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All right, it is a super Bowl week and we will be in New Orleans Thursday and Friday. It is a wild Monday when we had probably the most staggering memorable NBA or sports trade in a long time. Welcome into the Herd, Jmax joining me. It's hard to dissect what we saw yesterday because when you just set it out loud, it looks like the Lakers stole at one of the time three players in the league and gave up a very very good player, but not much else. And LA does have a history of always getting the guy, the Lakers more so than even the Yankees get the guy. So they have found their guy for the next we think, five to ten years, and so let's try to dissect it. So Nico Harrison has for not very long been the general manager of Dallas and he's a risk taker. He did the Kyrie move. Everybody criticized him.

All right, it is a super Bowl week and we will be in New Orleans Thursday and Friday. It is a wild Monday when we had probably the most staggering memorable NBA or sports trade in a long time. Welcome into the Herd, Jmax joining me. It's hard to dissect what we saw yesterday because when you just set it out loud, it looks like the Lakers stole at one of the time three players in the league and gave up a very very good player, but not much else. And LA does have a history of always getting the guy, the Lakers more so than even the Yankees get the guy. So they have found their guy for the next we think, five to ten years, and so let's try to dissect it. So Nico Harrison has for not very long been the general manager of Dallas and he's a risk taker. He did the Kyrie move. Everybody criticized him.

It worked.

It worked.

He made that big move at the trade deadline last year. It got him into the finals. He's taken big swings. He's different. But this feels like an absolutely egregiously bad moves. So why did he make the move? Well, let's start with this. I think the reason that Michael Jordan is the most popular basketball player of all time. Kobe Bryant's up there too, is that relentlessness, that work ethic. It's not Luca. He's often in poor shape and is a lousy defender, and he's hurt increasingly more and more and more due to his bad conditioning. So there's a little shack in Luca. And the Lakers moved off Shack, right, They had a choice. They took Kobe the relentless worker. So is that the reason they moved off him? The Maverick owners are staring down the barrel of seventy four million dollars a year contract, and he doesn't defend. He's hard on teammates, but won't play defense. There's a little barkley, there's a little shack. He's not the hardest worker. The max contract now is punitive if you get the wrong guy. Maybe the owners look at Embiid's mess and Philly or the Kawhi saga with the Clippers and said, new owners, no, thank you, not interested. Now. That does not give you an excuse to give away Luca for one first round pick. But I do think if there would have been three first round picks, Anthony Davis and maybe in Austin Reeves. Okay, I should we consider that phone call. I can make some sense of it because I don't think Luca is the perfect player. He has now had three calf injuries in four years, same calf, hasn't played since Christmas, missed the last two training camps. There's stuff here and clearly a general manager who's willing to take massive swings. And he has hit on the Kyrie move. It's been a hit. He hit on the trade deadline move. Uh, there's there's things here. I see Luca is being made out as the perfect player, and there's a there's a little shack a prodigy. But the Lakers eventually said we're gonna take that works harder. I would not have made the trade. I don't like the trade, but I but I get the Mbid. The Kawhi, the injuries, the lack of conditioning, these new Max contract extensions seventy four million a year. What really bothers me, though, is the lack of resources they got back. Because I love Anthony Davis. I think he's a very good player. He's not offensively Luca, but he's a much better defensive player, and he's older. But the lack of resources is unbelievable. They got one draft pick, Rudy Gobert got four, Kevin Durant got something like nine. One draft pick, And if you're totally concerned about health and availability, then why trade for Anthony Davis. It's it's there were much better trade partners than the Lakers, and they they traded it in a vacuum. It's like they didn't tell anybody it was one team, one first round pick. That's unforgivable. It's not even like they traded him, it's like they discarded him. He's like an old surfboard by somebody who's lived at the beach for twenty years and bought a new one. Like, I don't even understand it. Here's Nico Harrison. It's the resources and the lack of return that to me just say it out loud, sounds like an awful move. Here's Jason Kidd and Nico Harrison.

He made that big move at the trade deadline last year. It got him into the finals. He's taken big swings. He's different. But this feels like an absolutely egregiously bad moves. So why did he make the move? Well, let's start with this. I think the reason that Michael Jordan is the most popular basketball player of all time. Kobe Bryant's up there too, is that relentlessness, that work ethic. It's not Luca. He's often in poor shape and is a lousy defender, and he's hurt increasingly more and more and more due to his bad conditioning. So there's a little shack in Luca. And the Lakers moved off Shack, right, They had a choice. They took Kobe the relentless worker. So is that the reason they moved off him? The Maverick owners are staring down the barrel of seventy four million dollars a year contract, and he doesn't defend. He's hard on teammates, but won't play defense. There's a little barkley, there's a little shack. He's not the hardest worker. The max contract now is punitive if you get the wrong guy. Maybe the owners look at Embiid's mess and Philly or the Kawhi saga with the Clippers and said, new owners, no, thank you, not interested. Now. That does not give you an excuse to give away Luca for one first round pick. But I do think if there would have been three first round picks, Anthony Davis and maybe in Austin Reeves. Okay, I should we consider that phone call. I can make some sense of it because I don't think Luca is the perfect player. He has now had three calf injuries in four years, same calf, hasn't played since Christmas, missed the last two training camps. There's stuff here and clearly a general manager who's willing to take massive swings. And he has hit on the Kyrie move. It's been a hit. He hit on the trade deadline move. Uh, there's there's things here. I see Luca is being made out as the perfect player, and there's a there's a little shack a prodigy. But the Lakers eventually said we're gonna take that works harder. I would not have made the trade. I don't like the trade, but I but I get the Mbid. The Kawhi, the injuries, the lack of conditioning, these new Max contract extensions seventy four million a year. What really bothers me, though, is the lack of resources they got back. Because I love Anthony Davis. I think he's a very good player. He's not offensively Luca, but he's a much better defensive player, and he's older. But the lack of resources is unbelievable. They got one draft pick, Rudy Gobert got four, Kevin Durant got something like nine. One draft pick, And if you're totally concerned about health and availability, then why trade for Anthony Davis. It's it's there were much better trade partners than the Lakers, and they they traded it in a vacuum. It's like they didn't tell anybody it was one team, one first round pick. That's unforgivable. It's not even like they traded him, it's like they discarded him. He's like an old surfboard by somebody who's lived at the beach for twenty years and bought a new one. Like, I don't even understand it. Here's Nico Harrison. It's the resources and the lack of return that to me just say it out loud, sounds like an awful move. Here's Jason Kidd and Nico Harrison.

As we turn the page.

As we turn the page.

I think it's important to know that jakek and I we've had a vision in the culture that we want to create since we've been here, and the players that we're bringing in we believe exemplify that. And you know, we think defense wins championships and we're bringing in one of the best two way players in the league.

I think it's important to know that jakek and I we've had a vision in the culture that we want to create since we've been here, and the players that we're bringing in we believe exemplify that. And you know, we think defense wins championships and we're bringing in one of the best two way players in the league.

It is a little shocking, but like in the sense, we have to push forward as an organization. As a team, we have a game to play and we have to be pros about it. But we understand what Luca has meant to the Mavericks that we wish him and his family the best in La also Maxie and Smooth. But we have to push forward and we believe we have a team that can do that.

It is a little shocking, but like in the sense, we have to push forward as an organization. As a team, we have a game to play and we have to be pros about it. But we understand what Luca has meant to the Mavericks that we wish him and his family the best in La also Maxie and Smooth. But we have to push forward and we believe we have a team that can do that.

All right, there's three primary reasons the Lakers stole him. Number One, he's twenty five. He Dalton connect is twenty four. This guy's barely in the league. He is just a new kid. He's twenty five years old, He's already got fifty playoff games, and he's so gifted offensively. He's never really been pushed because he's been so good playing in Europe forever. Number two is he finally lands with a legend in Lebron James. And I mean, let's be honest about this. Lebron is so dedicated that he has forced quirky players before Anthony Davis was soft and J. R. Smith was squirrely and Kyrie Irving was high maintenance and he got him to work. And number three is the Lakers are aspirational franchise with statues everywhere in the building. And the bottom line here is, I think we're going to get a more dedicated Luca.

All right, there's three primary reasons the Lakers stole him. Number One, he's twenty five. He Dalton connect is twenty four. This guy's barely in the league. He is just a new kid. He's twenty five years old, He's already got fifty playoff games, and he's so gifted offensively. He's never really been pushed because he's been so good playing in Europe forever. Number two is he finally lands with a legend in Lebron James. And I mean, let's be honest about this. Lebron is so dedicated that he has forced quirky players before Anthony Davis was soft and J. R. Smith was squirrely and Kyrie Irving was high maintenance and he got him to work. And number three is the Lakers are aspirational franchise with statues everywhere in the building. And the bottom line here is, I think we're going to get a more dedicated Luca.

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Every time I have a big game, I take off the yellow pad and I give you my favorite ten players in the game, the ten best players. And it's tough because I'll just tell you Travis Kelsey doesn't make it. It's not because he couldn't be the MVP, but I just don't see it happening. So here we go. Here's who I believe the ten best players in this game, and number one is not a big shock. I think it'st Patrick Mahomes, who was not necessarily great against Houston. But I've said this with mj there are certain players in these big moments that are not burdened by pressure. It's almost as if Mahomes needs the playoff intensity to elevate himself. Nine consecutive postseason wins, he's number one. I think number two it's the historic Saquon Barkley. When he went to Philadelphia with that old line, we said, folks, the Giants have just made a franchise mistake. That is egregious. Fourteen games this year with one hundred plus rush yards. Now, obviously some of that is the offensive line. He's just different. He's just a different player. You know, running backs are hard to describe because all the great ones have had stylistically kind of a different bent speed, ability to make you miss jump over through Saquon Barkley at two. I would put Chris Jones number three. When you're a defensive lineman and can move anywhere on the defensive line and you're unblockable on the end, you're unblockable on the interior. He was the highest graded interior defensive lineman this season, including the playoffs. You know, remember when they weren't sure if they were going to pay Chris Jones, and I believe the future of the NFL you're seeing this a lot. His teams will pay one great defensive lineman, but pay most of the money on offense. Chris is number three for me. Number four is I think Jalen Carter is virtually unblockable. He's not Chris Jones in terms of consistency yet, but he led the team in pressures, tackles for loss, quarterbacks, hits, and he's got an Aaron Donald vibe, which you have to start your offensive game plan with. Okay, how do we get Jalen Carter out of the picture. I'd put him at four. Jordan Malatta, the highest credit offensive tackle, I would put him at five. We'll get to Tuney in a second. I would put Jordan Malatta, who was the highest credited tackle in the regular season. Now, listen, Philadelphia's offensive line. They do offensive lines really, really well, and so you could do multiple players on this, including Lane Johnson. But I think you know, only two sacks allowed this year, and only one during the regular season in five hundred opportunities to pass block, so and you remember you're blocking the best athlete some would say on the defense. Number six Joe Toney, he's the best pass blocking left guard in football. Again, when Kansas City went and spent that money in New England, right and they went and bought him, everybody said, WHOA, that is a lot for a guard. Well, they moved this guy due to injuries out to left tackle. He's elite at left tackle as well, and I do believe that Tooney and the ability to protect Mahomes. Mahomes only lost one game ugly in his life, in the playoffs when he didn't get protection against Tom Brady and Tampa. I think number seven is a J. Brown. Again, you sometimes forget how good Phillies wide receivers are because they're such a power run game. But he was top ten in misstackles and I think his physicality is really important because I think Kansas City is the best tackling team in the league. That's just an eye test. I don't have data to back that up, but AJ Brown is number seven. Eight Trent McDuffie, Kansas City tremendous corner second highest graded cornerback during the regular season again, they're gonna put him. They're gonna put him on AJ Brown and say, I mean, I think you have to with Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard. Getta have to have some one on one matchups and that's one Kansas City has to win. I would put Zach Baughn at nine. The guy's unbelievable. He was a special teams player. He's tremendous in coverage. I think he's one of the surprise players of the year in pass coverage this year. This is such a great stat He's allowed a sixty nine passer rating. That's about as good as a linebacker can do. And number ten Jalen Hurts. Again, when you put pressure on Jalen Hurts, he regresses significantly. But here's the thing, it's hard to get pressure on Jalen Hurts because of the old line in the run game. So there you have my top ten. I think it comes out to four Chiefs and six Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Goddard. I mean, there's a lot of people I'm leaving out unbelievable corners for Philadelphia Mitchell. I mean, again, there's sixteen guys here who should.

Every time I have a big game, I take off the yellow pad and I give you my favorite ten players in the game, the ten best players. And it's tough because I'll just tell you Travis Kelsey doesn't make it. It's not because he couldn't be the MVP, but I just don't see it happening. So here we go. Here's who I believe the ten best players in this game, and number one is not a big shock. I think it'st Patrick Mahomes, who was not necessarily great against Houston. But I've said this with mj there are certain players in these big moments that are not burdened by pressure. It's almost as if Mahomes needs the playoff intensity to elevate himself. Nine consecutive postseason wins, he's number one. I think number two it's the historic Saquon Barkley. When he went to Philadelphia with that old line, we said, folks, the Giants have just made a franchise mistake. That is egregious. Fourteen games this year with one hundred plus rush yards. Now, obviously some of that is the offensive line. He's just different. He's just a different player. You know, running backs are hard to describe because all the great ones have had stylistically kind of a different bent speed, ability to make you miss jump over through Saquon Barkley at two. I would put Chris Jones number three. When you're a defensive lineman and can move anywhere on the defensive line and you're unblockable on the end, you're unblockable on the interior. He was the highest graded interior defensive lineman this season, including the playoffs. You know, remember when they weren't sure if they were going to pay Chris Jones, and I believe the future of the NFL you're seeing this a lot. His teams will pay one great defensive lineman, but pay most of the money on offense. Chris is number three for me. Number four is I think Jalen Carter is virtually unblockable. He's not Chris Jones in terms of consistency yet, but he led the team in pressures, tackles for loss, quarterbacks, hits, and he's got an Aaron Donald vibe, which you have to start your offensive game plan with. Okay, how do we get Jalen Carter out of the picture. I'd put him at four. Jordan Malatta, the highest credit offensive tackle, I would put him at five. We'll get to Tuney in a second. I would put Jordan Malatta, who was the highest credited tackle in the regular season. Now, listen, Philadelphia's offensive line. They do offensive lines really, really well, and so you could do multiple players on this, including Lane Johnson. But I think you know, only two sacks allowed this year, and only one during the regular season in five hundred opportunities to pass block, so and you remember you're blocking the best athlete some would say on the defense. Number six Joe Toney, he's the best pass blocking left guard in football. Again, when Kansas City went and spent that money in New England, right and they went and bought him, everybody said, WHOA, that is a lot for a guard. Well, they moved this guy due to injuries out to left tackle. He's elite at left tackle as well, and I do believe that Tooney and the ability to protect Mahomes. Mahomes only lost one game ugly in his life, in the playoffs when he didn't get protection against Tom Brady and Tampa. I think number seven is a J. Brown. Again, you sometimes forget how good Phillies wide receivers are because they're such a power run game. But he was top ten in misstackles and I think his physicality is really important because I think Kansas City is the best tackling team in the league. That's just an eye test. I don't have data to back that up, but AJ Brown is number seven. Eight Trent McDuffie, Kansas City tremendous corner second highest graded cornerback during the regular season again, they're gonna put him. They're gonna put him on AJ Brown and say, I mean, I think you have to with Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard. Getta have to have some one on one matchups and that's one Kansas City has to win. I would put Zach Baughn at nine. The guy's unbelievable. He was a special teams player. He's tremendous in coverage. I think he's one of the surprise players of the year in pass coverage this year. This is such a great stat He's allowed a sixty nine passer rating. That's about as good as a linebacker can do. And number ten Jalen Hurts. Again, when you put pressure on Jalen Hurts, he regresses significantly. But here's the thing, it's hard to get pressure on Jalen Hurts because of the old line in the run game. So there you have my top ten. I think it comes out to four Chiefs and six Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Goddard. I mean, there's a lot of people I'm leaving out unbelievable corners for Philadelphia Mitchell. I mean, again, there's sixteen guys here who should.

Make the list.

Make the list.

But a couple of years ago. I did this with San Francisco and Kansas City, and I got the same dilemma. There's hall of famers that may not make the list. Travis Kelsey could be the MVP of the game, or we could have two capses.

But a couple of years ago. I did this with San Francisco and Kansas City, and I got the same dilemma. There's hall of famers that may not make the list. Travis Kelsey could be the MVP of the game, or we could have two capses.

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That's Covino and Rich.

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Drew Brees twenty years in the NFL, fifteen years here.

Drew Brees twenty years in the NFL, fifteen years here.

In New Orleans.

In New Orleans.

That that is interesting. You're you have an encyclopedic memory and knowledge of this stuff. But go back to your Super Bowl week. You obviously you have extra time, you have Sean Payton, you put stuff in? Did you take stuff out? Or did you go into your Super Bowl Drew with just more plays than you've never had in your life.

That that is interesting. You're you have an encyclopedic memory and knowledge of this stuff. But go back to your Super Bowl week. You obviously you have extra time, you have Sean Payton, you put stuff in? Did you take stuff out? Or did you go into your Super Bowl Drew with just more plays than you've never had in your life.

No, I don't remember the volume being an issue of that week because you know, quite honestly, the Colts, the Colts defense, which wasn't that complicated, you know, that was that was back in at the time when they were very much like Tampa two and We're just going to allow our pass rushers Dwight Freeney and Robert mathis to get after you, right, and man, we've got we've got good players in the secondary that are just going to keep it in front of them, and we're just going to kind of manage the game because we know we have a high scoring offense, you know, on the other side.

No, I don't remember the volume being an issue of that week because you know, quite honestly, the Colts, the Colts defense, which wasn't that complicated, you know, that was that was back in at the time when they were very much like Tampa two and We're just going to allow our pass rushers Dwight Freeney and Robert mathis to get after you, right, and man, we've got we've got good players in the secondary that are just going to keep it in front of them, and we're just going to kind of manage the game because we know we have a high scoring offense, you know, on the other side.

So I don't remember the volume.

So I don't remember the volume.

Being an issue necessarily as far as the volume of plays in the game plan.

Being an issue necessarily as far as the volume of plays in the game plan.

It was more so I think for us, like our success we.

It was more so I think for us, like our success we.

Knew was number one, we need to steal a possession in this game, right, which we did at the start of the of the second half, right with that on side kick that we called ambush. But it was it was really more so like how do we create a rhythm, you know with our offense against these guys, and and a level of patience because look, we were a big play offense too. We were used to you know, kind of those you know, big play shots down the field, and I think we just recognized, hey, these guys don't really give that to us.

Knew was number one, we need to steal a possession in this game, right, which we did at the start of the of the second half, right with that on side kick that we called ambush. But it was it was really more so like how do we create a rhythm, you know with our offense against these guys, and and a level of patience because look, we were a big play offense too. We were used to you know, kind of those you know, big play shots down the field, and I think we just recognized, hey, these guys don't really give that to us.

So we're gonna have to run the ball effectively. We're gonna hit them.

So we're gonna have to run the ball effectively. We're gonna hit them.

With the screen game to try to slow down the pass rush, and then we're just gonna be methodical with the passing game, which we were super efficient to.

With the screen game to try to slow down the pass rush, and then we're just gonna be methodical with the passing game, which we were super efficient to.

Pass the game.

Pass the game.

And oh, by the way, what that does is it also chews up the clock and it keeps one of the best players in the world off the field on the other side, in Peyton Manning. So quite honestly, like I see that very much like what the Philadelphia's game plan should be against the Chiefs this week, which is run the ball, possess the ball, chew up the clock, wear down that defense, and keep the best player in the world, Patrick Holmes off the field on the other side.

And oh, by the way, what that does is it also chews up the clock and it keeps one of the best players in the world off the field on the other side, in Peyton Manning. So quite honestly, like I see that very much like what the Philadelphia's game plan should be against the Chiefs this week, which is run the ball, possess the ball, chew up the clock, wear down that defense, and keep the best player in the world, Patrick Holmes off the field on the other side.

You know, it's interesting because I would think a guy like you and you mentioned Peyton Manning, both of you very cerebral. I would think short weeks would drive you crazy and you would love an extra day or a buy or Super Bowl because you could just fill your brain with more information.

You know, it's interesting because I would think a guy like you and you mentioned Peyton Manning, both of you very cerebral. I would think short weeks would drive you crazy and you would love an extra day or a buy or Super Bowl because you could just fill your brain with more information.

So to you.

So to you.

Extra time, like to you, was it a kid in the candy store. It's like, hey, I got more time to like exercise efficiency. How did you limit it?

Extra time, like to you, was it a kid in the candy store. It's like, hey, I got more time to like exercise efficiency. How did you limit it?

Well, sometimes too much time results in over analysis, right right, and then and then it's paralysis by over analysis, right. So, like, honestly, I felt like we had a great plan, which was hey, two weeks prior to the Super Bowl. So the first week honestly a lot of just good on good competition with our team, Like we really didn't get into a lot of the game planning for the Indianapolis Colts. Yes we were watching film, and yes we were starting to have an idea of you know how we were going to attack them, But we did not install our game plan against the Colts in the week prior to the Super Bowl. We waited until we actually got to Miami, which is where we played it.

Well, sometimes too much time results in over analysis, right right, and then and then it's paralysis by over analysis, right. So, like, honestly, I felt like we had a great plan, which was hey, two weeks prior to the Super Bowl. So the first week honestly a lot of just good on good competition with our team, Like we really didn't get into a lot of the game planning for the Indianapolis Colts. Yes we were watching film, and yes we were starting to have an idea of you know how we were going to attack them, But we did not install our game plan against the Colts in the week prior to the Super Bowl. We waited until we actually got to Miami, which is where we played it.

And we because we wanted to. We wanted to have as normal a work week as possible, right, Like.

And we because we wanted to. We wanted to have as normal a work week as possible, right, Like.

That's the that's the toughest thing about the Super Bowl is.

That's the that's the toughest thing about the Super Bowl is.

How do you make the Super Bowl a normal work week?

How do you make the Super Bowl a normal work week?

You're in a foreign place, practicing in a different facility that you have to bust to. You're in a hotel where there's all kinds of chaos going on, Like how do you order the chaos?

You're in a foreign place, practicing in a different facility that you have to bust to. You're in a hotel where there's all kinds of chaos going on, Like how do you order the chaos?

How do you create some normalcy in a routine?

How do you create some normalcy in a routine?

And so we did like good on good competitive.

And so we did like good on good competitive.

Man weight room.

Man weight room.

That was like our first week, right, and then the minute we arrived in Miami, it was like, all right, here we go, flip the switch game plan, Wednesday's base, Thursday's third Day, Friday's red zone, shortyardage, goal line, Saturday, Hay's in the barn Man quick walk through, job through boot. We got it in our mind. Let's go win a football game.

That was like our first week, right, and then the minute we arrived in Miami, it was like, all right, here we go, flip the switch game plan, Wednesday's base, Thursday's third Day, Friday's red zone, shortyardage, goal line, Saturday, Hay's in the barn Man quick walk through, job through boot. We got it in our mind. Let's go win a football game.

You know, it's interesting. Brady and Hasselbeck both talked about this on the show, and this is what has always been fascinating is that you guys watched so much film and Hasselbeck talked about homegrun adding something late in the week. Brady came on and said, we added, we placed that Seahawk team that had no weaknesses. We came up with three new plays the night before just because he goes, I didn't trust our red zone packages. Did Sean with you, Drew say, listen, I found something on tape, or did you say, you know, Sean, we got to clean something up. Anything Saturday night happened.

You know, it's interesting. Brady and Hasselbeck both talked about this on the show, and this is what has always been fascinating is that you guys watched so much film and Hasselbeck talked about homegrun adding something late in the week. Brady came on and said, we added, we placed that Seahawk team that had no weaknesses. We came up with three new plays the night before just because he goes, I didn't trust our red zone packages. Did Sean with you, Drew say, listen, I found something on tape, or did you say, you know, Sean, we got to clean something up. Anything Saturday night happened.

Yeah, it would from time to time, and a lot of that was just you know, Sean and my routine of guy I would always go back on Saturday morning, which was again our just kind of walk through day, you know, walk through the game plan. The first fifteen place of the game, you know, kind of hit some red zone.

Yeah, it would from time to time, and a lot of that was just you know, Sean and my routine of guy I would always go back on Saturday morning, which was again our just kind of walk through day, you know, walk through the game plan. The first fifteen place of the game, you know, kind of hit some red zone.

Third down thoughts.

Third down thoughts.

I would watch a couple games on Saturday morning more so just to kind of go back and just like feel the flow and the rhythm of a game and maybe how some other teams that attacked them. And again, it was just it was very relaxed, but it was and in that moment you would just kind of be looking at it through a different lens at that point, because you were kind of, you know, past what you thought was the game planning thing, but all of a sudden you would see something like just a little like oh wow, I feel like, you know, this may be a good opportunity or off of this look, maybe a great opportunity to run a little stutter and go on that corner, or a double move on this linebacker with the running back, or you know, just something and it at that point though, it had to be like a game changing thing, like we didn't need another play that was gonna get us a five to ten yard completion. We wanted to play that was like, oh no, this is a shot opportunity. This is a big play opportunity, like game winner opportunity.

I would watch a couple games on Saturday morning more so just to kind of go back and just like feel the flow and the rhythm of a game and maybe how some other teams that attacked them. And again, it was just it was very relaxed, but it was and in that moment you would just kind of be looking at it through a different lens at that point, because you were kind of, you know, past what you thought was the game planning thing, but all of a sudden you would see something like just a little like oh wow, I feel like, you know, this may be a good opportunity or off of this look, maybe a great opportunity to run a little stutter and go on that corner, or a double move on this linebacker with the running back, or you know, just something and it at that point though, it had to be like a game changing thing, like we didn't need another play that was gonna get us a five to ten yard completion. We wanted to play that was like, oh no, this is a shot opportunity. This is a big play opportunity, like game winner opportunity.

So yeah, we had a couple of those.

So yeah, we had a couple of those.

In fact, we were playing Monday night football against the Miami Dolphins twenty thirteen. Night before the game, we had this little h choice with Darren Sprolls where he's.

In fact, we were playing Monday night football against the Miami Dolphins twenty thirteen. Night before the game, we had this little h choice with Darren Sprolls where he's.

Just gonna kind of run up five yards. He's got a three way go.

Just gonna kind of run up five yards. He's got a three way go.

But I'm like, man, this backer is just so aggressive, like on film time after time, and he's gonna see that and he's just gonna be sitting all over and it's like, hey, Sean, what if we just double move this guy like right off the bat, you know, and just like set the tone early. Sure enough, second play of the game, we run this. We put it in literally the night before, and man, it works like a.

But I'm like, man, this backer is just so aggressive, like on film time after time, and he's gonna see that and he's just gonna be sitting all over and it's like, hey, Sean, what if we just double move this guy like right off the bat, you know, and just like set the tone early. Sure enough, second play of the game, we run this. We put it in literally the night before, and man, it works like a.

Charm forty yard completion.

Charm forty yard completion.

And that's when you're kind of that's when you're kind of looking at the sideline live.

And that's when you're kind of that's when you're kind of looking at the sideline live.

Yeah, we got it.

Yeah, we got it.

You know. I run a survey it must have been fifteen years ago and they were talking about the most unique cities in the country, and New Orleans was number one. They said, the vibe, the food, the people. To be the Saints quarterback here for fifteen years, it's not like being a quarterback nothing against Seattle or Baltimore. But I mean, what is it like? This is such a simple question, but in one of the most unique American cities. What is it like, What do you remember about being the Saints quarterback for fifteen years? What sticks to you?

You know. I run a survey it must have been fifteen years ago and they were talking about the most unique cities in the country, and New Orleans was number one. They said, the vibe, the food, the people. To be the Saints quarterback here for fifteen years, it's not like being a quarterback nothing against Seattle or Baltimore. But I mean, what is it like? This is such a simple question, but in one of the most unique American cities. What is it like, What do you remember about being the Saints quarterback for fifteen years? What sticks to you?

Well, I think I think the thing that sticks out most to me is that the community of New Orleans they were more fans of New Orleans than they even were, or they were first fans of New Orleans, then they were fans of the Saints. Like in other words, when you walked around town, it wasn't like ghost Saints or thanks.

Well, I think I think the thing that sticks out most to me is that the community of New Orleans they were more fans of New Orleans than they even were, or they were first fans of New Orleans, then they were fans of the Saints. Like in other words, when you walked around town, it wasn't like ghost Saints or thanks.

For what you do for the team. It was like, eh, thanks for loving this city.

For what you do for the team. It was like, eh, thanks for loving this city.

So it just it just gave you this feeling that, man, we were all in this whole effort together, and like people appreciate the fact that my wife Brittany and I lived right in the heart of the city, like righting uptown New Orleans, and that we'd be walking the dog in the park just like everybody else. But we'd be you know, having gumbo down at you know, the local spot. You're just like everybody else, right Like, there was just this feeling of man, they're just they're just like us, you know, and they want to be just like us, and they're just part of this community and part of this Society and like that was what was so unique about about this place.

So it just it just gave you this feeling that, man, we were all in this whole effort together, and like people appreciate the fact that my wife Brittany and I lived right in the heart of the city, like righting uptown New Orleans, and that we'd be walking the dog in the park just like everybody else. But we'd be you know, having gumbo down at you know, the local spot. You're just like everybody else, right Like, there was just this feeling of man, they're just they're just like us, you know, and they want to be just like us, and they're just part of this community and part of this Society and like that was what was so unique about about this place.

Finally, where do I get one of those sweet Crown Royal jackets you're wearing? Can you get me one of those drow.

Finally, where do I get one of those sweet Crown Royal jackets you're wearing? Can you get me one of those drow.

You know what?

You know what?

I'm glad you asked, Colin, Really, buddy, I got one here.

I'm glad you asked, Colin, Really, buddy, I got one here.

I got one here right man. Look at this sat a satin starter jacket.

I got one here right man. Look at this sat a satin starter jacket.

We got NFL Crown Royal and this is incredible partnership with Crown Royal. They've been a huge benefactor to our foundation, helping us with all of our efforts here in New Orleans, something to build affordable housing, job skills training, build healthcare facilities around around the state. And they're doing a ton of things here during Super Bowl Week, donating a lot.

We got NFL Crown Royal and this is incredible partnership with Crown Royal. They've been a huge benefactor to our foundation, helping us with all of our efforts here in New Orleans, something to build affordable housing, job skills training, build healthcare facilities around around the state. And they're doing a ton of things here during Super Bowl Week, donating a lot.

Of money to the Foundation for Louisiana.

Of money to the Foundation for Louisiana.

They've got a pop up down in the quarter selling the jackets, all the proceeds going the foundation. They got the Crown Rule rig in town that people can go check out and pack backs for military to be able to send overseas. So Crown Rule is doing a ton of great stuff. They've been what four years, the official whiskey of the NFL. So really appreciate their support of the Foundation supported Orleans.

They've got a pop up down in the quarter selling the jackets, all the proceeds going the foundation. They got the Crown Rule rig in town that people can go check out and pack backs for military to be able to send overseas. So Crown Rule is doing a ton of great stuff. They've been what four years, the official whiskey of the NFL. So really appreciate their support of the Foundation supported Orleans.

And I really appreciate that jacket, Buddy, I really, you know, won for the time.

And I really appreciate that jacket, Buddy, I really, you know, won for the time.

I appreciate it's a sharp it's a sharp jacket. It's got the Super Bowl fifty nine logo on the back.

I appreciate it's a sharp it's a sharp jacket. It's got the Super Bowl fifty nine logo on the back.

So now you have you looking clean, all right.

So now you have you looking clean, all right.

Drew, Great thing as always, man. I really appreciate your insight.

Drew, Great thing as always, man. I really appreciate your insight.

This year, Bud.

This year, Bud.

Yeah, yeah, I love this year. Spend time with you.

Yeah, yeah, I love this year. Spend time with you.

Thanks calling all right, Drew Brees. That's a great story that people came up to him and thanks for loving New Orleans, and that really is I remember reading the survey eight years ago and they said there's no city quite like it. And I had a friend who played in that division at Tampa for years and he said, going to New Orleans, whether the Saints were good, and that was pre Drew Brees. He said, it was always different. It was always a little louder, the crowd was a little more lubricated. If it was a late afternoon game, it was. It was a completely different environment. I went to an LSU game years ago when Nick Saban coached LSU and they played Oregon State, and a lightning like hit right next to the stadium and it was crazy weather and Oregon State almost beat Nick Saban. It was JaMarcus Russell, I think was LSU's quarterback. And I can remember, and I'm serious, I can remember smelling bourbon in the tailgate. I never experienced anything quite like in LSU tailgate And it was a wild game, and young Nick Saban was at LSU and Oregon State for about a half almost pulled off the upset.

Thanks calling all right, Drew Brees. That's a great story that people came up to him and thanks for loving New Orleans, and that really is I remember reading the survey eight years ago and they said there's no city quite like it. And I had a friend who played in that division at Tampa for years and he said, going to New Orleans, whether the Saints were good, and that was pre Drew Brees. He said, it was always different. It was always a little louder, the crowd was a little more lubricated. If it was a late afternoon game, it was. It was a completely different environment. I went to an LSU game years ago when Nick Saban coached LSU and they played Oregon State, and a lightning like hit right next to the stadium and it was crazy weather and Oregon State almost beat Nick Saban. It was JaMarcus Russell, I think was LSU's quarterback. And I can remember, and I'm serious, I can remember smelling bourbon in the tailgate. I never experienced anything quite like in LSU tailgate And it was a wild game, and young Nick Saban was at LSU and Oregon State for about a half almost pulled off the upset.

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A time Super Bowl champ and a one time MVP, Julian Edelman now joining us on the set Fox NFL Sundays. I always think it's fascinating to talk to you in moments like this because this game's I've had so many pros tell me. There's regular season games, there's playoff games, and then this is the flash light flashball game. Like, is different? Go to your first series of every Super Bowl? Even for you, I mean we're even in New England. Practices were intense. Yeah, is the first series different?

A time Super Bowl champ and a one time MVP, Julian Edelman now joining us on the set Fox NFL Sundays. I always think it's fascinating to talk to you in moments like this because this game's I've had so many pros tell me. There's regular season games, there's playoff games, and then this is the flash light flashball game. Like, is different? Go to your first series of every Super Bowl? Even for you, I mean we're even in New England. Practices were intense. Yeah, is the first series different?

Is there?

Is there?

I mean?

I mean?

Michael Irvin said in warm up the first time, like couldn't feel his legs is different.

Michael Irvin said in warm up the first time, like couldn't feel his legs is different.

It is very different. The lights are brighter, and early in my career they still had the flashes. So I used to play on kickoff team and remember you see those epic shots of all the flashes from the first kickoff for the Super Bowl, and that first drive is one of those feel like we gotta get We can't dip our toe. We got to dive into the water type drives where anytime we had a force block. I remember the first time going and blocking Cam Chancellor and like the first play, I would always go in and try to light someone up to clear the cobwebs. Everyone's a little nervous, everyone's thinking about stuff. It's the first play of the game. I remember I went in and lit up, tried to light up Cam Chancellor and he felt like a rooted tree and it was a big hit and it kind of stumbled me. But like after that, I was like, all right, my feet are wet, I'm ready to go. And I do think for receivers getting the ball early. You know, after two week prep, you know it's a four hour game. You've been through Opening night, you've been through media night. There's been so many logistics you've had to cover from taking care of your friends, your family, all the distractions. Getting something early is like, all right, we're involved, now we can get going.

It is very different. The lights are brighter, and early in my career they still had the flashes. So I used to play on kickoff team and remember you see those epic shots of all the flashes from the first kickoff for the Super Bowl, and that first drive is one of those feel like we gotta get We can't dip our toe. We got to dive into the water type drives where anytime we had a force block. I remember the first time going and blocking Cam Chancellor and like the first play, I would always go in and try to light someone up to clear the cobwebs. Everyone's a little nervous, everyone's thinking about stuff. It's the first play of the game. I remember I went in and lit up, tried to light up Cam Chancellor and he felt like a rooted tree and it was a big hit and it kind of stumbled me. But like after that, I was like, all right, my feet are wet, I'm ready to go. And I do think for receivers getting the ball early. You know, after two week prep, you know it's a four hour game. You've been through Opening night, you've been through media night. There's been so many logistics you've had to cover from taking care of your friends, your family, all the distractions. Getting something early is like, all right, we're involved, now we can get going.

So I agree this game is different.

So I agree this game is different.

Everyone's a little bit healthier because of the extra week off. Everyone's a lot more prepared because you have two weeks to prep for guys, and it's a whole nother speed. There's no saving the gas like you saved the gas a little bit here and there in the regular season, because it's a long season.

Everyone's a little bit healthier because of the extra week off. Everyone's a lot more prepared because you have two weeks to prep for guys, and it's a whole nother speed. There's no saving the gas like you saved the gas a little bit here and there in the regular season, because it's a long season.

Here, when you have.

Here, when you have.

Professional athletes that are big, fast and strong, playing relentless, it's a different game.

Professional athletes that are big, fast and strong, playing relentless, it's a different game.

I asked Michael this about Jimmy Johnson. I'll ask you the same question with Belichick. You've often told me that Bill was so good on Saturday nights. Tom said, this just buttoning stuff up. What is the pregame speech for a Super Bowl?

I asked Michael this about Jimmy Johnson. I'll ask you the same question with Belichick. You've often told me that Bill was so good on Saturday nights. Tom said, this just buttoning stuff up. What is the pregame speech for a Super Bowl?

The pregame speech for the Super Bowl?

The pregame speech for the Super Bowl?

It changed every year, but the one that sticks out was fourteen, when we went ten years without winning a Super Bowl. It was kind of like our generation of Patriots first go at it, and he went on this big speech.

It changed every year, but the one that sticks out was fourteen, when we went ten years without winning a Super Bowl. It was kind of like our generation of Patriots first go at it, and he went on this big speech.

Of everyone's here for a reason.

Of everyone's here for a reason.

The Rob Nikovich's that were long snappers, the Devin mccordy's that weren't first round draft picks, me who was a quarterback, the Tom Brady who was getting old. Everyone was kind of like a misfit or an outcast at that time.

The Rob Nikovich's that were long snappers, the Devin mccordy's that weren't first round draft picks, me who was a quarterback, the Tom Brady who was getting old. Everyone was kind of like a misfit or an outcast at that time.

They couldn't get over the hump.

They couldn't get over the hump.

And he just reminded us like, we're all here for a reason, and let's make that reason for a win. So you know, it was nothing like It wasn't like al Pacino in any given Sunday.

And he just reminded us like, we're all here for a reason, and let's make that reason for a win. So you know, it was nothing like It wasn't like al Pacino in any given Sunday.

It was subtle, and he would show clips and.

It was subtle, and he would show clips and.

Highlights of guys in college and guys that, you know, pivotal pieces of the team, the James Whites, the Shane Vereens, those guys. He would show everyone like, this is our reason why we're here, just to you know, And it did get you fired up and you get all get all fiery, and then you had to go to two hour walk through.

Highlights of guys in college and guys that, you know, pivotal pieces of the team, the James Whites, the Shane Vereens, those guys. He would show everyone like, this is our reason why we're here, just to you know, And it did get you fired up and you get all get all fiery, and then you had to go to two hour walk through.

But you know, it was good. It was good.

But you know, it was good. It was good.

Strangely, despite all the components, You guys were a slow first quarter Super Bowl team. Were the plays scripted?

Strangely, despite all the components, You guys were a slow first quarter Super Bowl team. Were the plays scripted?

Or I?

Or I?

And I always think Bill had such confidence in his culture and system that he wouldn't mind. It's like all Lee in his prime. I'm gonna feel this puppy out. I'm knock gonna on low the exotics. Why did you guys start so slowly?

And I always think Bill had such confidence in his culture and system that he wouldn't mind. It's like all Lee in his prime. I'm gonna feel this puppy out. I'm knock gonna on low the exotics. Why did you guys start so slowly?

I think it's it's it's a very hard game to get a rhythm in. There's longer commercials, there's more commercials, there's an anticipation by everyone because of the two weeks I mean and all everything that how big they make this event, Like you feel that in the first few drives. And then also I think, uh, he would always say it's a you gotta wait for the game to declare. So guys, there's gonna be a point in the either the first quarter, the second quarter, or we're on our script and we're gonna have to adjust to the adjustments and the game is going to declare. I just remember him always saying that. And then and yeah, we go in with a somewhat of a scripted not a West Coast twenty five plays script, but we'd have like certain plays that we knew we wanted to run here and there, and it was always kind of like, all right, we'll see how they're playing this play because we have a counter to this play. Okay, is the d N is he slooping on this thing? Is he coming out, how's he playing, how's this often, how's.

I think it's it's it's a very hard game to get a rhythm in. There's longer commercials, there's more commercials, there's an anticipation by everyone because of the two weeks I mean and all everything that how big they make this event, Like you feel that in the first few drives. And then also I think, uh, he would always say it's a you gotta wait for the game to declare. So guys, there's gonna be a point in the either the first quarter, the second quarter, or we're on our script and we're gonna have to adjust to the adjustments and the game is going to declare. I just remember him always saying that. And then and yeah, we go in with a somewhat of a scripted not a West Coast twenty five plays script, but we'd have like certain plays that we knew we wanted to run here and there, and it was always kind of like, all right, we'll see how they're playing this play because we have a counter to this play. Okay, is the d N is he slooping on this thing? Is he coming out, how's he playing, how's this often, how's.

This coverage going.

This coverage going.

So it's a lot of feeling each other out, seeing what the game plan, what they've been working on, any wrinkles, and it's just one of those things where we're driving the ball. A couple times we threw you know, we fumbled it or picked it just once again. A lot of nerves going to that first drive, lackarhythm because of all the lengthy timeouts and just guys just trying to feel what the game is gonna be.

So it's a lot of feeling each other out, seeing what the game plan, what they've been working on, any wrinkles, and it's just one of those things where we're driving the ball. A couple times we threw you know, we fumbled it or picked it just once again. A lot of nerves going to that first drive, lackarhythm because of all the lengthy timeouts and just guys just trying to feel what the game is gonna be.

You. You hear a lot the critics of Chiefs fatigue, and I think the ultimate compliment. I remember this with the Jordan rules and Shaq and Kobe and New England. It's like, oh, like I always thought to flight Gate was a joke. I just to me it was just nonsense. When you hear Chie fatigue and they're getting the calls. I do think that Buffalo game, I thought it was a first down, didn't get it. I mean, the tuck rule, it is what it is. There were thirteen minutes left in that game with Buffalo, make a play. But you've been in that world where you're kind of the villain. Was it inspiring. Did you care?

You. You hear a lot the critics of Chiefs fatigue, and I think the ultimate compliment. I remember this with the Jordan rules and Shaq and Kobe and New England. It's like, oh, like I always thought to flight Gate was a joke. I just to me it was just nonsense. When you hear Chie fatigue and they're getting the calls. I do think that Buffalo game, I thought it was a first down, didn't get it. I mean, the tuck rule, it is what it is. There were thirteen minutes left in that game with Buffalo, make a play. But you've been in that world where you're kind of the villain. Was it inspiring. Did you care?

It was definitely inspiring.

It was definitely inspiring.

And if this is the if this is the worst thing they get is that the refs call for them like we went through a couple gates, you know, like that, that they'd get off easy. If this is if this is the length of how much people are getting on them. But I think it's a it's one of those things where everyone says stuff about you. It kind of it's the biggest compliment where everyone has to come up with excuses instead of just beating you. So it's the ultimate compliment.

And if this is the if this is the worst thing they get is that the refs call for them like we went through a couple gates, you know, like that, that they'd get off easy. If this is if this is the length of how much people are getting on them. But I think it's a it's one of those things where everyone says stuff about you. It kind of it's the biggest compliment where everyone has to come up with excuses instead of just beating you. So it's the ultimate compliment.

I think.

I think.

I do think there's a real connectivity between you and the Patriots or you and the Chiefs. It's a star coach, star quarterback often going into a Super Bowl where people think to see so the Eagles have better players or the Niners, but you're both. You and the Chiefs are so great in situations, circumstantially, situationally, so strong. You won a lot of close games, and that's why it's so ironic that you lost with the Giants twice in close games. Did you feel it was an advantage having those games with Baltimore and Peyton, Manning and Pittsburgh like games that were in doubt with four minutes left? Does that play a part in the Super Bowl? Like I've kind of been here.

I do think there's a real connectivity between you and the Patriots or you and the Chiefs. It's a star coach, star quarterback often going into a Super Bowl where people think to see so the Eagles have better players or the Niners, but you're both. You and the Chiefs are so great in situations, circumstantially, situationally, so strong. You won a lot of close games, and that's why it's so ironic that you lost with the Giants twice in close games. Did you feel it was an advantage having those games with Baltimore and Peyton, Manning and Pittsburgh like games that were in doubt with four minutes left? Does that play a part in the Super Bowl? Like I've kind of been here.

It does play a part because it's a bit of experience. I remember when we were down what New Orleans Week four, two scores with a minute and thirty. We came back and won that game, Kemberroll Tompkins on the sideline on the with played with time ending.

It does play a part because it's a bit of experience. I remember when we were down what New Orleans Week four, two scores with a minute and thirty. We came back and won that game, Kemberroll Tompkins on the sideline on the with played with time ending.

Like that was on Week four.

Like that was on Week four.

But that feeling that guys felt that you can come from behind when it's against all odds that lasts the whole season.

But that feeling that guys felt that you can come from behind when it's against all odds that lasts the whole season.

That's a bit of experience.

That's a bit of experience.

So I do think that all these close games that the Chiefs have played in that's just built to their situational football. Like whenever the game was close, we understood that. Our coach always talked about being a tough mentally, tough, physical team that performs under pressure in situations consistently, and.

So I do think that all these close games that the Chiefs have played in that's just built to their situational football. Like whenever the game was close, we understood that. Our coach always talked about being a tough mentally, tough, physical team that performs under pressure in situations consistently, and.

That's what the Chiefs have done.

That's what the Chiefs have done.

If you look at a lot of their stats, they're not explosive by any means, but they're ten percent higher than last year. On third down they have like some forty nine ten play plus drives and what's that. That's them evolving their team knowing that they have a great defense and having these long drives and adjusting their team to winning the game. A lot of these teams they get all infatuated with having the best running offense or the best passing offense or this that the Chiefs just worry about getting one more point than the other team.

If you look at a lot of their stats, they're not explosive by any means, but they're ten percent higher than last year. On third down they have like some forty nine ten play plus drives and what's that. That's them evolving their team knowing that they have a great defense and having these long drives and adjusting their team to winning the game. A lot of these teams they get all infatuated with having the best running offense or the best passing offense or this that the Chiefs just worry about getting one more point than the other team.

That's where they're at in their career.

That's where they're at in their career.

You know, Mahomes and Kelsey, there's a lot of times that I just think they look at each other, you clearly, especially like by the time you're getting to Atlanta and that Super Bowl, were there times that you did go off script where there was a Super Bowl moment where Tom looked at you and it was one of those where maybe it tried it and it didn't work, and you kind of just felt like, does that happen in the game of this magnitude?

You know, Mahomes and Kelsey, there's a lot of times that I just think they look at each other, you clearly, especially like by the time you're getting to Atlanta and that Super Bowl, were there times that you did go off script where there was a Super Bowl moment where Tom looked at you and it was one of those where maybe it tried it and it didn't work, and you kind of just felt like, does that happen in the game of this magnitude?

It does happen. Super Bowl forty nine, Seattle.

It does happen. Super Bowl forty nine, Seattle.

It was a third down in that last drive before when we were going down to score.

It was a third down in that last drive before when we were going down to score.

After I took that big hit.

After I took that big hit.

It was the next drive there was a has Z juke where I have a juke route in the middle of the route, and they did they.

It was the next drive there was a has Z juke where I have a juke route in the middle of the route, and they did they.

Dropped a pe dropper.

Dropped a pe dropper.

So there was eight guys in coverage three Russian and the guy dropped out and I brought my depth deeper and went around him, and we ended up converting the third down. And me and Tom literally just talked about this play like it wasn't on there, but because of the time on task that we had with each other and the trust that we had with each other, Like he he trusted my eyes in that situation, and I trusted his throw in that situation.

So there was eight guys in coverage three Russian and the guy dropped out and I brought my depth deeper and went around him, and we ended up converting the third down. And me and Tom literally just talked about this play like it wasn't on there, but because of the time on task that we had with each other and the trust that we had with each other, Like he he trusted my eyes in that situation, and I trusted his throw in that situation.

I remember that play, you know what I mean.

I remember that play, you know what I mean.

So a lot of that happens through the reps and the preparation that you've had for years with guys. I mean, Travis and Patrick can finish each other's sentences because they've seen the same looks football. There's only six coverages. Okay, let's break it down. It's not rocket science. There's only so many things they can actually do, and they've seen everything multiple times. So when they see a messed up look with a look, they can determine without even talking, Hey, we know what we're doing because Thursday practice we hit this remember on the and they don't even have to say anything.

So a lot of that happens through the reps and the preparation that you've had for years with guys. I mean, Travis and Patrick can finish each other's sentences because they've seen the same looks football. There's only six coverages. Okay, let's break it down. It's not rocket science. There's only so many things they can actually do, and they've seen everything multiple times. So when they see a messed up look with a look, they can determine without even talking, Hey, we know what we're doing because Thursday practice we hit this remember on the and they don't even have to say anything.

Non verbal comps.

Non verbal comps.

What do you do on Friday before the Super Bowl? What's that?

What do you do on Friday before the Super Bowl? What's that?

What's that?

What's that?

Practice?

Practice?

Like Friday's fast Friday.

Like Friday's fast Friday.

So it's it's a very mental fast practice, no balls on the ground, crossing the t's dot in the eyes, going over certain situations that may have gave you some trouble early that week in practice or the prior week of practice back at home.

So it's it's a very mental fast practice, no balls on the ground, crossing the t's dot in the eyes, going over certain situations that may have gave you some trouble early that week in practice or the prior week of practice back at home.

You go over all.

You go over all.

That, you tighten it up, you get a little lift in. It's very fast, it's very mental. And then like usually Friday night, this is like your last day to hang out and see your family. Then you're going zero dark thirty Lebron style after that. So you have your night where they probably some like welcome the families to the Super Bowl thing, you say hi to your family, You have a dinner potentially, and then after that tomorrow you have your picture day and it's a big mental day, walk through day.

That, you tighten it up, you get a little lift in. It's very fast, it's very mental. And then like usually Friday night, this is like your last day to hang out and see your family. Then you're going zero dark thirty Lebron style after that. So you have your night where they probably some like welcome the families to the Super Bowl thing, you say hi to your family, You have a dinner potentially, and then after that tomorrow you have your picture day and it's a big mental day, walk through day.

You're kind of getting your treatment in.

You're kind of getting your treatment in.

You're trying to calm the storm before you know it's real calm.

You're trying to calm the storm before you know it's real calm.

And like today is like your last day.

And like today is like your last day.

This is your last day physically to go out and rep something. Now you can have a thousand different Like in Seattle, when we felt like we needed more man coverage plays in the red area.

This is your last day physically to go out and rep something. Now you can have a thousand different Like in Seattle, when we felt like we needed more man coverage plays in the red area.

We had all the hay in the barn.

We had all the hay in the barn.

That week's of practice, that two weeks of practice, we put in like three or four plays in the red area Saturday night before the game, the ex return where I scored, and then the Danny touchdown where he had it was the four crossers in the red area.

That week's of practice, that two weeks of practice, we put in like three or four plays in the red area Saturday night before the game, the ex return where I scored, and then the Danny touchdown where he had it was the four crossers in the red area.

We we knew, we felt like we need.

We we knew, we felt like we need.

I don't know where we got it, but Josh and Tom they said we need some more. I remember Tom saying we need something else with the I want to easier. Look, I don't want to have to process here here here in the red area. So we put those tuesplays in and we repped it night before. So like there's a lot of the crossing, the t's dot in the eyes, finishing the family right now today, Friday, Saturday, it's zero dark thirty.

I don't know where we got it, but Josh and Tom they said we need some more. I remember Tom saying we need something else with the I want to easier. Look, I don't want to have to process here here here in the red area. So we put those tuesplays in and we repped it night before. So like there's a lot of the crossing, the t's dot in the eyes, finishing the family right now today, Friday, Saturday, it's zero dark thirty.

Did bid Bill give you? I mean, you guys had some some of you were young. You were young at one point, Did Bill give you a night on the town? Yeah, Tuesday, so you can go to.

Did bid Bill give you? I mean, you guys had some some of you were young. You were young at one point, Did Bill give you a night on the town? Yeah, Tuesday, so you can go to.

Do whatever Monday night off Tuesday or there was no there's no curfew Monday Tuesday. You had like a regular off day Tuesday where you're expected to kind of go in and get some treatment, watch some film, but it's not mandatory, but you looked at differently if you don't do it, uh, you know. So, yeah, guys would go out on a Monday. I remember going my first Super Bowl before I was really playing it that many times in Indie, hanging with Cope and drinking a couple of beers and just talking old war stories he had that happened we have.

Do whatever Monday night off Tuesday or there was no there's no curfew Monday Tuesday. You had like a regular off day Tuesday where you're expected to kind of go in and get some treatment, watch some film, but it's not mandatory, but you looked at differently if you don't do it, uh, you know. So, yeah, guys would go out on a Monday. I remember going my first Super Bowl before I was really playing it that many times in Indie, hanging with Cope and drinking a couple of beers and just talking old war stories he had that happened we have.

We had that.

We had that.

Yeah, we had fun. I know, I know everyone thinks we didn't have fun. You know, I know, it's real fun. Going to the damn parade the next.

Yeah, we had fun. I know, I know everyone thinks we didn't have fun. You know, I know, it's real fun. Going to the damn parade the next.

Day, that's fun. Yeah, the you know, it's by the end. With Tom, he was so iconic. I mean, Tom was so big. I still I was at the Atlanta super Bowl. I don't know. To me, that is I thought everything changed. I thought, Tom, you know, there was all this ridiculous talk for years, well you know, the system. And then I thought, after the Atlanta super Bowl, It's like we just watched the best player that's ever played football play. You of course had the catch. I thought everything felt different. You guys were a dynasty. It felt like Tom sort of went into the galaxy of Oh he's above Montana, he's above l Way take me beyond the catch and the catch, what do you remember about at the end of the because that I went back looked the highlights two nights ago. I mean, every play Julian in the last every play in the last half hour mattered.