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It is Memorial Day. Welcome in. This is the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be watching or listening. Thank you to the families who are serving and have served. It can be a tough day for many military families that you're in our thoughts. The liberties and freedoms we enjoy are due to you and your sacrifice and commitment to this country. And thank you for all joining us. A lot of choices on a Monday, Jmac, the one team on this NBA slate that you've always been a fan of as the New York Knicks. And they were in a rough, rough spot at about eight thirty Central where I'm his last night, they were getting blown out, and then something magical happened. You must field. We had a series today.

It is Memorial Day. Welcome in. This is the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be watching or listening. Thank you to the families who are serving and have served. It can be a tough day for many military families that you're in our thoughts. The liberties and freedoms we enjoy are due to you and your sacrifice and commitment to this country. And thank you for all joining us. A lot of choices on a Monday, Jmac, the one team on this NBA slate that you've always been a fan of as the New York Knicks. And they were in a rough, rough spot at about eight thirty Central where I'm his last night, they were getting blown out, and then something magical happened. You must field. We had a series today.

Yeah, Tom Thibodeau pressed the right buttons at the right time, and the Knicks are back in the series.

Yeah, Tom Thibodeau pressed the right buttons at the right time, and the Knicks are back in the series.

Coward, let's go all right.

Coward, let's go all right.

They were down oh two, they were on the road, down twenty point. Their star was in foul trouble Jalen Brudson. It was one of those what kind of man are you? Games? And Carl Anthony Towns. Two things happened. Number one, Karl Anthony town said, I'll show you what kind of man I am. I'm going to single handedly take over the fourth quarter. Listen the dude he has quarters like this. He averages twenty three a game in his career. When he was in his prime, Carl Anthony Towns always ended up near the top of those GM surveys they do. Who would just start a franchise with? He doesn't play any defense, He's a little quirky, but he can dominate games. I've been to three or four games where he was playing, and he was the best player on the floor at some point in all those games. So, and the second thing that happened, and this does not happen very often for the Pacers, they lost their way offensively. So Halliburton end of the third quarter beginning of the fourth. So in the third beginning of the fourth, about four and a half minutes he was on the bench. In that time, a fifteen point lead evaporated to four. And then he comes back in and they just never quite felt the same again Indiana. It's hard to get them off their offensive game. But even when the Knicks were down four, three, two points, it felt like they were in control. So the Pacers are a rhythm team and that they have the fastest pace in the league, and they get out of their them and all of a sudden you had Nie Smith and other guy's McConnell trying to run the offense. Is like, bro that that's not it. This is Aliburton's offense. They lost their quarterback. They only shot thirty six percent in the second half at home and shot forty two percent. That's the worst half of basketball for the Pacers. And just to give you in the playoffs, to give you another example, it flashed on the screen at one point in the first half, they had fourteen fast break points. They were running the Knicks out of the arena. In the second half total two fast break points. Haliburton sits they lose their rhythm he comes back in tries to kick start it and he never could. And what did we talk about last week. Whoever controls the tempo is going to win the games and or the series. And the Knicks compressed it, slowed it down. And also in this matters, the Knicks hit their last fifteen free throws. I know that's not a glamorous headline, but remember Game one, the Knicks had control and they were missing free throws. Open the door. This was the opposite. They were controlling tempo in Game one, they lost tempo, miss free throws. Here late, they controlled tempo, hit free throws, and so they were a better roaded team than they were a home team. The road team has won every game in this series. So the next slowed it down, hit the freebies, and I thought their defensive rotations were much better, especially when you had once Haliburton sat down for that stretch. And you see this in football all the time. You have momentum, you have a bad series, you have a fumble, there's a turnover, and you can never find the momentum again. It's hard. Momentum matters, and especially matters in playoff games. So we have ourselves a series the Knicks Blue Game one, it kind of felt like they stole Game three, Indiana. I don't like the better team in game two. We've got a series and here's tips.

They were down oh two, they were on the road, down twenty point. Their star was in foul trouble Jalen Brudson. It was one of those what kind of man are you? Games? And Carl Anthony Towns. Two things happened. Number one, Karl Anthony town said, I'll show you what kind of man I am. I'm going to single handedly take over the fourth quarter. Listen the dude he has quarters like this. He averages twenty three a game in his career. When he was in his prime, Carl Anthony Towns always ended up near the top of those GM surveys they do. Who would just start a franchise with? He doesn't play any defense, He's a little quirky, but he can dominate games. I've been to three or four games where he was playing, and he was the best player on the floor at some point in all those games. So, and the second thing that happened, and this does not happen very often for the Pacers, they lost their way offensively. So Halliburton end of the third quarter beginning of the fourth. So in the third beginning of the fourth, about four and a half minutes he was on the bench. In that time, a fifteen point lead evaporated to four. And then he comes back in and they just never quite felt the same again Indiana. It's hard to get them off their offensive game. But even when the Knicks were down four, three, two points, it felt like they were in control. So the Pacers are a rhythm team and that they have the fastest pace in the league, and they get out of their them and all of a sudden you had Nie Smith and other guy's McConnell trying to run the offense. Is like, bro that that's not it. This is Aliburton's offense. They lost their quarterback. They only shot thirty six percent in the second half at home and shot forty two percent. That's the worst half of basketball for the Pacers. And just to give you in the playoffs, to give you another example, it flashed on the screen at one point in the first half, they had fourteen fast break points. They were running the Knicks out of the arena. In the second half total two fast break points. Haliburton sits they lose their rhythm he comes back in tries to kick start it and he never could. And what did we talk about last week. Whoever controls the tempo is going to win the games and or the series. And the Knicks compressed it, slowed it down. And also in this matters, the Knicks hit their last fifteen free throws. I know that's not a glamorous headline, but remember Game one, the Knicks had control and they were missing free throws. Open the door. This was the opposite. They were controlling tempo in Game one, they lost tempo, miss free throws. Here late, they controlled tempo, hit free throws, and so they were a better roaded team than they were a home team. The road team has won every game in this series. So the next slowed it down, hit the freebies, and I thought their defensive rotations were much better, especially when you had once Haliburton sat down for that stretch. And you see this in football all the time. You have momentum, you have a bad series, you have a fumble, there's a turnover, and you can never find the momentum again. It's hard. Momentum matters, and especially matters in playoff games. So we have ourselves a series the Knicks Blue Game one, it kind of felt like they stole Game three, Indiana. I don't like the better team in game two. We've got a series and here's tips.

Him play out basketball. I know you guys like roll your eyes when they say no lead is safe. But no lead is safe because I think with the three point shot, people make up ground quickly. Pace the game, make up ground quickly. See you see comebacks all the time, and if you let up just a little bit, that's that's what happens.

Him play out basketball. I know you guys like roll your eyes when they say no lead is safe. But no lead is safe because I think with the three point shot, people make up ground quickly. Pace the game, make up ground quickly. See you see comebacks all the time, and if you let up just a little bit, that's that's what happens.

So you just do not see the Pacers very often lose their way offensively. But that four and five minute stretch where Halliburton left and you just saw the lead shrink. He came back in, he sort of righted the ship. He hit a three. It felt a little better. But by that point the Knicks had growing confidence. And it should also be noted Kat did a lot of his damage with Jalen Brunson on the bench, which we'll get to after the commercial. Okay, so this is a story you may be wondering. I don't think it's going to make a big deal either way. But Aaron Rodgers, according to Jeremy Fowler, there are people in the NFL and Jeremy Fowler works at ESPN, very good reporter. He is saying there are people in the NFL, many that believe Aaron Rodgers is waiting on Minnesota. I don't know that to be true, but I will say this, Aaron loves to make people think he's a mystery and the media can't figure him out. And he does that because it invalidates us, and we're the one group of people he can't control. He's worshiped by football people, he's love by teammates, the one group he can't control us, and so he wants to invalidate us. And he's not JD. Salinger. It's not that mysterious. The Steelers are a shaky fit and Aaron knows it. He doesn't want to offend Mike Tomlin. It may be if he wants to play his best spot, but they can't figure out offense. I've done over this a million times. They're toned af to offer. They they I think they're now making moves just to make moves. Let's just move off George Pickens and let's get a pick, and let's overspend for DK Metcalf and they're just making moves to make moves. So there are reports and I don't care about his personal life. That Aaron's personal life, he's going through some turbulence. You wish him well. I don't want to get into any speculation there, but I just think Aaron is too smart to think the Steelers are a good fit. The O line's been a wreck for years. The oh coordinator position they've run through him. They lost Naugee Harris, their left tackle. And by the way, it does matter. He went from Green Bay, which has always had an offensive culture. They always get quarterback right, they always have offensive coaches, they always have good offensive lines. Green Bay does offense right, and they've been doing it right for thirty years. Pittsburgh does defense right. And the only two times they've done offense right they had Terry Bradshaw on Big Ben and in between that, they're not the same franchise. They win games that don't win big games, and that's what Pittsburgh's going through right now. They've been a bottom ten total offense six years in a row, and that's hard to do when you look at the two New York franchise and Carolina. It's a bad offense in this league, and the Bears so the Vikings makes a ton of sense. Great brilliant offensive head coach and play caller. They play indoors. He knows the division they have justin Jefferson. They upgraded their offensive line in the offseason. There's also a story that's interesting. So Aaron was apparently on some podcast and said, when asked about the Saints, because we don't know exactly what the Saints are doing. Is it going to be is Spencer Rattler?

So you just do not see the Pacers very often lose their way offensively. But that four and five minute stretch where Halliburton left and you just saw the lead shrink. He came back in, he sort of righted the ship. He hit a three. It felt a little better. But by that point the Knicks had growing confidence. And it should also be noted Kat did a lot of his damage with Jalen Brunson on the bench, which we'll get to after the commercial. Okay, so this is a story you may be wondering. I don't think it's going to make a big deal either way. But Aaron Rodgers, according to Jeremy Fowler, there are people in the NFL and Jeremy Fowler works at ESPN, very good reporter. He is saying there are people in the NFL, many that believe Aaron Rodgers is waiting on Minnesota. I don't know that to be true, but I will say this, Aaron loves to make people think he's a mystery and the media can't figure him out. And he does that because it invalidates us, and we're the one group of people he can't control. He's worshiped by football people, he's love by teammates, the one group he can't control us, and so he wants to invalidate us. And he's not JD. Salinger. It's not that mysterious. The Steelers are a shaky fit and Aaron knows it. He doesn't want to offend Mike Tomlin. It may be if he wants to play his best spot, but they can't figure out offense. I've done over this a million times. They're toned af to offer. They they I think they're now making moves just to make moves. Let's just move off George Pickens and let's get a pick, and let's overspend for DK Metcalf and they're just making moves to make moves. So there are reports and I don't care about his personal life. That Aaron's personal life, he's going through some turbulence. You wish him well. I don't want to get into any speculation there, but I just think Aaron is too smart to think the Steelers are a good fit. The O line's been a wreck for years. The oh coordinator position they've run through him. They lost Naugee Harris, their left tackle. And by the way, it does matter. He went from Green Bay, which has always had an offensive culture. They always get quarterback right, they always have offensive coaches, they always have good offensive lines. Green Bay does offense right, and they've been doing it right for thirty years. Pittsburgh does defense right. And the only two times they've done offense right they had Terry Bradshaw on Big Ben and in between that, they're not the same franchise. They win games that don't win big games, and that's what Pittsburgh's going through right now. They've been a bottom ten total offense six years in a row, and that's hard to do when you look at the two New York franchise and Carolina. It's a bad offense in this league, and the Bears so the Vikings makes a ton of sense. Great brilliant offensive head coach and play caller. They play indoors. He knows the division they have justin Jefferson. They upgraded their offensive line in the offseason. There's also a story that's interesting. So Aaron was apparently on some podcast and said, when asked about the Saints, because we don't know exactly what the Saints are doing. Is it going to be is Spencer Rattler?

You know?

You know?

And Aaron Rodgers was quoted saying, yeah, I'm too old. I don't want to live in Louisiana. Sorry. So what that means is where Aaron plays matters to Aaron, he is thinking about it. He doesn't want to live in New Orleans. So that's another reason. Indoors, he knows the division NFC. He moved over to a defensive culture plan outdoors in the Northeast with the Jets and it was a mess. Aaron doesn't want to do that again. So and Jeff Pearlman came on last week. He wrote a book about Brent Farv, and Aaron was all through the book and Farv didn't treat Aarin very well. And I grew to kind of respect what Aaron had to go through, but he made a point about where Aaron's played, and the fit is really crucial when you consider Aaron's personality.

And Aaron Rodgers was quoted saying, yeah, I'm too old. I don't want to live in Louisiana. Sorry. So what that means is where Aaron plays matters to Aaron, he is thinking about it. He doesn't want to live in New Orleans. So that's another reason. Indoors, he knows the division NFC. He moved over to a defensive culture plan outdoors in the Northeast with the Jets and it was a mess. Aaron doesn't want to do that again. So and Jeff Pearlman came on last week. He wrote a book about Brent Farv, and Aaron was all through the book and Farv didn't treat Aarin very well. And I grew to kind of respect what Aaron had to go through, but he made a point about where Aaron's played, and the fit is really crucial when you consider Aaron's personality.

They just think over time, especially being in a small Midwestern town surrounded by the Midwestern quaintness of Green Bay. I think Aaron Rodgers really started to believe I'm the smartest guy in the room.

They just think over time, especially being in a small Midwestern town surrounded by the Midwestern quaintness of Green Bay. I think Aaron Rodgers really started to believe I'm the smartest guy in the room.

I know everything.

I know everything.

I am very intelligent. I know more than the coaches, I know more than my teammates, I know more than this fan base. And again, if you can contain that in Green Bay, Wisconsin, it's one thing you're treated as a guy, but once you go national, once you go to a different franchise, it doesn't really play out that well.

I am very intelligent. I know more than the coaches, I know more than my teammates, I know more than this fan base. And again, if you can contain that in Green Bay, Wisconsin, it's one thing you're treated as a guy, but once you go national, once you go to a different franchise, it doesn't really play out that well.

It certainly didn't in New York. Now, the culture in Pittsburgh is better than New York, but like the Jets, they can't get offense right. So whether the story is true or not, it makes a lot of sense. I've said this. I think he was waiting for brock Perty's contract he get signed that eliminated the Niners. I think that was his first choice. His second choice was Minnesota. This is just a guest by me, but this story comes out and this is what I felt is Aaron's too smart to think, you know, Pittsburgh's gonna work for me. I don't think they're a game better if he plays there. I don't. I think Pittsburgh now is in the space where they're just making moves to make moves. I don't know DK Metcalf was overpaid. Pickens trade probably right once you acquire Dk Metcalf, But I didn't love the offseason for the Steelers. J.

It certainly didn't in New York. Now, the culture in Pittsburgh is better than New York, but like the Jets, they can't get offense right. So whether the story is true or not, it makes a lot of sense. I've said this. I think he was waiting for brock Perty's contract he get signed that eliminated the Niners. I think that was his first choice. His second choice was Minnesota. This is just a guest by me, but this story comes out and this is what I felt is Aaron's too smart to think, you know, Pittsburgh's gonna work for me. I don't think they're a game better if he plays there. I don't. I think Pittsburgh now is in the space where they're just making moves to make moves. I don't know DK Metcalf was overpaid. Pickens trade probably right once you acquire Dk Metcalf, But I didn't love the offseason for the Steelers. J.

Mack.

Mack.

There's a lot of things going on today. Colin Wright, Colin wrong in fifty minutes. There was a story over the weekend about Caitlin Clark's value to the WNBA. It is I don't know if people understand this, like what is happening, how popular she is. It's insane, and I think it is time. I like the fact that this story was published, meaning WNBA coaches, players, executives can now read her relevance, which is not only is it transcendent, it's transformational to the league. How was your weekend?

There's a lot of things going on today. Colin Wright, Colin wrong in fifty minutes. There was a story over the weekend about Caitlin Clark's value to the WNBA. It is I don't know if people understand this, like what is happening, how popular she is. It's insane, and I think it is time. I like the fact that this story was published, meaning WNBA coaches, players, executives can now read her relevance, which is not only is it transcendent, it's transformational to the league. How was your weekend?

By the way, my weekend was excellent.

By the way, my weekend was excellent.

I ran into your friend Lebron yesterday at a volleyball tournament out here in LA But if I could quickly go back to Aaron Rodgers for a second. Does he totally want to be Brett Farv Jets then Vikings close out the career.

I ran into your friend Lebron yesterday at a volleyball tournament out here in LA But if I could quickly go back to Aaron Rodgers for a second. Does he totally want to be Brett Farv Jets then Vikings close out the career.

Is that what he's wanting to do?

Is that what he's wanting to do?

Like copy Brett Farv? It is just so embarrassing and pathetic. But I don't want to bash Aaron Rodgers. He went through some stuff last week. I'm sure you saw with an ex girlfriend kind of throwing him under the bus for not being a nice guy.

Like copy Brett Farv? It is just so embarrassing and pathetic. But I don't want to bash Aaron Rodgers. He went through some stuff last week. I'm sure you saw with an ex girlfriend kind of throwing him under the bus for not being a nice guy.

Which should surprise nobody. But just disappointing stuff.

Which should surprise nobody. But just disappointing stuff.

Eric, Come on, yeah, we wish Aaron the very best and the Steelers the very best. Coming up next the information about how big Caitlin Clark is. It's sort of staggering. Matt Hasselbeck stops by. I'm going to give you my list of the four newcomers in the NFL this year that will change outcomes. I think there's only four, only four people in the NFL that moved and will changed outcomes. It's the hurt.

Eric, Come on, yeah, we wish Aaron the very best and the Steelers the very best. Coming up next the information about how big Caitlin Clark is. It's sort of staggering. Matt Hasselbeck stops by. I'm going to give you my list of the four newcomers in the NFL this year that will change outcomes. I think there's only four, only four people in the NFL that moved and will changed outcomes. It's the hurt.

Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in newon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Welcome back on this Memorial Day, Matt Hasselbeck calling right and wrong in forty minutes. So, a associate professor of finance at Indiana University broke down the economic scale of Caitlin Clark, who is just a phenomenon. So she generated last year twenty six and a half percent as a rookie on a terrible team, twenty six and a half percent of the economic activity in the league. Listen to some of these numbers. Her stardom not slowing down. The Fever averaged more than the Pacers did per game throughout the league. If she played in your town, attendance for the league rose thirty percent. The valuation of the fever ninety million dollars for the Fever before she arrived, now three hundred and forty million. That's four times, four times valuation increase. Lebron didn't do that when he went back to Cleveland. He certainly didn't do it going to Miami or the Lakers. MJ didn't do that with the Bulls. We're talking one player. She is Steve Jobs. She's taking an insolvent company and turning it into a powerhouse. So listen to this. WNBA merchandise exploded five hundred percent increase. That's one player. I mean literally half the merchandise in the league she's selling. So you better get comfortable with the fact that if she comes to your arena, ticket prices will jump one hundred and forty percent. She will be more popular than your entire roster. So and my take is, ride the wave, enjoy the fruits, be grateful you went commercial to private. Now we can go back to Fly in Spirit airlines. But nothing kills team spirit like Fly in Spirit. So you got to come to grips with it. She is not only transcendent, she is transformational. She has changed the league. And Hollywood has always understood this. The actors and the directors have always understood this. The bigger the stars, the better the catering, egg rolls for everybody, chicken and beef options. So this is a whole different ballgame. We're talking about these numbers. She is mission very possible. What you are seeing now is I don't think I don't even think the PGA with Tiger exploded like this. I mean, these numbers are insane. And you know, I was talking to a group of people last night that aren't sports fans, and they, you know, they asked, like, how long will it last, and what do you make of it? My take is, well, think about how deep the reservoir of men's basketball talent is in the world. I mean, you know, you can go to Spain, Lithuania, you can go anywhere. You can go anywhere in the United States, you can go to Portugal. There's talent everywhere in the world for men's basketball, and men's basketball has been ahead of women's basketball. My entire life is that we've never found a duplicate for Steph Curry. We never have. Nobody plays like him, nobody looks like him, nobody shoots like him in women's basketball. And his greatest Curry is he wasn't the best player in the league. He was the most transformational. People take shots now they wouldn't have considered, but we've never found a duplicate in the men's game for Steph Curry. The gap between Caitlin and anything resembling her is Curry fourfold. So it's not going to end. This is at the beginning of it. The professor states that there's a chance she will have a billion dollar economic impact for the WUNBA this year. Again, ride the wave. People enter your life all the time and make it better. Thank them. J Mack with the news.

Welcome back on this Memorial Day, Matt Hasselbeck calling right and wrong in forty minutes. So, a associate professor of finance at Indiana University broke down the economic scale of Caitlin Clark, who is just a phenomenon. So she generated last year twenty six and a half percent as a rookie on a terrible team, twenty six and a half percent of the economic activity in the league. Listen to some of these numbers. Her stardom not slowing down. The Fever averaged more than the Pacers did per game throughout the league. If she played in your town, attendance for the league rose thirty percent. The valuation of the fever ninety million dollars for the Fever before she arrived, now three hundred and forty million. That's four times, four times valuation increase. Lebron didn't do that when he went back to Cleveland. He certainly didn't do it going to Miami or the Lakers. MJ didn't do that with the Bulls. We're talking one player. She is Steve Jobs. She's taking an insolvent company and turning it into a powerhouse. So listen to this. WNBA merchandise exploded five hundred percent increase. That's one player. I mean literally half the merchandise in the league she's selling. So you better get comfortable with the fact that if she comes to your arena, ticket prices will jump one hundred and forty percent. She will be more popular than your entire roster. So and my take is, ride the wave, enjoy the fruits, be grateful you went commercial to private. Now we can go back to Fly in Spirit airlines. But nothing kills team spirit like Fly in Spirit. So you got to come to grips with it. She is not only transcendent, she is transformational. She has changed the league. And Hollywood has always understood this. The actors and the directors have always understood this. The bigger the stars, the better the catering, egg rolls for everybody, chicken and beef options. So this is a whole different ballgame. We're talking about these numbers. She is mission very possible. What you are seeing now is I don't think I don't even think the PGA with Tiger exploded like this. I mean, these numbers are insane. And you know, I was talking to a group of people last night that aren't sports fans, and they, you know, they asked, like, how long will it last, and what do you make of it? My take is, well, think about how deep the reservoir of men's basketball talent is in the world. I mean, you know, you can go to Spain, Lithuania, you can go anywhere. You can go anywhere in the United States, you can go to Portugal. There's talent everywhere in the world for men's basketball, and men's basketball has been ahead of women's basketball. My entire life is that we've never found a duplicate for Steph Curry. We never have. Nobody plays like him, nobody looks like him, nobody shoots like him in women's basketball. And his greatest Curry is he wasn't the best player in the league. He was the most transformational. People take shots now they wouldn't have considered, but we've never found a duplicate in the men's game for Steph Curry. The gap between Caitlin and anything resembling her is Curry fourfold. So it's not going to end. This is at the beginning of it. The professor states that there's a chance she will have a billion dollar economic impact for the WUNBA this year. Again, ride the wave. People enter your life all the time and make it better. Thank them. J Mack with the news.

No, no, no, this is the Herdline news.

No, no, no, this is the Herdline news.

All right, Cole, Let's get started with a big story out here in La Show. Hey Otani, big appearance over the weekend, throwing live batting practice for the first time since his left shoulder surgery. Otani only threw twenty two pitches. There were five plate appearances to three batters. After the session, Otani said, I haven't thrown in a while, so it was nice to be able to feel like a pitcher obviously when.

All right, Cole, Let's get started with a big story out here in La Show. Hey Otani, big appearance over the weekend, throwing live batting practice for the first time since his left shoulder surgery. Otani only threw twenty two pitches. There were five plate appearances to three batters. After the session, Otani said, I haven't thrown in a while, so it was nice to be able to feel like a pitcher obviously when.

He has thrown. I mean, hey, guys, incredible.

He has thrown. I mean, hey, guys, incredible.

Now I'm curious, do you think this is a situation where the Dodgers are like, hey, we need Otani back.

Now I'm curious, do you think this is a situation where the Dodgers are like, hey, we need Otani back.

I mean, they are only up one in the West.

I mean, they are only up one in the West.

Over the the Giants and Addres are closing in.

Over the the Giants and Addres are closing in.

Listen, he's a great pitcher, so obviously he makes the team better when he pitches. And they've had a ton of pitching injuries. I think pitching injuries if you look at Tommy John surgeries, they've skyrocketed the last five to ten years. It's an industry issue. But the Dodgers, because they're such a big brand and talked about like everybody looks at the Dodgers and they can't stay healthy. There is no question that Otani they want Otani available that I think part of the negotiations were he's gonna pitch. If you add o Tawny, he would arguably the be the ace of the staff. And so, I mean they have some good arms, but they've got guys who have been injured before, like last known who they got from Tampa. So it's I think you're gonna notice his value in August, September, and October. That's when all this will matter the most totally.

Listen, he's a great pitcher, so obviously he makes the team better when he pitches. And they've had a ton of pitching injuries. I think pitching injuries if you look at Tommy John surgeries, they've skyrocketed the last five to ten years. It's an industry issue. But the Dodgers, because they're such a big brand and talked about like everybody looks at the Dodgers and they can't stay healthy. There is no question that Otani they want Otani available that I think part of the negotiations were he's gonna pitch. If you add o Tawny, he would arguably the be the ace of the staff. And so, I mean they have some good arms, but they've got guys who have been injured before, like last known who they got from Tampa. So it's I think you're gonna notice his value in August, September, and October. That's when all this will matter the most totally.

Let's let's get to the NBA where the Timberwolves on Saturday night, but what a beatdown on the Thunder just absolutely ran him out of the building one three to one on one, I mean, Colin winning by forty two points. I don't know how much of this you watched it. The fourth quarter was unwatchable but interesting. Note here Sga, the MVP of the league, was sitting on the bench late in the game wearing a microphone. The broadcast caught him talking about the loss.

Let's let's get to the NBA where the Timberwolves on Saturday night, but what a beatdown on the Thunder just absolutely ran him out of the building one three to one on one, I mean, Colin winning by forty two points. I don't know how much of this you watched it. The fourth quarter was unwatchable but interesting. Note here Sga, the MVP of the league, was sitting on the bench late in the game wearing a microphone. The broadcast caught him talking about the loss.

Take a listen.

Take a listen.

Earlier, they were more physical earlier, and they made shot to do missun the others.

Earlier, they were more physical earlier, and they made shot to do missun the others.

And then on top of.

And then on top of.

This, they had a great night.

This, they had a great night.

We had a bad night.

We had a bad night.

So it's like forty.

So it's like forty.

But if we like take care of these, we can still lose because of this night.

But if we like take care of these, we can still lose because of this night.

But it doesn't look like this.

But it doesn't look like this.

Well, I you know what. I was talking to my friend Jason tim flast night at the Volume, we talked about this. Of all the teams remaining, I kind of feel like I get the same team with the Knicks Homer Way, same team with the Pacers home and away, same team t Wolves home and away. OKAYC because of their youth, I don't feel like it's the same offense young players on the road historically in the playoffs and rotational players, and they have the deepest bench, right so and so when you look at OKAC and the numbers validate this, they're not the same offense away from home. They're the youngest team and the deepest team. But those rotational guys, you know, we've talked about this. When you get to the playoffs, your stars shine wherever. Your rotational guys are always better at home. They're always more comfortable. They're often younger players or more limited players. So okay, see, I feel there is a gap between home made case okay, see and road thunder.

Well, I you know what. I was talking to my friend Jason tim flast night at the Volume, we talked about this. Of all the teams remaining, I kind of feel like I get the same team with the Knicks Homer Way, same team with the Pacers home and away, same team t Wolves home and away. OKAYC because of their youth, I don't feel like it's the same offense young players on the road historically in the playoffs and rotational players, and they have the deepest bench, right so and so when you look at OKAC and the numbers validate this, they're not the same offense away from home. They're the youngest team and the deepest team. But those rotational guys, you know, we've talked about this. When you get to the playoffs, your stars shine wherever. Your rotational guys are always better at home. They're always more comfortable. They're often younger players or more limited players. So okay, see, I feel there is a gap between home made case okay, see and road thunder.

And listen, naz Reid goes home and can actually make shots. I mean I think he got every three pointer in Okay. I will say the one interesting angle here is, you know, I can understand you don't show up. You lose by twenty Colin. This was almost like a we're laying down, you know, we kind of give up. Remember this happened against Memphis in Game three. They were up two oh and Memphis goes up thirty, but then Ja Morant got hurt and okaysee came back. So I think you're onto something with this young team. Obviously, tonight is the series. If oka See wins, it's over up three to one.

And listen, naz Reid goes home and can actually make shots. I mean I think he got every three pointer in Okay. I will say the one interesting angle here is, you know, I can understand you don't show up. You lose by twenty Colin. This was almost like a we're laying down, you know, we kind of give up. Remember this happened against Memphis in Game three. They were up two oh and Memphis goes up thirty, but then Ja Morant got hurt and okaysee came back. So I think you're onto something with this young team. Obviously, tonight is the series. If oka See wins, it's over up three to one.

But if minute, I vote to wins, and I think they got a shot at home.

But if minute, I vote to wins, and I think they got a shot at home.

Right, Yeah, they're well thunder or seven and one at home with a lot of blowouts. We watched them play Denver. There are three and three on the road. We saw Denver give them problems up in Denver. Now some of that may be altitude. I'm tonight's close. What does this spread? Three or four points? I think it should go either way. Game. It's gonna be a must watched fourth quarter.

Right, Yeah, they're well thunder or seven and one at home with a lot of blowouts. We watched them play Denver. There are three and three on the road. We saw Denver give them problems up in Denver. Now some of that may be altitude. I'm tonight's close. What does this spread? Three or four points? I think it should go either way. Game. It's gonna be a must watched fourth quarter.

I know the audience is gonna be upset after missing on Game one in both series.

I know the audience is gonna be upset after missing on Game one in both series.

I have not bet or looked at a line since that. I'm like, I don't get that.

I have not bet or looked at a line since that. I'm like, I don't get that.

I don't understand how the Knicks loses, how the timberrules are getting blown out.

I don't understand how the Knicks loses, how the timberrules are getting blown out.

So I haven't looked at the line yet.

So I haven't looked at the line yet.

I'm not betting it, but I do think this is another Anthony Edwards put the team on his back.

I'm not betting it, but I do think this is another Anthony Edwards put the team on his back.

He outscored OKC in the first quarter.

He outscored OKC in the first quarter.

Yeah, in Game three and that was kind of like a lights out moment Colin Finals story. This is adding to the Aaron Rodgers from earlier. How about this one?

Yeah, in Game three and that was kind of like a lights out moment Colin Finals story. This is adding to the Aaron Rodgers from earlier. How about this one?

There are reports.

There are reports.

Saying that Falcons.

Saying that Falcons.

Backup quarterback Kirk Cousins is on Pittsburgh's radar. The Falcons got Cousins last year and of course then drafted Pennix, and Cousins is kind of like the odd man out there.

Backup quarterback Kirk Cousins is on Pittsburgh's radar. The Falcons got Cousins last year and of course then drafted Pennix, and Cousins is kind of like the odd man out there.

It's gonna be Penis's team.

It's gonna be Penis's team.

The fact that this story is emerging on the same weekend as the Aaron Rodgers maybe not going to Pittsburgh thing.

The fact that this story is emerging on the same weekend as the Aaron Rodgers maybe not going to Pittsburgh thing.

I think there's some smoke here for sure.

I think there's some smoke here for sure.

I just don't know if Cousins is gonna work outdoors in Pittsburgh.

I just don't know if Cousins is gonna work outdoors in Pittsburgh.

I don't think that's a good match at all.

I don't think that's a good match at all.

Listen, Tomlin appears to be safe. I think he's signed an extension in the last year or too. Pittsburgh, if they listen, when you have Lamar Jackson and Burrow in your division, okay, those are two of the top five quarterbacks in the league. You have to find a franchise quarterback. You can't keep going out and hamming eg of it with Kenny Pickett and Will Howard. How do you get a franchise quarterback you win five to six games and have a top eight pick. Pittsburgh in my lifetime, has been great twice. Bradshawn is prime, Big Ben in his prime. Outside of that, they don't win big games. They just do not, even with Tomliner, Bill Kower, Chuck Nolan. So to me, this is the step back year, and I think if you can get into that six seven, you know you're still viable. Your defensive win games, you're not trying to lose, but you're limited. I would have no problem Pittsburgh just saying listen, we're gonna go with these young guys. Get It'd be one thing if you didn't have Lamar Jackson ten times in the next five years minimum, Burrow ten times the next five years minimum.

Listen, Tomlin appears to be safe. I think he's signed an extension in the last year or too. Pittsburgh, if they listen, when you have Lamar Jackson and Burrow in your division, okay, those are two of the top five quarterbacks in the league. You have to find a franchise quarterback. You can't keep going out and hamming eg of it with Kenny Pickett and Will Howard. How do you get a franchise quarterback you win five to six games and have a top eight pick. Pittsburgh in my lifetime, has been great twice. Bradshawn is prime, Big Ben in his prime. Outside of that, they don't win big games. They just do not, even with Tomliner, Bill Kower, Chuck Nolan. So to me, this is the step back year, and I think if you can get into that six seven, you know you're still viable. Your defensive win games, you're not trying to lose, but you're limited. I would have no problem Pittsburgh just saying listen, we're gonna go with these young guys. Get It'd be one thing if you didn't have Lamar Jackson ten times in the next five years minimum, Burrow ten times the next five years minimum.

Well, I like your idea of Hey, maybe you Ham and Naggett with Nathan Rudolph and Will Howard. Hey, why don't you add instead of five six wins, go to three four and trade DJ Watt. Go get a bunch of picks, and you're set up for and it's early what could be a great twenty twenty six draft.

Well, I like your idea of Hey, maybe you Ham and Naggett with Nathan Rudolph and Will Howard. Hey, why don't you add instead of five six wins, go to three four and trade DJ Watt. Go get a bunch of picks, and you're set up for and it's early what could be a great twenty twenty six draft.

Well, I don't want to trade TJ. Watt without getting a guarantee back. The problem with I would trade TJ. Watt if I could get the number one pick and it's arch Manning.

Well, I don't want to trade TJ. Watt without getting a guarantee back. The problem with I would trade TJ. Watt if I could get the number one pick and it's arch Manning.

There's no way, no, no, nobody's doing that.

There's no way, no, no, nobody's doing that.

But I'm not.

But I'm not.

What if you a potential contender, somebody who wants to make the playoffs badly, you know, let's go Jacksonville Jackson will say nay, we'll give up our first or any team you want. I would consider moving off, moving off of what would you not?

What if you a potential contender, somebody who wants to make the playoffs badly, you know, let's go Jacksonville Jackson will say nay, we'll give up our first or any team you want. I would consider moving off, moving off of what would you not?

Listen?

Listen?

Listen? Take quarterback out. You can move off virtually everybody except a great left tackle, Like I'm not going to move off Miles Garrett. Take quarterbacks out. You don't want to move off a great left tackle? That he's the insurance policy for your star quarterback. But we've seen Belichick fire and Andy Reid fired. You can move off legendary coaches. We've seen Montana play for the Chiefs, Brady play for the box. Like the idea that getting older with that with a handful of injuries, TJ. Watt can't be on the market, Like, get over it. He's a great player who would have massive value on the market. Not saying you'd do it. You take calls for that. He's a great player. He's had multiple injuries.

Listen? Take quarterback out. You can move off virtually everybody except a great left tackle, Like I'm not going to move off Miles Garrett. Take quarterbacks out. You don't want to move off a great left tackle? That he's the insurance policy for your star quarterback. But we've seen Belichick fire and Andy Reid fired. You can move off legendary coaches. We've seen Montana play for the Chiefs, Brady play for the box. Like the idea that getting older with that with a handful of injuries, TJ. Watt can't be on the market, Like, get over it. He's a great player who would have massive value on the market. Not saying you'd do it. You take calls for that. He's a great player. He's had multiple injuries.

Now he'd pay on Washington. They're gonna Washington could be a super Bowl team. I don't know, you know, maybe they'll give up their first next year. But I would just bought them out.

Now he'd pay on Washington. They're gonna Washington could be a super Bowl team. I don't know, you know, maybe they'll give up their first next year. But I would just bought them out.

I like your idea.

I like your idea.

I know that's a tough selle to the fan base that's been proud fan base. They make the playoffs five hundred every year. That's irrelevant. You want to be a contender. You got a bottom mountain.

I know that's a tough selle to the fan base that's been proud fan base. They make the playoffs five hundred every year. That's irrelevant. You want to be a contender. You got a bottom mountain.

Jamack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by Third Line News. So it is a little bit instructive here that Carl Anthony townsh did his great work last night in the fourth quarter, you know, and Jalen Brunson was not on the floor for a lot of it. So now I think the Pacers are a better team. I think they get more consistently easier looks on offense, and I think they're gonna win the series. But the most interesting part in this series for the Knicks is that it's not complicated to see what they are and what they're not. It's right up. They're not pretty, they don't shoot the three particularly well, and that Brunson and Kat often flourish when the others off the floor your turn, no, it's your turn. No, it's a your turn, my turn offense too often. And they're both poor defenders, so well coached offensive teams pick on them. So I would move off a talented erratic Cat, although I think he's talented, because I don't think Brunson and Cat on the floor. People just go after him and bad defenders, And I think it also we know what they're not, we know what they need. They need KD, who is a catch and shoot player, which is very valuable because you're gonna get Cat's points, You're gonna get twenty three to twenty five a game, better defender and he can play complimentary basketball with Jalen Brunson. Cat really doesn't. It's not all the Cat's a bad guy. But if you have him on the floor and Brunson, Brunson's not big, he's not long, he's not a great defender, liability. So Brunson leaves and Cat's like, Okay, now it's my turn. And not surprisingly, he's great because he's a gifted offensive player. Again, he averages twenty three in his career. But Katie is great without the ball in his hands. Katie is a plug and play, catch and shoot player. He is better defensively than Karl Anthony Towns. And I mean, you know, I mean think about this. When Karl Anthony Towns was in Minnesota before Ant arrived, he was at number one scoring option. So Carl Anthony Towns has a market. He's gonna average twenty two points a game for somebody. But I do think the Knicks, what you're seeing in this series, it's a pretty simple. You could be a basketball casual. They can't shoot the three consistently, KD. They need a star who doesn't need the ball in his hands a lot KD. They need length. If they keep Mitchell Robinson and move off Cat. They need length KD, they need a willing defender KD. They need a high basketball IQ because Brunson, Michale Bridges, this is a smart basketball team and a pretty relentless coach KD. It all fits like I and I listen. I go back when they were beating Boston and I'm like, I don't know if they need KD. But playoffs are layers steps. You know, against Detroit, you're like, wow, why are the Knicks struggling with Detroit? Because Detroit muddies it up and they had a hard time getting consistent baskets. And then you play Boston in your defense befuddles them and brunts and is great, and so you forget about that. But then they play Indiana and you're watching and you're going, yeah, they kind of need they need another shooter. And all these teams now with the multiple aprons, they're all going to be moving pieces. It is harder to move big pieces. But Cat's going to market. I don't think Kean Brunson in playoff basketball works. And if you're asking me everything, they need catch and shoot, plug and play high IQ, hit a three pointer. If Kat leaves, they need length and a willing defender. Every box is checked with KD. And let's be honest about Kat. The dude has value. You can't tell me he doesn't. He is a I mean you saw yesterday he is a at times an unstoppable offensive player who attacks downhill. And here's Kat after.

Jamack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by Third Line News. So it is a little bit instructive here that Carl Anthony townsh did his great work last night in the fourth quarter, you know, and Jalen Brunson was not on the floor for a lot of it. So now I think the Pacers are a better team. I think they get more consistently easier looks on offense, and I think they're gonna win the series. But the most interesting part in this series for the Knicks is that it's not complicated to see what they are and what they're not. It's right up. They're not pretty, they don't shoot the three particularly well, and that Brunson and Kat often flourish when the others off the floor your turn, no, it's your turn. No, it's a your turn, my turn offense too often. And they're both poor defenders, so well coached offensive teams pick on them. So I would move off a talented erratic Cat, although I think he's talented, because I don't think Brunson and Cat on the floor. People just go after him and bad defenders, And I think it also we know what they're not, we know what they need. They need KD, who is a catch and shoot player, which is very valuable because you're gonna get Cat's points, You're gonna get twenty three to twenty five a game, better defender and he can play complimentary basketball with Jalen Brunson. Cat really doesn't. It's not all the Cat's a bad guy. But if you have him on the floor and Brunson, Brunson's not big, he's not long, he's not a great defender, liability. So Brunson leaves and Cat's like, Okay, now it's my turn. And not surprisingly, he's great because he's a gifted offensive player. Again, he averages twenty three in his career. But Katie is great without the ball in his hands. Katie is a plug and play, catch and shoot player. He is better defensively than Karl Anthony Towns. And I mean, you know, I mean think about this. When Karl Anthony Towns was in Minnesota before Ant arrived, he was at number one scoring option. So Carl Anthony Towns has a market. He's gonna average twenty two points a game for somebody. But I do think the Knicks, what you're seeing in this series, it's a pretty simple. You could be a basketball casual. They can't shoot the three consistently, KD. They need a star who doesn't need the ball in his hands a lot KD. They need length. If they keep Mitchell Robinson and move off Cat. They need length KD, they need a willing defender KD. They need a high basketball IQ because Brunson, Michale Bridges, this is a smart basketball team and a pretty relentless coach KD. It all fits like I and I listen. I go back when they were beating Boston and I'm like, I don't know if they need KD. But playoffs are layers steps. You know, against Detroit, you're like, wow, why are the Knicks struggling with Detroit? Because Detroit muddies it up and they had a hard time getting consistent baskets. And then you play Boston in your defense befuddles them and brunts and is great, and so you forget about that. But then they play Indiana and you're watching and you're going, yeah, they kind of need they need another shooter. And all these teams now with the multiple aprons, they're all going to be moving pieces. It is harder to move big pieces. But Cat's going to market. I don't think Kean Brunson in playoff basketball works. And if you're asking me everything, they need catch and shoot, plug and play high IQ, hit a three pointer. If Kat leaves, they need length and a willing defender. Every box is checked with KD. And let's be honest about Kat. The dude has value. You can't tell me he doesn't. He is a I mean you saw yesterday he is a at times an unstoppable offensive player who attacks downhill. And here's Kat after.

So opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put into the gym, and the game wasn't looking great for me as well, but for all of us then I just wanted to do whatever it takes to help put us in a position to win.

So opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put into the gym, and the game wasn't looking great for me as well, but for all of us then I just wanted to do whatever it takes to help put us in a position to win.

Yeah, it's not a criticism. The guy's got to market. This is pro sports. Michael Jordan finished with the Wizards. You know, it's never pretty in the end. But Kat's not in his prime, but he has quarters like last night, and they're fairly regular. And by the way, I was thinking about this, if if Jason Tatum is out for the Celtics next year and we don't even know what Cleveland is right now, right like, we're not sure what Cleveland is. We know Indiana is gonna be good, but they're gonna have a Miles Turner dilemma. They're not gonna be able to keep him because they're gonna keep past Gal Siakam, you have to. You're gonna keep Halliburton. You've got a bunch of other rotational guys you like. They're gonna probably lose Miles Turner, so they're gonna lose some of their length, and term matters for big teams. If Yanna stays in Milwaukee, it matters. So there's gonna be a lot of movement, a lot of little pieces moving in New York. And I think this series has really you can be a basketball casual, you know what they need, and I think Katie checks all of those boxes. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong twenty five minutes from now coming up. The players who absolutely there's four maybe a coach, maybe a player that I think change outcomes in the NFL. This is all based on the story that came out today regarding the most valuable New plea year player for every team in the league.

Yeah, it's not a criticism. The guy's got to market. This is pro sports. Michael Jordan finished with the Wizards. You know, it's never pretty in the end. But Kat's not in his prime, but he has quarters like last night, and they're fairly regular. And by the way, I was thinking about this, if if Jason Tatum is out for the Celtics next year and we don't even know what Cleveland is right now, right like, we're not sure what Cleveland is. We know Indiana is gonna be good, but they're gonna have a Miles Turner dilemma. They're not gonna be able to keep him because they're gonna keep past Gal Siakam, you have to. You're gonna keep Halliburton. You've got a bunch of other rotational guys you like. They're gonna probably lose Miles Turner, so they're gonna lose some of their length, and term matters for big teams. If Yanna stays in Milwaukee, it matters. So there's gonna be a lot of movement, a lot of little pieces moving in New York. And I think this series has really you can be a basketball casual, you know what they need, and I think Katie checks all of those boxes. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong twenty five minutes from now coming up. The players who absolutely there's four maybe a coach, maybe a player that I think change outcomes in the NFL. This is all based on the story that came out today regarding the most valuable New plea year player for every team in the league.

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Hour two on a Memorial Day Monday. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however, and you're listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. J mcmatt. Hasselbeck is around the corner. You've got a story on Caitlin Clark at the bottom of the hour. I hope you had a great weekend. You ran into Lebron James, you said, in a volleyball tournament, a.

Hour two on a Memorial Day Monday. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however, and you're listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. J mcmatt. Hasselbeck is around the corner. You've got a story on Caitlin Clark at the bottom of the hour. I hope you had a great weekend. You ran into Lebron James, you said, in a volleyball tournament, a.

Used volleyball tournament. He attracted a big crowd. Hey, quick question. Let me ask you, and I know you're not a big social media.

Used volleyball tournament. He attracted a big crowd. Hey, quick question. Let me ask you, and I know you're not a big social media.

Guy on weekend, You've got a bubbly life out there in the Midwest. When you put something out about Caitlin Clark during one of her games, do you see like a just a tsunami of a reaction. Everybody seems to have thoughts on Caitlyn Clark. Is she's probably more polarizing than any NBA player right now.

Guy on weekend, You've got a bubbly life out there in the Midwest. When you put something out about Caitlin Clark during one of her games, do you see like a just a tsunami of a reaction. Everybody seems to have thoughts on Caitlyn Clark. Is she's probably more polarizing than any NBA player right now.

Yeah, I don't get the polarizing. She's good. Yeah, let's enjoy her. I don't get, like I understand. I do understand a little bit of the animosity with players. You know, It's like when Bryce Harper came in baseball, nobody paid attention to us. Now you like the flashy new player and her game is flashy, so I get some animosity. But I always felt this. I remember when Manny Ramirez left the Red Sox and he came back, and people were like, yeah, I don't know if I like him and might take his You're the Red Sox. You could never beat the Yankees. I don't care what you think of Kurt Shilling or Manny Ramirez. You beat the Yankees. You won rings with them. Like, if somebody makes my life better, like, I don't care if it's your ex wife, If you had fifteen great years, appreciate it. That's a big chapter in your life. That was good. So Kaitlin Clark's making everybody's life better. You can fly Spirit Airlines or you can upgrade to private. That alone is a thank you card in gift. I mean to me, I don't get the polarization. All right, we do it every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong, and plenty.

Yeah, I don't get the polarizing. She's good. Yeah, let's enjoy her. I don't get, like I understand. I do understand a little bit of the animosity with players. You know, It's like when Bryce Harper came in baseball, nobody paid attention to us. Now you like the flashy new player and her game is flashy, so I get some animosity. But I always felt this. I remember when Manny Ramirez left the Red Sox and he came back, and people were like, yeah, I don't know if I like him and might take his You're the Red Sox. You could never beat the Yankees. I don't care what you think of Kurt Shilling or Manny Ramirez. You beat the Yankees. You won rings with them. Like, if somebody makes my life better, like, I don't care if it's your ex wife, If you had fifteen great years, appreciate it. That's a big chapter in your life. That was good. So Kaitlin Clark's making everybody's life better. You can fly Spirit Airlines or you can upgrade to private. That alone is a thank you card in gift. I mean to me, I don't get the polarization. All right, we do it every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong, and plenty.

Of votes where Colin was right.

Of votes where Colin was right.

Well, my inclination was when the push push got pushed through, it was because of Jason Kelsey, the soon to be Hall of Famer center for the Philadelphia Eagles, who stood in front of the owners in a suit, got in a stance and made a declaration that it was safe. And the stories out today is Jason Kelsey indeed was the reason he changed about three to four votes that it passed. Listen, the Health and Safety Committee of the NFL wants to get rid of it, so it had to be an influencer. It had to be somebody with great conviction to sell it, an owner or a player or a coach. And the reports are it was as we speculated Jason Kelsey.

Well, my inclination was when the push push got pushed through, it was because of Jason Kelsey, the soon to be Hall of Famer center for the Philadelphia Eagles, who stood in front of the owners in a suit, got in a stance and made a declaration that it was safe. And the stories out today is Jason Kelsey indeed was the reason he changed about three to four votes that it passed. Listen, the Health and Safety Committee of the NFL wants to get rid of it, so it had to be an influencer. It had to be somebody with great conviction to sell it, an owner or a player or a coach. And the reports are it was as we speculated Jason Kelsey.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

PFF came out last week ranked quarterbacks, all of them. Dak Prescott was seventeenth, one spot ahead of two um and that's exactly right. I know y'all love him. He's a cowboy and he's rich. And his intangibles from maturity to focus to leadership, I agree they're a plus. But as a thrower of the football, as an athlete, it's CC plus B minus. He is, especially after a second major surgery in the middle of the pack. And I appreciate PFF nailing.

PFF came out last week ranked quarterbacks, all of them. Dak Prescott was seventeenth, one spot ahead of two um and that's exactly right. I know y'all love him. He's a cowboy and he's rich. And his intangibles from maturity to focus to leadership, I agree they're a plus. But as a thrower of the football, as an athlete, it's CC plus B minus. He is, especially after a second major surgery in the middle of the pack. And I appreciate PFF nailing.

Where Colin was wrong.

Where Colin was wrong.

The Lakers need a deal, Austin reeves. I don't get the fascination, but Dan Woike reporting the organization loves him and the only have to pay him next year fourteen million, and they see him as an absolute steal. I see him as a guy that got worked athletically against Minnesota's wing players. I see him as a guy that should be the fourth best player on a championship level team. I think he's a little less talented than Derek White, who I feel the same way about. If he's your fourth best player, you should be buying for championships. But I'm wrong. Apparently, where Colin was right, Insiders now saying Jeremy Fowler reports that Aaron Rodgers many believe has his eye on Minnesota and that is why he hasn't signed with Pittsburgh. It's not just necessarily the personal reasons. I don't know it to be true, but I have speculated he's too smart to think Pittsburgh's a good fit. Burrow twice a year with better offensive teammates and a better offensive coach Lamar Jackson in a better organization twice a year. Pittsburgh is a bunch of l's even with Aaron Rodgers, and I think he knows it.

The Lakers need a deal, Austin reeves. I don't get the fascination, but Dan Woike reporting the organization loves him and the only have to pay him next year fourteen million, and they see him as an absolute steal. I see him as a guy that got worked athletically against Minnesota's wing players. I see him as a guy that should be the fourth best player on a championship level team. I think he's a little less talented than Derek White, who I feel the same way about. If he's your fourth best player, you should be buying for championships. But I'm wrong. Apparently, where Colin was right, Insiders now saying Jeremy Fowler reports that Aaron Rodgers many believe has his eye on Minnesota and that is why he hasn't signed with Pittsburgh. It's not just necessarily the personal reasons. I don't know it to be true, but I have speculated he's too smart to think Pittsburgh's a good fit. Burrow twice a year with better offensive teammates and a better offensive coach Lamar Jackson in a better organization twice a year. Pittsburgh is a bunch of l's even with Aaron Rodgers, and I think he knows it.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Zach Ede made the All Rookie team, the former produced star. I didn't understand the pushback on him. Mark Few came on our show and said he never faced an offensive college player that unstoppable. Dan Hurley came on the hurt and said, the NBA doesn't know what they're talking about. He's going to work in this league and for Memphis. He made the All Rookie team. He's a guy that just kept grinding. He got better sophomore junior, junior's senior year, and I think you're gonna see continued improvement. He clearly has an excellent work ethic. Where Colin was wrong, the Eagles signed an extension to Nick Siriani. You know, I don't quite get the vibe. I think there's a lot of circumstances like Howie Roseman and Jalen Hurts and say Barkley in the old line that elevated him. But you know what, the players like him. I don't have to get everybody. I mean, Philadelphia is a loud, high volume, high intensity town, and there's an argument he fits the Eagles more than any other team. So I can take it wrong on that.

Zach Ede made the All Rookie team, the former produced star. I didn't understand the pushback on him. Mark Few came on our show and said he never faced an offensive college player that unstoppable. Dan Hurley came on the hurt and said, the NBA doesn't know what they're talking about. He's going to work in this league and for Memphis. He made the All Rookie team. He's a guy that just kept grinding. He got better sophomore junior, junior's senior year, and I think you're gonna see continued improvement. He clearly has an excellent work ethic. Where Colin was wrong, the Eagles signed an extension to Nick Siriani. You know, I don't quite get the vibe. I think there's a lot of circumstances like Howie Roseman and Jalen Hurts and say Barkley in the old line that elevated him. But you know what, the players like him. I don't have to get everybody. I mean, Philadelphia is a loud, high volume, high intensity town, and there's an argument he fits the Eagles more than any other team. So I can take it wrong on that.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Oh, Jordan Hudson reportedly wearing a new ring and not wanted Belichick's Super Bowl rings. It could be an engagement ring. Since I'm the only American media member that does appear to approve of this relationship, once again proving I am not only America's honesty broker, but I'm a hopeless romantic. I see it working. I think they like each other. Relationships can be complicated, but there is a report that they have a future, that these two are a real thing. Where Colin was right NBA Western Finals between Minnesota and OKC. As a ratings dud I said, I think the Knicks Pacers is going to get great eight numbers, and it has. This is not a needle mover. Sga is not a dynamic player. He's just a great score. It's a small market and Minnesota is not a huge basketball brand, so it doesn't surprise me that this is just not moving the needle. Like I think tonight could be the best game of the series. If Minnesota wins it, I think that helps. If OKC wins, I think the ratings are just going to be abysmal. We've had this before Duncan in the Spurs when they were running the league. We're not a captivating team. Duncan was great, but he was a big fundamental. He wasn't dynamic, he wasn't a big personality.

Oh, Jordan Hudson reportedly wearing a new ring and not wanted Belichick's Super Bowl rings. It could be an engagement ring. Since I'm the only American media member that does appear to approve of this relationship, once again proving I am not only America's honesty broker, but I'm a hopeless romantic. I see it working. I think they like each other. Relationships can be complicated, but there is a report that they have a future, that these two are a real thing. Where Colin was right NBA Western Finals between Minnesota and OKC. As a ratings dud I said, I think the Knicks Pacers is going to get great eight numbers, and it has. This is not a needle mover. Sga is not a dynamic player. He's just a great score. It's a small market and Minnesota is not a huge basketball brand, so it doesn't surprise me that this is just not moving the needle. Like I think tonight could be the best game of the series. If Minnesota wins it, I think that helps. If OKC wins, I think the ratings are just going to be abysmal. We've had this before Duncan in the Spurs when they were running the league. We're not a captivating team. Duncan was great, but he was a big fundamental. He wasn't dynamic, he wasn't a big personality.

It happens where Colin was raw.

It happens where Colin was raw.

Kenny Pickett, now viewed as the front runner for the Cleveland Browns quarterback kick. I don't get it. Just I'm gonna die on this hill. Shador Sanders is going to win this job. Picket's on his third team in four years in his NFL career, fifteen touchdowns, fourteen picks. I don't get it. You know, nice kid. I think he's a backup. I think he loves football. But I said it when he came out. He's more of a second mid, third round picked. He didn't pop on TV. He did have one great college play where he was gonna slide. He faked it, stood ran, We all ran on a thousand times. But I don't see it as a franchise quarterback. Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years in the NFL joins US live. I don't ask you about the tush push. You can tell from the committees the league wants to get rid of it, and Jeffrey Lewie has you know, the Eagles are a respected franchise. And Jason Kelcey obviously, you know he's just one of those guys, the grinder he's loved by the NFL community. Do you think that passes for a year? If I said five years, Tush push, do you think it's gonna last?

Kenny Pickett, now viewed as the front runner for the Cleveland Browns quarterback kick. I don't get it. Just I'm gonna die on this hill. Shador Sanders is going to win this job. Picket's on his third team in four years in his NFL career, fifteen touchdowns, fourteen picks. I don't get it. You know, nice kid. I think he's a backup. I think he loves football. But I said it when he came out. He's more of a second mid, third round picked. He didn't pop on TV. He did have one great college play where he was gonna slide. He faked it, stood ran, We all ran on a thousand times. But I don't see it as a franchise quarterback. Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years in the NFL joins US live. I don't ask you about the tush push. You can tell from the committees the league wants to get rid of it, and Jeffrey Lewie has you know, the Eagles are a respected franchise. And Jason Kelcey obviously, you know he's just one of those guys, the grinder he's loved by the NFL community. Do you think that passes for a year? If I said five years, Tush push, do you think it's gonna last?

No, I don't think it's gonna last. And I don't think they want.

No, I don't think it's gonna last. And I don't think they want.

To get rid of it. I just think they don't know what to do with it. You know, they really don't. And it's it's I think you said it earlier. It's a health and safety issue. That's how you move the needle on these things. There's probably just no data that shows that this is a play people get injured.

To get rid of it. I just think they don't know what to do with it. You know, they really don't. And it's it's I think you said it earlier. It's a health and safety issue. That's how you move the needle on these things. There's probably just no data that shows that this is a play people get injured.

You know what.

You know what.

The NFL doesn't want.

The NFL doesn't want.

They don't want wasted plays like the extra point when they moved it back, and they don't want plays that the injury rate goes up, you lose star players.

They don't want wasted plays like the extra point when they moved it back, and they don't want plays that the injury rate goes up, you lose star players.

You know.

You know.

I thought actually in the Super Bowl when Chris Jones went down, I thought, oh, well, if he gets hurt on this play, then this play has no has no future.

I thought actually in the Super Bowl when Chris Jones went down, I thought, oh, well, if he gets hurt on this play, then this play has no has no future.

But I just don't think the data is there.

But I just don't think the data is there.

And you know, Jason Kelsey talking to the team, to the you know, to the competition committee, that's not unusual. Like I remember, you know, one time on the extra point they brought in Adam Van Terry to talk about that extra point situation. They brought in different long snappers that had gotten hurt on extra point plays, and you know, they brought in special teams.

And you know, Jason Kelsey talking to the team, to the you know, to the competition committee, that's not unusual. Like I remember, you know, one time on the extra point they brought in Adam Van Terry to talk about that extra point situation. They brought in different long snappers that had gotten hurt on extra point plays, and you know, they brought in special teams.

People to talk about the kickoff and the kickoff return. So it's not unusual.

People to talk about the kickoff and the kickoff return. So it's not unusual.

I just think that some people present their case better than others, and I would imagine Jason Kelsey was probably pretty persuasive.

I just think that some people present their case better than others, and I would imagine Jason Kelsey was probably pretty persuasive.

So on the Aaron Rodgers thing, when you're I mean, at some point players get older, like Kirk Cousins, and you do have leverage because you have two hundred million dollars in the bank and you don't want to play you don't want to play it. Aaron certainly earned it, He's made a fortune. There's talk about personal stuff. My take has always been smart people are often too smart to try to fool me that they're interested in something that's not smart. Pittsburgh's a tone deaf offensive culture. Minnesota is a really good offensive culture. If you are a quarterback and you maybe have a year or two left of all the teams New Orleans, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, what would be your process on eliminating and including teams? What does matter to an older quarterback?

So on the Aaron Rodgers thing, when you're I mean, at some point players get older, like Kirk Cousins, and you do have leverage because you have two hundred million dollars in the bank and you don't want to play you don't want to play it. Aaron certainly earned it, He's made a fortune. There's talk about personal stuff. My take has always been smart people are often too smart to try to fool me that they're interested in something that's not smart. Pittsburgh's a tone deaf offensive culture. Minnesota is a really good offensive culture. If you are a quarterback and you maybe have a year or two left of all the teams New Orleans, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, what would be your process on eliminating and including teams? What does matter to an older quarterback?

Well, who likes me back. That's a really important thing. Like, yeah, I've been seeing the reports that Aaron Rodgers would prefer Minnesota, who would not like everyone would great great play caller, great head coach, great skill around you, amazing defense on the other side of the ball. Yeah, I get it, but they seem to be already settled on JJ McCarthy as their quarterback. So I don't think listen to quarterback free agency situation when you're at the end of your career. It's very similar to musical chairs. There's only a certain amount of chairs when the music stops. The music stops. And so I've been saying this for a long time. I believe I said it on your show. Aaron Rodgers is gonna be with the Pittsburgh Steelers. All this other talk about all these other teams, it's not happening. I do not see it happening. There's no rush for a veteran quarterback. I think I said it on your show. There's no way he's signing before May twenty seven. Absolutely no way you signed before phase phase three. There's no reason to, especially if you're a guy has experienced as a rod So I mean to me, I think that June ninth time when they have that mandatory mini camp, is like, all right, if it's not you, then we got to move on as the Steelers. But to me, listen, is it the best situation out there? No, but it needs to be mutual acceptance. And the music's about to stop soon here and he's gonna have to sit down or get out.