. If you want the most money at quarterback, Broncos paid Russell Wilson. How they doing now in Kansas City? Mahomes does get the big money and so does Andy Reid, and both deserve it. But this is not This sport is different. It's not college football, where facilities lure people in. In Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers always got a great offensive line and no chaos. Bet they have cooler facilities in New York with the Jets. How's that working out for you? They've gone cheap on the offensive line. It stinks for plays. He's out. You cross your fingers he doesn't get hurt again this year. I'm sorry, but it's not the NBA. You don't get everything. Average players don't get massive contracts. You don't get guaranteed deals forever. Tom Brady and his prime could have been cut. Now Kansas City is adding eight hundred million dollars to it. And listen, not everybody can be Joe lakeab of the Warriors, and those facilities are a cash cow, a revenue machine. But the Bay Area is a lot wealthier than Kansas City. Twenty eight year olds in Silicon Valley are pulling down seven figures, and they'll pay nineteen bucks for a cocktail, in seventeen for a beer, and twelve fifty for popcorn the size of my small coffee cup. It's different. But one of the things I like about the NFL is there's no correlation between that stuff and winning. Seven of the ten last Super Bowl winners their owners got d's. But hey, we love our we love our guy in Miami, the real estate magnet showing his facilities off a real estate guy to his friends, congratulations. I'd take a better ole line in Miami. J Mackham all fired up on facilities, and I do we have here at Fox amazing upgrades and coffee machines right now. Verrett Bluestone Lane excellent. But what I like most of all is my staff is twice the size of the former place, which, by the way, I continually lost people because they wouldn't pay him a reasonable salary to produce a radio show and a TV show. They pay the people, they build the staffs, you have support. It's a team, it's a community. I like that. I have a parking garage, but I'll park across the street for a better staff and people being treated. Years ago, I worked at local news and I'm not gonna name the news director, very fine gentleman. He loved equipment and so our staffing was small. But we had a great helicopter. Oh oh oh, you should have seen our editing bays. But we never had enough people. Our vans were the best in town. Pay the best people. Spags, Andy Mahomes, Kelsey read Snead the corner. They're gonna franchise tag him. They're gonna pay McDuffie in two years. Rashi Rice is gonna get it eventually, like they're paying the people. Their scouting department, by the way, is out standing for years and years. Like the Cincinnati Bengals, by the way, for years and years, don't have a general manager. The owner does it. So the priorities and I everybody's gonna say, why can't you do both? Because nobody gets everything. Kansas City's great, Their weather's no good, their summers are hot, their winners are brutal. If you want perfect weather, come to Los Angeles. But the Chargers have been dysfunctional. You don't get everything. You don't get perfect weather. Most pay, best facilities, longest contract, all guaranteed. It doesn't work that way in the NFL. The cap is harder. Do I sound like an old curmudgeon?

No, No, not at all.

I mean if you had, if you kept on, you know, pumping up Michael Jordan as you were earlier, maybe you would.

But uh, a reasonable take by you. Yah. I like a good cafeteria.

I'm not gonna lie, and we do, and we have them.

The food options here at Foxer Yeah, you see what I eat for lunch. Okay, I don't do breakfast, but.

You literally do on average, a pork loin, garlic, mashed potatoes, and a chef's salad for lunch. During the Showy Smells, I got a doubt saget rated restaurant downstairs.

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App you're now entering the no bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Race. It's none of the bulls. So, according to sources, college football. I thought they were going to have a twelve team playoff. I thought it was all set in stone. I'll be happy for anything more than four. Apparently, now there's a new fourteen team model to include three automatic spots from the Big ten in the SEC two ACC Big twelve, So ten spots guarantee. I don't have a problem with it. A lot of people listening to the show are into sports tradition, the rear view mirror of sports coins, baseball cards, memorabilia. Knock yourself out. It's not me, like, stay current, not my thing. All I want is more big games. I would give you the Holiday Bowl, the Citrus Bowl, the Pop Tart Bowl, I'd give you every single bowl. You can take all of them, and I watched and loved all of them for years. I don't anymore, and I don't care. I'm good at quitting stuff. Maybe that's it, not a good great quality whatever. I just I can quit the Holiday Bowl. I'll be fine. It was sponsored by a credit union for a while. May still be. I think we'll be fine. I didn't even know they existed. I want the SEC in the Big ten Week one conference play. I don't need Bama against Mercer or Ohio State against Youngstown State, but Colin that's how Youngstown State survives. Well, then maybe they shouldn't have a program if that's what they need to survive. Seriously, Georgia, Western Kentucky, that's bad for the sport. Week one. I want Bama, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Michigan, Washington, Penn State, Ucla. Give me big games. I don't need to warm up. That's tailgating. We need more big games in college football. So if that means going from twelve to fourteen, I am for it. I want big games week one, week eight, and at the end of the season. That's why I've said the SEC getting Texas Oklahoma, I'm for it. I increasingly struggle to watch sixty three to fifty eight Big twelve games. It was flag football Pack twelve. I love it. Fans didn't care much. Look at the attendance outside of Washington and Oregon. I would eliminate every bowl game and be totally cool with it. Four a twelve to a fourteen to a sixteen team playoff. Fourteen team playoff works in the NFL. So if we go to a fourteen playoff and we had to eliminate all the pop Tart bulls, I'd eliminate the Citrus, out back sugar, whatever it takes. If you get me seven big brands against seven big brands, you eliminate all this nonsense that litters the sport. College football's quality at the highest level is great. I love the playoff this year Texas and Washington and Michigan and Alabama. But the sport is too often a menu, and seventy five percent of the stuff on the menu the nineteen pages is inedible. Go to a good restaurant, they have a sheet eight things, all good. That's what the NFL does, even they're bad or competent. There's no reason ever to see Mercer on my television ever never. I'm not interested. Nobody is Bama the dynasty for ten twelve years. At one point was struggling to sell home seats. Why Western Kentucky thirty eight six and a half more big stuff? And if that means twelve teams, fourteen team playoff eliminating bowl games, sign me up. I love the Winshield of sports. I got no interest celebrating the rearview mirror at all. Maybe that's a meat problem. Maybe it's a U problem. That's where I feel about this adapt or Die and I love the idea. I thought it was all finalized. They're still tweaking it to this hour, they're tweaking it. Just get me more big games. Jmack with a.

News no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline.

News fourteen is fascinating. I mean the breakdown of like when fourteens get buys at the like. Just reading it, I'm like, I like it more, the more the merrier, right.

It just give me right now? College football, you get the Big Ten championship game or something like late November, first week of December. Then you take a month off. Yeah, let's make December count instead of these bowl games, which increasingly nobody's going to. And I see the ratings nobody's watching, so like, stop clinging on to stuff that nobody really deeply cares about. Like we all got rid of our Rolodex. Like I know it was on our desk for thirty years, but nobody woke up and said, I love my Rolodex iPhone you'll get rid of it. Alarm clocks, it's on your phone. You got rid of it. If you can get rid of stuff that's average and elevate to great games for four weeks in December fourteen to you know, give a team or two a buye and it's big brand against big brand December and college football is games in Shreveport in had whether that nobody wants to watch like I'm over it?

Yeah, all right, let's get started with the NFL. Here me Cole Hartman.

We talked yesterday about his calling out of the Jets, took some shots on somebody's podcast.

Well inside New.

York, there was a belief that Hartman was frustrated with his usage and leaked the team's game plans to the Eagles and Chiefs when the Jets faced them. Sauce Gardner hinted at it, but then deleted his tweet. Another player kind of hinted at it.

Was it so Jet players think that the Jet players also thought they were gonna be good this show.

So listen, settled down? Settled down? Okay.

Hartman was very unhappy that he wasn't being used a lot when they weren't throwing the ball special teams, right.

I find it hard to.

Believe he would leak a game plan to the Eagles. The Chiefs maybe, but they leak it.

What do you mean?

What do you mean he calls Andy Reid and lays out what they're gonna do. I watched the Jets office. There wasn't much to leak. There were a lot of leaks in the offense. There wasn't a lot too late.

The Jets started out horribly against the Chiefs of memory serves, and then stormed back and made it interesting.

Okay, I don't know that just.

Seems like I mean Hardman.

By the way, when McCall Hardman came out and based on experience, said something that appears to be reasonably true, which is, there's a standard with the Chiefs that I didn't see with the Jets. There the Jets protecting their brand. A punter comes out and rips him. And now there's these we think he I said yesterday. Because McCall hardman game winning touchdown Super Bowl isn't a great player, doesn't mean he doesn't have great access or honest opinions.

Okay, So two things can be true.

A the Jets cannot have any of the traits that you need to win a championship, the helmets on the ground.

All that stuff can be true. You know what else can be true?

Hartman was salty that he wasn't playing, that he got bypassed.

In the rotation for punt returns.

But that can also be true. Yeah, but that's a big claim that McCole Hardman's giving a game plan to a team. That's a that's a whole different claim.

Well, by the way, did me cole Hardman shoot that down in any way, shape or form.

Well, after that came out, people have said things about me. I don't give it oxygen. There's no reason to even discuss that. If he believes it's ridiculous. Don't give things oxygen and get into a battle. Don't punch down to hold a hunter.

How about this, don't start something you can't finish. Okay, Hardman started this by going on the pot and taking a dump on the Jets, which is fine.

A lot of people take shots, but.

When they start firing back, you can't just duck and run for cover. That's not how it worked going right, He's goin.

If you're a Kansas City chief and had the game winning touchdown, punching down is a waste of your time. Let inferior people say all they want. Don't hand them your ig account, don't hand them your audience, don't hand them your relevance. He's a relevant player. The Jets are not.

I can't wait for the Jets Chiefs playoff game next year.

And uh, all right, they're not going to.

The class fight. Next up, the Bears.

The number one pick in the draft, GM, Ryan Poles did not rule out the possibility of trading it, but a radio host in New York, Boomer asias In disagrees with that strategy. He said that the Bears if they pass on Caleb Williams, then Poles should be fired. I'm not gonna take shots at Boomer sias And like I did last time, but I'll let you I'll let you take this from Colin.

Firing the GM if they pass on Caleb Movies No, I mean, if they dropped to number two they think Drake May is good and they also get four number ones or whatever. You can't No, that's over the top. I don't. First of all, I don't like you. I mean, Brandon Staley was somebody infrequently I'll be like, that's not working, and I don't know if Ryan is good at what he does. There's a couple moves. I like the Chase clay Pool. I didn't like the Montes sweat. I loved and we loved it before he played. Well, we said the day they made that move, that's a great move by him. So he's like every GM he's made great moves and he's missed Dj Moore trade with Carolin like that, you know, so he's made some good moves. The Vilas Jones third round pick, I did not like it. All said it at the time, So I don't know. I don't that that feels a little hot to me. Yeah, I mean it's again, let's just play play for ten. So all of a sudden they come out and they go to the number three pick, and they can get let's say, Jaden Daniels and they end up getting from you know, New England or something. They end up getting two first and two seconds, and you're getting somebody who you your scouts say, we think he's a franchise quarterback. I'm not saying I would do that. I would take Caleb absolutely, but if your scouting department comes in, I mean, these scouting departments come in and they say, listen, we can get eighty percent of Caleb and four elite picks to go on with our picks. You know, so I think I always you know, do this or be fired is a little hot for me.

Yeah, that's typical.

You know shot. Well, let's come on, not shock Jocko drive time rate. You love to take shot the guys in Topeka.

No, you can take a shot of Boomer.

Come on, I have no interest in them.

Yes, h final story, Luka Doncic, my guy, they're twenty five years old. This week, it led the MAVs to a dominant win over the hapless Raptors with a trip dub thirty eleven board, sixteen assists.

Looks a little heavy to me.

Stop it. Come on.

This is eleven triple double of the season, the first player in league history to record a thirty point triple double on his birthday. Colin by the way, most thirty point triple doubles in NBA history. Luka Doncic is already third in the history of the league.

He's twenty five years old.

I know people don't want to hear this, but there are very few players in NBA history who have accomplished as much as Luca has by the age of twenty five, he is, I mean he's on a different Look.

At some of the guys he's around a lot of trophies there.

Yeah, they didn't win trophies before they were twenty five?

Did?

I mean? How many?

How many trophies for James Harden? That's right?

I like Luca. I think Oscar Robertson got one like an ending nice if he didn't stop at half court and played the little defense.

So what, honestly, who do you like less, Luca or Jason Tatum?

Jason Tatum plays defense. Luca is a better offensive player. Jason Tatum's a winning player. Lucas a sensational offensive player. Well, he's number one in ball usage in the league, meaning he's got the ball in his hands all the time, which if you look at the history of guys who are number one in ball usage Harden, it doesn't translate. It's exhausting and by the time you get to May, players don't have a lot of juice. So I think his ball usage should come down. I think he should play better defense. I think he's a great score. I've been watching this league since seventy two. A lot of guys score a lot of points. Who's hoisting the trophies? When Michael Jordan, he when Bill Jackson and then his brilliance told Michael, you want to win scoring titles, but do you want to score a little less and pass a little more? And when win trophies?

Yea.

So it's sixteen assists.

I guess it's not passing them.

Well, I mean, if you have the ball in your hands all night, sixteen assists, probably you start the game with nine.

He's mean the guy, what what can't he do it?

Don't say don't play defense?

Some of the numbers this year, some of the numbers he's been I'm not even I know you're laughing, but some of the numbers MAVs fans have pulled them up the analytics crowd. He's like a top ten defender in the post against certain players.

Now I know he's guarded.

He's a top ten defender in the post, yes, certain players.

Again, I'm not this is not make that. The MAVs fans have pulled the stats in there.

They tracked.

Now who's the players not guarding the play?

Brothers?

I saw him over the weekend. What are the plumb Leaves tried to recruit him to my basketball team.

I'm like, if you want to win a real banner, come join the Foxes.

You're not winning with.

The Jamack within the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line.

New We've got a lot of stuff today. We do. I probably should never wear a gray shirt with this big head of white hair, but you know, sometimes you just got to roll it there. How did you guys win last night? You post a big don game tonight.

I was one of your favorite restaurants last night. A lot of Herd fans there. So for the record, tonight, Warriors play the next I'm not sure if Jalen Brunson plays, but that's an interesting game.

I'll tell you right now. Celtics net Nugget's best teams in the league, no dispute, And everybody loves Minnesota Okac, but I think Okac's too young to win the West. And Minnesota is a team that I like a lot of it. I don't know if I trust and Edwards and Kat in the playoffs, and Rudy Gobert, keep your eye on the Warriors, keep your eye on this team. They are playing. I watch them play Denver, they outplayed them for three quarters. They don't match up with Denver at all. It's a very good game. Golden State is very good.

I have an incendiary take on the NBA playoffs. I don't know if you want me to save it for next hour, third hour. It's it's spicy. You're probably not gonna like it.

Just FYI.

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You know it is it is. I've said this. I always appreciated this, Like I think there are certain comps, and I understand the Lebron Michael stuff, but it is weird. It has a Sandy Kofax like Justin Verlander, feel like Verlander's been great for It's a de Niro Robert Downey junr. It's great. Won one an Oscar in seventy four and may get another one here in twenty twenty four. Lebron's doing stuff. And I've said this, He's not the best consistent player in the league, but there are nights like last night He's easily the best player on the floor of two really good teams. Did it feel like that.

One hundred percent?

I mean, Lebron is a transcendent player, and that was a transcendent performance last night. He has never done anything like that before.

That's crazy.

When Lebron, who is in year twenty one, gets to something he's never even done before, you know it is a very big deal. So that is just phenomenal what he did last night. Obviously, offensively hitting all those threes was terrific, but the fact that he played great defense. He bothered Kawhi on that last shot and when they started doubling him and just kind of made it impossible for him to get to the basket. He had all the right passes to all the right teammates who he had given a ton of confidence too. So you know, I've been saying it's like the Toby Keith line. You know, I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm good ones as I ever was, right when that's what Lebron is right now.

He cannot be the.

Lebron of his MVP seasons in Miami every single night for eighty two games plus three months of the playoffs, But man, when he puts it out there, nobody can match in the league what he does on the nights that he is as hot as he.

Is because they have players on the roster. The Clippers that have had Kawhy's had some great postseasons. But Paul George, I think, to some degree unfairly has been criticized for his playoff performances. I think he's better than people think. Yeah, James Harden has run out of gas. Westbrook's been very hot and cold. Nobody, necessarily myself included trusts the Clippers in the postseason. Is last night in indictment? Is there anything you watch and think, man, that felt like a playoff game at the end, and they didn't have it.

I don't think so.

I'm not spinning out a much larger judgment. Look, nobody should be up twenty one points in the fourth quarter and lose, no matter who you have out on the floor. But you do have to remember two of their five starters were out right and all Georgie in particular.

He is a backbone of that team.

He is a plus player in every game, not even by a little bit, And twenty one points is.

Not what it used to be.

In the last few years alone, the Clippers themselves have been down more than thirty points and come back to win games, and other teams around the league have done it too, So you can't look at this and be like, man, they can't handle anything anymore. But I do worry about the Clippers handling length. There are some other big teams in the Western Conference Denver, Soda, Denver and the Lakers with Ad and Lebron, and I just think that this would have been a good win for them, especially without Zoo, but it didn't happen.

They didn't have Zubu.

I mean, we'll have to see what happens, but they do have to figure out that how to play length problem before they get to the playoffs.

One of the things, as I've always liked players like Drew Holliday because we talk about stars and mobility in the NBA a lot, But the truth is Lebron's been mobile and successful, Kd's moved around. Probably should have never left the Warriors. We also talk about stars a lot.

I should have gone to the next I'm just gonna keep thinking that drum.

But there's also players in this league that are wildly valuable and they don't get discussed a lot. So really, one key player change the Bucks in Celtics Drew Holiday. Yep, Milwaukee is not close to the same team and Boston looks like, I mean, significantly better than the rest. I think the Celtics are much better than the rest of the East than even Denver is against the West. I think there are teams that could give Denver. I don't think anybody plays with Boston. The Milwaukee situation, they had a coach with a winning record, they got rid of him, like the Doc thing. I know ESPN was unhappy he just jettisoned them. What do you make of Milwaukee and Boston? Now? Is it a Drew Holiday thing? Should we be worried in Milwaukee. I mean Yannis Rachel, he's gotten a little westernized. He was such a nice kid. Now he talks about get me this, fire this. If Milwaukee is a one and done, is Yannis there?

I mean, look, you don't win anything in professional sports by being nice. So I have no problem with Giannis knowing what he wants, asking for what he wants.

That is the modern MBA.

And look, I personally would not have fired Adrian Griffin with that record, but we all know that playoff wins are different than regular season wins. And if they felt within that organization, if in the locker room among the players, they felt this guy is not a playoff coach, and we are trying for the finals. We are not trying to have a nice showing in the second round. That is I assume why they felt they needed to make a change. And we've seen so many teams right who are good regular season teams and then they just cannot handle a playoff environment. I am curious to see if the Bucks turn into sort of the opposite. They have Damian Lillard, they have Jannison to Tokompo, they have other good players, and in Doc Rivers. Obviously everyone has talked about his record in seven game series, etc.

Etc.

But he is a championship coach who is won of title. He's won big games in a lot of really hardcore playoff situations, and I'm curious to see if when the rosters are, you know, the bench is shortened and all the other stuff, whether that team performs better in the postseason than we have seen so far. But I will say I agree with you on the Celtics, no matter how much better than Milwaukee Bucks get. The Celtics are so clearly the class of not just the conference.

You can watch them on any given night they went, they go to Philadelphia. Now obviously inbid's not there, but when you watch them on a consistent basis against Eastern teams.

They just destroy everyone.

So with Boston, to me, the question isn't really are they coming out of the East.

Anything can happen.

And the people in Milwaukee, I mean in Miami right now, I hear you screaming at their televisions.

But wait, there's us. Never forget us.

We've beaten Boston a couple of times when it accounts in the playoffs. But I really think the question for them is can they beat a Denver Let's say, if that's who they match up with in the finals, and those are the most likely teams to get there, and I just I don't know. I think for the Celtics it's not championship or bust, because obviously they're a young team. If they don't win this year, they're gonna be able to come back next year. I do think for the psache of that Boston team, absolutely great. They lost to the Warriors in the finals in a series the.

Game they had control, yes, and they got dogged at home.

Yep.

And then even that series against the Heat last year.

And again no disrespect to Miami because that team we've seen just comes alive in the postseason, but they should have. Boston should have won that series and the fact that they didn't. So if they do make it to the finals again this year, I think for their sort of mental who are we what can we be? Are we a championship group? They kind of need to win this year. Otherwise I wonder if they'll do a little tinkering over the summer.

Yeah, that's what I feel as well. So New York tonight plays Golden State. Warriors are a fascinating team. Usually after a dynasty Michael Jordan's team, the Heatles, you kind of bought them out for a few years. They have kind of pivoted. They hit on a draft pick, kind of the next Clay Cominga's pop Chris Paul Back. They're actually really Draymond has been great. Wiggins, who is bad early now has found his role in his groove. So I like Golden State tonight in that game. As somebody that is a Nick fan, I thought they would now they've had injuries to Julius Randall, but I do feel it's pretty obvious when you watch them and you see a Denver or even a Lakers or a Golden State or you see a Boston, I feel like they're missing a piece, an offensive piece. Were you surprised they didn't make a move at the deadline.

I wasn't only in that there wasn't something out there that felt like to me, oh my god, we have to have this. I think the Ogan Andobi move, which was what a week and a half before the deadline, or or two weeks before the deadline, whatever it was, was their deadline move. I think that they have more to do, though I agree with you they have a missing piece to be a championship level team.

Fortunately, they have the assets to do that.

So whether it's this summer, whether it's before an next year's trade deadline, I expect them to do something big and I expect it to make a big impact.

So finally, I think Victor Webbin Yama is fascinating. I'm old schools.

It's so fun.

Yeah, there's a little sambuie. It's you know these guys now, these European players come down the wing at seven to three, put it on the deck. I mean, it's it's just a whole different ballgame. You can't bottom line is, you can't handcheck. So everybody gets to the basket and there's no bigs at the rim because they're all in the perimeter shooting. When you covered him, when you've been at games, what's the atmosphere like with you?

Yeah, So I'm just a couple of weeks ago at a game and he is just I mean, people's jaw drop. On TV, he looks great, but I promise you in person, it is an entirely different experience. It looks like he can do anything he wants. He was playing against the Lakers. He made Anthony Davis look small. I mean, Lebron said. I looked over and Anthony's looking like, you know, a regular sized person over there. If he played on a better team, I think he would be a strong.

Candidate for defensive the Player of the Year.

Right now as a rookie. And he still has more progress to go, I said. As he entered the league. I said to me, if he is able to stay healthy, he already has displayed he has the drive. If he is able to maintain that, he could be a top ten player of all time. And that is not something you say about guys who haven't played a bounce yet in the NBA. But to me it seemed obvious, and I got to say, nothing has changed my mind.

Jeff Holmgren, similar body type. We worry about Wemby, but more Chet home grin. Will they be pushed around? I heard a lot of scouts say pushed around. But you watch the offensive game of Chet and Wemby and you're like, these kids, I mean, these guys are You're talking seven footers that can put it on the deck and beat you off the dribble. It's insane.

And remember what Yannis looked like as a rookie right EASi before and after pictures. I mean, he looks like a totally different body and totally different person. Get Victor webin Yama in an NBA strength and conditioning program. He's already started to put on some muscle. I expect that to continue.

Rachel Nichols, all right, great, Cenia. She got a good one last night as the Lakers came roaring back from a twenty one point deficit. I was almost turning it off. People were leaving in Lebron Dida, Lebron. Our two. We go to NFL Combine, which there's a lot of stuff justin field. My wife said, Colin, be nice to the Bears. Can you can you rip another team please,

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