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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher on Fox Sports Radio.

This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher on Fox Sports Radio.

What is up, everybody?

What is up, everybody?

It's me Jason MacIntyre in for Colin Cowherd on a beautiful Monday morning out here on they Colin vacationing. Yes, this week, nobody takes more vacations than the big guy. I'm George today by Alex Hurry.

It's me Jason MacIntyre in for Colin Cowherd on a beautiful Monday morning out here on they Colin vacationing. Yes, this week, nobody takes more vacations than the big guy. I'm George today by Alex Hurry.

Alex Oh, we have a break show. It's the staff.

Alex Oh, we have a break show. It's the staff.

We got find some great stuff.

We got find some great stuff.

We're gonna have a great week con and kick on on vacations.

We're gonna have a great week con and kick on on vacations.

We're hold down the floor. We're gonna have a great time. Listen. We're doing our best. How is your weekend? With a phenomenal or excellent?

We're hold down the floor. We're gonna have a great time. Listen. We're doing our best. How is your weekend? With a phenomenal or excellent?

And just a joke, you know, I try to make every day the best day ever. It's kind of my mindset in life.

And just a joke, you know, I try to make every day the best day ever. It's kind of my mindset in life.

So yeah, we did good. We did good to Oh.

So yeah, we did good. We did good to Oh.

Yeah, soon as I'm on to June.

Yeah, soon as I'm on to June.

Kids are finishing up school, you got the weather warming up. I know you're gonna be going to the beach a lot grateful for.

Kids are finishing up school, you got the weather warming up. I know you're gonna be going to the beach a lot grateful for.

Well, yeah, we live at the beach, so it's like that's you know, Yeah, we're very We're spoiled. I don't like bragging about it too much live on National TV because we live and I mean I'm biased cause I'm born and raised here like one of the most beautiful places in the country.

Well, yeah, we live at the beach, so it's like that's you know, Yeah, we're very We're spoiled. I don't like bragging about it too much live on National TV because we live and I mean I'm biased cause I'm born and raised here like one of the most beautiful places in the country.

But yeah, no, we're lucky.

But yeah, no, we're lucky.

Yeah we are.

Yeah we are.

And you guys are lucky because we got a phenomenal show today. Great guess I do have to start with some bad news and.

And you guys are lucky because we got a phenomenal show today. Great guess I do have to start with some bad news and.

It involved my New York Knicks.

It involved my New York Knicks.

I'm ride or die for this team.

I'm ride or die for this team.

My first game I ever went to as an NBA fan was the Knicks way back when I was a kid, and their season came to a difficult end Saturday night in Indy. Nicks kind of fell apart in the second half, got a little frustrated Jalen Brunson delivering a head butt.

My first game I ever went to as an NBA fan was the Knicks way back when I was a kid, and their season came to a difficult end Saturday night in Indy. Nicks kind of fell apart in the second half, got a little frustrated Jalen Brunson delivering a head butt.

It did not end well, but it was a great season.

It did not end well, but it was a great season.

Let's not lose the fact that the Knicks had their best season this century, and of course there's hand ringing from Knicks fans.

Let's not lose the fact that the Knicks had their best season this century, and of course there's hand ringing from Knicks fans.

What do we do? Do we fire Dibbodeaux? Do we trade Karl Anthony Towns?

What do we do? Do we fire Dibbodeaux? Do we trade Karl Anthony Towns?

Hey j Mack, I got an idea we could move off mckil bridges and get two role players.

Hey j Mack, I got an idea we could move off mckil bridges and get two role players.

What do you think?

What do you think?

What are the moves?

What are the moves?

And you know, listen, guys, I am reactionary. Sometimes I try to be level headed. Saturday night, when the game ended, I need to take a few deep breaths, and then Sunday I get my thoughts cleared. And you know Colin likes to call himself America's honesty broker. Well, I'm here to tell you, as the commander in truth that the New York Knicks need to stand pat and not be reactionary, not overreact. Let's not pander to blow hard New York radio hosts or back pages screaming about change. Sometimes the move is to do nothing obvious. You could take around the edges, the Knixt bench, have a bunch of guys whose contracts are up, and we can make some moves. I'll talk about them shortly, but overall, big picture, we don't need to make any big moves.

And you know, listen, guys, I am reactionary. Sometimes I try to be level headed. Saturday night, when the game ended, I need to take a few deep breaths, and then Sunday I get my thoughts cleared. And you know Colin likes to call himself America's honesty broker. Well, I'm here to tell you, as the commander in truth that the New York Knicks need to stand pat and not be reactionary, not overreact. Let's not pander to blow hard New York radio hosts or back pages screaming about change. Sometimes the move is to do nothing obvious. You could take around the edges, the Knixt bench, have a bunch of guys whose contracts are up, and we can make some moves. I'll talk about them shortly, but overall, big picture, we don't need to make any big moves.

And I will point to the Indiana Pacers.

And I will point to the Indiana Pacers.

Okay, last year, the Indiana Pacers went up against the Knicks, beat them in seven, go to the conference finals, and they get swept by Boston. Of course, Indiana in the Midwest, they're a little more chill. Hey, what moves can we make? The Pacers did nothing, not one move among their top seven. Kept the head coach Carlisle. They're in the NBA Finals. Sometimes the move is to not make any big moves. So Jalen Brunson was asked after Game six, Hey, Tabodah had a rough series. Is it time to move on? Here's Jalen Brunson talking about his head coach.

Okay, last year, the Indiana Pacers went up against the Knicks, beat them in seven, go to the conference finals, and they get swept by Boston. Of course, Indiana in the Midwest, they're a little more chill. Hey, what moves can we make? The Pacers did nothing, not one move among their top seven. Kept the head coach Carlisle. They're in the NBA Finals. Sometimes the move is to not make any big moves. So Jalen Brunson was asked after Game six, Hey, Tabodah had a rough series. Is it time to move on? Here's Jalen Brunson talking about his head coach.

That's so like, nobody takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has turned around during his tenure. So you kind of feel that going forward, he's the same guy to fift you guys, the rest of the wise and next level.

That's so like, nobody takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has turned around during his tenure. So you kind of feel that going forward, he's the same guy to fift you guys, the rest of the wise and next level.

Is that a real quest right now?

Is that a real quest right now?

I mean the center he just asked me him.

I mean the center he just asked me him.

I believe that if he's ever the right guy. Yes, thanks, guys, that's Fudny.

I believe that if he's ever the right guy. Yes, thanks, guys, that's Fudny.

Brunston handled it well.

Brunston handled it well.

You could say he handled that question better than he handled the Indiana.

You could say he handled that question better than he handled the Indiana.

Pressure in the series.

Pressure in the series.

Brunson was good. Obviously.

Brunson was good. Obviously.

I think he's leading the NBA in playoff scoring. He's had a great postseason. I do think we need a little less Brunson next year, maybe.

I think he's leading the NBA in playoff scoring. He's had a great postseason. I do think we need a little less Brunson next year, maybe.

Leonard or benchmore.

Leonard or benchmore.

I saw stat that the Knicks starters this season average like ninety seven points per game, which was the highest in the NBA in like forty eight years. News flash, Thibadeau, you got to make some more changes. And I've been yelling from the rooftops, Tibbs, you got to put up or shut up. He beat Boston guys. They took down the defending champs. But let's not gloss over that fact. I know Tatum got hurt, but the Knicks we're in control of that series anyway at that point. So I'm actually here as the commander in truth to tell you Nix, we're not going after Giannis.

I saw stat that the Knicks starters this season average like ninety seven points per game, which was the highest in the NBA in like forty eight years. News flash, Thibadeau, you got to make some more changes. And I've been yelling from the rooftops, Tibbs, you got to put up or shut up. He beat Boston guys. They took down the defending champs. But let's not gloss over that fact. I know Tatum got hurt, but the Knicks we're in control of that series anyway at that point. So I'm actually here as the commander in truth to tell you Nix, we're not going after Giannis.

Knicks.

Knicks.

We don't need Kevin Durant.

We don't need Kevin Durant.

I think the pieces are in place for the Knicks to get back to the conference finals and.

I think the pieces are in place for the Knicks to get back to the conference finals and.

Extend to the NBA Finals next year.

Extend to the NBA Finals next year.

Let me remind you, Giannis is gonna be shipped from Milwaukee, and there's a good chance he goes West, although there is a team in the East we're gonna talk about that's making a move on him currently. But like the Cleveland Cavaliers, do they scare you? Do the Pacers really terrify you? They had a great series. But the Celtics the best team in the East by far. They're gonna be without Jason Tatum next year?

Let me remind you, Giannis is gonna be shipped from Milwaukee, and there's a good chance he goes West, although there is a team in the East we're gonna talk about that's making a move on him currently. But like the Cleveland Cavaliers, do they scare you? Do the Pacers really terrify you? They had a great series. But the Celtics the best team in the East by far. They're gonna be without Jason Tatum next year?

Do the Achilles?

Do the Achilles?

The East is wide open. And oh, by the way, Knicks fans, I know we're upset. Quick reminder. We were favored in the series against the Pacers. And oh, by the way, Game one, if the Knicks don't blow a fourteen point lead in the final three minutes, what happens in that series?

The East is wide open. And oh, by the way, Knicks fans, I know we're upset. Quick reminder. We were favored in the series against the Pacers. And oh, by the way, Game one, if the Knicks don't blow a fourteen point lead in the final three minutes, what happens in that series?

Do things go in a different direction?

Do things go in a different direction?

Like the Knicks are close, They're right there, And sometimes New York fans the best move is to do nothing. So commander and truth, says Nicks Stan Pat no Jannis, no KD.

Like the Knicks are close, They're right there, And sometimes New York fans the best move is to do nothing. So commander and truth, says Nicks Stan Pat no Jannis, no KD.

We're good. All right.

We're good. All right.

Let's move to the NFL and a much disier topic that is not very rosy, and that's the Cleveland Browns. And I'm sure there's a segment of the NFL population already sick of the Shadoor Sanders talk. I know for a fact Kevin Stefanski is because He's gonna be facing questions about it all week at OTA's folks. Dion Sanders is an unbelievable football talent, and he looks like he's a pretty damn good head coach too.

Let's move to the NFL and a much disier topic that is not very rosy, and that's the Cleveland Browns. And I'm sure there's a segment of the NFL population already sick of the Shadoor Sanders talk. I know for a fact Kevin Stefanski is because He's gonna be facing questions about it all week at OTA's folks. Dion Sanders is an unbelievable football talent, and he looks like he's a pretty damn good head coach too.

As a kid growing up, I remember Deon Sanders.

As a kid growing up, I remember Deon Sanders.

He was unbelievable, okay, with the Falcons, with the Niners, like, just a great career. The one thing I liked, which is not serving him well now, is that he loved to run his mouth. I love trash talking. Yes, I play in men's basketball leagues. Sometimes I run my mouth too much. I've dowbed it back in my advanced age. Dion, you need to do the same, my guy. So, Dion Sanders was on a podcast this week, the same what Needs to Be Said podcast. Meanwhile, we haven't heard from Dion about his song about the Browns since the draft. Take a deep breath, folks, because Dion's talking again. Here's what he had to say.

He was unbelievable, okay, with the Falcons, with the Niners, like, just a great career. The one thing I liked, which is not serving him well now, is that he loved to run his mouth. I love trash talking. Yes, I play in men's basketball leagues. Sometimes I run my mouth too much. I've dowbed it back in my advanced age. Dion, you need to do the same, my guy. So, Dion Sanders was on a podcast this week, the same what Needs to Be Said podcast. Meanwhile, we haven't heard from Dion about his song about the Browns since the draft. Take a deep breath, folks, because Dion's talking again. Here's what he had to say.

When you sit up there and say something like he went in a meeting, I'm prepared, like dude, Chador Sanders, who's had six different coordinators, Stop lying like you got to understand. My kids are built for everything. They want to create. These narratives and create these stories and then attach them to a kid that ain't never done nothing wrong. You're gonna tell me he had on headphone, Chadors, anybody know my son? I understand he's a professional, Like he's gonna go in to a meeting with headphones on?

When you sit up there and say something like he went in a meeting, I'm prepared, like dude, Chador Sanders, who's had six different coordinators, Stop lying like you got to understand. My kids are built for everything. They want to create. These narratives and create these stories and then attach them to a kid that ain't never done nothing wrong. You're gonna tell me he had on headphone, Chadors, anybody know my son? I understand he's a professional, Like he's gonna go in to a meeting with headphones on?

Like, yo, come, it did hurt? Not good, not good at all.

Like, yo, come, it did hurt? Not good, not good at all.

This, my friends, is why Shador Sanders fell in the draft. I thought it was probably fifty percent Dion fifty percent Shador. I'm now thinking NFLT front offices were just like no thank you on Shador standers precisely because of this, folks. It's the beginning of June and Dion is already complaining about his son and what went down at the draft.

This, my friends, is why Shador Sanders fell in the draft. I thought it was probably fifty percent Dion fifty percent Shador. I'm now thinking NFLT front offices were just like no thank you on Shador standers precisely because of this, folks. It's the beginning of June and Dion is already complaining about his son and what went down at the draft.

And you know there are teams that passed on Dion this morning.

And you know there are teams that passed on Dion this morning.

That's why we didn't want him, Joe Shane and Brian Dable looking at their owner.

That's why we didn't want him, Joe Shane and Brian Dable looking at their owner.

I told you we don't.

I told you we don't.

Need this crap.

Need this crap.

And again, I'm not gonna challenge what Dion said. It doesn't really matter. Did he wear headphones to a meeting with a team.

And again, I'm not gonna challenge what Dion said. It doesn't really matter. Did he wear headphones to a meeting with a team.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That seems like something weird to make up for a team, but Dion's pushback is, oh, what do you.

That seems like something weird to make up for a team, but Dion's pushback is, oh, what do you.

Wear headphones to a meeting?

Wear headphones to a meeting?

Well, he either did or didn't.

Well, he either did or didn't.

And oh, by the way, this whole uh, he had six offensive coordinators. That's not denying what went down at the meeting, him being unprepared. And again, Shador has an uphill climb in Cleveland. And I think a lot of it has to do with exactly what Dion's saying on this podcast. So, Kevin Stefanski's gonna show up at OTA's this week and he's not gonna get asked about. Hey, how's Miles Garrett looking in the defense? What's up with Nick Chubb? Have you made a decision? How about the wide receiver room? You know a lot of change there, Eddie quarterback update, It's not gonna be any of that. It's gonna be so Dion Sanders said this, and now you're getting questions about your fourth string quarterback in June.

And oh, by the way, this whole uh, he had six offensive coordinators. That's not denying what went down at the meeting, him being unprepared. And again, Shador has an uphill climb in Cleveland. And I think a lot of it has to do with exactly what Dion's saying on this podcast. So, Kevin Stefanski's gonna show up at OTA's this week and he's not gonna get asked about. Hey, how's Miles Garrett looking in the defense? What's up with Nick Chubb? Have you made a decision? How about the wide receiver room? You know a lot of change there, Eddie quarterback update, It's not gonna be any of that. It's gonna be so Dion Sanders said this, and now you're getting questions about your fourth string quarterback in June.

And folks, it ain't gonna end here.

And folks, it ain't gonna end here.

This is gonna.

This is gonna.

Continue anytime Dion steps in front of a microphone. Nobody cares about the collar Botto buffaloes. Right now, Travis Hunter's in the NFL setor's gone. You know what they're gonna ask Deon. Hey, you know Kenny Pickett through three picks a preseason, gave Dion your thoughts. And Dion, who has a history of talking, I mean that's what made him famous as wife prime time. You think he's gonna be able to stand down and pull back folks. I thought of an analogy this morning, and I'm like, wait a sec. So arch Manning at Texas was beat out in back to back years by Quinn yours and you could argue, hey, he was a young guy.

Continue anytime Dion steps in front of a microphone. Nobody cares about the collar Botto buffaloes. Right now, Travis Hunter's in the NFL setor's gone. You know what they're gonna ask Deon. Hey, you know Kenny Pickett through three picks a preseason, gave Dion your thoughts. And Dion, who has a history of talking, I mean that's what made him famous as wife prime time. You think he's gonna be able to stand down and pull back folks. I thought of an analogy this morning, and I'm like, wait a sec. So arch Manning at Texas was beat out in back to back years by Quinn yours and you could argue, hey, he was a young guy.

Okay, fine, but.

Okay, fine, but.

You know in Texas fans there were a lot of them ready for Arch Manning and arch Manning's parents and Peyton and Eli, all the Mannings. They've done a ton of interviews, they're on red carpets all the time. They could have easily said he should have been the guy over Quinn. Well, you know, Quinn, you were struggling against Georgia. Why didn't Artch get to start easily? Anybody in the man in Klan could have popped up and said something.

You know in Texas fans there were a lot of them ready for Arch Manning and arch Manning's parents and Peyton and Eli, all the Mannings. They've done a ton of interviews, they're on red carpets all the time. They could have easily said he should have been the guy over Quinn. Well, you know, Quinn, you were struggling against Georgia. Why didn't Artch get to start easily? Anybody in the man in Klan could have popped up and said something.

Nothing.

Nothing.

They stayed out of it. They powered down and they let their kid figure it out. Hey, Dion Shadere's now twenty.

They stayed out of it. They powered down and they let their kid figure it out. Hey, Dion Shadere's now twenty.

Three years old.

Three years old.

I'm not telling a grown man what to do. But it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, Dion. If next time you were asked about he Hey man, I wish my son the best. I will be rooting for him hard. I'm a Cleveland Browns fan.

I'm not telling a grown man what to do. But it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, Dion. If next time you were asked about he Hey man, I wish my son the best. I will be rooting for him hard. I'm a Cleveland Browns fan.

Go Browns.

Go Browns.

On to the next question.

On to the next question.

Just stop.

Just stop.

All you're doing is hurting Shador And oh, by the way, do you remember Shadoor Sanders talked about this exact thing recently.

All you're doing is hurting Shador And oh, by the way, do you remember Shadoor Sanders talked about this exact thing recently.

Here's a video.

Here's a video.

Ninety nine percent of hatred is you know, tourist Pops and I'm just you know, I'm just his son. So it really just come from that. And I told him that, dude, just the older generation that do it to me rather than than younger people. Because when I was come in person, I don't there's no negativity I see, but it's all over online.

Ninety nine percent of hatred is you know, tourist Pops and I'm just you know, I'm just his son. So it really just come from that. And I told him that, dude, just the older generation that do it to me rather than than younger people. Because when I was come in person, I don't there's no negativity I see, but it's all over online.

You know. I got to kids, and we're trying this new thing.

You know. I got to kids, and we're trying this new thing.

This woman, No Robbins is a pretty smart lady with some really good insights, and her phrase is let them with your kids, Just let them. They're gonna have to figure it out on their own. And it's very difficult.

This woman, No Robbins is a pretty smart lady with some really good insights, and her phrase is let them with your kids, Just let them. They're gonna have to figure it out on their own. And it's very difficult.

You know.

You know.

I got to twelve or fourteen year old and I'm.

I got to twelve or fourteen year old and I'm.

Trying to get them to bed, like, hey, we got to set good habits and get to bed early and wake up and do this. And my wife said, hey, let them. They're gonna have to figure it out on their own. Hey stayed up till ten thirty. Not a great idea when you got, you know, a bunch of tests the next day and a lot of homework and I shouldn't be on my iPad. I should be doing this, and you gotta let them. I think Dion Sanders needs to just stand down and let shedure figure it out. It's gonna be difficult, but he's twenty three, he's out of the house. I know this is the first time in forever that you haven't coached him, right, I think believe it's he's been coaching him since, like youth leads and high school. He was a coordinator. Dion, you've got to stand back. I mean, this is a prime example of why prime is a problem. I'm wishing him luck, and you know who I'm also wishing luck to is Kevin Stefanski, who has a mighty big hill to climb this week. All right, coming up next year on the Herd. A former NBA star he did play for my knicks. Is he taking a shot at Cooper Flag? I couldn't tell based on the quote whether or not he's taking a shot.

Trying to get them to bed, like, hey, we got to set good habits and get to bed early and wake up and do this. And my wife said, hey, let them. They're gonna have to figure it out on their own. Hey stayed up till ten thirty. Not a great idea when you got, you know, a bunch of tests the next day and a lot of homework and I shouldn't be on my iPad. I should be doing this, and you gotta let them. I think Dion Sanders needs to just stand down and let shedure figure it out. It's gonna be difficult, but he's twenty three, he's out of the house. I know this is the first time in forever that you haven't coached him, right, I think believe it's he's been coaching him since, like youth leads and high school. He was a coordinator. Dion, you've got to stand back. I mean, this is a prime example of why prime is a problem. I'm wishing him luck, and you know who I'm also wishing luck to is Kevin Stefanski, who has a mighty big hill to climb this week. All right, coming up next year on the Herd. A former NBA star he did play for my knicks. Is he taking a shot at Cooper Flag? I couldn't tell based on the quote whether or not he's taking a shot.

I think it's a bit out of bounds.

I think it's a bit out of bounds.

But we'll talk about that next year on The Herd.

But we'll talk about that next year on The Herd.

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Obviously, SGA and the Thunder going to the finals against Haliburton and the Pacers, And we saw that over the weekend. Lebron did a podcast with Luka Doncic along with Steve Nash, and they were talking about Luca's style, and I said, why don't we do a list the top five players in the NBA without a ring, And here's what Lebron and Luca talked about that got me to that point.

Obviously, SGA and the Thunder going to the finals against Haliburton and the Pacers, And we saw that over the weekend. Lebron did a podcast with Luka Doncic along with Steve Nash, and they were talking about Luca's style, and I said, why don't we do a list the top five players in the NBA without a ring, And here's what Lebron and Luca talked about that got me to that point.

Here we go.

Here we go.

Obviously, we've seen throughout his career, like if there's plays and passes that certain guys that in the league history have ever been able to make. I mean, it's always his pace has always been his pace, and he's never ever been on the floor where he's allowed someone to dictate where they're gonna put him on the floor. It's always been the opposite you know, and for us, we all working off of that. We just got to stay ready.

Obviously, we've seen throughout his career, like if there's plays and passes that certain guys that in the league history have ever been able to make. I mean, it's always his pace has always been his pace, and he's never ever been on the floor where he's allowed someone to dictate where they're gonna put him on the floor. It's always been the opposite you know, and for us, we all working off of that. We just got to stay ready.

You know what this is leading up to, right people.

You know what this is leading up to, right people.

I'm a Luca guy, and this is not just Johnny lately, this is not since he got to the Lakers.

I'm a Luca guy, and this is not just Johnny lately, this is not since he got to the Lakers.

But I'm a huge Luca fan.

But I'm a huge Luca fan.

So I thought i'd rank going from five to one the five best players in the NBA without a ring. Now, this caused some drama in the morning meeting, and I out of the corner of my eye, I can see Rick Buker just like, oh my gosh.

So I thought i'd rank going from five to one the five best players in the NBA without a ring. Now, this caused some drama in the morning meeting, and I out of the corner of my eye, I can see Rick Buker just like, oh my gosh.

So let's start with number five, fifth best player.

So let's start with number five, fifth best player.

Right now in the NBA without a ring, and that's got to be my guy, Jalen Brunson. He is a phenomenal talent. He is emerges from the best point guards in the league. He's a you know, sub six' three point, guard which some people think you can't win. With And brunson only does his deliver. Buckets, now why they didn't get by The. PACERS i don't think it's fully On. Brunson obviously his defense was not up to. Stuff but the fifth spot came down to me For brunson Or, haliburton And i'm, SORRY i Think brunson slightly better Than.

Right now in the NBA without a ring, and that's got to be my guy, Jalen Brunson. He is a phenomenal talent. He is emerges from the best point guards in the league. He's a you know, sub six' three point, guard which some people think you can't win. With And brunson only does his deliver. Buckets, now why they didn't get by The. PACERS i don't think it's fully On. Brunson obviously his defense was not up to. Stuff but the fifth spot came down to me For brunson Or, haliburton And i'm, SORRY i Think brunson slightly better Than.

Haliburton SO i.

Haliburton SO i.

Go brunson at number, five the fourth best player in THE nba without a.

Go brunson at number, five the fourth best player in THE nba without a.

Ring here we go a little bit of a. Curveball Jimmy. Butler, now somebody tried to tell me in the morning.

Ring here we go a little bit of a. Curveball Jimmy. Butler, now somebody tried to tell me in the morning.

Meeting oh my, God jay macke it's so much better Than Jimmy, butler AND i almost like vomited in my. Mouth come, on, Guy Jimmy butler as an alpha led The Miami heat to the championship. Twice, okay that's a.

Meeting oh my, God jay macke it's so much better Than Jimmy, butler AND i almost like vomited in my. Mouth come, on, Guy Jimmy butler as an alpha led The Miami heat to the championship. Twice, okay that's a.

Superstar.

Superstar.

NOW i know he's getting up there an agent and he's not what he was three years, ago but he is still a phenomenal.

NOW i know he's getting up there an agent and he's not what he was three years, ago but he is still a phenomenal.

TALENT i love The Jimmy butler. Story back to my radio. Days Like Jimmy.

TALENT i love The Jimmy butler. Story back to my radio. Days Like Jimmy.

Butler coming out of like living on he was, CouchSurfing, okay had to like fax in his resume to get into college At. Marquette like this guy was interrupt spot and he has just become a star in THE.

Butler coming out of like living on he was, CouchSurfing, okay had to like fax in his resume to get into college At. Marquette like this guy was interrupt spot and he has just become a star in THE.

NBA i love everything About Jimmy.

NBA i love everything About Jimmy.

BUTLER i don't know they'll get a, title BUT i have his fourth best player in the league without a.

BUTLER i don't know they'll get a, title BUT i have his fourth best player in the league without a.

Ring number. Three let's go to THE, Mvp Shay, Gilgess.

Ring number. Three let's go to THE, Mvp Shay, Gilgess.

ALEXANDER i have a Feeling rick's gonna have him at. ONE i THINK sga is a really good.

ALEXANDER i have a Feeling rick's gonna have him at. ONE i THINK sga is a really good.

Player obviously great.

Player obviously great.

Season he's on a really good.

Season he's on a really good.

TEAM sga does everything.

TEAM sga does everything.

Well i'm not gonna say he's a jack of all, trades master of, none because he's the master of the mid range right. Now he just gets buckets at the mid. Range probably gonna get his title this, year right favorite of the, fifth biggest favorite in like the last fifty years or. WHATEVER sga third best player in the league without a. Ring number Two Anthony. Edwards, YES i Believe Anthony edwards is better Than Shake Gilges. Alexander, sorry he's, younger he's got a better offensive.

Well i'm not gonna say he's a jack of all, trades master of, none because he's the master of the mid range right. Now he just gets buckets at the mid. Range probably gonna get his title this, year right favorite of the, fifth biggest favorite in like the last fifty years or. WHATEVER sga third best player in the league without a. Ring number Two Anthony. Edwards, YES i Believe Anthony edwards is better Than Shake Gilges. Alexander, sorry he's, younger he's got a better offensive.

Bag he's led the league in threes this.

Bag he's led the league in threes this.

Season he just doesn't.

Season he just doesn't.

Have as good of a team As, okay, SEE i Think Anthony edwards is. Phenomenal all this future faith of The league, stuff it's, legit. Guys he's that good now Is he a little goofy off the court and sometimes not locked in and he loves a good ig battye who does? It but Once Anthony edwards grows up just a little, bit alex stop. Laughing once he grows up just a, Bit Anthony edwards is gonna be the top player in THE. Nba now for the number one player in THE nba without a.

Have as good of a team As, okay, SEE i Think Anthony edwards is. Phenomenal all this future faith of The league, stuff it's, legit. Guys he's that good now Is he a little goofy off the court and sometimes not locked in and he loves a good ig battye who does? It but Once Anthony edwards grows up just a little, bit alex stop. Laughing once he grows up just a, Bit Anthony edwards is gonna be the top player in THE. Nba now for the number one player in THE nba without a.

Ring it's got to Be. Luca who's better Than?

Ring it's got to Be. Luca who's better Than?

LUCA i have him right there in The yoki Which giannis, last and my thing THAT.

LUCA i have him right there in The yoki Which giannis, last and my thing THAT.

I cup back to all the.

I cup back to all the.

Time luca makes everyone around him.

Time luca makes everyone around him.

Better he did it In.

Better he did it In.

Dallas they got to the finals last year because he made everyone around it.

Dallas they got to the finals last year because he made everyone around it.

Better That dallas team based on a great.

Better That dallas team based on a great.

Team look at them this.

Team look at them this.

Year what would they do this?

Year what would they do this?

Year?

Year?

NOW i Know kyrie GOT, herd but they had A d and largely the same guys That luca had that he put on his back and got to the. Finals for, Me luca donc is the best player in THE nba without a ring and without further. Ado let's welcome In Rick, Bucker Fox SPORTS nba. Analysts, NOW i have great vision AND i could See rick pacing turning, around throwing.

NOW i Know kyrie GOT, herd but they had A d and largely the same guys That luca had that he put on his back and got to the. Finals for, Me luca donc is the best player in THE nba without a ring and without further. Ado let's welcome In Rick, Bucker Fox SPORTS nba. Analysts, NOW i have great vision AND i could See rick pacing turning, around throwing.

His hands in the Other oh my, gosh J, mak you're.

His hands in the Other oh my, gosh J, mak you're.

Crazy so much. Work i've been much, work so little. Time we made that contact a couple of.

Crazy so much. Work i've been much, work so little. Time we made that contact a couple of.

Times oh rattling, On, oh.

Times oh rattling, On, oh.

Chills over There.

Chills over There.

Ring Now, ring you're doing your list as, well.

Ring Now, ring you're doing your list as, well.

Right, yes and don't pretend like you didn't see my. LIPS i haven't seen.

Right, yes and don't pretend like you didn't see my. LIPS i haven't seen.

It they did tell, me and he could he could be telling the.

It they did tell, me and he could he could be telling the.

Truth it's the Same.

Truth it's the Same.

Lee we're gonna start sending out a bulgasy list to the producer early so you don't different.

Lee we're gonna start sending out a bulgasy list to the producer early so you don't different.

Critic i'll guess your guy number one IS sga, right?

Critic i'll guess your guy number one IS sga, right?

Yes and by and how do you possibly Put Anthony edwards ahead Of Shake Gildes alexander after what we just?

Yes and by and how do you possibly Put Anthony edwards ahead Of Shake Gildes alexander after what we just?

Witnessed how is that? Possible, well it's.

Witnessed how is that? Possible, well it's.

Not like they were playing one on one.

Not like they were playing one on one.

Rick they were both the leaders of their respective teams and one guy got gentlemanly.

Rick they were both the leaders of their respective teams and one guy got gentlemanly.

Swept he was.

Swept he was.

M v Against Anthony.

M v Against Anthony.

Edwards they, Said Julius reyna take hold.

Edwards they, Said Julius reyna take hold.

Because you know, what because he has no mid range. Game if you Put Shake Gildes alexander, there the defense isn't able to do the same, thing so he can operate in more.

Because you know, what because he has no mid range. Game if you Put Shake Gildes alexander, there the defense isn't able to do the same, thing so he can operate in more.

Places you want to go ahead to, Head, yes mid range TO sga three point shooting To Anthony, edwards driving to the, Rim Anthony edwards dunk on anybody and DEFENSE i would go ant OVER sg and why didn't he.

Places you want to go ahead to, Head, yes mid range TO sga three point shooting To Anthony, edwards driving to the, Rim Anthony edwards dunk on anybody and DEFENSE i would go ant OVER sg and why didn't he.

In that because there was five guys in the.

In that because there was five guys in the.

Lady, Okay so if you don't have the mid, range then you don't get the dunk as often and he has to finish at the. Rim Look sga as far as an offensive. Bag it's not as dynamic As, ants but it is more. Complete without, QUESTION i can Say sga is a three level. Scorer aunt falling in love with the three has changed that. Dramatically half of his shots this year were from, three and yet he shot the same number as he did the previous. Season where did the shots come from his mid? Range he abandoned it and that cost him in the.

Lady, Okay so if you don't have the mid, range then you don't get the dunk as often and he has to finish at the. Rim Look sga as far as an offensive. Bag it's not as dynamic As, ants but it is more. Complete without, QUESTION i can Say sga is a three level. Scorer aunt falling in love with the three has changed that. Dramatically half of his shots this year were from, three and yet he shot the same number as he did the previous. Season where did the shots come from his mid? Range he abandoned it and that cost him in the.

PLAYOFFS i blame, analytics don't Blame.

PLAYOFFS i blame, analytics don't Blame.

Anthony so where do you Have luke on the?

Anthony so where do you Have luke on the?

List? Uh, LUCA i BELIEVE i had. Second he's up.

List? Uh, LUCA i BELIEVE i had. Second he's up.

There but you're mixing the bag BECAUSE i also HAD i Had aunt, fifth AND i Had Jimmy butler ahead.

There but you're mixing the bag BECAUSE i also HAD i Had aunt, fifth AND i Had Jimmy butler ahead.

Him now we're just talking about pure.

Him now we're just talking about pure.

TALENT i don't know that we can go, there But i'm looking at A Jimmy, butler to your, point who led teams to the finals. Twice like there's this this combination of guys who are just purely talented who don't have a, ring and guys who have demonstrated that they they're next in the, line or they deserve a ring because they've come so close and maybe they just didn't have the requisite team around.

TALENT i don't know that we can go, there But i'm looking at A Jimmy, butler to your, point who led teams to the finals. Twice like there's this this combination of guys who are just purely talented who don't have a, ring and guys who have demonstrated that they they're next in the, line or they deserve a ring because they've come so close and maybe they just didn't have the requisite team around.

Them But i'm not going to say that About.

Them But i'm not going to say that About.

ANT i DON'T i don't BELIEVE i this is this is my great issue is that when a player Like ant doesn't get to the finals or doesn't win a, ring we immediately, go, oh, well he doesn't have enough. Help we need to get more pieces around. Him It's Julius randall's. Fault it's it's It's Chris pinch's, fault It's Mike conley's.

ANT i DON'T i don't BELIEVE i this is this is my great issue is that when a player Like ant doesn't get to the finals or doesn't win a, ring we immediately, go, oh, well he doesn't have enough. Help we need to get more pieces around. Him It's Julius randall's. Fault it's it's It's Chris pinch's, fault It's Mike conley's.

Fault i'm, like, no if you're that.

Fault i'm, like, no if you're that.

Kind of, player And i'm looking at the holes In Anthony.

Kind of, player And i'm looking at the holes In Anthony.

Edwards game first and.

Edwards game first and.

FOREMOST i want him to fill those holes and Then i'll figure out the pieces THAT i need around.

FOREMOST i want him to fill those holes and Then i'll figure out the pieces THAT i need around.

Him because that's.

Him because that's.

This This Minnesota timberwolves team was more talented than a team that got gentlemanly.

This This Minnesota timberwolves team was more talented than a team that got gentlemanly.

Swept that's.

Swept that's.

FAIR i would push back and, Say aunt's twenty.

FAIR i would push back and, Say aunt's twenty.

Three AND i THINK sg keep saying.

Three AND i THINK sg keep saying.

That so three years, AGO sga was in the play in and, meanwhile aunt is taking his team.

That so three years, AGO sga was in the play in and, meanwhile aunt is taking his team.

To the conference.

To the conference.

Finals two years in a.

Finals two years in a.

Row his team has Gone his team has gone to the, final to the conference finals two years in a.

Row his team has Gone his team has gone to the, final to the conference finals two years in a.

Row admit That.

Row admit That.

JULIUS i could make a case That Julius randall had more to do with them getting there this year than Than.

JULIUS i could make a case That Julius randall had more to do with them getting there this year than Than.

Ante, Well julian was unbelievably good until he. Wasn't, yes.

Ante, Well julian was unbelievably good until he. Wasn't, yes.

Understood, yeah here's the other, part IS i keep First last year it was he's twenty. Two now it's he's twenty. Three and when asked like did this did this?

Understood, yeah here's the other, part IS i keep First last year it was he's twenty. Two now it's he's twenty. Three and when asked like did this did this?

Hurt did you? STRUGGLE i donna. Struggle i'm. Good i'm gonna work hard this, summer But i'm. Good like that you like? THAT i did not love?

Hurt did you? STRUGGLE i donna. Struggle i'm. Good i'm gonna work hard this, summer But i'm. Good like that you like? THAT i did not love?

That, okay some of the for me, either because you the clock is ticking like and if you look at guys Like tracy, McGrady Penny, hardaway there's any number of guys that were great early. On Penny hardaway went to the finals his second. Year he Was ALL Nba First team two years in a. Row tracy, McGrady same thing was like the third or fourth year was was Was ALL nba and getting SOME mvp, accolades BEFORE i take that.

That, okay some of the for me, either because you the clock is ticking like and if you look at guys Like tracy, McGrady Penny, hardaway there's any number of guys that were great early. On Penny hardaway went to the finals his second. Year he Was ALL Nba First team two years in a. Row tracy, McGrady same thing was like the third or fourth year was was Was ALL nba and getting SOME mvp, accolades BEFORE i take that.

Back that was With penny With shock Leaving.

Back that was With penny With shock Leaving.

Orlandia but those guys were like when we looked at them early in their first three four, years we're, like, oh these guys are playing for, championships, right these guys are going to be all time, greats and they hit their zenith in those first four or five. Years that's more the rule than the exception in terms of guys winning a. Ring, LIKE i think it's a foregone conclusion a lot of people's, minds that Including, ants That ant is going to WIN mvp at some point and he's going to win a ring at some point, Probably. Right The minnesota somber has had the most expensive roster in the league this, year, Right and if we look at some of the guards and some of the players early on that, won it's because they had guys on their team that were really good who were, Underpaid like The Minnesota timberwolves are not, there, Right so is it gonna happen in the next year or? Two, No, well then now we're getting to twenty, seven twenty eight and having to remake The timberwolves around. Him i'm JUST i think there's this foregone conclusion About aunt THAT i wouldn't necessarily buy.

Orlandia but those guys were like when we looked at them early in their first three four, years we're, like, oh these guys are playing for, championships, right these guys are going to be all time, greats and they hit their zenith in those first four or five. Years that's more the rule than the exception in terms of guys winning a. Ring, LIKE i think it's a foregone conclusion a lot of people's, minds that Including, ants That ant is going to WIN mvp at some point and he's going to win a ring at some point, Probably. Right The minnesota somber has had the most expensive roster in the league this, year, Right and if we look at some of the guards and some of the players early on that, won it's because they had guys on their team that were really good who were, Underpaid like The Minnesota timberwolves are not, there, Right so is it gonna happen in the next year or? Two, No, well then now we're getting to twenty, seven twenty eight and having to remake The timberwolves around. Him i'm JUST i think there's this foregone conclusion About aunt THAT i wouldn't necessarily buy.

Into AS i hear you explain, THAT i was just thinking to the Guy Lebron james in what year three year something With cleveland goes to the, finals can't get back? There says, Guys i'm Out derea and. O'keseep they get to the, finals young, GUYS i have to go someplace, off? Right so Is minnesota gonna do it In? Minnesota Anthony edward's gonna do it In? Minnesota probably.

Into AS i hear you explain, THAT i was just thinking to the Guy Lebron james in what year three year something With cleveland goes to the, finals can't get back? There says, Guys i'm Out derea and. O'keseep they get to the, finals young, GUYS i have to go someplace, off? Right so Is minnesota gonna do it In? Minnesota Anthony edward's gonna do it In? Minnesota probably.

Not and here's the flip side of.

Not and here's the flip side of.

That when you look at the guys that are there right, Now sga And Tyrese, haliburton what are they have in?

That when you look at the guys that are there right, Now sga And Tyrese, haliburton what are they have in?

Common this isn't their first, Team this isn't their first.

Common this isn't their first, Team this isn't their first.

Team and there were there were doubts about both of them at various, points like how good can they? Be can they be the leader of a championship. Team we haven't had anybody express that doubt About Aunt.

Team and there were there were doubts about both of them at various, points like how good can they? Be can they be the leader of a championship. Team we haven't had anybody express that doubt About Aunt.

Edwards AND i believe.

Edwards AND i believe.

That you're taking away the motivation of a, player the urgency of a player to, say you know, WHAT i want to prove you. Wrong nobody's Saying aunt has to prove them. Wrong everybody's still giving Him flowers in spite of the fact that if you look at the last Two Western conference, finals yes did they get. There, sure but he was outplayed by another, Star Luca dantis last year IN sga this, year and yet there still seems to be no urgency or a feeling.

That you're taking away the motivation of a, player the urgency of a player to, say you know, WHAT i want to prove you. Wrong nobody's Saying aunt has to prove them. Wrong everybody's still giving Him flowers in spite of the fact that if you look at the last Two Western conference, finals yes did they get. There, sure but he was outplayed by another, Star Luca dantis last year IN sga this, year and yet there still seems to be no urgency or a feeling.

Like, Hey, ann you're like you need to pick it. Up and if you're going to get.

Like, Hey, ann you're like you need to pick it. Up and if you're going to get.

THERE i don't know what more he could. Do but, anyways let's move on to The. KNICKS i just know the post mortem we Had Frank eye so.

THERE i don't know what more he could. Do but, anyways let's move on to The. KNICKS i just know the post mortem we Had Frank eye so.

Long i'm. Pledging, hey let's take a deep.

Long i'm. Pledging, hey let's take a deep.

Breath last year The pacers were swept by The Celtics conference. Finals they make zero changes to their top, eight and they're in THE Nba. FINALS i Know i've been, like, hey maybe we Dumped. THIBODEAU i know there's This gianni's. Chase i'm actually preaching some, Patients, rick AND i think The knicks can run it.

Breath last year The pacers were swept by The Celtics conference. Finals they make zero changes to their top, eight and they're in THE Nba. FINALS i Know i've been, like, hey maybe we Dumped. THIBODEAU i know there's This gianni's. Chase i'm actually preaching some, Patients, rick AND i think The knicks can run it.

Back are you?

Back are you?

OKAY i, know Irrational New yorker over?

OKAY i, know Irrational New yorker over?

Here, no you? Are you are being incredibly. Rational Oh i've Never i've never Heard wow be this.

Here, no you? Are you are being incredibly. Rational Oh i've Never i've never Heard wow be this.

Rational you're usually the we're gonna.

Rational you're usually the we're gonna.

The coach like always, right the blow it, up get rid of.

The coach like always, right the blow it, up get rid of.

THEM i had a boozy. Weekend it's of, basketball you, know like you get your mind.

THEM i had a boozy. Weekend it's of, basketball you, know like you get your mind.

CLEARED i came in this, MORNING i, said, guys we're gonna stand Pat, yeah AND i think they can get to THE Nba.

CLEARED i came in this, MORNING i, said, guys we're gonna stand Pat, yeah AND i think they can get to THE Nba.

Finals they weren't far off this, Year, no they.

Finals they weren't far off this, Year, no they.

Weren't the issue is, like, ideally if you're going to play for a, championship they need a true two way, big like right now they have Like Mitchell robinson's on the. Floor, defensively they're a different, team but now they're a different team offensively as. Well, Offensively kat gave you a. Lot let's not under sell what he did for the better part of the. Playoffs but if you're going to be built around a point, guard And i'd look at the two thousand and Four Detroit pistons winning a championship and the twenty twenty Two Golden State, warriors you have to have like the perfect pieces.

Weren't the issue is, like, ideally if you're going to play for a, championship they need a true two way, big like right now they have Like Mitchell robinson's on the. Floor, defensively they're a different, team but now they're a different team offensively as. Well, Offensively kat gave you a. Lot let's not under sell what he did for the better part of the. Playoffs but if you're going to be built around a point, guard And i'd look at the two thousand and Four Detroit pistons winning a championship and the twenty twenty Two Golden State, warriors you have to have like the perfect pieces.

And a lot of talent around that.

And a lot of talent around that.

Guard if you look at the numbers, alone What Jalen brunson did this year in the regular season and in the players playoffs mirrors What Steph curry did in twenty twenty, two both regular season and.

Guard if you look at the numbers, alone What Jalen brunson did this year in the regular season and in the players playoffs mirrors What Steph curry did in twenty twenty, two both regular season and.

Playoffs but What steph had was he Had.

Playoffs but What steph had was he Had.

Andrew whiggins playing, almost, yeah almost better Than Draymond green as a defensive player and a true was a two way impact. Player you Had Draymond green still playing, well you Had Klay thompson have his, moments you Had Jordan poole, like you had all the pieces that allowed to that covered the blemishes Of steph and allowed him to maximize what he.

Andrew whiggins playing, almost, yeah almost better Than Draymond green as a defensive player and a true was a two way impact. Player you Had Draymond green still playing, well you Had Klay thompson have his, moments you Had Jordan poole, like you had all the pieces that allowed to that covered the blemishes Of steph and allowed him to maximize what he.

Is that's what The knicks, need AND i don't know that they have it right.

Is that's what The knicks, need AND i don't know that they have it right.

Now but to your, point, like unless there was a clear CUT i can get this thing that makes a.

Now but to your, point, like unless there was a clear CUT i can get this thing that makes a.

Difference i'm standing packed.

Difference i'm standing packed.

Let, me can they Get? GIANNIS i don't. See it just doesn't seem feasible given the.

Let, me can they Get? GIANNIS i don't. See it just doesn't seem feasible given the.

Pick they don't have that.

Pick they don't have that.

Anything, Yeah i've Been i've been asking about that BECAUSE i mean the. Teams There's, Houston, yeah There's.

Anything, Yeah i've Been i've been asking about that BECAUSE i mean the. Teams There's, Houston, yeah There's.

Brooklyn give up a, lot but he's not going.

Brooklyn give up a, lot but he's not going.

There, Yeah toronto's going to make a run at, him BUT i DON'T i don't know that that's going to. Happen but those two teams in, particular have the assets That.

There, Yeah toronto's going to make a run at, him BUT i DON'T i don't know that that's going to. Happen but those two teams in, particular have the assets That.

Milwaukee would want.

Milwaukee would want.

ASSETS i would add The spurs in the equation to those three.

ASSETS i would add The spurs in the equation to those three.

Teams it's.

Teams it's.

Tough, Okay so let's downshift To Kevin.

Tough, Okay so let's downshift To Kevin.

Durant, yeah turn thirty seven In. September, Rick, Yeah i'm a HUGE kd. Fan but is he that much of an upgrade For? Kat and doesn't he shrink your window from like maybe the next three years to, like you better win this year Because kat's hurt all the.

Durant, yeah turn thirty seven In. September, Rick, Yeah i'm a HUGE kd. Fan but is he that much of an upgrade For? Kat and doesn't he shrink your window from like maybe the next three years to, like you better win this year Because kat's hurt all the.

Time, Yeah i'd say he's an.

Time, Yeah i'd say he's an.

UPGRADE i mean the tricky part is are you just getting him as a one year rental or is he going to sign an? Extension do you want to sign him to? Extension what does that extension look? Like there's a lot of tricky parts to. That to your, point because Of kd's age and where he is the one, year the one year deal for a team that's looking for cap.

UPGRADE i mean the tricky part is are you just getting him as a one year rental or is he going to sign an? Extension do you want to sign him to? Extension what does that extension look? Like there's a lot of tricky parts to. That to your, point because Of kd's age and where he is the one, year the one year deal for a team that's looking for cap.

Space that may be.

Space that may be.

STUCK i, mean that's Where minnesota is kind of. Attractive but the problem is that you'd have to give up multiple. Pieces it's Not Julius randall For Kevin, Durant Julius randall And jade, McDaniels Or Julius randall And Rob dillingham And Mike connelly when so that's where it becomes. Difficult it's IT'S i had somebody this morning Suggests atlanta as for.

STUCK i, mean that's Where minnesota is kind of. Attractive but the problem is that you'd have to give up multiple. Pieces it's Not Julius randall For Kevin, Durant Julius randall And jade, McDaniels Or Julius randall And Rob dillingham And Mike connelly when so that's where it becomes. Difficult it's IT'S i had somebody this morning Suggests atlanta as for.

Kat just because they have the, assets AND i was. Thinking my first reaction, was, Oh katie's kind of finished his career In.

Kat just because they have the, assets AND i was. Thinking my first reaction, was, Oh katie's kind of finished his career In.

Atlanta that's Like Patrick ewing wearing A sonics jersey.

Atlanta that's Like Patrick ewing wearing A sonics jersey.

Or, yeah it's as you want for The raptors or something. Silly you don't want to see.

Or, yeah it's as you want for The raptors or something. Silly you don't want to see.

That not very.

That not very.

Attractive but, No katie's going to be.

Attractive but, No katie's going to be.

Difficult all, right let's go to the Actually Eastern Conference finals. Voting did you have an issue with The siakam Five halliburton? Four AND i will just breaface. This the media votes on this, stuff yes, right, yes we know the. Media they do some dumb, things obviously ALL nba. Voting but, anyways did you have a major issue with?

Difficult all, right let's go to the Actually Eastern Conference finals. Voting did you have an issue with The siakam Five halliburton? Four AND i will just breaface. This the media votes on this, stuff yes, right, yes we know the. Media they do some dumb, things obviously ALL nba. Voting but, anyways did you have a major issue with?

IT i really. Don't first of, all it was five to. Four, yeah so it's like there's like.

IT i really. Don't first of, all it was five to. Four, yeah so it's like there's like.

One swing, vote, right AND i can make a case for either, guy, Yeh pascal if you look at the if you take in to account the defensive end of the, FLOOR i mean The knicks were Hunting Tyrese haliburton at, Times Pascal siakam winning his battle being the best big on the. Floor it was the difference. Maker and then when you look in terms of key, baskets he didn't. Have he didn't have the highlight moments That haliburton. Had but the WAY i described it Was Pascal siakam was the engine And.

One swing, vote, right AND i can make a case for either, guy, Yeh pascal if you look at the if you take in to account the defensive end of the, FLOOR i mean The knicks were Hunting Tyrese haliburton at, Times Pascal siakam winning his battle being the best big on the. Floor it was the difference. Maker and then when you look in terms of key, baskets he didn't. Have he didn't have the highlight moments That haliburton. Had but the WAY i described it Was Pascal siakam was the engine And.

Tyre's halliburton was the. Driver like he got everybody.

Tyre's halliburton was the. Driver like he got everybody.

Involved you, know he obviously assists were through the, roof But Pascal siakam was getting to the free throw.

Involved you, know he obviously assists were through the, roof But Pascal siakam was getting to the free throw.

Line he was getting The nixon foul.

Line he was getting The nixon foul.

Trouble and you, know in those situations where they absolutely needed a, bucket they could hand him the ball and he would go get.

Trouble and you, know in those situations where they absolutely needed a, bucket they could hand him the ball and he would go get.

It it's.

It it's.

Weird it felt Like Jalen brown Over Jason tatum last.

Weird it felt Like Jalen brown Over Jason tatum last.

Year, yeah not unlike.

Year, yeah not unlike.

THAT i was also, thinking like the kind of The Iguidala Steph CURRY Mvp FINALS mvp annoyed.

THAT i was also, thinking like the kind of The Iguidala Steph CURRY Mvp FINALS mvp annoyed.

Me such A curry. DEFENDER i would go online and battle these.

Me such A curry. DEFENDER i would go online and battle these.

More like you, said the media doesn't always get it, right BUT i don't think that they got it perversely.

More like you, said the media doesn't always get it, right BUT i don't think that they got it perversely.

Wrong this was it that.

Wrong this was it that.

Egregious now let me ask you about the. Finals i've been workshopping this. TAKE i was gonna save it from midweek when things are. SLOW i don't.

Egregious now let me ask you about the. Finals i've been workshopping this. TAKE i was gonna save it from midweek when things are. SLOW i don't.

Know rick.

Know rick.

His whole finals, battle, Right it's it's a good matchup of. TEAMS nba diehards will love, it casuals probably will. Not i'm of the belief That indiana is going to give them a much closer series than the experts. Think everybody's, Saying, oh There's, Okay so he's just a Juggernaut. Indy everything That okac does really, well so Does. Indiana they've got the, bench they play with pace and. Tempo halliburton led the league and assist turnover. RATIO i, mean at one point in the next, series he had like four turnovers in five.

His whole finals, battle, Right it's it's a good matchup of. TEAMS nba diehards will love, it casuals probably will. Not i'm of the belief That indiana is going to give them a much closer series than the experts. Think everybody's, Saying, oh There's, Okay so he's just a Juggernaut. Indy everything That okac does really, well so Does. Indiana they've got the, bench they play with pace and. Tempo halliburton led the league and assist turnover. RATIO i, mean at one point in the next, series he had like four turnovers in five.

Games, like it's one way that that's one way to look at.

Games, like it's one way that that's one way to look at.

IT a lot of people looking at all the things That indiana, Does, okay se does and they just do it, better right except for one. Thing And i'd say there's two factors Where i'm with. You i'm not going to say it's going to be a great. SERIES i think that The pacers have a chance to make it an interesting series in terms of pushing it to, six maybe even.

IT a lot of people looking at all the things That indiana, Does, okay se does and they just do it, better right except for one. Thing And i'd say there's two factors Where i'm with. You i'm not going to say it's going to be a great. SERIES i think that The pacers have a chance to make it an interesting series in terms of pushing it to, six maybe even.

Seven AND i love.

Seven AND i love.

THAT i don't see them winning, it BUT i see them making a.

THAT i don't see them winning, it BUT i see them making a.

Contest and for two.

Contest and for two.

Reasons number, one they have shot the ball from three point, range lights, out and they've done it.

Reasons number, one they have shot the ball from three point, range lights, out and they've done it.

Collectively LIKE i think.

Collectively LIKE i think.

LEST i, checked they were shooting like forty percent in the playoffs as a.

LEST i, checked they were shooting like forty percent in the playoffs as a.

Team that's, insane.

Team that's, insane.

That, is and that's that's much much better THAN okc. Does and as we, know the three point shot can have a huge influence on flipping The, cavs flipping the odds. Exactly the other part Is Rick carlisle And Pascal. SIAKO i have two guys who know what it takes to win a, championship who have been to the. Finals AND i look at THE i look at The, thunder and you have Of Alex. CARUSO i believe who won in the, bubble.

That, is and that's that's much much better THAN okc. Does and as we, know the three point shot can have a huge influence on flipping The, cavs flipping the odds. Exactly the other part Is Rick carlisle And Pascal. SIAKO i have two guys who know what it takes to win a, championship who have been to the. Finals AND i look at THE i look at The, thunder and you have Of Alex. CARUSO i believe who won in the, bubble.

Right.

Right.

Yeah and other than, that brand New Rick carlo has been to the finals six. Times he took A Dallas mavericks team that was probably as underrated and looked past in the finals versus The Miami, heat as This pacers team is against The Oklahoma City. Thunder SO i believe that The carlisle is gonna have a few things up his.

Yeah and other than, that brand New Rick carlo has been to the finals six. Times he took A Dallas mavericks team that was probably as underrated and looked past in the finals versus The Miami, heat as This pacers team is against The Oklahoma City. Thunder SO i believe that The carlisle is gonna have a few things up his.

SLEEVE i love.

SLEEVE i love.

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