The demise of HBO has been a popular topic amongst boxing fans for some time. James Andrew Miller, who is one of the oral historians of our time did a deep dive in his new book on HBO, including the rise and fall of boxing at HBO. Jim talks about how HBO got into the boxing business, and how ultimately HBO quietly got out of the business. Later, Regis Prograis, the former 140 pound champion stops by and gives his thoughts on why not a lot of fighters have been willing to step up and to fight him.