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They was tweaking. I mean I was tweaking on NBA All Star weekends. It's just.
You know, people not real much, not real thrilled with you.
Yeah, the current format or whatever this this format was.
This past weekend.
You had a dunk contest featuring a guy who's played you know, fourteen seconds in the NBA Win it again. You had whatever, this rinky dink circus tent pop up event that was supposed to be the All Star Game show back up, and people are not happy about it and are not thrilled with the content and the viewing experience.
That they got bar over the All Star weekend.
I mean I was thrilled because I didn't have an experience because I didn't view it.
Dan, If you want me to break down who had the best dunk of the night on Saturday.
I watched it. I watched the highlights of it all.
But to watch all of it, you know why it doesn't have that type of mass app because, let me tell you something, them dunks were crazy good. They're crazy good dunks, man, And that used to be the highlight of somewhat of an NBA season. That was what you wanted, you waited for. You were excited, who's going to be in the dunk contest? Who's doing it this year? And you wouldn't learn, like you said, somebody who doesn't even play very many minutes. You would learn about new people and they would become celebrities. I'll never forget when Kenny Skywalker won the dunk contest doing like like aero dynamic, like acrobatic, like you know, like a ballet. He was doing ballet in the air when he was dunking, like Kenny's Skywalker wasn't like a dope basketball player for the Knicks, but we found out, we learned about who he was because of the way he was dunking like. It just built a lot of It built a lot of brands. And in the NBA back in the day, like in the late you know, mid eighties, early nineties, you know, nineties, like it was, All Star Weekend was a thing. And I think I think the NBA is suffering from the same exact thing that the NFL is suffering from as it applies to their All Star weekend, which is what is the relevance of these weekends? What can you do to make these weekends more relevant than what they are?
And I don't.
I think it's because of technology and all of these different things that's going on, fast paced technology. I think it's very it is a riddle that the NFL or the NBA has yet to figure out.
So the way they laid it out was, it's four different teams. You had rising stars, you had just like whatever if the TNT crew had their teams, and to break down the different categories and they would all meet up and then they would go into the final just team Shack, Kenny, Chuck, Candae Park like all that stuff. It was just a fiasco, like there's just there's there's too much going on. It was not all that entertaining. It wasn't funny. Like they tried their hardest to try and add comedy to it. It wasn't funny. And so Draymond Green, who is you know, slowly becoming better and better and better, and his media career after he's done play, it's already blossoming. After his career is over, he's going to be, you know, sitting with you know, the the great medium, the great former players to ever do it post career when it comes to the media. He spoke last night on TNT and gave a brutally honest critique of this new format.
You work all year to be an All Star and you get to play up to forty and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Winbyama, who just took this game really seriously, Chake Gilges Alexander who just took this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing after the points, wreckers, mellow with Kobe and all these guys who've had great story nice they don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. Also, we can watch some rising stars. We're about to watch that Olympic team. Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team play I against the U nineteen team.
Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten?
Your thoughts of the format ten being the best? Yes, let's zero sucks.
And that's a fair honest assessment. You know what, I think the real problem is with the NBA. I think the problem is the timing of it all that why would you have because listen, you mentioned the NFL all All Star games minus Major League Baseball are awful. They're awful like the Pro Bowl looks like, you know, an airing of Double Dare from twenty years ago. It's like you're waiting for some guy to slide down a chocolate slide and pull a flag out of the nose.
Like it's awful.
Like whatever they've they've thought they were doing to try and protect players in the Pro Bowl, it's terrible. It's not so much that the All Star Game sucks, it's the timing of it all. The NFL season just ended, there are people that are looking for things to watch, and the NBA throws out this instead of Hey, why don't we maybe do the All Star Game? I don't know, like do it the same weekend of the Pro Bowl? Do it earlier, Like let's let's let's move it up earlier, so that that way, when the NFL season is over, we're putting on primetime marquee matchups. You want to throw Celtics Thunder on because they're two of the best teams in the league, that's fine. You want to throw the Lakers with Luke on, but do that and present your product timing wise, in a better imagine. If you're an NBA fan and you're like, all right, I'm gonna give this NFL a try, and the first thing you see is the Pro Bowl should be looking around and go.
What the theF is this?
If you're the NBA, I don't know why they refuse to counter program. I don't know why they refuse to acknowledge you're not even the second most popular sport anymore. You're third behind college football. Why don't you like adjust your timing We've talked about, you know, start the season on Christmas Day and move it back so you're not competing with the NFL during and college football in the World Series and made all the other stuff that goes on in the fall. Move your season back. In this case, this feels like an easy fix. Just have your All Star game sooner, whatever you want to roll out, But the first weekend out of the gate with no football, this is the product you present it. It doesn't make any sense to me because it's an awful watch. And now all the conversation is about, man, the league is broken. It needs to do this, it needs to do that. Instead of we could be talking about great games, great matchups, like make it a mar Que moment to where NFL season's over, We'll take it from here, and instead they rolled out crap.
Well this again, I'll say the saddest part of the commentary outside of it being true, is is that the Dunks were phenomenal. They weren't just good, they were phenomenal, and nobody cared.
You know who cared?
The people who are probably upset right now that I said nobody cared, And that's like the niche portion of basketball fanatics. You have some basketball purists who love to judge anybody who doesn't, which you had that in every sport, but those are the people who care. What I don't understand is, again, how do you allow for such a disconnect to take place on something that has been such a major part of our American culture to slip into non relevance. I just don't get it. Like the three point contest, people like watching it. That's something that people will watch. It was something that it mattered. But no mistake about it. You enjoyed the game because you knew in the second half they were all going to play and they were gonna play hard, and they were gonna want to win the game, and the dunk contests like that's what it was. And I just I asked myself when when I when we were coming into the topic, I asked myself, is this just a symptom of me? Like old heads are always the ones that say, oh, it was so much better when when I was coming up, it was it was so different. Dah da da these days and you guys, you young young bucks, don't know anything about you know what it's all about?
This that is so different now? Am I am? I?
Like I gotta take a step back and say, am I coming at it from the wrong lens from the wrong perspective, and I looked. I looked a social media because social media can now give you an idea of how you're feeling and what the algorithms are, and because if it's something that's something, it's gonna be there, it's gonna pop up, it's gonna like you're making fun of Jello, You're making fun You're making fun of his song. That's one of the highlights of the whole deal is making fun of Jello being being the main that's your main performer.
What's there to make fun of one one song?
Like it's not even like the dude got an album out, Like the dude has one song that they may go viral and it's not even really a real performer. Like I'm sitting there, I'm like, you did not need all this gimmicky stuff. And it made me take a step back and say to myself, are we now looking at an NBA that is a personality less NBA. That's what it made my ultimate my ultimate thought and my conclusion was do we have an NBA now, Like do you know the personality of Victor Winban wimb Bin Yama? Do you know his personality?
Uh? Yeah, well he reads books before games, which do you know his personality?
You know, you know why we like Anthony ant Man so much because it's the first time we get a pulse of somebody having a freaking personality that You know why we like Draymond Green because we get a pulse of what a person. Do you know who Draymond Green is? Do you know how he is? Sure exactly exactly Steph Steph Curry, relatively obscure. You know he could shoot the ball. You know he's a good dude, does things in the community. You know his why, But do we really know his personality? You have those type of personalities from back in the day, but it's like they're like not, they're not the aid list group of celebrities.
That's you knew who Michael Jordan was.
In fact, Michael Jordan told all of us to come fly with him, and every one of us stopped. We could fly, And that's why we still be wearing this I got. I don't have no Jordan's on today, but I had some on yesterday. I had some on yesterday, and I'd be damn if I don't have Jordan's on more often than it.
Right.
Bottom line A New Ballads. We knew who.
Dominique Wilkins was, and we were all trying to beat the Human Highlight film.
We all were.
You knew whose foot, what it was. He was the more quiet one. He was like that quiet one. But you had so many personalities. Charles Barkley telling you to f off. I'm not your your role model, I'm not your kid's role model. I'm not your role model. I think what has happened with the NBA more specifically, which you shouldn't lose because they don't wear helmets. You don't have to battle people not knowing who you are and what you look like. You're six foot whatever, looking like an avatar.
You gotta have. There has to be more more.
Established personalities like throwing guns up in the club, throwing one's strippers, like you can't have John Morant, who is one of your biggest names and dopest players. That's how we know you, that's how we know you. Like that's Jason Williams back in the day and he's like the degenerate of all the superstars. But even then you knew who Jason Williams was. Personality was because it was a point to make sure that the personalities were getting consumed by the consumer. You're selling the game. We know who Lebron James is. We know his personality, we know who he is. He drives it because his personality and us knowing him, us going on this NBA journey with Lebron makes sense. How many players in today's NBA can we say that about when you could say that about each team, each team. If you were a Pistons fan, it was Vinnie the Microwave, it was Isaiah Thomas, it was Joe Dumars, it was Rick Mahorn, and you knew who they were.
Because they had They all had Bill Lambert.
They all had their their personalities that you love that made them the bad boys. If it was the New York Knicks, from Oakley to Mason to Ewing to Starts to Mark Jackson, you knew who these people were by market and their personalities drove the game and they mattered. From the Celtics to you name it, the Rockets, they all had their different personalities. The Portland Trailblazers, the Indiana Pacers, sitting there choking, Reggie, Reggie Miller. We got to know Reggie Miller. He's sitting there choking himself out to Spike Lee. There were so many great moments that built a relationship between the players, the teams, and the fans.
It's unrecognizable. You don't have that. I mean, am I off on this?
Do we?
There's that's a disconnect. That's a disconnect like, what's what is the connection to the player, what is the connection to the players as in general, and what's the connection to the team. Where has that gone? Because I think in a way, largely in part because of fantasy football and all this stuff going on with gambling, I think it's decentralized football as well.
I think that's a large.
Part of the problem that we have in football at this point now as well, is that decentralizing of what the fan could really focus in on, in that connection to the player and that connection to the team.
I think it's been I think it's been removed. Well, I mean, the good news is the All Star Weekend's over, So.
There you go.
Hopefully this is the last time we got talked about it. At least at least there's that. So so if you're not a fan of the All Star Weekend, congratulations, it's Monday.
It's over.
So it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox sitting in for Collin. So we are going to have some herdline news coming up later on this hour with Greg Twoy starring Greg Twoy. We'll be doing that throughout the course of the show as well too, as we take you all the way up until three pm Eastern time noon Pacific. Here without further ado, he is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analysts. You can get him on x at Prisco CBS. Pete, how we feel in here on Tuesday?
Are you guys? Is this like a little bit of a promo, a promotion for you guys? Have you stepped up to the league?
Is that what this said?
Yea, Pete, No, man, I'm kidding.
It's like little league. It's like little league. We're a pinch hitter.
You know you struck out three times around?
Oh wow?
Say that when we was in New Orleans, Damn, talk your little ass off that stage.
Before I even got on the stage with you, you were reminding me about.
Mike team You're ten because this as a phenomenal ten. You gotta be honest, that is a very distinctive ten, Pete. I mean, let's be clear. You got broad shoulders, you got a good tan. I was giving you all the props in the world. Now you come on here shooting at me.
You know, I don't know if you were giving me props, you would take a shot. It's all good.
Props, my guy, Pete, since since d C, come on, man, we got history.
You know, a.
Pete, what did Why did you piss off Eagles fans the way that you did?
What you do?
Now?
Why do it?
Would you do?
Now all these other quarterbacks you would take over Jalen Hurts? And now the fan base is going after you on social media. Do you haven't to see any of that, Pete?
Oh yeah, I see it. And I was on a Philly radio station today and another couple of them have reached out and everybody wants to take a shot at me. And and the question was posted to me, which quarterback would I take over a bunch of different quarterbacks? Would you take him for the next five years over Jalen Hurts and a bunch of them. I said yes. And so now of course the Philly fans are going nuts. And and you know, fresh off the Super Bowl. They can yell and scream all they want, but the reality is about the last month of the season, they weren't sitting there raving about their quarterback either.
I don't care what they.
Say, Coach Oyah, he's a good player, but would I take him over certain quarterbacks in the league. The answer to that question.
Is not what Herbert exact okay, number, okay, would.
You take him over Justin Herbert?
I wouldn't.
M I'm not going to answer what what?
What?
What you guys think?
Why won't you answer, because I'm just because it's your questions that you answered, So I was just letting you have it.
I think Herbert's an interesting one. Herbert's an interesting one because I think if you're I think the real question is what Howie Roseman take Justin Herbert over Jalen Hurts, And I would imagine he would say, yes, dang, well.
There's a And the other one was Trevor Lawrence. I said, look right now, I'd say there there I take. I have a hard time picking between the two of them because the Hurts has played better, but Lawrence is much more upside in my mind, you know, And so that was a tough one for me. I got they got mad about that. Dak Prescott. Now, Dak Prescott LEDs the league in touchdown passes last year.
Stop you'd take Hurts over him? Right now?
Are you serious?
You take Dak over Hurts?
I don't know if I would. I don't know if he's by the way in that little playoff running. He just had a average throwing about two hundred yards passing, and and and you know the sack numbers that he holds the ball way too long. His sack numbers. He has thirty eight sacks on the season. And he threw like two hundred, which is ties his career high from two years ago. And he threw to under almost two hundred few passes. He owns the ball too long. He's good. I see the way I look at it. Guys, you could take one through five, and there's now a five because Jade Daniels is now in that five. The one through five, those guys are clearly above everybody else. And then the next group of seven or eight, nine guys are all kind of lumped in together.
If you ask me, I'm going to help us get off this topic.
Another quarterback, one that seems to be disgruntled with this situation, with this franchise, and he's a guy that you've been very high on Pete. You know, you didn't necessarily predict him never won a Super Bowl yet, but you said he's gonna win multiple That's that's Joe Burrow.
Uh.
Do the Bengals get Jamar Chase t Higgins and Trey Hendrickson all done this offseason? And if they you don't think they do. How does the long term out look for Burrow in Cincinnati? Do you think he's going to eventually get frustrated? He may end up somewhere else like Carson Palmer.
Well, look, I think, first off, I'll start with the first part of it. I think it's going to be tough to get all three of them done with long term extensions.
So I guess, okay, real quick, real quick, Why do you say that?
When we look at Philly and Burrow's even said this, they figure out how to make it work, So why can't Since Nat.
Can make it work? The question becomes do you do you want to make it work? And the reason I'm saying, of course those are good players, but what does that do to the rest of your roster. Are they any damn good at all in defense? And you know Hendrickson is good as you get Pete.
No, but we're talking about the Super Bowl champs literally just did this with multiple players. They have six players who are making twenty million or more year on their salary.
Yeah, and then they supplement it by going to get a guy like Zack Bond and paying them on one year deal and he becomes a big part of their defense. And now he goes. Now they got to either pay him or he leaves. I get it, you can do it, Brady. That's not That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if you why not, you could tag Higgins and maybe get a market for him out there and trade them and get some assets. And then if you want to keep Hendrickson and you want to pay Chase, okay, would I try and keep all of them? Absolutely? But if you if the money gets too crazy and you can't, then I think you have to prior toys where you want to go with it. And you know, if you take Hendrickson off that defense, what are they are they any good? They're they're horrible? Yeah, go with him, Well, then now they're gonna be even worse, and that puts even more pressure on Joe Burrow in that offense. So yeah, I think ideally they tag Higgins, get a deal done with Chase, extend Hendrickson, because you know Hendrickson isn't a kid anymore. Either extend him and then and then come back to to Higgins and see if can get something done, and if you can't, then you peddle get some something back for him.
But what about the second part of the question, though, do you think it would get to him not going anywhere?
He's one of the top, he's one of the top four quarter he's one of the guys. He's an it guy. You don't get rid. You don't let that go out the door. So no, I don't think so.
You wouldn't have said that about Palmer. During his time with the Bengals.
Well, he also suffered a major knee injury at one point.
Remember Burroughs had Burrows had significant injuries like's let's.
Not go there, that's true major he hasn't since.
He's been there.
He had a very unique like wrist injury, elbow wrist like that. Again, it seemed like it took a little while to work itself out this year.
Yeah, but he worked it out himself out, alrighty three he hit it on the MVP type season.
But Pete, don't get distracted by it.
You act like this franchise has ever built ever around any quarterbank.
Pete, Well, I mean they built around Boomer back in the day.
If you would he say that, if you asked him when he say that, because I've've heard him talk otherwise on that, and that's why he it was Palmer's gone.
That's why he said maybe Burrow one day would be.
But I think the old reputation of the Bengals is a little misguided now used to be. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and defend what they used to.
So this isn't just because you're really close with a couple of people in the front office.
They're like, is this sounds like there's a little bias in your He's pretty close to a couple of people.
I know.
I won't say, I won't say, name's Pete, but you and I both know you're You're you're friendly, You're friendly with a few guys.
Sounds like you're friendly, Pete.
I'm not. I'm not friendly I know some of them, but the reality I don't think they're as cheap as everybody portrays in the bags.
Well what are tell us what they are?
Pete.
The question becomes, you want to keep T Higgins in lieua going get help in other positions? That's that's basically what it comes down to. Would you Yes?
I would. I would keep T Higgins too.
I keep him too, but but if he gets irrational, then then I'm not keeping him at Trade him somewhere, get some him.
But that's the tag, right doesn't the tag remove the irrational approach to what it is you have going on? It's like you're getting.
Ah, you can negotiate a deal with them, That's.
What I'm saying.
You get a non exclusive tag that says we you're giving them the opportunity to see what his value is on the open market. So if you come back and we got to have a conversation about your your contract, then you understand that the market has spoken and that we're most likely your best option. Right and now how it would play out? Or you just stay on that non exclusive tag.
Right, or you just tag them and then trade. I mean you could do that too. I think letting him leave the free agency would be the worst thing they could do. Uh.
Pe Prisco joining us here on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. Who's the worst run organization in the NFL?
Oh, good question, Jacksonville, what.
Pete?
Answer the question?
Get me wrong, don't get me wrong.
Answer the question.
When Trent Balke was in there running things, they were the worst run I would answer that question by.
One under that Carolina.
I mean that's a Jacksonville, Carolina j When Trent Balke was running the Jacksonville Jaguars, they were the worst run organization in the in the league. I would agree. I would agree with that. You know, the owner gives that proposition a lot of power, and that power he brought into you know, urban Meyer. I mean, come on, he brought in urban Meyer. Look what happened with that? That was a master and so and so situation. It's the worst run. Yeah, for that time being, was the worst run organization. So yes, to answer that question, yes, what.
About right now?
Right now?
Who's got it? Now?
Well, let's see who they are as a general manager.
Then I'll get back.
But they're down to five, right, They're down to five. They get there, they are.
Down to five but look, Tony Boselli, who I know well and Brady knows him as well.
There we go again, Here we go.
They hired him in an executive VP, and he's going to fix the organization. He's gonna They're going to hire the right yeam fix it. And it all depends on who Liam how Liam Cone is as head coach, and I think from what I hear, he's going to be pretty good.
But okay, okay.
T.
It's just football, by the way. It's not that complicated. It really isn't. It's it's look, you know, Tony Ball. I worked with him on radio for all those years and and had to teach him part of the game. Him down here, and now he's back and running the Jets. I had to teach him part of the game. Brady Quinn all over the TV, everywhere I work with him down here, I had to teach him part of that. It's not that complicated.
It's just Himball.
I love.
Way to go out guns blazing. Everyone left you, Pete, Now you're the one there. Everybody left. Well done, Pete.
You know what, don't bring somebody else in to work with me, and I'll teach him A singer to you every Sunday to.
Get some good chicken cutlets or something.
Pete Prisco, you can get him on ex at Prisco CBS and if you come for him, he does like the smoke, so he will respond on social media.
Thanks Pete.
We appreciate it all right, guys there Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnsts from CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q analyst. Uh.
By the way, with the exception of a couple of as have been in the bottom half of the league, it's cash spending and especially if you take out Burrows money.
So there you go.
Yeah, I love Pete, man. You can tell he always he always manages uh an opportunity to get a few digs in. You know, he's got to take his shots.
Man.
There's just much respect, just mutual respect, you know. Okay, Yeah, that's cool. You know, just a couple of couple of one.
Of those office guys he's close with. Yeah, I got two, that's my guy.
So we're good.
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Uh Okay, So Ryan, do you want to do you want to guess? You want to guess what we're working with here in Green Bay is I'm I'm looking out at at actual at the bay. My dog loves it outside, no matter how cold it is outside. Do you want Ryan, do you want to take any sort of guess of what it is right now? Ah, seventeen degrees Okay, it is sunny and twenty five degrees. Sonny in twenty five feels like twenty one. I'm told last night he was in the last night was the negatives. We're out of the negatives for a while. But it's a it's a dry twenty five. That's the good thing, right to dry heat, try heat. I bring it up up because we're two months away from the NFL Draft being in Green Bay, and we had no snow in November and December and just dustings in January, and then we haven't gotten dumped. We had like back to back, so there's probably about eight inches ten inches of snow on the ground, but no one has any idea. But in April it could be seventy five, it could be forty five. We had no idea. But it's gonna be fun to have everybody in town for the NFL Draft. Let's get to what we saw last night on the basketball floor. Really, the only thing going of note was the Lakers taking on the Charlotte Hornets last night at at Crypto, and the Lakers lose after having a big lead, and there's like, you can make lots of we can do the whole blame pie that they used to do on Undisputed. We can make it out all to be Lebron's fault because he missed two shots in the last five seconds with the chance to send it to overtime. But we'd also would be being unfair to Lebron because well, without Lebron they wouldn't have had that lead. He was the one Laker who really had it going. Of course, Austin Reeves got thrown out of the game for what he's for, uh, for a verbal attack, not an official right. So then you end up having the Hornets win after the Horns come storming back outscore the Lakers thirty two eighteen the third quarter, a twenty twenty two to one run, and the Lakers just did not come out of the locker room. Well, but I ye, look, if your if you're honest and you're and you're being fair. As much as I don't agree with the trade, I don't, but I also there's lots of things I don't know about, and neither do you, because on the outside, you're like, man, Luca is a generational talent. He's in any conversation of currently the best player in the league when he's healthy. He just took the Mavericks to the NBA Finals and it felt like they were building the thing around him. Now, the three hundred and fifty million dollars, four year contract extension that was out there for him, that's a real thing. And again, if you're running a business, you're like, who's your best employee, Well, it's this guy, But he's always late. You know, there's just a limit. It feels like it's gonna get worse with age. If you look at Luca and you're honest with yourself, you're like, he's not the picture of fitness. He doesn't play defense. It's kind of amazing he's able to be this good despite the things he doesn't do. And if you're gonna give a guy a four year, three hundred and fifty million dollar contract, like, once you give him that contract, that's kind of on you because that's fully guaranteed. Like you can get mad and stop your feet as much as you want, but you still have to pay them. Whether you play or you don't play. And if you think that is unique, just to this. No, no, no, no. We say this on my show. So my show is the Doug Gottlieb Show. It runs after this one on most Fox Sports, Trailier Radio Phillis, and the iHeartRadio app. And we say this all the time about the collective bard and agreement in the NFL. You know, you get players who are complaining about how many games they're playing. Hey, shouldn't have agreed to the contract. You know, you get owners that don't like some of the deals with you know, the amount of time they're practicing. Should agree to the contract. Players don't like the franchise tag should agree to the contract. Franchise tag is a collectively bargained agreement anyway. It's a contract that a high enough percentage of the players, the majority of the players agreed to, so it lives. And if you don't like it, well, then this is not the business for you, because that's something that collect actively, they've collectively bargained upon for a decade long contract. And the point is that the hornet of the Horns, the Mavericks. You could be as critical as you want of the trade, and my critique would be. If you're going to trade away a guy and not take him to market, you have to get such an incredible value. So we're on in southern California, so people in LA know this to be true. And I know the real estate market right now is a little bit flat, right. Interest rates are high, although they've dropped some, Okay, the the but the housing market is the perfect parallel because and if you live in a market where this isn't the case, I'm sorry you may have to catch up because it's a little bit different. I sold three houses in Newport Beach when I lived there. Okay, all three of them we sold off market. The house was never listed, was never listed, Well how I just tell the house like it was like somebody just hey, man, you want to I'll give you a fifteen million dollars your house, Like that's not how it works. But realtors do knock on your door. They do slide newspapers and paper into your of the Hey I got a buyer is look it. And I have a tremendous realtor in in Newport. I'll give a shout out my man, John Deshaun. And they know everybody coming in coming out everybody, and so all you got to do is go like, hey, we're we'd actually think about listing this thing. And then you talk about what do you think it's worth, and like you know what, I might have a client for you. And so again there's three different homes. One people. One couple walks in. I want it how much done? So you don't have to list it. You don't have to have an opening, open house, you don't have to have a real or open house. You don't have to take all the pictures, you don't have to do all the things. Okay, sometimes you don't have to do an inspection. People walk in there like I want it as is. Here's the check. I don't know where people have this kind of money, but it does happen. Happens, but there is one caveat to it. And this is just a belief I have. I think most people would share. That belief is if you're gonna buy something off market and I'm not gonna get into a bidding war, especially in a buy in a seller's market, well then you're gonna have to pay maybe not above asking, but it's gonna the asking has to be a little bit higher than one would expect you know, like if it's an eight hundred thousand dollars house and you're like, well, what do you listening for? Like, I don't know, We'll take a twenty five for it, Like this is not You're not really have room to haggle because if you want to hang away, listen, if you don't want to pay that price, that's fine. We'll just take it to market and maybe you can get it for seven fifty or seven twenty five, or maybe it gets bid up and yet pay nine hundred for it. So to me, the biggest mistake is that if you're gonna have a commodity like Luca, then everyone concludes is would I mean, it's the best player that could ever could possibly be traded at twenty five years old, you know, in an expiring contract, Like that's a pretty good deal. And now, by the way, he can't get that Supermax deal, So you're gonna save some some money to the new team as well. You gotta get a little bit more than they got. You just have to figure out a way to get more. And if you if the Lakers didn't want to get more, like all right, Rob, listen, I know we got a great relationship. But I'm gonna have to take this to market. And when I take it to market, I don't I don't know if just Anthony Davis and a couple of other pieces, if that doesn't. But the other side to it is if you if you're honest with yourself, and so many, so few people actually are honest with themselves, and you go, Okay, why do you make the trade? Well, because he's not really in shape, he doesn't really play defense, and he consistently gets himself out of shape in the offseason, and the defense is never really picked up. And yet we get to the NBA Finals. So if anything, it kind of it gives him, it empowers him, like, hey, I didn't play much defense last year. We made the NBA Finals. Why are you yelling at me about it? If you watched last night? Okay, And I get he's still coming off injury. It's on a new team. He's playing off the ball more. Whereas everything, everything, everything, everything was him with a ball screen in Dallas, which, by the way, the Lakers really want to remake themselves. They're worrying so much about finding a rim protector. You got to figure out a way to create ball screen opportunities for Luca. He's amazing at it. But if you watched last night, you would say like he's in very good shape and many he didn't play any defense. And somewhere Nico Harrison's sitting there going, what's the what's the meme with? Oh man?
The meme with that guy that what's his face?
That meme?
Come on, dude, We'll give me some clues here, give me some hold on.
Uh uh now I'm now, I'm really having it, having a tough day. Okay, who what's the meme? He? Uh? Famous actor date swimming much younger than him, George, No, he's married. We DiCaprio on his couch with a beer, pointing out the screen right doing the you know, looking at the screen.
From once upon his time in Hollywood.
Yep, yes, yes that one. What is that? What does that meme called? What would you how would you describe that meme? When you want to search for that meme? What do you discribe?
How would Leo DiCaprio pointing at TV.
I don't know, Yes, that's Nico last night, see that dad right there? That's the one. And then you know Lebron misses two shots at the end. And we're supposed to argue about, like sports radio is supposed to be, who's gonna take the game when he shot? Is it Lebron? Is it Luca? And I just think those things organically take care of themselves, Like Lebron had to go in last night, he takes them. Eventually, it's gonna be Luca's team. But you gotta allow Lebron kind of like his space. It's his deal, like undo his deal. And then once we get to the playoffs, we know who's gonna have the ball.
But Doug, it's sports talk. So you doing the case by case thing that's somewhere in the middle. That's far too rational for sports talk. So how about we narrow this down game seven of a payoff series? Who do you want coach taking that shot?
Like it all depends?
Yeah, it depends. That's that doesn't work. There's no more depends you have to do.
There is though, that Like that's where sports talk. Sports talk is the the the polarizing either you know either your because this is why how sports talk works. If I don't think Lebron James is the greatest player of all time, I'm a hater and I've somehow said he sucks. Whereas you know, there's four hundred and fifty NBA players right now, there's eight billion people on the planet. They're the best of the best, the best. And again, the NBA has existed for about one hundred years, but really were only paying attention in the past forty years. And if I say he's the second or third best, that's not saying he sucks. That's saying I prefer Jordan. Honestly, in a game, I would have preferred Bird in his prime, probably Magic in his prime to Lebron. But Lebron's great and his ability to longevity, he's amazing, He's awesome. I just like those guys in the short instance better. Again, I know that doesn't work for I guess that doesn't work for some people's sports radio. What would I do? I would this year? Again, it depends who's are they double teaming Lebron, they double teaming Luca, who's open, who's playing well? I probably end up like again, if all things being equal, it would probably be Luca.
That's a that's a good exercise. So they're both having a great game, they both have similar stats, and at the end, you're just like, I want Luca so that's the way to put it. I like that, So I'm gonna hold you to that.
Yeah, because he's done it at the end of playoff games more recently than Lebron has done it. Lebron has done it more often for more years in the playoffs. But it stands the reason that Luca, at twenty five years old, having just taken a team to the NBA Finals last year, he's done it more recently and he will be younger. And although he's not in shape now, if we were to get that deep into the NBA playoffs, he would be in the best shape of the year. And I would and they both I mean, look, the thing about both of them is both the incredible passers. So if you throw a second guy at him, they will find the open guy. But I would say Luca would be my guy.
And it depends on the shot too, right, Like last night they needed a three. I mean, if Lebron could get you two easier than a three, right, Luca is the better perimeter shooter.
Uh yeah, yeah, I mean, like, look, Lebron had two really good looks. Those are two really good looks. He left him short, but those are two good looks. And at the time, he was I think four of nine from three. So whoever gets those looks that's on the floor at the end, Dorian Finney Smith or Gabe Vincent or if Ruey had two wide open looks, Ruey shot the ball poorly last night, Like those are good looks, a little deep. But yeah, of course it depends upon the selection of the shot, where it comes to the shot clock, who it's against, how you're playing, all these things. We make these we make this stuff up. Like, you know, it's like when the Ravens, when the Ravens lost in the playoffs, you know, people critical of the play calling. Should they have given it to Derrick Henry more often? Like yeah, but then when he turned the football over and he get behind and they're stack in the box? Is that the is that the best way? Is that the best way? So Lakers lose all of the flaws with with Luca and some with Lebron on display. If we're fair about it, he's Luca was still a plus thirteen despite the fact that he was like Lebron, his stats were way better. Was a minus four, Luca a plus thirteen. He ends up with fourteen eleven and eight assists. Did have six turnovers, was five to eighteen from the floor and struggled to guard as Lamello late in the game. Will let him up. But if you watch that game and you're fair about it, again, I wouldn't have traded Lukadancik no chance. But if you're fair about it, you go.
He do.
Look at he's in shape and he ain't got anybody.
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Huh, you know I'm okay with this. Hey, I'm Carabino.
That is rich and we are live from Union, New Jersey. We're here in Jersey, dirty Jersey, eating lots of pizza.
Eaten lots of Taylor ham saying, which is tell the truth.
We just got out of a meeting with hal Steinbrenner Jr. Yes, and he took my word serious. And it's like a holiday. We have lots to talk about.
No more facial hair policy.
Well we'll explain for the new York Yankees. We're gonna talk hockey today.
What the hell?
Usually I say hockey schmocky, not today. Plus there's some stories about being starstruck. We got weekend hob nobbin things you need to watch over the weekend. But I'm so excited about this New York Yankee story. Again, Cavino and rich In. For Colin on the Herd, the number is eight seven seven. For the Herd, we got super producer Danny g g.
What's up man? Happy Friday is right?
Like I said, it's a celebration for baseball fans, for Yankee fans especially, and it's like ding dong, We'll grow our beards, grow our beards, our beads.
Oh you said, baseball fans only Yankees fans. No one cares except you guys.
But I think it's a great, great change in the right direction. And of course we have this big, sexy Ryan back at the studios two on the ones and twos, and of course you Fox Sports Radio Nation, thanks again for hanging out with us. Let's get involved, let's get it going. We are on site in Jersey because well we did an event yesterday, believe it or not with Dallas Goddard, which, by the way, post is a very interesting question. What happens when you start to become friendly with guys that are not on the team you root for.
I think there's a real simple answer to that, to be honest.
Yeah, so Dallas Gonnard, super Bowl champion of the Philadelphia Eagles.
We had to do an event with him yesterday.
And he's such a great dude, nice guy, reel down to earth, super pumped about his win. Makes you pump for him? The answer is simple. I think you start to like players but still root for your team.
I think that's okay. You could still root for your team.
Rich is a lifelong forty nine Ers fan, but you root for that player as a man, as an individual.
It's like when your favorite player leaves the team.
You don't abandon your favorite player. You still root for him a little bit, keep your eye on him. You keep your alliance and your allegiance to the team you root for. So it's really that like getting to know him. We've had him on our show a few times. We're gonna get him on again. We spent a whole day with him yesterday. We met his girlfriend, right We talked about life and the vig three and what it's like to be in the locker room.
You get to know the guy and.
You realize he's a down to earth, strapping young fella. You just get to root for him and appreciate him, and you keep your eye on him. As simple as that, you know what, simple move on. But I think back to when I was a little boy and as a Niners fan. When Montana left for the Chiefs, I didn't become a Chiefs fan, but there was a part of me that's like, unless they play the Niners, I'm certainly gonna hope cool Joe does well.
Exactly.
Yeah, It's like, yeah, so now we're rooting for him and he'll be on the show more and more often. Again Coveno and Rich we're normally on from five to seven on the East Monday through Friday, two to four on the West. Just search Coveno and Rich at Covino and Rich on social media or call us now eight seven seven for the Herd.
It's a pleasure to be here again.
That's what brought us to the East coast. We live in Los Angeles. But they said, hey, we need you to do some event with Dallas Gonner. Would you like to do it. We said yes, So since we were on the East, we said, let's go back to Jersey, say hi to the fam, stuff our faces with Taylor Ham and pizza, and let's rock the herd today. Let me tell you it's it's very interesting because I feel like of all the shows on Fox Sports Radio, and I'm not patting ourselves on the back because it's such a stupid story, but I feel like we were the league leaders in joking about the Yankees' lay mass facial hair policy, like we would often bring up young Dominican players, young Latino players, you know around the league, any young player for that matter, who wants to clean shave.
In twenty twenty five, it's a lame ass look. Very few guys clean shave.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it this morning.
We got so many messages because again we're the bozos that bring it up often. But let me read the press release from your dude, a guy that now runs your Los Yankees.
He's my dude.
Today hal Steinbrenner put a statement out, my family, all my friends.
So many people.
I woke up.
I was like, what now am I dreaming? It really felt like, no way, this can't be real.
Statement from Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner. The memo is regarding alterations of Yankee facial hair policy.
What.
In recent weeks, I've spoken to a large number of former and current Yankees, spanning several eras to elicit their perspectives on our long standing facial hair and grooming policy.
The fact this is even a memo it's hilarious.
To me, and I appreciate their earned and varied feedback. These most recent conversations are an extension of ongoing internal dialogue that dates back several years. Ultimately, the final decision rest with me, and after great consideration, as a Steinbrenner, we will be amending our expectations to allow our players and uniform personnel to have well groomed beards moving forward. It is the appropriate time to move beyond the familiar comforts of our former policy.
It is and what we said when they got Devin Williams's I think change starts with one man, and I believe that he was the catalyst and that one man because you invest what eight point something million dollars a year for this guy to be the closer of your team and intimidation role. Really, you're closing the game, you're the closer of the New York Yankees, and you have this this really intimidating, dominating beard that gives you this sense of confidence and makes you feel like a badass, and then you're forced to shave it. Now you look like a baby.
Cherub on the mound and pinstripes away.
Then intimidation factor. And Devin Williams is very outspoken. He wasn't disrespectful, but he was very outspoken on the fact that he hadn't shaved in years and that he felt very comfortable with his beard and more confident with his beard. So essentially, you're telling them to shave, taking away their confidence. That then becomes a counterproductive thing. And you know, we mentioned our time with Dallas Goddard yesterday Philadelphia Eagle. Coincidentally, I said to him, just in random conversation, I said, hey, Dallas, he had a regular scruff going on, right, a regular.
Twenty twenty five scruff with some facial hair.
I'm like, if the Eagles had a policy and they said you had a shave, how would you feel about it? How would the guys react? He's like, oh, man, that would be terrible. He's like, nah, you would find eventually, you'd find somewhere else to play, because that's just you know, you got to think about the offseason and just out and about and just how you feel about yourself. He's like the young guys today, no way, man, I don't like that. That was his take on it. You hear how young people's young people talk about, you know, how they want to look when they're out there. It's about time. And again, I'm a Yankees fan, so I believe in tradition. But as we've said many times, sometimes tradition is making the same mistake over and over again. And hal Steinberner said it right now is the time. It's the perfect time. And the rule is well groom beards, meaning you can't show up to work because it's work. You know, you got to show up like a professional. You can't show up to work looking like hobo Williams. You can't look like a hobo, can't look like a member of the four Red Sox exactly.
Which I always thought it was a crappy look. But work, let me.
Tell you, it's it's interesting. And I think twenty twenty five is the right timing. You know, forget it's a Yankees. A lot of these young players have more deals than ever with brands on social media, TikTok, Instagram x, they're doing, they're pimping more products than ever before. It's a different time, and I think it was the right move by Steinbrenner, and you and I were breakfast getting some tailor ham Like you said out here in New.
Jersey, it's not pork and that argument needs to end now.
I know people in Texas or LA or Chicago, bigger cities around the country are like, who cares about the Yankees' facial hair? It's an ongoing joke that these dudes had to look like they were showing up in an accounting office shaving every day. But to the point now where you look back and say, how many Yankees would have looked different? And now, are we guaranteed to get a bearded Aaron Judge this year?
A down because in the off season, Yeah, that's how most of these young dudes are rocking it. In fact, if you look at us right now, we got a well groomed scruff going on.
It's just the way of the world.
You're going to force these young dudes throughck a cornball mustache like your dad had.
Get out of here.
I mean, not to backtrack a week but less Friday, we filled in for Colin and Big Sexy Ryan and Danny G.
I believe I asked both of you. This came up literally a week ago because I said, yo, guys, when was the last time you shaved your face? And you guys said years and years?
Am I right?
You are correct sir?
Yeah?
For me, Danny G, it's been since high school, my senior year.
Yeah.
So when you hear this policy, it is funny how we probably have talked about this stupid policy more than any other show, so we could put it to rest. But it was crazy to wake up this morning and your phone is lit up, like, oh my god. I hope nothing bad happened. But we are synonymous with this stupid story. So I'm glad we got to fill in for Colin today.
But it is a bigger deal because so many people laughed at the Yankees because of that. If you're not a Yankees fan, you still looked at it like, yo, man, that's the most outdated policy possible.
You and your stupid Yankee rules are so dumb.
You know if I was a young player, I wouldn't want to play there, and as a result, I think it became an uncool place to play, Like what clean shaving in today's world, Like, I'd rather play for another team. Other teams are willing to pay you nowadays. So yeah, if there's another team willing to pay you, and they're a contender and they're gonna let you grow your facial hair and be who you want to be and be as flashy as you want to be, and you could be comfortable in your own skin, why wouldn't you choose that team? Yankees were gonna lose talent as a result of this stupid rule that they held on too, And I say stupid from today's standard. Yeah, I understood it years ago, Like, hey, you show up to work as a professional.
I get it.
So I do like the compromise, and I hate to be that guy. There's so many sports guys especially that were like I've been saying it. I've always told you I was the guy.
I don't know.
I don't want to be that guy. I don't want to be that guy. But I did say that it starts with one man. That man would be Devin Williams and that it should be a compromise. And that's exactly what you got. They're allowed to have a well groomed beard, so they're not coming in looking like h like yeah, like Kevin Malar or Johnny Damon or old Man Winter. Right, you gotta have a well groomed beard. And I think it's a big, big move moving forward. I bet you it's a celebration in the locker room.
And then it poses a lot of times it's a little victory, right because you're no one looking like Justin Turner. But look at this in Vegas, the Yankees over underwent from ninety two to ninety four wins.
Look at that, people are predicting the beards. Give him two more wins.
Yeah.
But interestingly enough, are we going to see every single Yankee rocking some type of stubble or facial air?
That's the John Carlow. Yes, I think you're gonna see.
Think of Garrett Cole when he was an astro, not a Yankee. Garrett Cole had long hair and a beard.
Garrett Cole here, I'm already starting a starting growing my official hair again.
Garrett Cole.
I guarantee that goober Aaron Judge taking.
It back to Houston roots Eric grow a little bit of a mullet too. I'm not sure.
Aaron Judge definitely gonna be having a beard on opening day. And it was Verdugo, former Yankee who's a free agent still, I believe, said yeah, I just want to go play for a team where I could wear my jewelry, grow my beard and be me. So maybe there was a catalyst there too, where they're like, listen, he didn't work out for us. But you know when companies you work for, when you leave or they fire you or you quit, they're.
Like, can you take an exit survey?
And you're like, yeah, no thanks, but they want you to take an exit survey on the way out, like what did you look about our company?
What didn't you?
They got a public exit survey from Ford Goo, and his exit survey was I played for the franchise with the most history in midjor League Baseball, and I hated it.
Well, any place that you work take it to a real life situation for everybody listening, where.
They won't let you be you and you can't do you.
There's a lot of places that hire you right because they like you then when you.
Get there, they change you to do it their way.
So now you're out of your comfort zone and you can't be one hundred percent your best in a weird way that matters and translates into baseball.
You're probably thinking big deals facial hair.
You know.
Imagine if they forced you to wear a stupid haircut or a certain type of facial hair at your profession. Again, I think it would take you out of your game. You would feel weird about it. Like this isn't mean we don't.
Need to harp on this, like Bryce Harper, who, by the way, would look weird without facial hair exactly. I don't want to harp on this, but Danny g just one quick more question for the room.
I've never seen you not wear a hat. What a Fox Sports was like?
Oh yes, Daniel, Danny, we you can't wear.
A hat anymore. That would aggrevate you.
I have some stylish do rags at home.
No, no dew rags as well, Danny. You just have to show your head.
We call them don't rags here at the offense respectfully.
Then I would shave my dome and get a tattoo on the top of my bald hat.
Ryan, let me ask you, big sexy Ryan, So you got a cool ass, like, you know, grizzly beard. Imagine like Ryan, you Ryan would go from looking like James Harden to James Soften.
Yeah, he would. And it's a confidence killer that it is.
You look cool with your beard. And I know some guys like, really, who cares about a beard?
I bet your confidence and how good you feel about yourself comes with your appearance and it's on your face. So there's a lot of guys that are like, yeah, I would look like a baby little boy clean shaven. So think about that.
Think about that, and also think about this.
There will be people that still show up clean shaven, and that's going to be interesting because you're like, that's the guy who And then when you read how Steinbrenner said, he said he got varied opinions.
So there were people that were like, no, I think we should stick with the tradition. How right.
There were people that were probably on the side of keeping things the way they were, And oh, you know, George would be rolling over in his grave right now if you I think George would be happy about this. Does have to evolve, As we say all the time, and we quote our pal Gary Vaynerchuk innovate or die, and it was becoming a very very dated rule. It made a team that I root for feel little corny after a while. And I think it is a bigger day than people realize.
You know, I'm just I'm looking at some of our feedback. Our boss hit us up with a link.
Someone has already done images of Yankees with different hairstyles and beards. That's another thing, rich, Like, how do you think the people feel like who had to live by these policies? Like a Glaber Torres right, who his whole career with Yankees had to show up like a little baby boy and now you know he's a tiger. He's already got the facial hair going on, but he's like, oh so now they lift it.
You know, it's like he just missed the cuddle.
Think of any social issue right where where you grew up and they didn't allow something and now they do. Like for all we know, Don Mattically and Rod Gidgery are really pissed, like yeah, they're like he had a lightning's like I could have had a beard.
Exactly like all the players from Yesteryear. But look if you're a non Yankees fan. I get it you don't care that much, but this is a big deal. Change is a good thing and for the first time, you're gonna see Yankee showing up, you know, with a well groomed beard, not just a goofy mustache. Your thoughts, that's our take on it. And again, I hate to be the show that said we told you, but we did say a compromise was inevitable, inevitable and coming soon, and today was the day.
Well, hey, your thoughts at eight seven seven for the Herd if you want to chime in most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio at Covino and Rich. I actually made Covino give me his initial reaction this morning before he went on the air, and he was actually pretty fired up.
So you get checked that out. Because it's about time, right, it really is. It's about time, but it's also the perfect time. And I know this sounds like a stereotape of sorts, but you're right. As baseball grows into more of an international game, forget about the fact that it's twenty twenty five, right, Yeah, it's an international game.
You expect these young Latino players.
These Dominican superstars to want to go and play for a team like the Yankees and shave something that sort of identifies them.
No, you know what I mean, Like it.
Sounds silly, but it's not. That's how they look, that's how they feel confident, especially now in twenty twenty five, when this younger generation is all about.
Being an individual and I want to be me and blah.
Like there's conformity is you know, not a thing people are down with anymore at all.
So it's the right move. Congrats of the Yankees. Yeah, I'm a Mets fan, but but you know what it also means you not.
Only the pressure that the players and the young people were putting on the Yankees, and they were feeling the heat from social media and the banter and our show. Of course, we've been talking about it for a long time, Bally, Like I said, and your meeting with Hell, this my meeting with Hal you know, I was like I found in my fist. I'm like, listen, how I'm serious about this flu into New Jersey for this look as about the local here, I'm telling you we don't want to completely shave. It's twenty twenty five. I think the Yankees are also making a statement, and I think we're the first to probably say it. They're feeling the heat, fee the heat, and they know they have to compete, and they're thinking, look, we have to be the place to be. And there's no reason for anyone to want to turn away for this, no reason why anyone should choose to be a met or a Dodger or any other high market team or other team that would allow this. We're the Yankees, and if we're going to compete with these other teams, we have to make this adjustment.
