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Published Nov 23, 2024, 8:00 PM

Colin tells you why he was right about Bo Nix and wrong about Anthony Richardson

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3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman joins the show in studio to tell Colin if he would consider coaching with Bill Belichick if he returns to the NFL

Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All Right, here we go. We do it every Monday at this time. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, and there's always plenty of both. Where Colin was right. Bo Nicks four touchdowns in the last seven weeks. He has been the best rookie quarterback in the league without a doubt. Last seven weeks thirteen touchdowns, two picks, one oh six passer rating and sixty nine percent completion percentage. And this is not a great roster. They're in cap hell because of the Russell Wilson deal. They're draft pick light. And I told you, I said, I think this is Drew Brees with more mobility. And when Vegas said it was a five win team, I'm like Sean Payton's worth three wins, bow Knicks sixty one college starts, gonna win some games. Bow Knicks looks like right now the last seven weeks, the most consistent quarterback in the entire rookie class. And we told you Peyton would want him. He's perfect. Berf Peyton and watch out where Colin was raw. Anthony Richardson got benched, and I said, I don't know if he's the guy gets hurt. Can't do this. Boy, he looked great. He looked great throwing the ball down the field. You still got all the dynamic stuff. In fact, I would have run him more than they did. But I thought he looked excellent. The benching prided him good, refocused his actuer accuracy. Unlike Aaron Rodgers. He threw the ball down the field. He didn't make a big time throws. So you know, sometimes it used to be you could bench a quarterback twenty years ago and it wasn't the leads headline story. It just happened. You could do it in the NFL college high school. Now you know it's headlines. But the benching, I don't know what it was, but I thought composure. You got all the upside of Anthony richards and you got the big, strong anthlete. You've got excellent timing, excellent sideline throws. God's wrong on that. Where Colin was right, I said, all Justin Herbert needs is Jim Harbaugh. I remember before they hired Jim Harby said he's going to change the franchise overnight, and people are like overrated. No, you're not. No, Jim Harbaugh's not. Everywhere he goes, he turns the team around instantly. I mean Justin Herbert this year, like last night's great example, Justin Herbert's the leading rusher. He still doesn't have enough weapons. Two touchdowns, no picks, ninety four passer rating. Justin didn't have a perfect second half. You can't. They don't have enough weapons. But Jim Harbaugh has done exactly what we said he'd do. Stop doubting Harbaugh. There's an argument he and Jimmy Johnson are the best coaches ever in terms of college and pro. They win both instantly. He's great. Where Colin was right, the New York Giants are going to replace Daniel Jones with Tommy who, by the way, was fun to watch. I never got Daniel Jones as a number six pick. I did not get doubling down on the contract since he signed that contract. In the last two years he's three and thirteen, ten touchdowns and thirteen picks. Seems like a nice kid from the South. Maybe they felt he was going to be the next Eli Manning, but it's just one of those. He's not a natural thrower. He's a big, strong kid that moves pretty well, but he misses too many easy throws. And Brian dabol is a really good coach. He knows what he's doing. He's done everything. He got this kid into the playoffs. But since he signed that contract, maybe it's the pressure he's gotten worse. And from the very beginning, we just didn't think this was ever going to work where Colin was raw the minute I called Colorado the fake idea of college football. Five minutes later, they've been on fire. They blew out Utah. Utah doesn't get blown out a lot. Forty nine to twenty four. Now, I think Shadu or Sanders is absolutely unbelievable. But they've caught fire as a program. They controlled their death. To me, they could win the Big Twelve. I don't know when I watch them play. If you have the two best players in college football and they maybe do, I think you deserve to be in the playoff. They could win the Big twelve. I bailed on him. I said, you know, that's a lot of sizzle. It's a lot of like Shoulder and Travis Hunter. But their defensive line creates pressure, they get turnovers. Boy, was I wrong on Colorado. I was right for a while, but the minute I gave up, they turned twenty one and they're for real, not a fake id where Colin was right. Guys, the Jets were never going to be a playoff team. They don't have that kind of leadership and Aaron Rodgers. You can blame everybody else. When Robert Sala got fired, I said, do not listen to New York media. He's your best coach. You are letting your best coach out of the building, and you do not have an elite coordinator. Ever since Sala left, the offense is worse, the defense is worse. You don't have to love Robert Salim, but they fired him five days before or he was gonna face Buffalo for a chance to be in first place. Memo to bad NFL owners, Never let your best coach, even if he's not Andy Reid. Never let your best coach walk out of the building. This is the one sport in America, not Baseball, Hockey, NBA. We're a coach. Sean Payton can be worth four wins. He'll let the best coach in the staff walk out. It didn't make any sense then doesn't make any sense now. Where Colin was right, Jared Goff remains the most underrated quarterback, maybe in the last decade, in this league. Folks, his perfect passer ratings, their routine. I know his offensive line is good. Well, everybody needs a good offensive line. Jared a former number one pick. I watched him at Cal. He is I believe he is a better Matt Ryan, a better arm. He's poised, he's tough when he gets hit, He's never injured, he doesn't miss games. He's obviously a kid line of scrimmage. But Jared Goff because he doesn't move, he doesn't have the sizzle. He didn't run around everybody, just like eyes overrated folks. He took the Rams to the Super Bowl, and right now the Lions are favored to get to the super Bowl. It can't always be everybody else is the reason you're good. At some point, you're the reason your teams are always good. Where Colin was right, well, I predicted Jake Paul and Tyson would be a circus, and I like going to the circus about once a year. And that's what it was. This is why boxing cannot be a foundational piece of a sports network. And my this network and ESPN and NBC have kind of bailed on boxing. But but a lot of people cared. A lot of people watched. I watched, my wife watched. This is what boxing can be, a little clicky looking for the headlines. I did think Jake Paul had a lot of self awareness when the fight was over, he ignored nobody wanted to see me beat up on Tyson. Mike lost have the blood in his body in July. This fight should have been in March or April. He ran out of gas by the middle of the third round. He lost his legs. Listen. There was a fifty to fifty chance this was going to be a dud, and it was for everybody except Netflix's bottom line. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.

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This is not standings. Miami is four and six. I don't care. They're averaging twenty eight a game since Tua came back. They lead conversion rate on third down sixty one percent since Tua came back. He's seventy eight percent completion percentage since Tua comes back. Coaching quarterback league fourth easiest schedule remaining. They hammered the Rams, should have beaten Buffalo, hammered the Raiders. I don't care. This is not standings. This is a top ten team. Right now, I wouldn't want to play them. I wouldn't mind playing them in January in cold weather, but right now, I wouldn't want to play the Dolphins. Number nine. Vikings only two losses this year to the Lions in Rams, top ten scoring offense, top five scoring defense. I think Brian Flores deserves another head coaching job. Their defense is not the best in the league. They lead the NFL in takeaways. That's coaching. They're fooling people, They're fooling quarterbacks. This is a dangerous team. I think Sam Darnold's reckless nature will eventually hurt them in January in big games, but right now they're nine, number eight. I like Arizona. People have been crapping on Kyler Murray for years. I think he's great. Cardinals have not allowed a touchdown in three straight home games. Their defensive head coach knows what he's doing. Kyler this year, for all you people that bang on him, seventy percent completion percentage, one hundred and one passer rating, four game winning streak. I love watching Arizona play. I love their offensive pieces. I think they need another draft to get more complete. Here's another team I would have no interest playing in the playoffs, Arizona Cardinals, eight number seven Ravens. Listen, they're two and four in games where they asked Lamar to pass thirty times or more so, stop doing it every time they face the Chiefs. Every time they face the Steelers, they lose their identity. Derrick Henry disappears in the fourth quarter. They passed thirty three times, they ran like nineteen.

What are you doing?

I'm telling you I think I think Lamar is Superman, but clearly Spags and Mike tomlin Or is kryptonite. Ravens at seven, number six, I think the Chargers feel a lot like to me the Chiefs. Really good coaches Jesse Minner, Jim Harbaugh, Herbert Little, light on weapons, first time. They allowed twenty points or more this season, four game winning streak, fewest giveaways, they do not turn the ball over. Twenty one sacks during the four game streak. I'm telling you they it's like Kansas City. You wish they had a dominant number one receiver, but the culture, the toughness, the defensive coordinator, the coach, the quarterback. Chargers at six, number five, the Steelers beat them. I think if they played again it would be a coin flip. But I'll put this. I mean, listen, they held Lamar to under fifty percent completion rate and Dereck Henry anders seventy rushing yards and Russell Wilson's four to oh was a starter. Here's what I really like about him. They're five and zero against teams with a winning record. That's so Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's off. His teams often played poorly against mediocre teams are bad teams. But if you back Mike Tomlin teams into a corner against the winning team or they are an underdog they're fantastic two to oher in games this year without scoring a touchdown. The rest of the league is two and eighteen, so they can win multiple ways. Pittsburgh get five, number four. I think Philly's got the best roster in the league. Lead the NFL in yardage differential seven to zeroe aj brown plays. Their defense over the last six weeks has given up less than two touchdowns. Nick Seriani to me has stepped back and let his coordinators coordinate, and that's when he's at his best. I do think their roster, they're the best roster in terms of rising young stars, stars in their prime, and old stars, where I think Detroit doesn't have as many veteran stars. They're mostly younger going into their prime. But I have Philadelphia at four, number three, and the final three teams are the only teams I think can win the Super Bowl. Kansas City Listen Mahomes has a lot of picks. He's got eleven, but here's the thing to remember. They're still the best third down offense in the league fifty two percent, and Mahomes has still been unbelievable in the fourth quarter one zho nine point nine passer rating, So I do think interceptions do matter in big, big games, and he's had some ugly ones this year. But they're still to say they're bad offensively, No they're not. They're great on third down and great in the fourth quarter. And that's all I mostly give a rip about. But I'm gonna put him third this week Number two. Buffalo beat him, and Buffalo beat him without three of their starters. Offensively, I think this is the best Buffalo team I've seen for years and years. They didn't have a good running back. Now they do. Now they have two good tight ends. Although Kincaid didn't play. I think the young rookie receiver and Amari Cooper are really nice. Plus they have the slot from Boise State. I think this is the best version of Buffalo. I don't and listen, four straight regular season went against Kansas City. It's this is not like Baltimore and Pittsburgh where the Steelers are in Lamar Jackson's head. That's not this. They beat Kansas City, they just don't beat him when they want to beat him. In January number one, listen Detroit's numbers data. I still question them if they got to a super Bowl situationally, but I mean the second team to score fifty plus points in back to back home game since the seventy merger. It's like a college team. They get ahead there Randy Moss Patriots, where they get ahead of so many teams by seventeen points at the beginning of the second quarter that it actually makes their defense much more lethal because everybody by the mid second quarter you have to pass. So even though I don't love all their defensive personnel, it's the best third down defense on any given Sunday in the league because everybody in Detroit knows what's coming. It's the Randy Moss Patriots. Was that the best Patriots defense? No, But when you lead twenty seven to seven mid second quarter, there's only one way to get back in the game. You have to throw, and your edge rushers know it. There you go the Herd hierarchy again. The three teams at the top are all trophy hoisting teams. To me, I still have reservations on Philly, though I love their roster.

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We Got Good Stuff. Three Super Bowl rings, twelve NFL seasons, Super Bowl MVP when they beat the Rams. Julian Edelman is joining us Sundays on Fox NFL Kickoff, and he's got a course games with names, new episodes every Tuesday. So J Mack just brought this up. J Maxx always perceptive, He's always looking at the future, even though he's a Jets fan. Julian he said he goes Belichick rumors are Jacksonville. What if Bill calls you and says, uh Edelman wide receiver coach. I'll pay a force fifty a year, no state tax.

Would you go absolutely not. He hasn't even come on my podcast yet. I mean, what's going on, Bill?

Come on?

No? But on a serious note, I will never never. I don't love coaching, and you gotta love coaching to coach under Bill. I mean, I remember seeing coaches at eight o'clock after two hours of treatment, after the workday, put in more time as a player. You go out in the players lot where we all park, and you see the coaches meeting with their family, seeing for the first time in the day at eight o'clock before they have night meetings. Like I'm not living that life. And Bill does that because that's what Bill did when he was young, That's what the coaches above him made him do. So you know, it's a grind. You have to learn the grind. If you're coaching with coach Belichick, now you can completely change. I don't want them to, you know, say like don't speak for him or anything, but that's what I saw.

Yeah, no, I get it. Like it's I've come to terms with how my daughter and my son view the world and how I viewed it. I would work seventy hour weeks. They're hard workers, but my daughter's like, I'll never work in a cubicle. I'm not doing that. And I'm like, I get it.

The world changes definitely, and I think I think work has changed and how people work has changed also where people I think guys use their time more effectively. And sometimes when you're in those old school systems, I remember seeing coaches in there. I'm like, what are you guys even doing in here? You know, you guys are coming up of NASA car names for certain plays, like that's what they do. I mean, but like, you know, a lot more effective and efficient working these days.

I think let's go with Drake May Jamack liked him more than I did out of college. He's got a little bit of a Justin Herbert coomp, though not quite as polished as Justin was with all those college starts at Oregon. What do you hearing? What are you seeing? What do you like with him?

You know what, I'm really impressed with how Drake May has been playing these last few weeks and continually continually improving. I was a little skeptical at first, you know, with Drake is he too young? Does he not have enough reps? Is he too raw? And he's gone in there and he's made plays without an offensive line, and I think that's been huge because I didn't think he could do that, and the fact that they don't have anyone on the offensive line. David Andrews their number one offensive lineman. He's on ir He's one who gets that thing going. They got a bunch of journey and that's the toughest thing for a young quarterback to get comfortable, is when there's people on your lap. And he's been able to deliver throws with people on his lap, and he's progressed with his pocket presence and he's improving each week. And I love, you know, I heard Brian Horror talking about it, his attitude and he's out back East and he hears a lot more on the camp. And he's a guy that's the runt of four athletes, all boys. His mom's the best athlete in the family. He says, like he's known what it's been to get his teeth kicked in, and he's always had to probably fight for the scraps at the dinner table, and that's how he plays, and that's what he's done each week he gets he gets his teeth kicked in. Weekly. You know, he's getting hit a lot and and he's still making plays. And we're seeing a lot more progression with Drake May than we're seeing with Kayleb Williams.

Yeah, so you were in a lot of big games and a lot of times in the media we view it as winner and loser. Kansas had Buffalo play. Let's start with Kansas City. Is there any upside to losing to a primary.

Rival, especially with the wind streak that they had going. And it's good for the people that are new to the team and the younger players that haven't really been there for everything. I remember when people used to come to New England They thought it was all sunshine and rainbows. We're gonna win no matter what. We got this, we have this guy, we have that guy. But they didn't realize that we knew how hard it was to win in the National Football League. I guarantee Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Kelsey, they all know how important it is, how hard it is to win this league. A lot of these new guys that come in here that think you could just slop it out there on the field. This is a re calibration for those guys like, hey, we're not invincible. You know, we don't play our best game. There's a lot of good teams out here. Not a lot, but there's there's good teams that can beat us. So I think it's great to recalibrate the newer guys, the younger guys, to get them back to the standard. I'm sure Patrick and all the studs on the team hold throughout the year.

How about for Buffalo, now, they it's funny, this is not like Lamar against the Steelers. Buffalo beats Kansas City, Yeah, just not in January. Yeah.

I think it's huge for them as well, because you still have to remind yourself that they're beatable, you know. And this isn't the playoffs. It can go completely different from here on out, but it's still it's great for the guys that you know, Buffalo has been beat down a lot over the years in important games and that could be tough, and you can lose your confidence. And to go in and beat a team like the Kansas City Chiefs, who are the champs, two time defending champs, a team that you struggle with, it doesn't matter when it is. If you can beat them, that's going to be a confidence booster for your team going forward, saying hey, guys, this is what we preach this whole week. We did it. We execut you did it. We executed our game plan and liqu what it did. It put us in our best opportunity to go out and beat the champs. Now if we continue this, if we continue this, we don't we don't read the newspaper clippings, and we continue this, that's how we're gonna have a chance to win the Super Bowl. So I think this is a great learning tool for them.

So I'm gonna throw something Matty. This is a long winded question, but old school coaches sometimes as they grow they still hold us onto some old school stuff. So Belichick during COVID, he said, this is stupid, and he just kind of punted the season Harbaugh did in college at Michigan. He just said, it's a stupid guys like Bruce arians No, I'm playing my starters in the preseason. I'm gonna a lot of guys bail. No, I'm gonna do that, and he read will do that. So Mike Tomlin is unbeatable as a Monday night football coach, and he's great as a Sunday coach. He's abysmal as a Thursday coach, and I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this at you. He's old school. He's like, listen, we're built on physicality, brutality, and I demand a lot from my guys. If you're taking away three days arrest, I'm not changing my identity for one Thursday game every two years. If we win, we win. I don't care. I'm pontinent. It's useless. You don't have to go seventeen to know in this league and can we go in twelve games with the division is that they're so bad on Thursday, they're unbeatable. So when he gives his physical identity, an extra day rest your toast, yeah on Sunday to kick your But my theory is Tomlin's old school. He's like, I'm not changing my protocol for some streaming game. Yeah, how are they that bad on Thursday?

Well, I'll tell you right now. Old school is not that. Old school is we'll go anywhere, any place, any time, and we'll play your team. I guarantee that's probably what he preaches. But I think this all stems to they have it. They're not. They've never been a fundamentally sound offense of team uh with Tomlin there, I mean they got the back end of Big Ben when you know, the offense was still unshaky and they had pick it and then they had this.

It's a lot of big plays, a lot of big.

Plays, but not like an execution style offense. They've never been that, okay, So when we would approach a Thursday night game, we would always lean on the plays that we executed the best, no matter what could have been the most vanilla thing ever. We were gonna simplify the game plan because there's no practice reps. But you're gonna do plays that your guys like understand the best and execute the best and that's what we would do on our Thursday night games. I mean I think we I don't think I lost a Thursday night game because we were so fundamentally sound as an offense, and we were a smart football team that understood what we had to do to win this short week in this game and get out healthy.

Did you like them Thursday games?

You know, it's a lot. It's a it's a love hate thing. It's very tough when you get older to recover and get out there and play at your highest level. But then you do get the baby bye week at the end. So it is nice to have that, but uh, you know, everyone deals with it, so you have to do it. But I would say, you know, that goes back to the Steelers. They've never been like a high execution offense. You look at a lot of these teams when they go and play this Thursday night game. They're just put. They're calling plays that they know they can execute. There's no new wrinkle. Let's just I remember we would run has Zi juke, which was empty because that was our fundamental play that we It was the first install of empty that we ever played, and we knew how to get open on every single coverage with that play, like against the Jets, and they were always sloppy games, but you did what you had to do to have more points at the end of the game than the other team. And that's what you were most comfortable with executing.

If you want a Thursday game. Would Belichick ever go extra day off?

Well, by the end the CBA, you know that you had to have a certain amount of days off in a row. But yeah, you know, we always I don't. I don't think I ever lost one. So wow, in seventeen, I think they may have lost I was on ACL, but we always had him early in our year. I feel like we played the Jets slot we played Pittsburgh a couple of times, so we're for that reason. And it's like Pittsburgh doesn't play no slop in the park team when they're playing Thursday night, they're playing a division rival, which those are tough, you know, so you know, yeah, just gotta go with what you're comfortable with and you execute the best.

By the way, it's week twelve and I remember Trent Dilfer saying, dude, I'm a quarterback, and by week four everything hurts. Take me to Week twelve Julian Edelman. Yeah, okay, you are playing in a Thursday night off a Sunday game. Yeah, do you wake up this morning sore?

What age?

Okay? Okay, twenty nine.

Twenty nine, thirty. You're achy, You're definitely achy. You wake up today a little achy, but you no, you you do a lot of active recovery week all week. So the job of your yours as an athlete on a Thursday night game is like NASCAR. You got to do everything to do you gotta do to get your car running best that week. So you know, you're you're in putting more time with treatment, more physical therapy, more your prehab, more of your conditioning. You're doing all those things because you're not gonna have physical reps of practice to get yourself ready. So yeah, it was. It was definitely. You know, you were definitely sore. But this is the time. Week twelve is the year, the time of the year where you would get banged up without a doubt six to eight week six to eight. If you got out clean the first four or five, there's always like a low period where the of the new year's kind of gone and the grind of the real season is starting to hit you and you're getting tired and you're sore, and it's the clocks change and it's darker and you're at work. You don't see light. So it does get like to a grind period. But then this week twelve starting soon, this is like the pastorization period of when you milk a cow when you're trying to get the cream cream seasons after Thanksgiving.

That sounds like a Belichick story.

That's my story. I always call it that, baby. But this is the time of year where you're going to start to see guys separate when you play in the division and guys are starting to know what their team is and everything's about putting the tools on the belt for the dance the playoffs, and this is when, yeah, you were bumped up and you were sore, but there was light at the end of the tunnel, and that light was the playoffs. That light was the seeding. That light was you know how the health of the team is. We're getting healthy. That's what the light is. At the end of the year. And you start seeing that week twelve, Week thirteen, Week fourteen, you're in it and this is what we are and now we better not lose a game because we want to play our best football at the end of the year.

Pasturization of the NFL, Well.

That's the the that's part of the time when the creams rising the top. Absolutely, I know it's not cream season yet. It's not cream season for all you the milk heads out there. Let's get in the comments section and let's see what we are we doing this wrong. I want to know the explanation and the analogy.

Somebody go to a dairy reddit board and get me something on this, because I thought that was one of the smartest things ever dropped on last yo.

Well, cream seasons after Thanksgiving, that's the cream rises to the top.

Baby, it's the pumpkin spice at the Starbucks thing. Okay, games with names, who's your latest?

We just we just did Jim Craig from nineteen eighties Olympics goalie miracle on ice. We did Danny DeVito. We got dudes on Dudes with Gronk every Tuesday. That's fun. We're starting to get that going. It's it's been fun, except you know, freaking I'd go coach Bill if he came on my damn podcast?

Would it for one year? No?

At no, he can't pay me enough. It have to be seven figures at least. Come on for coach. Geez lived that life twelve years.

Yeah, twelve years as a player.

Coaches get it even worse.

You've got a social life now and a young daughter. Yes, you got a.

Life trying to I'm saying yes to things I didn't know I could say yes to. Not accustomed since.

Eighth grade you just said no the whole time.

Anytime it was September to you know, December, February. Yeah, I mean, since you're a kid, you have football season.

Yes is a great word. It is, Margherita tonight. Yeah, it's a great.

Word in moderation. Yes is a great word to anybody. Great to see you, guys,

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