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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boo mod Up America. Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. This is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be making a part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb and we can all get together and re get ready for the NCAA Tournament. It's a weird one for me. Some of you may know I'm actually a head basketball coach at Green Bay. What you may not know is this is the first NCAA tournament in twenty three years. And then I'm not covering for I was ESPN for nine. I was worked there for ten but nine covering the tournament, and then CBS for five and then since then the last seven years it was Fox but also Westwood One. You know I was at CBS's selection Sunday Final four, et cetera. And calling games the first weekend, and uh, you know, I've been west with Westwood one as their studio host and going all the way to the Final four and now again none to do except talk to you. So I'm gonna bore the hell out. No, I'm kidding, We're gonna break down your back. It's tell you about the twelve five upsets.

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boo mod Up America. Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. This is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be making a part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb and we can all get together and re get ready for the NCAA Tournament. It's a weird one for me. Some of you may know I'm actually a head basketball coach at Green Bay. What you may not know is this is the first NCAA tournament in twenty three years. And then I'm not covering for I was ESPN for nine. I was worked there for ten but nine covering the tournament, and then CBS for five and then since then the last seven years it was Fox but also Westwood One. You know I was at CBS's selection Sunday Final four, et cetera. And calling games the first weekend, and uh, you know, I've been west with Westwood one as their studio host and going all the way to the Final four and now again none to do except talk to you. So I'm gonna bore the hell out. No, I'm kidding, We're gonna break down your back. It's tell you about the twelve five upsets.

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I just it's interesting, and you know I as a kid, I watched it. My dad got me out of school, right, whether it was Jordan Elementary, Levita Elementary. Wait, there's more, McPherson middle School, Junior High School, Santiago Middle School, you'reba middle school, that's right, three middle schools, and then Tustin High School. My dad would come get me out of school and we'd go down to we go down to a sports bar in Costa Mesa and watch all the games. I think one time we went to Silky Sullivan's that that was in Fountain Valley. I don't know if that still exists anyway from there, and we would go to the final four. And then even when I played Notre Dame and we were bad my first year, we still went to the final four. That was it. In East Rutherford, New Jersey. My year at Golden West College where I didn't play, where I technically red shirted, I watched my childhood best friend Miles Simon went a national championship in Indianapolis, and then played in it three times at Oklahoma State, and then covered it really after I got done playing overseas, you know, in two years where was overseas during the tournament, actually three when I was overseas during the tournament. And since then I've been back in and I will tell you more motivated than ever to have the full circle right. Watched it, loved it, played in it, covered it TV and radio, on the floor of the final four in the national championship game, and now I want to coach in it, but it can't. We weren't good enough and we got to build it and build it right. So you're stuck with me. But what I do think is fascinating is how how much has changed in the landscape of the sport. Some of it still remains the same. They're still the Cinderella stories. And when we think of stories of our past, it's interesting there's some of the greatest games or potential upsets or whatever weren't actually upsets, didn't actually happen, like Princeton Georgetown. Georgetown still won the game. Georgetown won the game. And then of course we started to see more and more upsets throughout our childhood into our adulthood, and what I thought would never happen, I truly believed in covering it. You would never see a sixteen be to one. And the logic behind it was this. When they started the field of sixty four, there were like, I don't think there were two hundred Division one teams. Now there are three hundred and sixty four. Three hundred and sixty four. So if the top are the top four, and they used to be competing against two hundred to twenty five to thirty and now they're competing against three hundred, one would think the disparity was even greater. But as luck would have it, an injury happened with DeAndrea Hunter at Virginia and an upset of all upsets took place with UNBC and then I thought, well, we'll never have that again.

I just it's interesting, and you know I as a kid, I watched it. My dad got me out of school, right, whether it was Jordan Elementary, Levita Elementary. Wait, there's more, McPherson middle School, Junior High School, Santiago Middle School, you'reba middle school, that's right, three middle schools, and then Tustin High School. My dad would come get me out of school and we'd go down to we go down to a sports bar in Costa Mesa and watch all the games. I think one time we went to Silky Sullivan's that that was in Fountain Valley. I don't know if that still exists anyway from there, and we would go to the final four. And then even when I played Notre Dame and we were bad my first year, we still went to the final four. That was it. In East Rutherford, New Jersey. My year at Golden West College where I didn't play, where I technically red shirted, I watched my childhood best friend Miles Simon went a national championship in Indianapolis, and then played in it three times at Oklahoma State, and then covered it really after I got done playing overseas, you know, in two years where was overseas during the tournament, actually three when I was overseas during the tournament. And since then I've been back in and I will tell you more motivated than ever to have the full circle right. Watched it, loved it, played in it, covered it TV and radio, on the floor of the final four in the national championship game, and now I want to coach in it, but it can't. We weren't good enough and we got to build it and build it right. So you're stuck with me. But what I do think is fascinating is how how much has changed in the landscape of the sport. Some of it still remains the same. They're still the Cinderella stories. And when we think of stories of our past, it's interesting there's some of the greatest games or potential upsets or whatever weren't actually upsets, didn't actually happen, like Princeton Georgetown. Georgetown still won the game. Georgetown won the game. And then of course we started to see more and more upsets throughout our childhood into our adulthood, and what I thought would never happen, I truly believed in covering it. You would never see a sixteen be to one. And the logic behind it was this. When they started the field of sixty four, there were like, I don't think there were two hundred Division one teams. Now there are three hundred and sixty four. Three hundred and sixty four. So if the top are the top four, and they used to be competing against two hundred to twenty five to thirty and now they're competing against three hundred, one would think the disparity was even greater. But as luck would have it, an injury happened with DeAndrea Hunter at Virginia and an upset of all upsets took place with UNBC and then I thought, well, we'll never have that again.

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Amateurism is gone. I don't want to call this professional basketball because though I get paid a salary to coach my team, to run my program, uh, to make sure my kids go to class, you know, graduate are academically ineligible, stay out of trouble, run practice, manage a whole basketball program. And look, college basketball players do receive compensation above that of a scholarship, above that of a grant aid. Let's kid, Let's not kid ourselves. This is not professional, right. If it was professional, you wouldn't believe the stories that take place don't happen in a professional world. You also don't get a chance to just leave one job with a contract and not have a buyout and not have a non compete clause going from job to job to job to job to job. So it's a mix of what we used to have, mix in education which does get pushed to the wayside by so many people. And then you kind of more professional basketball and AAU basketball and there you go. But here's what I wish would happen. It's not going to happen. But like Wafford takes on Tennessee, Wafford takes on Tennessee, and there's some unique things that college basketball people know that I'm going to teach you here before the games tip off. I had a college basketball coach before I took the job. Tell me, like, hey, ever, notice handshake lines are a lot longer than they used to be. Well, what's that mean?

Amateurism is gone. I don't want to call this professional basketball because though I get paid a salary to coach my team, to run my program, uh, to make sure my kids go to class, you know, graduate are academically ineligible, stay out of trouble, run practice, manage a whole basketball program. And look, college basketball players do receive compensation above that of a scholarship, above that of a grant aid. Let's kid, Let's not kid ourselves. This is not professional, right. If it was professional, you wouldn't believe the stories that take place don't happen in a professional world. You also don't get a chance to just leave one job with a contract and not have a buyout and not have a non compete clause going from job to job to job to job to job. So it's a mix of what we used to have, mix in education which does get pushed to the wayside by so many people. And then you kind of more professional basketball and AAU basketball and there you go. But here's what I wish would happen. It's not going to happen. But like Wafford takes on Tennessee, Wafford takes on Tennessee, and there's some unique things that college basketball people know that I'm going to teach you here before the games tip off. I had a college basketball coach before I took the job. Tell me, like, hey, ever, notice handshake lines are a lot longer than they used to be. Well, what's that mean?

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You know when Omaha takes on Saint John's and Omaha's best player goes for twenty five and ten and they lose and he shakes hands with Rick Patino or one of the assistant coaches, they go, set your mom over there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, mom, how are you How are you right? It doesn't mean there's poaching actually taking place, but it doesn't mean that it's not taking place right Like literally mid major teams playing against high major teams. It's an active tryout. I kid you not. But what I'd love to have happen is when Wafford takes on Tennessee, them to flash up the sum total of these salaries of the players of each team. That would be amazing. Tennessee's coach by Rick Barnes. He's a friend. I think Rick's a great dude. Were he coached at Texas when I was in college and I had heard he was a great dude, and he's even better than that. I do expect them to win this game. And Wofford has a big guy who shoots the ball underhanded, which if you watch me play in college, people did encourage me to try. So I'm always fascinated by it. But what I would love is if it comes down the stretch and they're under four minutes and say Spirodidas is calling the game Tennessee with a four point two million dollars payroll, take it on Wafford with one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars payroll. It would make you it. You want to talk about David and Goliath, that's what you have. It's like equal punishments, right, if you're bad, it's hard to raise money to get players to get good. And even on bad teams, guys that go and put up their numbers, well, they go and they want to go somewhere else and fool somewhere else and go get and go get paid. And if you're good at the mid major level, you're gonna lose all your players because people are like, man, they're good, let's take them that's how it actually works. Nonetheless, we still have a bracket and now the actual bracket games begin. But I do think that, and I said this on my show, and I said it just you know, I believe in congruent arguments. I thought the mistake of the College Football Playoff Committee was balanced out by the NCAA Basketball Committee. What do I mean by that? It doesn't mean that every team that spent money is better than teams that don't spend money. Doesn't mean that, But the SEC has spent a whole hell of a lot more money than everybody else. And it's not just with the players, with the facilities, with the support staff, with the head coaches. It's all of it, all of it. And so it's not just about your specific team, but their path to success and their path to a record. Right. The flaw in the argument for SMU, which spent a bunch of money to get into the ACC and then to field their team, or Indiana that spent a ton of money and had a solvet schedule but beat up on the Big Ten is not to say, hey, well we spent money and look, you know we got this huge payroll. You know, Indiana was like a fifteen million dollar payroll, which was a big, big amount. The difference is in the SEC and both football and basketball. Every team you play, every team you play in basketball has a two to four five million dollar payroll, whereas when you're in the ACC, for example, they have teams with three and four million dollar payrolls, but they have teams that are about a million and there is there's just a difference. And when you have when you have a payroll that's a million dollars or whatever, and you go all in on one or two players and all of a sudden, one of those guys gets hurt, or one of those guys isn't as good as the billing, or maybe hasn't been able to level up to the ACC. Now, all of a sudden, you don't have the depth to contend on a daily basis in your conference, even though you're better than most of the other teams, because again you have a million dollar payroll. But making sense, so, I look, I still love the tournament. I grew up watching it. I can quote chapter and verse all of the different upsets. The moment that changed my existence as a basketball player wanted to do. It happened about thirty minutes or I'm broadcasting from Doug Gottliebin for Colin. This is heard on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We're broadcasting from Sherman Oaks, California, at Long Beach, Aarina, where my dad for three years was an assistant coach under the great Tech Winner at Long Beach Charina in was it nineteen ninety he was nineteen ninety, might have been ninety one. The first game after Hank Gathers had passed away, loy La Marrimount took on New Mexico State, and I'll never forget it. You know, I'd watched the semi finals when Hank went down. I had known both of those guys from a the Pump basketball camp where I was a camper, and those guys played pickup ball at Sea Sun cal State Northridge, where we stayed at night, and they were godlike figures. And when Hank died, just it was soul crushing to somebody who idolized him and thought, I mean, he'd looked like a Greek god. I watched them play, and they came out in there and everything was adorned in maroon uniforms with forty four's everywhere and when I saw Bo Kimball dribble three times with his right hand and switch it and shoot to his left hand, took hop his fallen friend and teammate, who kind of like the kid from Wafford, switched to shooting free throws left handed because he was so bad at shooting them right handed. And then he made the free throw and there wasn't a dry eye in the place. I was like, this is what I want to do. I want to play in it, I want to cover it. I want to coach it so that emotion still exists. But let's not kid ourselves. We're in a weird place where like literally Tennessee has forty would I would I would guess at minimum thirty times greater salaries than that of Wafford tonight thirty times. I'll check my math during the break, That's what I'll do. But I think I got that right. I may have over exaggerated, but I think I got it right.

You know when Omaha takes on Saint John's and Omaha's best player goes for twenty five and ten and they lose and he shakes hands with Rick Patino or one of the assistant coaches, they go, set your mom over there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, mom, how are you How are you right? It doesn't mean there's poaching actually taking place, but it doesn't mean that it's not taking place right Like literally mid major teams playing against high major teams. It's an active tryout. I kid you not. But what I'd love to have happen is when Wafford takes on Tennessee, them to flash up the sum total of these salaries of the players of each team. That would be amazing. Tennessee's coach by Rick Barnes. He's a friend. I think Rick's a great dude. Were he coached at Texas when I was in college and I had heard he was a great dude, and he's even better than that. I do expect them to win this game. And Wofford has a big guy who shoots the ball underhanded, which if you watch me play in college, people did encourage me to try. So I'm always fascinated by it. But what I would love is if it comes down the stretch and they're under four minutes and say Spirodidas is calling the game Tennessee with a four point two million dollars payroll, take it on Wafford with one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars payroll. It would make you it. You want to talk about David and Goliath, that's what you have. It's like equal punishments, right, if you're bad, it's hard to raise money to get players to get good. And even on bad teams, guys that go and put up their numbers, well, they go and they want to go somewhere else and fool somewhere else and go get and go get paid. And if you're good at the mid major level, you're gonna lose all your players because people are like, man, they're good, let's take them that's how it actually works. Nonetheless, we still have a bracket and now the actual bracket games begin. But I do think that, and I said this on my show, and I said it just you know, I believe in congruent arguments. I thought the mistake of the College Football Playoff Committee was balanced out by the NCAA Basketball Committee. What do I mean by that? It doesn't mean that every team that spent money is better than teams that don't spend money. Doesn't mean that, But the SEC has spent a whole hell of a lot more money than everybody else. And it's not just with the players, with the facilities, with the support staff, with the head coaches. It's all of it, all of it. And so it's not just about your specific team, but their path to success and their path to a record. Right. The flaw in the argument for SMU, which spent a bunch of money to get into the ACC and then to field their team, or Indiana that spent a ton of money and had a solvet schedule but beat up on the Big Ten is not to say, hey, well we spent money and look, you know we got this huge payroll. You know, Indiana was like a fifteen million dollar payroll, which was a big, big amount. The difference is in the SEC and both football and basketball. Every team you play, every team you play in basketball has a two to four five million dollar payroll, whereas when you're in the ACC, for example, they have teams with three and four million dollar payrolls, but they have teams that are about a million and there is there's just a difference. And when you have when you have a payroll that's a million dollars or whatever, and you go all in on one or two players and all of a sudden, one of those guys gets hurt, or one of those guys isn't as good as the billing, or maybe hasn't been able to level up to the ACC. Now, all of a sudden, you don't have the depth to contend on a daily basis in your conference, even though you're better than most of the other teams, because again you have a million dollar payroll. But making sense, so, I look, I still love the tournament. I grew up watching it. I can quote chapter and verse all of the different upsets. The moment that changed my existence as a basketball player wanted to do. It happened about thirty minutes or I'm broadcasting from Doug Gottliebin for Colin. This is heard on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We're broadcasting from Sherman Oaks, California, at Long Beach, Aarina, where my dad for three years was an assistant coach under the great Tech Winner at Long Beach Charina in was it nineteen ninety he was nineteen ninety, might have been ninety one. The first game after Hank Gathers had passed away, loy La Marrimount took on New Mexico State, and I'll never forget it. You know, I'd watched the semi finals when Hank went down. I had known both of those guys from a the Pump basketball camp where I was a camper, and those guys played pickup ball at Sea Sun cal State Northridge, where we stayed at night, and they were godlike figures. And when Hank died, just it was soul crushing to somebody who idolized him and thought, I mean, he'd looked like a Greek god. I watched them play, and they came out in there and everything was adorned in maroon uniforms with forty four's everywhere and when I saw Bo Kimball dribble three times with his right hand and switch it and shoot to his left hand, took hop his fallen friend and teammate, who kind of like the kid from Wafford, switched to shooting free throws left handed because he was so bad at shooting them right handed. And then he made the free throw and there wasn't a dry eye in the place. I was like, this is what I want to do. I want to play in it, I want to cover it. I want to coach it so that emotion still exists. But let's not kid ourselves. We're in a weird place where like literally Tennessee has forty would I would I would guess at minimum thirty times greater salaries than that of Wafford tonight thirty times. I'll check my math during the break, That's what I'll do. But I think I got that right. I may have over exaggerated, but I think I got it right.

Right.

Right.

If you're somewhere like four million dollars and they're somewhere in the you know, one hundred and fifty, he eat at two hundred, what is that ratio? You guys work that out? Coming up next in the Herd. John Fanta is gonna join us if you if you love college basketball, John is everywhere. He does play by play, he does reporting, he does sideline. The madness is about to tip off. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him what's one upset he sees happening today? That's next. I'm Doug Gotlive. This is the Herd.

If you're somewhere like four million dollars and they're somewhere in the you know, one hundred and fifty, he eat at two hundred, what is that ratio? You guys work that out? Coming up next in the Herd. John Fanta is gonna join us if you if you love college basketball, John is everywhere. He does play by play, he does reporting, he does sideline. The madness is about to tip off. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him what's one upset he sees happening today? That's next. I'm Doug Gotlive. This is the Herd.

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How would you Doug Gottliebin for coming the Herd on Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Watching Creighton the Blue Jays take on louv You do know that it's Louisville, which is weird, right because when you go to Louisville, they say welcome to Louisville, but everything is the vill wouldn't be the vul if they pronounce it oovl. I'm very very confused. I don't know anyway. They're taking on Creighton. This is it's in Lexington. One of the things that people make a big deal of is where the game is played. Oh my gosh, home court advantage, Yeah, I mean last night, Xavier was playing in Dayton, which is forty five minutes from campus. A little bit different in terms of I thought that was a legitimate home court advantage in their comeback win over Texas. But playing again on your art travels home floor against Creighton, that travels well at Lake at noon. It's not that big. What do the kids say, It's not that deep. It's not that deep. By the way, I've been hanging out my son here for the last couple of days. I'm telling you my vernacular is getting way better, way way better. Nothing more hip than when your son's sixteen. Happy birthday to my son. Hey, scottlieb Let's welcome in. John Fanta Fox Sports Radio, a Fox Sports college basketball reporter. He does by play. You'll see him on the field of sixty eight. If you follow college basketball, you know about that podcast, which also you can view online. UH and he joins us now as the NCAA tournament kicks off. Jentle, me let me ask you about last night. You know you covered the Big East a Ton for Fox and UH and Xavier had a huge comeback win against Texas. And there's there's several reports that Rodney Terry will be let go and additional reports that Sean Miller will be the next head coach of Texas. What what what have you heard in regards to the Texas situation?

How would you Doug Gottliebin for coming the Herd on Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Watching Creighton the Blue Jays take on louv You do know that it's Louisville, which is weird, right because when you go to Louisville, they say welcome to Louisville, but everything is the vill wouldn't be the vul if they pronounce it oovl. I'm very very confused. I don't know anyway. They're taking on Creighton. This is it's in Lexington. One of the things that people make a big deal of is where the game is played. Oh my gosh, home court advantage, Yeah, I mean last night, Xavier was playing in Dayton, which is forty five minutes from campus. A little bit different in terms of I thought that was a legitimate home court advantage in their comeback win over Texas. But playing again on your art travels home floor against Creighton, that travels well at Lake at noon. It's not that big. What do the kids say, It's not that deep. It's not that deep. By the way, I've been hanging out my son here for the last couple of days. I'm telling you my vernacular is getting way better, way way better. Nothing more hip than when your son's sixteen. Happy birthday to my son. Hey, scottlieb Let's welcome in. John Fanta Fox Sports Radio, a Fox Sports college basketball reporter. He does by play. You'll see him on the field of sixty eight. If you follow college basketball, you know about that podcast, which also you can view online. UH and he joins us now as the NCAA tournament kicks off. Jentle, me let me ask you about last night. You know you covered the Big East a Ton for Fox and UH and Xavier had a huge comeback win against Texas. And there's there's several reports that Rodney Terry will be let go and additional reports that Sean Miller will be the next head coach of Texas. What what what have you heard in regards to the Texas situation?

Well, what we know and doud great to be with you on what is a holiday is that is that Chris del Conzie was very interested in Sean Miller the last time he was trying to hire a head coach. But Texas beat Xavier in the Henca Turno, which was quite ironic in the sweet sixteen. So then you weren't going to to not keep Rodney Terry as head coach. Rodney had done his part to to keep that job and it felt like, you know, on the natural right move. But now there's an irony to these two paths crossing again. But Terry has not gotten Texas to a level that they believe they should be at, which I got to say, Doug, for the last fifteen years, Texas has been not achieving the level that they want to achieve in any sport because at Texas they aspire at a football school to win national championships and everything. Well, to me, that's a you problem Texas.

Well, what we know and doud great to be with you on what is a holiday is that is that Chris del Conzie was very interested in Sean Miller the last time he was trying to hire a head coach. But Texas beat Xavier in the Henca Turno, which was quite ironic in the sweet sixteen. So then you weren't going to to not keep Rodney Terry as head coach. Rodney had done his part to to keep that job and it felt like, you know, on the natural right move. But now there's an irony to these two paths crossing again. But Terry has not gotten Texas to a level that they believe they should be at, which I got to say, Doug, for the last fifteen years, Texas has been not achieving the level that they want to achieve in any sport because at Texas they aspire at a football school to win national championships and everything. Well, to me, that's a you problem Texas.

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You keep selecting these head coaches, some of which are have been good. Honestly. Now, the Chris Beer thing ended the way that it did for off the court reasons. But like you know, Shaka Smart's found a proper home for himself in Marquette. There's a larger picture discussion. The point is, yes, Chris doug Conte, if this search opens up, which I think it will, Sean Miller's number one on his list. Then it comes down to Sewan making a decision. You know, he built a house in Cincinnati, so you know, as you know, to build a house, you could sell it and you take the Texas job and you get a ton of nil. And if if that's what you want, and if that's what you're looking to do in your in your career and go to the Southeastern Conference, then that's that's what he's going to get. And he's one of the best. He's one of the better coaches in the sports. I'd say he's a top fifteen coach in college top fifteen to twenty coach at college basketball. Uh if not, you know, cop ten to twelve. He's that good. You know, we'll see, we'll see if if Xavier giving him a chance and a new lease on life, if that plays a part at all. It's not that the Musketeers don't have money. They'll put up a lot of money to try to keep them. They just don't have Texas money.

You keep selecting these head coaches, some of which are have been good. Honestly. Now, the Chris Beer thing ended the way that it did for off the court reasons. But like you know, Shaka Smart's found a proper home for himself in Marquette. There's a larger picture discussion. The point is, yes, Chris doug Conte, if this search opens up, which I think it will, Sean Miller's number one on his list. Then it comes down to Sewan making a decision. You know, he built a house in Cincinnati, so you know, as you know, to build a house, you could sell it and you take the Texas job and you get a ton of nil. And if if that's what you want, and if that's what you're looking to do in your in your career and go to the Southeastern Conference, then that's that's what he's going to get. And he's one of the best. He's one of the better coaches in the sports. I'd say he's a top fifteen coach in college top fifteen to twenty coach at college basketball. Uh if not, you know, cop ten to twelve. He's that good. You know, we'll see, we'll see if if Xavier giving him a chance and a new lease on life, if that plays a part at all. It's not that the Musketeers don't have money. They'll put up a lot of money to try to keep them. They just don't have Texas money.

Yeah. No, I mean it's interesting because little backstory John Fanton joining us here. I'm Doug Golibin for Collins the Herd. You go back to his fourth year at Xavier. Fourth year at Xavier, and uh, the Oklahoma State job was open, and uh, Mike Holder, the then ad at Oklahoma State, asked me to reach out to Sean or At first he asked me, like, who is hired? And I was like, man, I'd hire Sean Miller. So I called Sean and Sean said, at the time, hey, listen, Xavier gave me a chance when and this is the first time round. Xavier gave me a chance when nobody else would. So I'm going to stay here for five years. If you look at my contract, the buyout goes way down after my fifth year. That's I told them I would stay at least five years. And so there was definitely loyalty there. I know it's a business where so many people think there's no sort of loyalty, but Sean does have some and the fact that Sean got fired in Arizona and Xavier didn't think twice and brought him back. I think shows again their mutual loyalty.

Yeah. No, I mean it's interesting because little backstory John Fanton joining us here. I'm Doug Golibin for Collins the Herd. You go back to his fourth year at Xavier. Fourth year at Xavier, and uh, the Oklahoma State job was open, and uh, Mike Holder, the then ad at Oklahoma State, asked me to reach out to Sean or At first he asked me, like, who is hired? And I was like, man, I'd hire Sean Miller. So I called Sean and Sean said, at the time, hey, listen, Xavier gave me a chance when and this is the first time round. Xavier gave me a chance when nobody else would. So I'm going to stay here for five years. If you look at my contract, the buyout goes way down after my fifth year. That's I told them I would stay at least five years. And so there was definitely loyalty there. I know it's a business where so many people think there's no sort of loyalty, but Sean does have some and the fact that Sean got fired in Arizona and Xavier didn't think twice and brought him back. I think shows again their mutual loyalty.

But well, you know what else it has. Douga no strust, He's no streuss at Xavior none. You're never going to be under pressure. Like, yeah, they have standards, Yes, they want to make the Sweet sixteen. The program's never made a Final four. If he ever got close to that'd be you know, he already is a is a Xavier great for his multiple stints at the job. You go to Texas, Doug, you know what it is. You're gonna win, You're gonna you're gonna contend for Final four, You're gonna go deep in the tournament. You know, you go two years there and you haven't done that. Well, he answers year three. You know there's pressure on now there's Texas is an unrelenting pressure pack job. Uh, if you're at the football program, if you're at the basketball program. So if he wants that, then then they're gonna and they're gonna back up the Brins truck. And that's that's why you make the move. But you know, this is a guy who You're right, he is loyal. I know how much pride he has to like to be in the Big East and go to New York City for the for the conference tournament, and Doug, you know this, well, that's not just some other event like he he enjoys being a part of that whole equation and only he can think and fathom what he ultimately wants to do. So but there's no question he's at the top of Texas's list.

But well, you know what else it has. Douga no strust, He's no streuss at Xavior none. You're never going to be under pressure. Like, yeah, they have standards, Yes, they want to make the Sweet sixteen. The program's never made a Final four. If he ever got close to that'd be you know, he already is a is a Xavier great for his multiple stints at the job. You go to Texas, Doug, you know what it is. You're gonna win, You're gonna you're gonna contend for Final four, You're gonna go deep in the tournament. You know, you go two years there and you haven't done that. Well, he answers year three. You know there's pressure on now there's Texas is an unrelenting pressure pack job. Uh, if you're at the football program, if you're at the basketball program. So if he wants that, then then they're gonna and they're gonna back up the Brins truck. And that's that's why you make the move. But you know, this is a guy who You're right, he is loyal. I know how much pride he has to like to be in the Big East and go to New York City for the for the conference tournament, and Doug, you know this, well, that's not just some other event like he he enjoys being a part of that whole equation and only he can think and fathom what he ultimately wants to do. So but there's no question he's at the top of Texas's list.

Doug Gollivan for Collins to hurt Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app of course you have John Fanta joining us. He's a Fox Sports Radio kind of every Fox Sports kind of everything college basketball, right, just kind of immersed himself in it. Great play by play guy, and of course he does some college basketball reporting as well as work with Field of sixty eight. What did you think of of Gary Debrees? And he takes the Indiana job and during his press conference he was like, look, they were really respectful of my season, coming to you know, my season and wait until it concluded. So it feels like this would had been done for a bit. Did that surprise you in any way?

Doug Gollivan for Collins to hurt Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app of course you have John Fanta joining us. He's a Fox Sports Radio kind of every Fox Sports kind of everything college basketball, right, just kind of immersed himself in it. Great play by play guy, and of course he does some college basketball reporting as well as work with Field of sixty eight. What did you think of of Gary Debrees? And he takes the Indiana job and during his press conference he was like, look, they were really respectful of my season, coming to you know, my season and wait until it concluded. So it feels like this would had been done for a bit. Did that surprise you in any way?

It actually really surprised me because I can't tell you. How many times I've heard, you know, an agent say, well, there's something to be said about going two years or three years before you take.

It actually really surprised me because I can't tell you. How many times I've heard, you know, an agent say, well, there's something to be said about going two years or three years before you take.

Next next job.

Next next job.

Now, Indiana is an exception, right, it's not to me in twenty twenty five. You know you've had to achieve major success in the last decade of fifteen years. I don't put Indiana in blue blood Tier A. I really do not. What not tier A?

Now, Indiana is an exception, right, it's not to me in twenty twenty five. You know you've had to achieve major success in the last decade of fifteen years. I don't put Indiana in blue blood Tier A. I really do not. What not tier A?

Come on, bro, no man, Well, hold on, fantastic. Here, here's here's your issue. Here's your issue. Well on, here's your issue, John, here's your issue. Okay, you're kind of timeless, so people will be surprised. How old are you?

Come on, bro, no man, Well, hold on, fantastic. Here, here's here's your issue. Here's your issue. Well on, here's your issue, John, here's your issue. Okay, you're kind of timeless, so people will be surprised. How old are you?

I'm twenty nine. That's why Duke No, it's Duke Kansas, Kentucky, Carolina or in Tierra Indiana is not in the same class.

I'm twenty nine. That's why Duke No, it's Duke Kansas, Kentucky, Carolina or in Tierra Indiana is not in the same class.

Well again, so you're talking the super high major elite. Most people would put UCLA in that. Some people think not right, I mean, because they have more titles than anybody else.

Well again, so you're talking the super high major elite. Most people would put UCLA in that. Some people think not right, I mean, because they have more titles than anybody else.

If you want to put Tier B, that's that's fine. But like if we're teering this.

If you want to put Tier B, that's that's fine. But like if we're teering this.

The different the difference is, if you like, listen again, I'm becoming an old man, right, I'm becoming old man. I am not yet. There's not a five next to my name just yet. Soon but not yet. But uh, when I mean it's Indiana, I mean it is. It is still India. It's you know what it is. It's Alabama football before they got Saban, Alabama football before they got Saban. And there will be a guy that will wake that place up. And whoever that guy is, if it's Darian like great, uh, but somebody will wake that place up anyway, go ahead, I apologize. I apologize because I've heard that sentiment from other people.

The different the difference is, if you like, listen again, I'm becoming an old man, right, I'm becoming old man. I am not yet. There's not a five next to my name just yet. Soon but not yet. But uh, when I mean it's Indiana, I mean it is. It is still India. It's you know what it is. It's Alabama football before they got Saban, Alabama football before they got Saban. And there will be a guy that will wake that place up. And whoever that guy is, if it's Darian like great, uh, but somebody will wake that place up anyway, go ahead, I apologize. I apologize because I've heard that sentiment from other people.

But go ahead, No, I hear you. When you've made two Final four since nineteen eighty seven, it's and the bar.

But go ahead, No, I hear you. When you've made two Final four since nineteen eighty seven, it's and the bar.

Yeah, I mean then we then we had to put you. We have to put Yukon in in any territory as well. Right like you're twenty, you didn't list Yukon. Yukon's won what five national titles, worked with three different coaches.

Yeah, I mean then we then we had to put you. We have to put Yukon in in any territory as well. Right like you're twenty, you didn't list Yukon. Yukon's won what five national titles, worked with three different coaches.

Connecticut is more so than Indiana. Connecticut would be in the packing order with what they have done with six and twenty five years is absolutely absurd. They're right, They're right there, They're ahead. If I were to okay, needless to say, I was surprised because you're in your first year on the job. I thought, you know, Darren was a really good hire for West Virginia.

Connecticut is more so than Indiana. Connecticut would be in the packing order with what they have done with six and twenty five years is absolutely absurd. They're right, They're right there, They're ahead. If I were to okay, needless to say, I was surprised because you're in your first year on the job. I thought, you know, Darren was a really good hire for West Virginia.

I love the hire.

I love the hire.

They're off to a really nice start. You know, there are people are jarred by this, and they frankly they should be. I mean, I don't blame Darren for taking this job because I think, like you said, if he gets it back, that that place is that fan base, that brand, how they move the needle on television speaks for itself. It's next level. But it did surprise me to hear just how transparent and how open it was that he had been engaging in conversations in his first year at another high major, big twelve job.

They're off to a really nice start. You know, there are people are jarred by this, and they frankly they should be. I mean, I don't blame Darren for taking this job because I think, like you said, if he gets it back, that that place is that fan base, that brand, how they move the needle on television speaks for itself. It's next level. But it did surprise me to hear just how transparent and how open it was that he had been engaging in conversations in his first year at another high major, big twelve job.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's nutty. It's really really nutty. It is who gets Iowa.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's nutty. It's really really nutty. It is who gets Iowa.

Well, you know, I I think Ben McCollum is it would be there is at the top of their list. I also think there's a chance Ben. I know Ben's got the roots and whatnot. I know he's obviously done a great job of Drake, but but I almost think not the flight Iowa here.

Well, you know, I I think Ben McCollum is it would be there is at the top of their list. I also think there's a chance Ben. I know Ben's got the roots and whatnot. I know he's obviously done a great job of Drake, but but I almost think not the flight Iowa here.

No, come on, man, you're from Iowa, Okay, and you're Obviously he's going to bring Ben starts with him, who's the star point guard. If you haven't seen him, he's fabulous. We played against them, He's awesome, right Like, No.

No, come on, man, you're from Iowa, Okay, and you're Obviously he's going to bring Ben starts with him, who's the star point guard. If you haven't seen him, he's fabulous. We played against them, He's awesome, right Like, No.

I think it makes I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides. It's gonna be him. My only point would be I think he's an absolute superstar and could get an even bigger jobs. It's a great win for Iowa. Oh well, I think it's a great win FORBAB. Like if I were if I were Villanova, I'd be calling Ben McCollum.

I think it makes I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides. It's gonna be him. My only point would be I think he's an absolute superstar and could get an even bigger jobs. It's a great win for Iowa. Oh well, I think it's a great win FORBAB. Like if I were if I were Villanova, I'd be calling Ben McCollum.

I don't think. I'm not sure it works there, but it's it's it is. What is what is going on with Villanova? There was so much talker Chris Collins. There are season's done Nova, season's done, But Chris Collins is not the head coach. So what's going on in Nova?

I don't think. I'm not sure it works there, but it's it's it is. What is what is going on with Villanova? There was so much talker Chris Collins. There are season's done Nova, season's done, But Chris Collins is not the head coach. So what's going on in Nova?

Well?

Well?

Porter Moser is the number one name right now. And obviously Porter took like all the Chicago to the final four, and you know now at Oklahoma he's got Connecticut tomorrow night, which is kind of an interesting backdrop considering he's going up against the big East school. But I Jay Wright is you know, he's still an active member of things that Villanova does. Of course he's going to be. And Eric Rodell, the new athletic director, comes over from Oregon, and Eric, you know, I think the way that they're looking at this is you can go one of two ways. You get somebody on the rise. But there's not a ton of those guys right now in the cycle on this crazy carousel. You also know, Doug the next two days, a coaching hero could be born. That's that's why the madness is so amazing. It could change somebody's life and front of our eyes. But I think that they're looking at a veteran like the Collins the Moser discourse. You know, the the name that was outside the box was if if Mick Cronin ever didn't pan out at UCLA. But I think Nick's going to be at UCLA. Some of the negativity of January and some of the discourse coming out of there was a little bit eye opening. But I don't think he's going anywhere. I think, you know, I think they're in a place where it's down to Moser. It's down. I mean, Collins is still in the race, I suppose, And don't sleep on Richard Patino you know, I think that Rick Rick is going to try his best if Ryan Odam's not at Virginia, which Ryan Odams is going to be at Virginia. My humble opinions, if he weren't at Virginia would have been a slam dunk for Villanova to hire him. Watch out for Richard.

Porter Moser is the number one name right now. And obviously Porter took like all the Chicago to the final four, and you know now at Oklahoma he's got Connecticut tomorrow night, which is kind of an interesting backdrop considering he's going up against the big East school. But I Jay Wright is you know, he's still an active member of things that Villanova does. Of course he's going to be. And Eric Rodell, the new athletic director, comes over from Oregon, and Eric, you know, I think the way that they're looking at this is you can go one of two ways. You get somebody on the rise. But there's not a ton of those guys right now in the cycle on this crazy carousel. You also know, Doug the next two days, a coaching hero could be born. That's that's why the madness is so amazing. It could change somebody's life and front of our eyes. But I think that they're looking at a veteran like the Collins the Moser discourse. You know, the the name that was outside the box was if if Mick Cronin ever didn't pan out at UCLA. But I think Nick's going to be at UCLA. Some of the negativity of January and some of the discourse coming out of there was a little bit eye opening. But I don't think he's going anywhere. I think, you know, I think they're in a place where it's down to Moser. It's down. I mean, Collins is still in the race, I suppose, And don't sleep on Richard Patino you know, I think that Rick Rick is going to try his best if Ryan Odam's not at Virginia, which Ryan Odams is going to be at Virginia. My humble opinions, if he weren't at Virginia would have been a slam dunk for Villanova to hire him. Watch out for Richard.

Yeah, you know. The one thing is, you know, if you're at the best job in the league, don't leave unless it's at the best job in the league, right Porter Moser would leave because they don't have the money at Oklahoma for basketball that everybody else does, whereas Nova does have the money. But for Richard Bertino, they have the most money in their league. And that's a very powerful, powerful feeling. John Fanton is our guest. I'm Doug Golighban for Collins. I heard Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. Okay, who's going down? All right? Everywhere you go? I know everybody wants an upset. Uh give me your upset. I got friends texting me all the time, like I need I need your upset picks. Like dude, I'm if it's a Horizon League or mid major, like I can tell you everything about them. I can tell you a lot about UC San Diego because we studied them a bunch. But who do you think is most likely to pull off the upset in the next two days.

Yeah, you know. The one thing is, you know, if you're at the best job in the league, don't leave unless it's at the best job in the league, right Porter Moser would leave because they don't have the money at Oklahoma for basketball that everybody else does, whereas Nova does have the money. But for Richard Bertino, they have the most money in their league. And that's a very powerful, powerful feeling. John Fanton is our guest. I'm Doug Golighban for Collins. I heard Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. Okay, who's going down? All right? Everywhere you go? I know everybody wants an upset. Uh give me your upset. I got friends texting me all the time, like I need I need your upset picks. Like dude, I'm if it's a Horizon League or mid major, like I can tell you everything about them. I can tell you a lot about UC San Diego because we studied them a bunch. But who do you think is most likely to pull off the upset in the next two days.

Well, I think that there's a guaranteed double to just seed winning in the South. In fact, I'll go with multiple double digit seats. I think you see San Diego will beat Michigan. I never trust the team coming off the Big Ten Tournament championship. There's a history of this. And then about to learn more about the player you already know, Ane Wha kh Jones kid averages twenty a game. He is a stud, but he goes beyond them, Doug. They've got Hayden Gray, who's an elite defender. You know, they get up in you defensively and really guard that. They're so balanced on the other end of the floor. And I just think Michigan's turnover problems. You see San Diego's at the top of the charts in turnover margin. I think it's a problem matchup there. I also really like James Jones and his Yale team. Again, you know they pulled it off last year over Auburn. I know A and M can muck it up and can really make it a battle. But I think that's going to be a game, and I think John Pulakidis, who is a stud for Yale, I think the Bulldogs are going to be in it. I have Carolina beating All miss that's not the trendy Cinderella upset, but I could see Lipscomb. Watch out for Lipscomb. They got a kid named Jacob Agna Savitch that's averaging over twenty per game. And if you look at the Bisons and the style that they play, I think it could give Iowa States some problems.

Well, I think that there's a guaranteed double to just seed winning in the South. In fact, I'll go with multiple double digit seats. I think you see San Diego will beat Michigan. I never trust the team coming off the Big Ten Tournament championship. There's a history of this. And then about to learn more about the player you already know, Ane Wha kh Jones kid averages twenty a game. He is a stud, but he goes beyond them, Doug. They've got Hayden Gray, who's an elite defender. You know, they get up in you defensively and really guard that. They're so balanced on the other end of the floor. And I just think Michigan's turnover problems. You see San Diego's at the top of the charts in turnover margin. I think it's a problem matchup there. I also really like James Jones and his Yale team. Again, you know they pulled it off last year over Auburn. I know A and M can muck it up and can really make it a battle. But I think that's going to be a game, and I think John Pulakidis, who is a stud for Yale, I think the Bulldogs are going to be in it. I have Carolina beating All miss that's not the trendy Cinderella upset, but I could see Lipscomb. Watch out for Lipscomb. They got a kid named Jacob Agna Savitch that's averaging over twenty per game. And if you look at the Bisons and the style that they play, I think it could give Iowa States some problems.

Gotta you have Iowa stayed. Also, I always State also does another point guard?

Gotta you have Iowa stayed. Also, I always State also does another point guard?

You know they don't, And that's the big reason why is that Lipscomb has a top seventy five offense. I always State doesn't have key Sean Gilbert. So you know that's something that I'm keeping an eye on. If Liberty were playing anyone other than Oregan, I would probably have taken Richie McKay's team, But I Doug. I respect Dana Altman way too much. I'm heading over to the arena after after we talked for Purdue and high Point, and I think Allan Huff could give Purdue a run for their money. This afternoon.

You know they don't, And that's the big reason why is that Lipscomb has a top seventy five offense. I always State doesn't have key Sean Gilbert. So you know that's something that I'm keeping an eye on. If Liberty were playing anyone other than Oregan, I would probably have taken Richie McKay's team, But I Doug. I respect Dana Altman way too much. I'm heading over to the arena after after we talked for Purdue and high Point, and I think Allan Huff could give Purdue a run for their money. This afternoon.

Yeah, and by the way, high Point, they don't have Purdue money, but they actually have a lot of a lot of money. And so it's a town to roster and Augna Savitch is from Sheboygan. So don't don't don't start me with Wisconsin kids that are somewhere else that everybody help My Donor's like, hey, why don't you have him? I wasn't there, I wasn't here. I can't recruit guys that I would five years ago. When I last three is when I wasn't here. Anyway, Fanta, I'll love catching up on radio. Can't wait to do it in person, hopefully at the final four. Thanks so much for being our guest.

Yeah, and by the way, high Point, they don't have Purdue money, but they actually have a lot of a lot of money. And so it's a town to roster and Augna Savitch is from Sheboygan. So don't don't don't start me with Wisconsin kids that are somewhere else that everybody help My Donor's like, hey, why don't you have him? I wasn't there, I wasn't here. I can't recruit guys that I would five years ago. When I last three is when I wasn't here. Anyway, Fanta, I'll love catching up on radio. Can't wait to do it in person, hopefully at the final four. Thanks so much for being our guest.

You know, Doug, I hope you're not tight up against the break zone, but I do want to say this to you. I respect the heck out of you for doing what you've done and taken the Green Bay job. And I also think it's really cool some of the things that you just did in year one, whether it be engaging with fans you know, your fan base, your community, and getting your kids to kind of see the bigger picture. I could tell that you're showing them the bigger picture. Of life, and I know it's hard to tell. And if I went on the sidelines, I don't even want to picture that because we wouldn't be any good.

You know, Doug, I hope you're not tight up against the break zone, but I do want to say this to you. I respect the heck out of you for doing what you've done and taken the Green Bay job. And I also think it's really cool some of the things that you just did in year one, whether it be engaging with fans you know, your fan base, your community, and getting your kids to kind of see the bigger picture. I could tell that you're showing them the bigger picture. Of life, and I know it's hard to tell. And if I went on the sidelines, I don't even want to picture that because we wouldn't be any good.

And so.

And so.

I'm rooting for you, man, and know that you've got a fan and me and I think a lot of us because we want to see this pan out. And I give you a lot of credit because I know it wasn't the easiest of your ones. But I could tell your kids never stopped compete, and that's what life's about.

I'm rooting for you, man, and know that you've got a fan and me and I think a lot of us because we want to see this pan out. And I give you a lot of credit because I know it wasn't the easiest of your ones. But I could tell your kids never stopped compete, and that's what life's about.

No, I appreciate it they did. They fought hard for us. And just just know November three, we're opening at Northwestern. I believe that'll be available either Big ten Network or FS one. Would love to have you on the call. You you can do it out with Revsen, you know, Revers right down the street, one of one of you. Two got a couple, got a couple of potential. We're we're talking with the Butler Bulldogs about playing in Hinkle. I alays want to coach Hinkle as well.

No, I appreciate it they did. They fought hard for us. And just just know November three, we're opening at Northwestern. I believe that'll be available either Big ten Network or FS one. Would love to have you on the call. You you can do it out with Revsen, you know, Revers right down the street, one of one of you. Two got a couple, got a couple of potential. We're we're talking with the Butler Bulldogs about playing in Hinkle. I alays want to coach Hinkle as well.

Boy, I'm just imagining Dave Revson and with boxing gloves that that kind of was funny to think about it exactly all right?

Boy, I'm just imagining Dave Revson and with boxing gloves that that kind of was funny to think about it exactly all right?

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It's the Heart. Doug Olivin for herd. NCAA tournament underway, the Blue Jays and the Cardinals, right, the Cardinals. I love the nickname thing. I love the nicknames. I'll be honest with you, what I don't know High Points nickname. I'm gonna have to find that one out there. They're pretty good. Uh, Creighton is beating Louisville twenty eight twenty one. That one I do have in my bracket. Pat Kelsey's done a great job. But I think that's kind of a lame nickname there from high Point No offense to the high Point Panthers. But you gotta have a better nickname than that, don't you. Panthers? What was Ti?

It's the Heart. Doug Olivin for herd. NCAA tournament underway, the Blue Jays and the Cardinals, right, the Cardinals. I love the nickname thing. I love the nicknames. I'll be honest with you, what I don't know High Points nickname. I'm gonna have to find that one out there. They're pretty good. Uh, Creighton is beating Louisville twenty eight twenty one. That one I do have in my bracket. Pat Kelsey's done a great job. But I think that's kind of a lame nickname there from high Point No offense to the high Point Panthers. But you gotta have a better nickname than that, don't you. Panthers? What was Ti?

Well?

Well?

All the Tiger's taken and Bulldogs right like, I'm just you're mailing it in if you go if you go Tigers, Panthers or Bulldogs any others Tigers, Panthers, Bulldogs, I think you're kind of mailing it in. In terms of nicknames, there's no list of new nicknames. Sectimicus, you know. Oh, hold on Tigers, Tigers. Oh it's gold jar Gold anyway, high Points up eight five on Purdue, I will say that. Like again, I think Alan huss who's it, does a fantastic job. He's another former Creton assistant. But a Purdue to lose again early, Like, yes, I don't. I know they got the National Championship game last year, but like, but it's hard anyway, Well, let's talk some Lakers. We got a little football news. Let's get to rhyme music with the news.

All the Tiger's taken and Bulldogs right like, I'm just you're mailing it in if you go if you go Tigers, Panthers or Bulldogs any others Tigers, Panthers, Bulldogs, I think you're kind of mailing it in. In terms of nicknames, there's no list of new nicknames. Sectimicus, you know. Oh, hold on Tigers, Tigers. Oh it's gold jar Gold anyway, high Points up eight five on Purdue, I will say that. Like again, I think Alan huss who's it, does a fantastic job. He's another former Creton assistant. But a Purdue to lose again early, Like, yes, I don't. I know they got the National Championship game last year, but like, but it's hard anyway, Well, let's talk some Lakers. We got a little football news. Let's get to rhyme music with the news.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.

Doug, good morning, Good to be here with you.

Doug, good morning, Good to be here with you.

As you pointed out high Point perdue early in the first half, tight one.

As you pointed out high Point perdue early in the first half, tight one.

Have you ever seen high Points campus?

Have you ever seen high Points campus?

I have not, to be honest, I'm not sure I know where high Point is.

I have not, to be honest, I'm not sure I know where high Point is.

High Points in North Carolina. It is nice, Okay, It's it's like a it's like a entry club.

High Points in North Carolina. It is nice, Okay, It's it's like a it's like a entry club.

Nice.

Nice.

No, I'm serious. Like Google, people will Google like what you can go to school there, like yeah, yeah, it's crazy crazy nice.

No, I'm serious. Like Google, people will Google like what you can go to school there, like yeah, yeah, it's crazy crazy nice.

Wow. And in the other game, we have Creighton Louisville.

Wow. And in the other game, we have Creighton Louisville.

I was there last year. I called the tournament champions IHP. They'd lost at home, so I called Longwood won it Longwood. Noother really nice campus.

I was there last year. I called the tournament champions IHP. They'd lost at home, so I called Longwood won it Longwood. Noother really nice campus.

But oh yeah, very nice, very nice.

But oh yeah, very nice, very nice.

I would is very long, long one. But high point is the campus is crazy nice.

I would is very long, long one. But high point is the campus is crazy nice.

Twenty eight twenty one, about seven minutes into the first half with nine seed Creyton taking on eight seed Louisville. All right, here we go. Let's turn our attention from college basketball. It's a pro basketball. We had some history in the NBA last night in the most unexpected way, maybe from the most unexpected place. Thirty four points in only nineteen minutes from Sandrew Mamu kaylash Bealey. That's right of the Spurs with your player comes off the bench, caught fire like nobody ever has in the history of the league. I will repeat that he scored thirty four points, going thirteen to fourteen from the field, seven to seven from three, and only played nineteen minutes. First player in league history to score thirty four points in under twenty minutes played.

Twenty eight twenty one, about seven minutes into the first half with nine seed Creyton taking on eight seed Louisville. All right, here we go. Let's turn our attention from college basketball. It's a pro basketball. We had some history in the NBA last night in the most unexpected way, maybe from the most unexpected place. Thirty four points in only nineteen minutes from Sandrew Mamu kaylash Bealey. That's right of the Spurs with your player comes off the bench, caught fire like nobody ever has in the history of the league. I will repeat that he scored thirty four points, going thirteen to fourteen from the field, seven to seven from three, and only played nineteen minutes. First player in league history to score thirty four points in under twenty minutes played.

That's a heater, Doug, that is a heater. Vinnie Johnson's somewhere sitting up going like, that's the real microwave. Instead of the microwave, he can be the the air fire. Yeah, seriously, the airfire. Wow, just a quick update. My airfire skills are amazing. Airfire skills are amazing, amazing, amazing. So what does that entail? I mean, I can make all the like fried chicken, fried the fish, whatever, but like against airfire, sits to oil. And then what I really do is there's a company Malot meets and I have like a freezer full of like you know, I'm a big hangar steak guy. Okay, I can take a frozen hangar steak salted up, put it in there eighteen minutes later, perfection. Huh interesting, I'm telling you, I'm I'm all. My team wasn't any good, but my air frier skills elite.

That's a heater, Doug, that is a heater. Vinnie Johnson's somewhere sitting up going like, that's the real microwave. Instead of the microwave, he can be the the air fire. Yeah, seriously, the airfire. Wow, just a quick update. My airfire skills are amazing. Airfire skills are amazing, amazing, amazing. So what does that entail? I mean, I can make all the like fried chicken, fried the fish, whatever, but like against airfire, sits to oil. And then what I really do is there's a company Malot meets and I have like a freezer full of like you know, I'm a big hangar steak guy. Okay, I can take a frozen hangar steak salted up, put it in there eighteen minutes later, perfection. Huh interesting, I'm telling you, I'm I'm all. My team wasn't any good, but my air frier skills elite.

If Okay, I'm gonna go back to the fried chicken. Now, are you just calling it fried chicken because you've put it in the air fryer or are we actually breading it? No?

If Okay, I'm gonna go back to the fried chicken. Now, are you just calling it fried chicken because you've put it in the air fryer or are we actually breading it? No?

You read it? Okay, yeah, you read it. Are does anyone on earth not like fried chicken?

You read it? Okay, yeah, you read it. Are does anyone on earth not like fried chicken?

I'm not sure it's possible. It's right.

I'm not sure it's possible. It's right.

The only thing you don't like about fried chicken is it's cooked in oil.

The only thing you don't like about fried chicken is it's cooked in oil.

I'm pretty sure the government puts you on a specific list if you say you don't like fried chicken, because there are some suspicious things.

I'm pretty sure the government puts you on a specific list if you say you don't like fried chicken, because there are some suspicious things.

Going on in correct. Okay, So as somebody who loves fried chicken, it used to make fried chicken. Then I was like, that's really not good for you, even when you try and do the olive oil, which you know when olive oil gets hot, wast your time. Anyway. Uh yeah, bread it up. You know, I got I have, I got the whole thing going, all right. I know how to do the whole mixture. Double dip that sucker. Throw in the air fry again, Crispy Brown. I mean the Colonel Sanders actually knocked on my doors like I smelled chicken. It was really good, like your recipe. I need it, all right, I'll buy it.

Going on in correct. Okay, So as somebody who loves fried chicken, it used to make fried chicken. Then I was like, that's really not good for you, even when you try and do the olive oil, which you know when olive oil gets hot, wast your time. Anyway. Uh yeah, bread it up. You know, I got I have, I got the whole thing going, all right. I know how to do the whole mixture. Double dip that sucker. Throw in the air fry again, Crispy Brown. I mean the Colonel Sanders actually knocked on my doors like I smelled chicken. It was really good, like your recipe. I need it, all right, I'll buy it.

I'll buy it.

I'll buy it.

First team, all air fire, first team, all airfire.

First team, all air fire, first team, all airfire.

Well done, well done, Doug, all right, sticking in the NBA here, big sale, that's right, the Boston Celtics. The Grossbeck family has sold the Boston Celtics at evaluation of six point one billion dollars.

Well done, well done, Doug, all right, sticking in the NBA here, big sale, that's right, the Boston Celtics. The Grossbeck family has sold the Boston Celtics at evaluation of six point one billion dollars.

That's right.

That's right.

The reigning NBA champs have been sold to Bill Chisholm, a managing partner of Symphony Technology Group, is buying the Boston Celtics.

The reigning NBA champs have been sold to Bill Chisholm, a managing partner of Symphony Technology Group, is buying the Boston Celtics.

So a tech guy bought it.

So a tech guy bought it.

Tech guy bought it.

Tech guy bought it.

Largest sale of a sport in North America, sports franchise in North America.

Largest sale of a sport in North America, sports franchise in North America.

Nerds continue to run the earth undefeated this point when imagining came home, Honey, I picked some of the store.

Nerds continue to run the earth undefeated this point when imagining came home, Honey, I picked some of the store.

Would you pick up Celtics NBA franchise?

Would you pick up Celtics NBA franchise?

How much? Six point one billion? What? Why? When we were kids? You're not that old, right, those of us who are old enough, like everything was be a doctor or a lawyer, right, Yeah, that's who makes the money. Now it's tech or finance. Definitely tech or finance. So the grossbeck didn't they buy it for like three hundred and something million?

How much? Six point one billion? What? Why? When we were kids? You're not that old, right, those of us who are old enough, like everything was be a doctor or a lawyer, right, Yeah, that's who makes the money. Now it's tech or finance. Definitely tech or finance. So the grossbeck didn't they buy it for like three hundred and something million?

Yeah, it's two thousand and two. Bought for three hundred and sixty million, sold it for six point one Yeah that's pretty good.

Yeah, it's two thousand and two. Bought for three hundred and sixty million, sold it for six point one Yeah that's pretty good.

That's not bad.

That's not bad.

Pretty good.

Pretty good.

ROI I like that.

ROI I like that.

Pretty good.

Pretty good.

ROI, I personally would feel pretty good about that if that were me. Uh, I think I think so?

ROI, I personally would feel pretty good about that if that were me. Uh, I think I think so?

All right?

All right?

You make a billion dollars, what do you do?

You make a billion dollars, what do you do?

Mm, buy an island? Probably just like that's what Larry Ellison did. He did.

Mm, buy an island? Probably just like that's what Larry Ellison did. He did.

He was just like about an island of Hawaii. Yeah, this is my an island. It was like he was like, oh, I'm gonna buy that little island. He bought one of the Hawaiian islands, right like per of that. I don't know, I don't know what the going heals LINI right.

He was just like about an island of Hawaii. Yeah, this is my an island. It was like he was like, oh, I'm gonna buy that little island. He bought one of the Hawaiian islands, right like per of that. I don't know, I don't know what the going heals LINI right.

Yes, I'm not sure what the going right an island is these days, but I think if I got a billion, I could probably figure out how to get one.

Yes, I'm not sure what the going right an island is these days, but I think if I got a billion, I could probably figure out how to get one.

Colin went like Colin went ranch, right, he went ranch, definitely, because when I think of Colin, I think ranch.

Colin went like Colin went ranch, right, he went ranch, definitely, because when I think of Colin, I think ranch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look I don't have I got nothing against a ranch, but I'm yeah, give me, give me the water, give me the ocean. I don't need I'll go I'll go pet a horse, but I don't need to like take care of them.

Look I don't have I got nothing against a ranch, but I'm yeah, give me, give me the water, give me the ocean. I don't need I'll go I'll go pet a horse, but I don't need to like take care of them.

It sounds like a lot of work.

It sounds like a lot of work.