Hour 1 - Lamar Jackson vs Josh Allen

Published Jan 17, 2025, 9:33 PM

Colin looks at the divisional round of the NFL playoffs with a huge match up between Lamar Jackson & Josh Allen telling you which star quarterback has more to gain with a signature win

He gives his thoughts on the weird relationship between Eagles HC Nick Sirianni and QB Jalen Hurts

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Here we go. It is a Friday. We are live in Los Angeles, and it is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I'm a blazing four in one hour. Jmax got his picks. Actually, I think it gets easier as you get to the playoffs because you have the best quarterbacks and you kind of know what you're going to get in the performances. So here we go on a Friday, Jamax, I want to start the show talking Phil's Ravens and then Rams Eagles because the Eagles feel combustible but yet to keep winning. Let's start with Baltimore and it sounds good.

I thought you would start with your haircut. That's like you got a little streatball.

Bolas. Hygien is essential for our show, especially during the football season. So let's start with this. It is Bill's Ravens, which has a chance to be the best football game of the last five six months. But it's also a game about Josh Allen and about Lamar Jackson, and it really is, and it may be unfair, but it's a quarterback dominated league, and so I think the game means more to Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen's actually been very good in the postseason. Infect his passer rating in the playoffs is one of the best ever. He just lost to Joe Burrow once and Mahomes three times. But Lamar Jackson often feels like a different player in the playoffs. It's like Derek Jeter in baseball. You got the same Jeter regular season or the World Series. That's Josh Allen Lamar. You look at the numbers, you don't. He's closer to Barry Bonds, the Great Barry Bonds. First twenty eight playoff games, he had one home run. Where did the power go? Lamar looks tight, he looks anxious, he admits it, and you're left scratching your head. And that's why I believe this game means a lot more for Lamar Jackson. If he plays well and loses, that's okay, because we all get how good Josh Allen is, and we all get how good Buffalo is. I mean, he loses in overtime and puts up three hundred total yards, we're fine. But if Lamar delivers another clunker, and he's had a few as a playoff quarterback, not all, but if he delivers a clunker, it's going to start to define him and how he plays matters. Peyton Manning, for the longest time, was known as the second best Manning in the playoffs. It was Eli quirky, Eli that was cool under pressure, could win on the road whether it didn't matter, and it wasn't until Brady. If you go back to I was looking this morning, Manning was three and six. He started the playoffs three and six, that was his playoff record, and he was zero to two against Brady and he was awful in the games against Brady. It was Eli that was cool under pressure. So that Denver stay for Peyton Manning really really helped his legacy and now we consider him. Oh, Peyton Manning was great all the time. Like Lamar, he'd had some decent early playoff games, but until he won that first Super Bowl. We were looking around going, oh, he gets a little tight. He's a teeth clencher. And that's how we feel about Lamar. What Lamar doesn't want to be and I don't think he is at all. But you don't want to be James Harden where everybody kind of rolls their eyes. You're great in the games that don't count, but you're shrinking the big ones. So I think the pressure is absolutely on Lamar Jackson. Now here is the good news. You have to dig a little bit deeper on Lamar Jackson. And this is why a lot of the odds makers think Baltimore should be the favorite. Is Lamar's first four playoff games, it was like early Peyton Manning. He wasn't very good passera at sixty eight, but he has gotten better in his last three playoff games. So Sean McDermott this week talked about the battle not only Bill's Ravens, but about Josh against Lamar.

I see the comparison or the parallels they've probably in there, though in terms of the uniqueness of both players right and not short changing either of them. I mean they're they're the best, They're the top shelf in the NFL those two.

And it should also be noted whereas Joe Burrow, some would argue, is equally talented, his franchise had to sell off naming rights for the stadium for them to be able to afford Joe Burrow's contract. You can't take the Bengals seriously because of upstairs. The Ravens are well run, the Bills are well run. So both franchises have gotten these remarkable all time unique talents, really really good players. Now I think Buffalo's got more good players than Baltimore. So I like the Bills at home this week. But what's really great about this game, It's not just great quarterbacks. It's great organizations, much like Mahomes in Kansas City. And I think we have a chance to see the best football game in the last six months. So I want to talk now about the Philadelphia Eagles, who I think will beat and host the Rams. So I just tried. They're a jigsaw puzzle to me, I can't. I know the Eagles are well run, but it is fascinating. I saw another story this morning and it said Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianna's Sirianni's relationship is finally in a better place as they get ready for the playoff run here and I thought to myself, I'd hope. So they won twelve of the last thirteen games. They're forty eight and fourteen all time together. How can they not get along? It would be like one of those Hollywood divorces. You're like, the people are both beautiful, their kids are beautiful, they're rich, they're pampered that live in Beverly Hills. Can't you guys get along? A lot of couples with much less are doing much better. And what's interesting about it is, you know the stories not coming from Jalen Hurts, All these stories about their relationship, right, because Jalen Hurts went to the Nick Saban School in Alabama of Never Say Anything, and he's also a very mature adult, quiet reserve kid. So the leaks must be coming from Siriani. I don't think they are. Why because Nick Sirianni looks bad in this How the hell can you not get along with him? Everybody likes Jalen Hurts. Where are the stories coming from?

So?

I think it's fascinating. And that's the first part. Who's leaking it? The second part is that I keep thinking about this is if you're struggling to get along now and you're winning five of six games year together, what happens when you start losing? I mean, and this is what's interesting. Last year, remember down the stretch they were awful. If you take that stretch last year when they were awful, lost six to seven games, they're forty eight and fourteen together. If you have the playoffs, that's that forty eight and fourteen record. I'm taking out that bad stretch, so it's almost all been rainbows, harmony, pots of gold. But maybe it was that little stumble last year, that little stumble at the end, that six ' seven take that out there, forty eight and fourteen that caused all this, that they're really not built for each other. Or maybe it's this and I was thinking about that. Every time I see a story on this, I think about this. There are families, and I've known people like this. They're always arguing, and yet they last forever and they're incredibly close. You see this all the time. Sirianni is young, and he's emotional, and isn't Philadelphia one of our more emotional cities. Siriani is come comtive, so is Philadelphia. Nick Sirianni always looks tired and ornery. Philadelphia is kind of tired and ornery. Doug Peterson was too chill for Philadelphia. Chip Kelly, you could argue, was too emotionally remote for Philadelphia. And there's an argument that Nick Ceriani is perhaps perfect combative, feisty, looks tired, and Big Dom has his arms around all of it. We have all known a family like this. There's a comedian out there, mana Caasko, Sebastian Minikawsko. He jokes about his family. He's like, we fought, We argued, Dad couldn't give you a compliment. At some point, I wouldn't let him come to my shows. And the guy's one of the biggest rock stars in comedy in the United States today. And I thought about that comedian because I went to see him in Chicago about six seven weeks ago, and he was hysterical and a lot of it's about his family, and I'm like, this sounds like a brutal childhood. Yet they're incredibly close, and I'm like, maybe this is Sirianni. The Philly fans Big Dom Jalen Hurts the loud sports talk radio. It's the family that screams and yells and argues even at Thanksgiving, even on vacation, and that they love each other. It wouldn't work for me, but it works for them. I like Philadelphia and Buffalo. Blazing five picks top of next hour. J Mac, you know it's same four teams in the final four in the AFC.

All.

We talk about this all the time. Week to week. The NFL is really difficult to predict, especially when you talk about betting lines. But on a macro level, it's very easy to figure out. You start looking around. It's it's Lamar, it's Josh, it's Hurts, it's golf, it's Stafford, it's c J. Stroud. You know the only great quarterback who didn't make the playoffs Joe Burrow, whose organization always like they're frugal and pinsion pennies and the little backwards. But I got blazing five today. You got your picks. I think we're going to be treated like college football. The longer the playoffs went, the better the games went. So I think we're going to be treated to that.

So you don't think we're getting three blowouts. I mean, how many blow off we get last week in like five.

No.

I even think Commanders if they get the opening kick and score and get the Lions a little bit on their heels, then I think it's interesting. Now if Detroit wins, it takes it down seven to nothing and starts marching with confidence rested, and by they're getting defensive players back, that game I feel could get ugly.

For what it's worth, that line just hit ten. Detroit is favored by ten. Yeah that's the one I spread this week. Yeah, you know me and big spreads. I stayed away that in that in the Blazing five, I could see Detroit rolling them, but I could also see Commanders. Jayden Daniels is hard to figure out. They stay in games.

The Commanders stay in games when they get out played, and it's almost a talent that you look up and you're like, Washington doesn't have as good a players. They're getting outplayed. One of the only games I saw all year where I thought it was a stinker for them. I mean, they really didn't show up was New Orleans and they still ended up. Remember that game, they go down to New Orleans, they don't play very well at all, and they're the better team there, and they still figure out a way to win the game. They figured out ways to win games the Bears game in which you think they're outplayed.

Yeah, hanging around.

Just hang around and let Jayden Daniels take you to the Promised Land.

Yeap.

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Came man because I'm prone to do, I'm driving into the show today and I had an idea I have said for the Chicago Bears, I think it is too big of a lift to hire somebody that's never been a head coach. So I would go with Mike McCarthy. But there is a story out can the Chicago Bears resist Marcus Freeman? Now? Jordan Schultz on our show yesterday said it to coach Race Ben Johnson, Mike McCarthy. There's a lot of politics and dysfunction here. I couldn't go with a young coordinator, but Marcus Freeman's not. He's a head coach. And if he beats Ohio State Monday with one five star athlete, that's that's fewer than Kentucky football has and that's a basketball school. One five star athlete. Ohio State has fourteen. Do you offer him the gig? He's the closest thing I've seen to Sean McVay. And when Stan Cronke interviewed Sean McVay, la Rams owner, he would not let him on the plane before he signed. And if you've ever been around Sean McVay or watched him at the podium, bruh, he's different. So they brought him in for an interview and said, yeah, we're gonna change plans. We're hiring him. And I thought watching Marcus Freeman, and this is how the Rams thought. If you don't hire McVeigh, you have to coach against him for the next fifteen years. Let's just give him the job. Little risky thirty years old, and Marcus Freeman has a chance to be the youngest coach to ever win a national championship. And I look at him and I think, if you meet him and you see his energy. McVeigh went to a Rams team that was worse than the Bears. They were four and twelve and the worst offense in the league, and their quarterback Goff went oh to seven. The next year, the Rams won eleven games and had the number one ranked offense. Now I'm not saying Marcus Freeman's a quarterback expert, but Riley Leonard's a lot better at Notre Dame than he was at Duke. And this team should not be playing for a national championship. And my point is some people are simply different. He also does it the right way. He's slow patient. So Sean McVay has been with the Rams about as long as I've lived in LA and he's winning double digits virtually every year, even in rebuild. As long as his quarterback is upright and healthy, he wins. I don't know if Marcus Freeman even has to beat Ohio State, but one of the things that's pretty clear having watched McVeigh here, there are coaches that are simply different. And I said this a couple of weeks ago when I watched Marcus Freeman on television. I watch him at the podium, I watch him on the sidelines, and I watched the staff he built at Notre Dame, which is arguably the best staff in college football. That is one of the secret sauces to McVeigh. He runs through staff, doesn't matter, doesn't matter who's OC or DC. He shouldn't be as good about DC's as he is, And yet McVeigh keeps hiring these dcs who keep getting jobs, and offensive coordinators keep getting jobs Kevin O'Connell, Zach Taylor, and they end up in the playoffs. I mean, Belichick's tree can't win games. Mcveigh's are getting to Super Bowls and turning a Minnesota Vikings team into a fourteen win team. So I think with Marcus Freeman, I'm gonna watch this game Monday. You know, he may just be different. I think the Bears is too big of a gig to give it to somebody that's never had a head coaching job. Notre Dame is not your typical college coaching job. It is somewhere between college and the pros. It's not the pros, but the pressure, the alumni, the religious umbrella, the academic difficulty. It is not It is not a typical college job. Another reason I can't wait for Ohio State and Notre Day Monday. Bears will probably hire somebody before the game. I think I sit and wait for the game. I think I just sit and wait for the game. I just want to see what it looks like Jmack with the news.

No, no, no, this is the herd.

Lie urban Meyer came in our show. In fact, we have a buy. I want to play this by urban Meyer is not easily impressed. This was urban Meyer on our show was It earlier this week? Talking about Marcus Freeman.

His maturity of a coach is I don't want to say it's unprecedented, but it's phenomenal what he's done. They got something very special in that locker room, their leadership, their toughness to refuse to lose. He's always had that reputation of doing things the right way, of being unselfish and extremely hard work, and I think that's what he is.

He was that as a player, he's that as a coach, and it bleeds into his team. There you go.

I'm one hundred percent with you. I think be great in Chicago. Let's start with Bill Belichick.

Collins So he was introduced as UNC's next head coach many moons ago.

Yeah, moons ago.

He's been on the recruiting trail and.

Putting his staff together, but reportedly he's operating without a signed contract.

This report adds.

There could be a legal gray area about how much, if any, of a buyout would be if he were.

Decided to return to the NFL. A lot of people just keep pushing this Belichick out.

But you know, it's funny about this because college football and college recruiting can get a little sketch. You don't think Bill's let out there. No, this is all his rivals saying, hey, this guy's flying the coop. He's going now. I thought if Buffalo or the Eagles lost in the first round, he'd get a phone call. Since they both won and convincingly, I think Bill's staying at Carolina for a year. But when a story you and I talk about this, when a story gets out, it's not just the story, it's why did it get out and who leaked it. This feels like somebody, an agent for somebody or something is like putting it out there that. Yeah, when Bill comes on your recruiting door and knock knock, knock knock, just knows contract.

Isn't something dirty. It's pretty dirty.

Yeah, whoever doing this, maybe Dabo Sweeney who knows was planting these stories.

I think we could just close the door. He's not coming, he's not coming back.

He's going to coach at Carolina this year and you think maybe next Come on.

I think it's just a fun storyline, like Dianna and the Cowboys, who we'll get to.

Why do we do that?

Now?

Actually move on to the Dallas Cowboys.

Okay, they're in a coach exert.

Jerry Jones and Dion are being linked so hot and heavy that Cowboys head coaching odds are out and Dion is number one. Put in, put stock into this, whatever you will. The number one's one. Robert Salah in second.

That is comical. Oh my god, get out of here now. Listen.

You can't get down any real money. You can't put six figures on this, nothing you would. Kellen Moore is third, Ben Johnson his fourth, Cliff King for his fifth.

Come These are the odds that are out.

Yeah, I don't know.

Steve Starkeshan is is others, and so as is Witten, Bill Belichick.

I don't know.

I mean, you know, this was Jerry being patient. Jerry being patient. You know, Jerry has that saying whenever I try to get a bargain, that's exactly what I get. So it's not a money thing. Everybody keeps talking about the buyout. I think Bart I think, what if, what if Jerry's doing this? Let me just throw this at you, okay, is that Jerry wants to hire Deon Sanders and he'll be able to use the excuse, well, I gave it great thought, and he's going to let other guys get hired and say, you know, we looked at them, but they got hired by somebody else. And that Jerry his primary focus from the very beginning has been Deon Sanders because the team now is boring and Dion's not. And that Jerry, how did this get out? Who leaked the story? I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out. That part of doing a three hour show is throwing out conjecture. Fun is that Jerry really wants to hire Deon and it's okay to hire him. Let's let Rabel's the best candidate gets hired somewhere else. Rabel would want to say in personnel, and Jerry didn't want to give that up. Jerry didn't want to give that up, so he did. And by the way, you know, there's other candidates here who have multiple offers from multiple teams. They'll want more power. Jerry doesn't like relinquishing it. That Dion would come Dallas and wouldn't ask for a lot of things other than good salary get him out of Colorado. Maybe be a bit more grateful, because nobody, nobody talked about d On coaching in the NFL seriously until four days ago.

Well, wait a minute, he talked about that. We knew that Shador was going and.

We thought he would file, but he os downplayed college. He loves college, he loves the kids and the life journey and offering wisdom.

Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, you're Maybe you're right, Like Jerry went out nixes and oh this is about butts in the seat and eyeballs on the screen.

And Jerry, this is Jerry's number one candidate and he's letting it come out slowly. But it's really who we want.

So the Cowboys aren't even a top ten team.

If they land Deon Sanders' coach, they're probably gonna get three or four games in the Fox four pm window, a bunch.

Of Sunday night football.

There's no question they're gonna be talked about on this show, no question, assuming we're here. Every other show out there, they're gonna just be talking about.

The merchandise sales. Remember fans can belly ache. I don't love my team. This sting the minute you hired Dion merchandise sales through the roofs like team number to O. Everybody hated too until he was on your team, and then he loved win.

He could take you places.

He's a really town forty nine ers, he won Eagles got to the super Bowl, like he's a really good player. I mean, this could be like a spectacular combustible two years now.

Because you say Dion's not gonna want any power.

By the way, He's not gonna just take Jerry Jones making all these comments in the media, the way McCarthy's doing it.

Dion's gonna push back. He's not gonna just take it. Is he deon Sanders interesting? You know I did an interview with him once.

Within three questions, he hung up the phone on me because I started asking, like, you know, interesting stuff, and.

He's like, I'm not talking about that.

Click Like he's not gonna take Jerry Jones blasting him and the team when they get run out of the building thirty to ten.

You know, Dion's gonna push back.

So maybe there is something there by the way Robert Salah to the Cowboys. Do you know what his record with the Jets is seventy four games under five hundred.

What are we doing?

Everybody's record of the Jets is poor. You go ask Sam Darnold, leave New York, beautiful things happen? Is that is selling what?

Hey? Donald loved New York.

I can do the same.

Uh.

Final story is the Packers early exit from the playoffs lost in Philly. We know Matt Lafleur wants Jordan Love to be more of a vocal leader, but GM Brian Gutakutzt wants there to be more urgency from the team going forward.

The thing that's that on my mind, I think as we concluded this season is we need we need to continue to ramp up our sense of urgency. We got a bunch of good, good guys in that locker room. Get a bunch of talented guys in that locker room, and yeah, I think it's time that we start competing for championships, right, And I think they're ready. I think, like I said, I think they are wired right. I think that group is is the kind of guys that can do that. But at the end of the day, you gotta go do it.

I don't even know what that means, Colin ramp up. Were they not urgent?

Well, I think there's a sense that Green Bay is slowly building and baking this young team, and he wants to create a sense of we're good enough to win, now, let's play better. They've been very and this is one of the strainths of Green Bay with their development of players. This has always been a core strength of the organization. Their patient, they draft, they developed, they sit people. And he's saying, okay, enough because Detroit's good, Minnesota's here in Chicago's getting good fast too if they get the right code.

Okay, But so is this about Jordan Love?

Is this?

Like?

Is this what this is?

Because he's the only reason they didn't have a great season? Right?

Well, no, I wouldn't say that.

What he didn't play great this year, Colin.

He I don't want to say he regressed, but he did not continue that upward trajectory we thought he had.

Well, he was not hurt, and Malik Willis won them games.

Like, yeah, I think it's fair to say that. I not that I've cooled on Jordan Love. I thought at the end of last year he would move into an elite top six in the league, and now I think he's top ten. I think he's like ten Jordan Love. Yeah, ten to eleven.

Yeah.

Okay, So he's not better than any of the eight quarterbacks in the in the playoffs down right?

Well, I think so that. I thought he was better than C. J. Stroud for sure, and Jalen Hurts.

Yeah.

I think he's better in the pocket than Jalen Hurts. He's much more athletic than C. J. Stroud.

Hold on, Jordan Love is better than c. J. Stroud right now, you think? And Jalen Hurts.

When C. J.

Stroud gets beat by twenty one points this weekend, that's not on stroud Man beat.

The Chiefs are favorites.

So Burrow also, Okay, brock Purty obviously better than Jordan Love.

We know that.

Wait, you're not agreeing with me on the No, no, no, I still I'm not selling my Joline Loves. Okay, alright, you don't have to have a quarterback ranking list in the off season. I don't think he's stopped ten right now, not based on this season, Colin.

Well, I do J mckle the news, Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Speaking of coaches. So the staff this morning gave me this. There's a pull out. Was this from the Dallas Morning News or something? They they they pulled Dallas Cowboy fans, it's pretty interesting. Do you approve of the way Jerry Jones handled the decision? It's from the Athletic and seventy eight percent of Dallas fans said no, we don't approve. And then the next question was the decision has me feeling like dot dot dot, and a fifty four percent said the franchise is lost and there's absolutely no reason for hope. Now that's a little bit dire, But you know, I don't know what would happen if Deon Sanders got hired. He was you know, he made a lot of headlines, but you know he was thirteen and twelve, and you know he was kind of like a five hundred college coach with a great quarterback and maybe the best player. So here's if you think Dion Sanders would work, here's a reason it could because we just don't know. Like Mike McDaniels, I thought it could work. I liked it. Mike McDaniel's Miami Today feel Finesse, Nick serianni Ah Guy's press conference too combative, immature. He's crushing Dan Campbell, Bill Parcells loved him. I think Parcells is brilliant, but I was like, I don't know, talking about Biten Kneecaps. He's crushing it. Doug Peterson totally chill. I thought he was perfect in Jacksonville. Doesn't work Shane Steichen in Indianapolis. I thought that was an absolute great hire. I'm reading stories about the locker room's a mess. So here's what the truth is about hiring a coach outside of Harbaugh. Andy Reid the Kansas City, Sean Payton, Vrabel to New England. Anytime Harbaugh's hired, there's stuff. We all know. Those are the lamps in our job. We know that's gonna work. But mostly it comes down to who's your quarterback. And if Dak Prescott is your quarterback, I think it's reasonable assume whoever gets the Dallas Cowboys job wins ten or eleven games. Again, we all knew Andy Reid the Kansas City that was gonna work. Rable to New England. Yeah, they're gonna be better than Jared Mayo New England. Harbaugh to the Chargers. I didn't know if they'd make the playoffs. But you know, we said on the air, that's ten eleven wins. He'll get it straight. But when we don't know, what we didn't know was Sean McVay. Was this Bears hire Marcus Freeman, you don't know. I think he could be magical. But if you look at Dak's career, Dak lendsay about ten games, and so if you start looking at who's gonna work and who's not gonna work, I mean, I bot about five hundred and most of my hits have been with Harbaugh of the Chargers, Peyton to the Broncos, Andy Reid, Kansas City, you know the oddvious stuff. I thought dan Quinn with Washington would work with Cliff Kingsbury. I thought that would be very very good. Plus they'd bought himed out, so it had to be better. But the reason you cowboy fans are in this, we'll never get solved. I don't think you're going to hoist a trophy with this roster for several years and what you're paying Dak. But I think unless they hire somebody I've never heard of, my guess is they'll be Okay, Fian'll be fine. They won't finish in fourth place. That I feel strongly about. If they hired Dion Sanders, they wouldn't finish in fourth Shady McCoy Top of the Hour, Blazing Four, Blazing Four, Top of Next Hour, including Ohio State, Notre Dame.

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This is the.

Opposite of the basketball culture in America, which I think is largely broken. It's all about, hey, just go for the money, whatever league international leave college. So what college football now is going to get is older, mature players, not only adding familiarity and stability. Think about this. Stuart Mandel covers college football. He had this tweet. In the last couple of days, seventy players have declared for the draft. That is half the number of six years ago. So college football is getting older, more mature, better players, staying longer, higher quality. Right, you watch college basketball, the best players are all like nineteen one and done boom. See him head off to a lousy team and they're anonymous sitting on the bench or of a rotational guy, or maybe they start for a really bad team, and you have no emotional connection to the players. And that's why I think the basketball culture in America part We were talking about this in the hallway this morning as we were walking to the show with Ryan the producer. I was saying, you know, you just don't have any connection to these college guys. SGA stays one year, two years at Kentucky, You're like, oh, that kid's interesting. Boom he's gone. And then he's part of the OKC rebuild and last night you know he's a great, great player, just a dominant score. But you don't have as much of a connection unless you're a die hard fan. And so this also, I think what's happening in college football helps the NFL general managers because now I get more tape on players in a different environment. You know, this is why the COVID quarterback class was so awful. I mean, he had very little tape on Zach Wilson. His pro day was what people were falling in love with Trey Lance. He had three pieces of fuzzy video. But now with guys staying in school a year longer, a more great players staying in college football. That helps the opposite of college basketball, and it gives NFL general managers more video and film and reps to work with. I mean and a prime example of why college football is so much more popular than college basketball. College basketball now is all about the tournament. Go look at the draft last year, the NFL Draft and the college basketball draft.

Now.

J Mack is one of the seven people on earth that knew every one of these basketball players coming out of Lithuania. But if you look at if you look at the NFL Draft, it was when we watched Caleb Williams at high profile USC. Now, I saw Jaden Daniel's number two pick at Arizona State. Most of you saw him at LSU. Drake may was at Carolina. We didn't see a ton of him, But Marvin Harrison Ohio State, Joe Alt Notre Dame, Molite neighbors LSU, Michael Pennock's Washington, Roma, Dunzay, those teams were in big national TV games. JJ McCarthy Michigan, Bo Nicks at Oregon, and the offensive tackle from Penn State. So I'm watching those guys for years and years. I'm familiar with them. So the college football is now getting more of this, more of these players in the blue on the left. Sorry, radio audience, college basketball and basketball's culture does a diss service. I had Adam Silver on NBA Commission this week and I said that, I said, why do you guys marginalize college basketball? That's how I learned who Zion Williamson is or Cooper Flagg at Duke if he goes to the G League. I don't know who he is. I have no connection to him. So I think college football this is really good news for college football that you will find every year going forward there'll be twenty quarterbacks or left tackles, or edge rushers or star receivers that are making more than fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round NFL players. Now, I could argue, because it's football and there's a regulated level of violence, you're better to go pro get your pension started. That's certainly an argument. But you know, try telling a twenty two year old kid, if somebody's gonna offer him two million dollars or he's gonna make three hundred and seventy five thousand in the pros, stay in college. I mean, I'm watching that story on Carson Beck. He's got a cute girlfriend. He's making ten million dollars, there's no state tax, He's going to the U. That sounds fun to me. I had to put chains on my car in college it was cold and snowy, and his college career sounds really fun. Would you rather be the backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns making seven hundred thousand a year or making ten million dollars at the U on that campus? You tell me. And by the way, I don't think Carson Beck is a wildly great prospect in the pros. I mean I look at some of these quarterbacks and I'm like, why would I go pro? I'd rather stay at Texas, Miami, Michigan, Ohio State. You understand what these quarterbacks are making in college now, They're making like five, six, seven, eight million dollars. And these programs, these big en programs, if you go look at how they feed the players, how they treat the players, the facilities that are being constantly upgraded for players. That's a way better life than getting your head beat in or holding the clipboard in the NFL. I mean, Johnny Manziel was a rock star at Texas, A and M. He didn't buy a meal down there, Vince Young, same at Texas. So in last Now, it's different if you're going to be a top five or six pick, if you're as good as Jaden or JJ McCarthy, if your first round pick. But let's be honest, there's like four of those guys maybe a year in college football. Four there's about seven eight other guys stay in college and I think it helps the sport. You think I'm crazy on this, j Mac ten million dollars to play college football.

Well, you make it sound like being the backup of the Cleveland Browns is the worst thing in the world.

Seven hundred thousand. They're making more than that.

A backup that was a six round pick.

Well, if it's a six round pick, he might not be the backup, I mean, might be on the practice squad. But yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. Plus, Carson Beck has like a famous girlfriend. She's some one of these TikTok influencers.

She goes to Miami.

I'm getting banned Friday next Sunday.

Yeah, her careers out.

But yeah, so he wants to like be around her. Miami's not a bad place to be. It's where I had my bachelor party.

Yeah, you know that.

It's an amazing city, of course, Yeah, I did toss that in there, But yeah, like, do you want to go to Jacksonville and be the backup to Trevor Lawrence.

I'm not saying if you're Joe Burrow or Herbert or two of j pro but I think I think this is a big advantage for college football quality quarterback play.

But you know, the window for NFL is much smaller than NBA. Like Lebron's playing at forty he is an outlier, but Curry Durant, all these guys are in their mid thirties, mid thirties, You're definitely out of the NFL.

You're trying to get the television.

You know, NFL your career is probably over unless you're like an offensive lineman like thirty three. Ish quarterbacks last a little longer, right, I think your NBA career can be stretched out.

One of the reasons we had Adam silver on on is to ask him about some of the problems with the NBA. Now, the NBA makes a lot of money, it gets a lot of people that love it, the quality of the athletes better, the international game is great, So there's a lot of things going on right with it, But one of the issues with it is this lack of recognizable domestic and international players. And that's why March madness. You see Zach Edy, right, you that you don't watch Big ten basketball. You see Zach Edy as an underclassman and you're like, oh, that's cool. The fact that Zach Edy came back to college basketball with Purdue and they were a very good team. Well, I was into the Zach Edy. So every coach I'd bring on, I'd bring on Jay Ryd or Mark Fielm. Like, what do you make of as Zach Edy guy? I asked the every time I brought a college coach on. So I got into Zach Edy. Well, now I'm going to watch him in the NBA. Even if he's done a great player, he's really good.

Yeah.

So I just think of all the issues we got into this discussion this morning, of all the issues with the NBA, to me, that it's not three pointers, although I think that needs to be tweaked. The number one issue. And I've always said this about politics. Before Barack Obama arrived, the Democratic Party was really was going through a tough time. They felt rudderless and then they found their rockstar. And by the way, the Conservatives were a little bit rudderless. Then they found Trump. However, many years ago, is that it's amazing if you get the right coach in football, it solves a lot of issues. If you get the right quarterback in the NFL, solves a lot of issues. And so in the NBA they could solve all their We wouldn't talk nearly as much about the problems with the NBA. Let's just say Cooper Flag from Duke stays Win's and nat and goes on to average twenty seven as a rookie he might and ends up going to a team and all of a sudden, that team makes two or three trades and you're like, oh, we got a domestic star, and he's a good looking guy and he's feisty. The NBA's a lot of times in life your problems can be solved by just hiring, drafting, finding a rock star. I was just talking to somebody about just talking to somebody last night about Starbucks had a rough year last year, the stock and they got rid of their CEO and they went to Chipotle and hired that CEO. And the story is he is fantastic, and they had all these problems and blah blah blah, and now nobody's talking about it. So sometimes problems can be solved by one or two agents, one or two platforms, or so. I just think my take is the primary issue is we just know who these college football kids are, and now they're gonna stay longer the star quarterback.

The one argument for basketball is, you know, these high school kids have such great highlight reels that we knew about Zion Williamson when he was like tenth grade. You we get many football players in ten No, no, no, no, But like right now, there's a kid in high school basketball who is utterly dominant, Gilbert Arenas's son.

He is everywhere.

He probably has more Instagram followers than ninety percent of the NFL.

This kid is skyrocketing. To start him, He's gonna be huge. He's going to only be one and done in college. Maybe he goes straight to the pros.

I don't know, but.

The NBA culturally, like online, that social discussion, the NBA in basketball dominates. I don't know any high school football players right now, do you know, do you know many of them?

There's a lot on the basketball I've been following off for twenty years.

I know all of them. Okay, fine, wrong guyed ass, but I do think it's a little overblown.

I think we need more domestic stars in pro basketball that would be let me tell you something. Look at the NBA pre Magic and Bird. It was pretty rocky.

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