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Thanks for listening to The Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sportsradio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. All right, here we go on a Monday back from VAK, ready to roll live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your Dave Jordan Schultz film in for Jmack this week. Great to have you a lot of NFL stuff. Drafts a couple of weeks away. I often tell my kids, and I've said this before, Now they don't listen to me. They used to kind of that the most important quality anybody can have in life is resilience, even for the greatest of all time, Michael Jordan. You saw the odyssey and the struggles of Michael Jordan. Can't get to the Celtics, can't get to the Pistons. Rory McElroy, a golf prodigy, finally wins Augusta in his seventeenth trip.

Seventeenth trip.

Seventeenth trip.

Resiliency is the key to success in life, because it's really hard, or everybody would be successful. And Rory McElroy has two great qualities that make him so magnetic on television, which is how most of us watched. Number One, he is a wizard. He can make shots nobody else can. It's a combination of Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Jack Nicholas. He is a wizard bending a ball around trees and laughing after hero shots can often look routine. And the second quality he has he can buckle under pressure, hit a wedge into a creek from one hundred and twenty five yards away. As I watched yesterday, this was not Rory against Justin Rose. It was not Rory against Bryson De'shambeau. It was Rory McElroy against Rory McElroy. And that has been the story of his career and why the crowd was chanting in Augusta for Rory, not Justin Rose. What player do you get hold a hole? Since twenty fourteen, if he won this tournament, remarkably, it would be his first major. And again, this is a kid that like Tiger Woods, who was on the Mike Douglas Show when he was three or four. Rory was on Ireland TV hitting a golf ball into his mom's washer when he was eight and nine years old. He's there, Tiger. He is a prodigy. But Tiger was so great. He was often robotic, never losing a lead on Sunday, in total command, in total control. And yet with Rory he shares so many of those traits, long off the tee, bending balls around trees. But there are times when he played conservative yesterday, not when he was in trouble. Oh he was great then, but when he was conservative, he got into trouble. We remember to the collapse at the US Open a year ago, which makes him more fascinating, more vulnerable. He's not reckless, he's not babbling demons. You just aren't quite sure what you get. Putt to putt, wedge to wedge and off the green despite all his talent. But when the green was in sight and I thought it was so really, this was so much. This was a perfect way for him to win Augusta. This was a perfect way. Four double bogies, most ever for a champion. That web shot into the creek of course Rory McElroy would have to go to a playoff hole. It symbolized yesterday and Saturday. At the very best of his game, he pulls away and then yet blows a four shot lead early yesterday. He starts a little shaky, then he's strong, back to shaky, then he then he's great and in the end the winning putt was an emotional waterfall, proving once again, even for the all time greats, it is about absolutely resilience overcoming. It was not Rory against Augusta. It was not Rory against Bryson or Justin Rose. It was Rory against Rory, and the prodigy delivered and gets the jacket. Now Augusta is the first major and this could be the Rory year, or maybe it won't be, and that would be fitting too. For the record, the British Open is in Northern Ireland, one hour from where he grew up. Here's Rory on Rory and Bryson on Rory.

Resiliency is the key to success in life, because it's really hard, or everybody would be successful. And Rory McElroy has two great qualities that make him so magnetic on television, which is how most of us watched. Number One, he is a wizard. He can make shots nobody else can. It's a combination of Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Jack Nicholas. He is a wizard bending a ball around trees and laughing after hero shots can often look routine. And the second quality he has he can buckle under pressure, hit a wedge into a creek from one hundred and twenty five yards away. As I watched yesterday, this was not Rory against Justin Rose. It was not Rory against Bryson De'shambeau. It was Rory McElroy against Rory McElroy. And that has been the story of his career and why the crowd was chanting in Augusta for Rory, not Justin Rose. What player do you get hold a hole? Since twenty fourteen, if he won this tournament, remarkably, it would be his first major. And again, this is a kid that like Tiger Woods, who was on the Mike Douglas Show when he was three or four. Rory was on Ireland TV hitting a golf ball into his mom's washer when he was eight and nine years old. He's there, Tiger. He is a prodigy. But Tiger was so great. He was often robotic, never losing a lead on Sunday, in total command, in total control. And yet with Rory he shares so many of those traits, long off the tee, bending balls around trees. But there are times when he played conservative yesterday, not when he was in trouble. Oh he was great then, but when he was conservative, he got into trouble. We remember to the collapse at the US Open a year ago, which makes him more fascinating, more vulnerable. He's not reckless, he's not babbling demons. You just aren't quite sure what you get. Putt to putt, wedge to wedge and off the green despite all his talent. But when the green was in sight and I thought it was so really, this was so much. This was a perfect way for him to win Augusta. This was a perfect way. Four double bogies, most ever for a champion. That web shot into the creek of course Rory McElroy would have to go to a playoff hole. It symbolized yesterday and Saturday. At the very best of his game, he pulls away and then yet blows a four shot lead early yesterday. He starts a little shaky, then he's strong, back to shaky, then he then he's great and in the end the winning putt was an emotional waterfall, proving once again, even for the all time greats, it is about absolutely resilience overcoming. It was not Rory against Augusta. It was not Rory against Bryson or Justin Rose. It was Rory against Rory, and the prodigy delivered and gets the jacket. Now Augusta is the first major and this could be the Rory year, or maybe it won't be, and that would be fitting too. For the record, the British Open is in Northern Ireland, one hour from where he grew up. Here's Rory on Rory and Bryson on Rory.

After this is my seventheenth time here and I started to wonder if it would ever be my time, And I think, you know, the last ten years, coming here with the burden the Grand Slam on my shoulders and trying to achieve that. There was a lot of pens up of motion that just came out on that eighteenth green. But you know, I said, you know, a moment like that mix all the years and all the all the close calls worth it.

After this is my seventheenth time here and I started to wonder if it would ever be my time, And I think, you know, the last ten years, coming here with the burden the Grand Slam on my shoulders and trying to achieve that. There was a lot of pens up of motion that just came out on that eighteenth green. But you know, I said, you know, a moment like that mix all the years and all the all the close calls worth it.

I wanted to cry for him. I mean, as a professional, you just noted in the middle of the green and I can't believe he went for it or it must have just flirted it. But I've hit bat shots in my career too, so it happens. And when you're trying to win a major championship, especially out here Sunday Augusta, the Masters, you have to you have to just do it and get the job done and do it right. There were times where it looked like he had full control and times I was like, well, what's going on?

I wanted to cry for him. I mean, as a professional, you just noted in the middle of the green and I can't believe he went for it or it must have just flirted it. But I've hit bat shots in my career too, so it happens. And when you're trying to win a major championship, especially out here Sunday Augusta, the Masters, you have to you have to just do it and get the job done and do it right. There were times where it looked like he had full control and times I was like, well, what's going on?

And that is what makes Rory McElroy as fascinating as anybody in golf. I've always said this about Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was the best looking. He'd be easy not to like. He was the coolest, the style, the earring, the smile, handsome, great, be easy not to like. But you watched him struggle, so you were invested in the journey with Michael. He wasn't the chosen one at sixteen, he was cut by his high school coach. Lebron's less likable Jordan's incredibly likable Tiger at times was robotic, great early, dominating for a decade and chasing somebody like Lebron that we loved Jack Nicholas. But Rory is different. There's a little MJ there. We have watched the struggle. I'm hoping Augusta is the first of many, but that ten year gap so symbolizes what makes him so incredibly embraceable. Way to go, Rory. All right, so yesterday NBA plans are going to be interesting. East is set, Calves, Celtics are great. West is all logjammed. So yesterday the Warriors need to win biggest game of the year. They don't, and now they're forced tomorrow to play a playing game.

And that is what makes Rory McElroy as fascinating as anybody in golf. I've always said this about Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was the best looking. He'd be easy not to like. He was the coolest, the style, the earring, the smile, handsome, great, be easy not to like. But you watched him struggle, so you were invested in the journey with Michael. He wasn't the chosen one at sixteen, he was cut by his high school coach. Lebron's less likable Jordan's incredibly likable Tiger at times was robotic, great early, dominating for a decade and chasing somebody like Lebron that we loved Jack Nicholas. But Rory is different. There's a little MJ there. We have watched the struggle. I'm hoping Augusta is the first of many, but that ten year gap so symbolizes what makes him so incredibly embraceable. Way to go, Rory. All right, so yesterday NBA plans are going to be interesting. East is set, Calves, Celtics are great. West is all logjammed. So yesterday the Warriors need to win biggest game of the year. They don't, and now they're forced tomorrow to play a playing game.

So listen.

So listen.

I think Jim Butler's a playmaker. He's tough, he gets to the free throw line. He's good for Steph Curry. But the honeymoon is over. He made more free throws in Golden Satan Field goals since he's arrived. Okay, so let's be realistic about it. Pat Riley does not move off many players. Pat Riley's as good a personal guy as the league has had in my life outside of maybe Red Arbach, and they moved off him, and he's got a shorter contract that it's not as punitive, not as prohibitive as he wanted in Miami. But the reality is, despite the fact that Jimmy Butler's made him relevant and he's good for Steph, they've got a bigger problem once again. A young warrior, Jonathan Kaminga did not play coaches decision, James Wiseman, Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kaminga, an immature D'Angelo Russell. Young guys, squarely guys or immature guys don't fit here. If Kaminga gave you a twenty one a night and could play at the same time as Steph Draymond Butler, he'd be on the floor. But it tells you what Kerr thinks of Kaminga and what he thought of Wiseman and Jordan Poole and D'Angelo Russell was in and out of town quickly. If you look at the history of the dynasty, it's very much like the Patriots, Brady and staph One overwhelming transcendent superstar to superstar who mostly plays very very well with older players, Andrew Bogan, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Durant.

I think Jim Butler's a playmaker. He's tough, he gets to the free throw line. He's good for Steph Curry. But the honeymoon is over. He made more free throws in Golden Satan Field goals since he's arrived. Okay, so let's be realistic about it. Pat Riley does not move off many players. Pat Riley's as good a personal guy as the league has had in my life outside of maybe Red Arbach, and they moved off him, and he's got a shorter contract that it's not as punitive, not as prohibitive as he wanted in Miami. But the reality is, despite the fact that Jimmy Butler's made him relevant and he's good for Steph, they've got a bigger problem once again. A young warrior, Jonathan Kaminga did not play coaches decision, James Wiseman, Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kaminga, an immature D'Angelo Russell. Young guys, squarely guys or immature guys don't fit here. If Kaminga gave you a twenty one a night and could play at the same time as Steph Draymond Butler, he'd be on the floor. But it tells you what Kerr thinks of Kaminga and what he thought of Wiseman and Jordan Poole and D'Angelo Russell was in and out of town quickly. If you look at the history of the dynasty, it's very much like the Patriots, Brady and staph One overwhelming transcendent superstar to superstar who mostly plays very very well with older players, Andrew Bogan, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Durant.

You can bring the old guys in here and it works.

You can bring the old guys in here and it works.

Now.

Now.

Jimmy Butler is an additive, there's no question. But because cominga doesn't work when Draymond, Steph and Butler are all on the floor, the question is what do we get from Jimmy Butler. He's shooting about twenty eight percent from three point territory and it looks like and the kaminga thing. We were all kind of waiting off the injury to see how it would work, and Steve Kerr made a decision yesterday, I'm not even gonna play him. So it looks like the ceiling is very apparent for the Warriors. Yes, Jimmy Butler absolutely saved the regular season. He's relevant, a playmaker, gets to the free throw line, tough, and help Steph. Those are all boxes that are checked for Jimmy Butler. But again, in this dynasty, like Brady just did not work with young receivers.

Jimmy Butler is an additive, there's no question. But because cominga doesn't work when Draymond, Steph and Butler are all on the floor, the question is what do we get from Jimmy Butler. He's shooting about twenty eight percent from three point territory and it looks like and the kaminga thing. We were all kind of waiting off the injury to see how it would work, and Steve Kerr made a decision yesterday, I'm not even gonna play him. So it looks like the ceiling is very apparent for the Warriors. Yes, Jimmy Butler absolutely saved the regular season. He's relevant, a playmaker, gets to the free throw line, tough, and help Steph. Those are all boxes that are checked for Jimmy Butler. But again, in this dynasty, like Brady just did not work with young receivers.

Bring in Randy Moss its magic.

Bring in Randy Moss its magic.

Bringing a Don Branch again, it works, but you draft the kid in the first round, Nikhil Harry, Chad Jackson. It doesn't work by Brady wants to win now. He's not gonna be your babysitter. He's not gonna teach you how to run routes. And with the Warriors offense, young guys can struggle to find their footing and it looks like Kaminga will not be part of the future, although it seems like the only way they could win a series a seven gamer against the Houston against the Lakers would be a okay, see Houston if Kaminga played, but yesterday not playing him, coach's decision tells you, now it's not gonna work. Butler, Steven Draymond pods They're gonna have a ceiling. Here was Jimmy on the playing game.

Bringing a Don Branch again, it works, but you draft the kid in the first round, Nikhil Harry, Chad Jackson. It doesn't work by Brady wants to win now. He's not gonna be your babysitter. He's not gonna teach you how to run routes. And with the Warriors offense, young guys can struggle to find their footing and it looks like Kaminga will not be part of the future, although it seems like the only way they could win a series a seven gamer against the Houston against the Lakers would be a okay, see Houston if Kaminga played, but yesterday not playing him, coach's decision tells you, now it's not gonna work. Butler, Steven Draymond pods They're gonna have a ceiling. Here was Jimmy on the playing game.

We got a lot of really good basketball players. Run this open room key and what we're trying to do. I like the confidence that he has in myself. I also have the same amount of confidence. So I know that I and we have a job to do, and I know they were capable of doing it.

We got a lot of really good basketball players. Run this open room key and what we're trying to do. I like the confidence that he has in myself. I also have the same amount of confidence. So I know that I and we have a job to do, and I know they were capable of doing it.

So playing here we come. Well.

So playing here we come. Well.

Playing game is tomorrow against the Wizards again the Western Conference, Oklahoma City pulled away Houston's a little bit ahead of the group, but then it's Lakers. For the next four or five teams were all very close playing game. I'll take the Warriors over Memphis. I just don't trust the Grizzlies in big spots. But quite a day yesterday watching golf, I was thinking about this. There's been a handful of moments in my life i've overwhelmingly and this is why I supported the live tour.

Playing game is tomorrow against the Wizards again the Western Conference, Oklahoma City pulled away Houston's a little bit ahead of the group, but then it's Lakers. For the next four or five teams were all very close playing game. I'll take the Warriors over Memphis. I just don't trust the Grizzlies in big spots. But quite a day yesterday watching golf, I was thinking about this. There's been a handful of moments in my life i've overwhelmingly and this is why I supported the live tour.

I watched for golfers.

I watched for golfers.

I don't watch for courses, but there is something magical about a US Open at Pebble Beach. There is something magical about Augusta and the undulating course and the challenges, and we got all of it yesterday. I was talking to Ryan on the staff this morning. I watched every stroke like most of you did yesterday. I cannot remember being on pins and needles for four hours. And that was Rory right like when he pulled away early, there was no tension, no tension, and then he quickly lost that lead. Of course he did, because that's what makes him such a wildly entertaining spectacle.

I don't watch for courses, but there is something magical about a US Open at Pebble Beach. There is something magical about Augusta and the undulating course and the challenges, and we got all of it yesterday. I was talking to Ryan on the staff this morning. I watched every stroke like most of you did yesterday. I cannot remember being on pins and needles for four hours. And that was Rory right like when he pulled away early, there was no tension, no tension, and then he quickly lost that lead. Of course he did, because that's what makes him such a wildly entertaining spectacle.

Paul, what's so cool about Rory? You mentioned the resilience.

Paul, what's so cool about Rory? You mentioned the resilience.

How about what he said to his daughter in front of everyone else. I know we'll probably get to it in more detail later, but never give up on your dreams.

How about what he said to his daughter in front of everyone else. I know we'll probably get to it in more detail later, but never give up on your dreams.

Now.

Now.

That was him in many ways talking to himself.

That was him in many ways talking to himself.

He mentioned the decade long odyssey of trying to win another major. For him to do it, and to complete it in the manner in which he did, I personally felt guilty to he choked, it's over when he went to the playoff, especially Justin Rose having already lost one.

He mentioned the decade long odyssey of trying to win another major. For him to do it, and to complete it in the manner in which he did, I personally felt guilty to he choked, it's over when he went to the playoff, especially Justin Rose having already lost one.

I figured, that's it, this is Justin Rose.

I figured, that's it, this is Justin Rose.

I felt the same way I felt. They go to the narrowest, the narrowest gree fairway, and I thought, oh boy, all right. But yet yesterday, if you watched Rory in Saturday too, in some of those moments when you had doubt he delivered, it was when he got conservative that he at times buckled by the way this just came down. Mike Budenholzer fired Phoenix Sun's head coach. We didn't love the fit to start with, so he's on his way out. There's a total rebuild there, personnel, roster coaching. Phoenix just fired their head coach. Playoffs begin in earnest yes tomorrow, Memphis and Golden State.

I felt the same way I felt. They go to the narrowest, the narrowest gree fairway, and I thought, oh boy, all right. But yet yesterday, if you watched Rory in Saturday too, in some of those moments when you had doubt he delivered, it was when he got conservative that he at times buckled by the way this just came down. Mike Budenholzer fired Phoenix Sun's head coach. We didn't love the fit to start with, so he's on his way out. There's a total rebuild there, personnel, roster coaching. Phoenix just fired their head coach. Playoffs begin in earnest yes tomorrow, Memphis and Golden State.

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Dodgers can't hit. I go on vacation for ten days. Dodgers can't hit. Don't know what it is. Albert Breer top of Next Hour, Colin Wright, Colin wrong in a Monday, So Draft week is next week. We talked a lot about Rory McElroy and that led our show today and probably let every sport show in the country just a remarkable I was sitting there on Saturday morning. I went out golfing because whenever golf is one of those sports like I can watch basketball and not want to go out and play basketball. I can watch football and not want to go out and play football. But there is something about golf is when I'm watching a great tournament, I want to go to the practice ranger, I want to go play with buddies. And I went out and played and it was just you know, it's just a topic of conversation how remarkable Rory is. And I think it really does matter is that, like you know, Lebron James will never be as popular as Michael Jordan, and there's a lot of reasons for that, and that's not necessarily a shot at him, but he was the chosen one. And you know, there's so much Lebron. There's very few secrets with Michael Jordan. He was sort of for the most popular sports figure in America. He was kind of private in his personal life. He didn't have Instagram, it wasn't TikTok, it wasn't that generation. There was no googling YouTube. And Michael Jordan again, people forget this that he won as a freshman at North Carolina. He stayed at Carolina for two years and one year couldn't even beat in state rival n Z State, right, and then we saw the Pistons and the Celtics tackle him. So you shared in the pain and the journey and Michael crying when he finally won his title. And that's what's great about Rory. You know, there's a movie Goodwill Hunting, which almost all of you have seen, and people come out to Hollywood and they just forget how hard it is. It could be David Letterman's story, it could be Michael Keaton's story. It's affleck and dam and it took him over a decade to sell that script and get that movie made. And just watching at Augusta, the seventeenth trip for Europe's Tiger, Europe's golf Prodigy took seventeen trips, and it's just once again, it sort of is a reminder that success is really hard, even for the gifted. When you watch that ten part Michael Jordan documentary, remember watching that during COVID, Thank god for that or I don't know how we would have filled three hours. But I remember telling my kids he was the best looking player, he was the best player. He was in Chicago, a big city. The commissioner loved him, Nike loved him. Everything was there for Michael, but he was battling with a GM. The ownership was cheap. Rodman's going to Vegas for weekends and disappearing. He couldn't win with stan Olbrook or enough with Doug Collins. Then it's Phil Jackson who asked him to be more of a leader and trust teammates, so he did, and he finally won.

Dodgers can't hit. I go on vacation for ten days. Dodgers can't hit. Don't know what it is. Albert Breer top of Next Hour, Colin Wright, Colin wrong in a Monday, So Draft week is next week. We talked a lot about Rory McElroy and that led our show today and probably let every sport show in the country just a remarkable I was sitting there on Saturday morning. I went out golfing because whenever golf is one of those sports like I can watch basketball and not want to go out and play basketball. I can watch football and not want to go out and play football. But there is something about golf is when I'm watching a great tournament, I want to go to the practice ranger, I want to go play with buddies. And I went out and played and it was just you know, it's just a topic of conversation how remarkable Rory is. And I think it really does matter is that, like you know, Lebron James will never be as popular as Michael Jordan, and there's a lot of reasons for that, and that's not necessarily a shot at him, but he was the chosen one. And you know, there's so much Lebron. There's very few secrets with Michael Jordan. He was sort of for the most popular sports figure in America. He was kind of private in his personal life. He didn't have Instagram, it wasn't TikTok, it wasn't that generation. There was no googling YouTube. And Michael Jordan again, people forget this that he won as a freshman at North Carolina. He stayed at Carolina for two years and one year couldn't even beat in state rival n Z State, right, and then we saw the Pistons and the Celtics tackle him. So you shared in the pain and the journey and Michael crying when he finally won his title. And that's what's great about Rory. You know, there's a movie Goodwill Hunting, which almost all of you have seen, and people come out to Hollywood and they just forget how hard it is. It could be David Letterman's story, it could be Michael Keaton's story. It's affleck and dam and it took him over a decade to sell that script and get that movie made. And just watching at Augusta, the seventeenth trip for Europe's Tiger, Europe's golf Prodigy took seventeen trips, and it's just once again, it sort of is a reminder that success is really hard, even for the gifted. When you watch that ten part Michael Jordan documentary, remember watching that during COVID, Thank god for that or I don't know how we would have filled three hours. But I remember telling my kids he was the best looking player, he was the best player. He was in Chicago, a big city. The commissioner loved him, Nike loved him. Everything was there for Michael, but he was battling with a GM. The ownership was cheap. Rodman's going to Vegas for weekends and disappearing. He couldn't win with stan Olbrook or enough with Doug Collins. Then it's Phil Jackson who asked him to be more of a leader and trust teammates, so he did, and he finally won.

But we all shared in Michael's journey. He wasn't the chosen one.

But we all shared in Michael's journey. He wasn't the chosen one.

He wasn't a proud He was cut from high school basketball team, he was the number three pick. And so it just makes Michael more likable is that you saw him get tackled by the Pistons for years and he couldn't be those great Celtic teams. That's Rory. This kid has been like he has been. I mean, it's so funny. There's been so many because Tiger was so great that you know, we were all waiting for the next Tiger and it's like, guys, there's not going to be a next Tiger.

He wasn't a proud He was cut from high school basketball team, he was the number three pick. And so it just makes Michael more likable is that you saw him get tackled by the Pistons for years and he couldn't be those great Celtic teams. That's Rory. This kid has been like he has been. I mean, it's so funny. There's been so many because Tiger was so great that you know, we were all waiting for the next Tiger and it's like, guys, there's not going to be a next Tiger.

We were kind of lucky.

We were kind of lucky.

In basketball where Kobe had a lot of the elements and components of Michael cool, good looking, stylish. But with with Rory McElroy, I think we've found about as close to Tiger as you're going to get, which is an athlete tough. But the difference is Michael was almost robotic. He would never lose a lead. And that's why a lot of people preferred Michelson and his story because Michelson could be reckless and play himself out of a major. I never feel with Rory it's reckless. He's just got the kind of person and it's strange, but sometimes it feels like he loses confidence.

In basketball where Kobe had a lot of the elements and components of Michael cool, good looking, stylish. But with with Rory McElroy, I think we've found about as close to Tiger as you're going to get, which is an athlete tough. But the difference is Michael was almost robotic. He would never lose a lead. And that's why a lot of people preferred Michelson and his story because Michelson could be reckless and play himself out of a major. I never feel with Rory it's reckless. He's just got the kind of person and it's strange, but sometimes it feels like he loses confidence.

And so it was so fitting that he.

And so it was so fitting that he.

Had to go to a playoff hole and I didn't think he was gonna win. I thought, no, it's Justin Rose. You can tell it about when Justin was on the thirteenth or fourteenth all You're like, and I know you're all sitting there thinking, is Justin Rose, What a buzzkill?

Had to go to a playoff hole and I didn't think he was gonna win. I thought, no, it's Justin Rose. You can tell it about when Justin was on the thirteenth or fourteenth all You're like, and I know you're all sitting there thinking, is Justin Rose, What a buzzkill?

He's gonna win this thing.

He's gonna win this thing.

It's not gonna be de Shambeau, it's not gonna be a role I'm not I have to sit here for four hours and Justin Rose is gonna win it.

It's not gonna be de Shambeau, it's not gonna be a role I'm not I have to sit here for four hours and Justin Rose is gonna win it.

And that's nothing against Justin.

And that's nothing against Justin.

Rose, but I was like, give me a break, what a buzzkill, And so it was only fitting and so maybe just my pessimism, I thought, oh this, well.

Rose, but I was like, give me a break, what a buzzkill, And so it was only fitting and so maybe just my pessimism, I thought, oh this, well.

This is heartbreaking.

This is heartbreaking.

This is just heartbreaking, and then you know he hits that drive, then approach shot, nails the putt. Just a remarkable four hours of golf. I'm interested to see the TV ratings today. Nobody cares, but I would guess by the way the Master's app is fantastic.

This is just heartbreaking, and then you know he hits that drive, then approach shot, nails the putt. Just a remarkable four hours of golf. I'm interested to see the TV ratings today. Nobody cares, but I would guess by the way the Master's app is fantastic.

I would guess the ratings are through the roof.

I would guess the ratings are through the roof.

It was just just I couldn't take my eyes. You don't even have to be a golf fan. You don't have to be a golf fan. That was just my shoulders. I need a massage. My shoulders are tight. And it was so absolutely appropriate that it went to a playoff hole the quiet guy.

It was just just I couldn't take my eyes. You don't even have to be a golf fan. You don't have to be a golf fan. That was just my shoulders. I need a massage. My shoulders are tight. And it was so absolutely appropriate that it went to a playoff hole the quiet guy.

Justin Rose, and then here's Rory.

Justin Rose, and then here's Rory.

Had it lost it, had it tied it, playoff won it and you just see that waterfall of emotion come out. And I'll tell you just so emotional watching that. The Augusta patrons, they they won't let you call it a gallery if you're a broadcaster. And Jim Nansen, the CBS crew tip of the cap, I thought you did a remarkable job. Such great storyteller from your crew, you know fifty years ago, Jack Nicholas, a great way to romanticize it. Look at the tradition, but stay current. But the gallery always has a favorite and it was very easy early remember when it started out, and d Schambeau was given high five to the gallery. And he's more of a he's a slower player. And Rory likes. They're both power players. For Rory likes to get up and go and move and move, and d Chambeau has more pace, but they're both big, powerful guys. So there was a feeling like d Chambeau was going to like irritate uh Rory and take his time and go back and look at things and slow the pace. But d Chambeau, who by the way, was great until yesterday on the greens, but his game's a bit of a mess. It unraveled multiple times. He had distance issues the whole weekend. But he was so great on the greens until yesterday. He stayed around. Rory's game was much much better. He just had weird holes and weird shots. But early I thought the crowd was into d Chambeau. But about the third or fourth or fifth hole, they really pivoted to backing Rory, and I thought it was just great.

Had it lost it, had it tied it, playoff won it and you just see that waterfall of emotion come out. And I'll tell you just so emotional watching that. The Augusta patrons, they they won't let you call it a gallery if you're a broadcaster. And Jim Nansen, the CBS crew tip of the cap, I thought you did a remarkable job. Such great storyteller from your crew, you know fifty years ago, Jack Nicholas, a great way to romanticize it. Look at the tradition, but stay current. But the gallery always has a favorite and it was very easy early remember when it started out, and d Schambeau was given high five to the gallery. And he's more of a he's a slower player. And Rory likes. They're both power players. For Rory likes to get up and go and move and move, and d Chambeau has more pace, but they're both big, powerful guys. So there was a feeling like d Chambeau was going to like irritate uh Rory and take his time and go back and look at things and slow the pace. But d Chambeau, who by the way, was great until yesterday on the greens, but his game's a bit of a mess. It unraveled multiple times. He had distance issues the whole weekend. But he was so great on the greens until yesterday. He stayed around. Rory's game was much much better. He just had weird holes and weird shots. But early I thought the crowd was into d Chambeau. But about the third or fourth or fifth hole, they really pivoted to backing Rory, and I thought it was just great.

Great.

Great.

Always trust the Augusta crowd. They're giving you the vibe. They're they're telling you what the energy is. They did this, remember when Tiger won his last Masters or with Michelson.

Always trust the Augusta crowd. They're giving you the vibe. They're they're telling you what the energy is. They did this, remember when Tiger won his last Masters or with Michelson.

I always trust the patrons. They're telling you.

I always trust the patrons. They're telling you.

Just if you watch Augusta, they'll tell you the vibe of the tournament by who they're pulling for. It was deshambo Is. He came out. It's like a pro wrestler.

Just if you watch Augusta, they'll tell you the vibe of the tournament by who they're pulling for. It was deshambo Is. He came out. It's like a pro wrestler.

He's high five and he's leaning into it. About the third or fourth hole, everybody moved over to Rory and it was great. Okay, So I promised I was gonna do this.

He's high five and he's leaning into it. About the third or fourth hole, everybody moved over to Rory and it was great. Okay, So I promised I was gonna do this.

So it is not a great quarterback draft, but there's about five or six guys that I think are worth just addressing, and I'm just going to tell you lay it out here, Ryan says. He assures me we're taping this, it will be it's an archive, but I'm gonna give you my feeling on six quarterbacks that everybody's talking about in this draft. So the first guy's cam Ward, who I do think offensive coach, good old line, weak division. He's a playmaker, a super fluid athlete. He was a no star recruit, by the way. He went to a place called incarnate word, which sounds like a term of philosophy professor uses and you never know what it means. But it's a college no star recruit. I think in that division, with that staff and that offensive line, he's a playmaker.

So it is not a great quarterback draft, but there's about five or six guys that I think are worth just addressing, and I'm just going to tell you lay it out here, Ryan says. He assures me we're taping this, it will be it's an archive, but I'm gonna give you my feeling on six quarterbacks that everybody's talking about in this draft. So the first guy's cam Ward, who I do think offensive coach, good old line, weak division. He's a playmaker, a super fluid athlete. He was a no star recruit, by the way. He went to a place called incarnate word, which sounds like a term of philosophy professor uses and you never know what it means. But it's a college no star recruit. I think in that division, with that staff and that offensive line, he's a playmaker.

He'll win games. Is he transformational?

He'll win games. Is he transformational?

I don't know, plays a lot of hero ball, but there's something there and he should be your number one quarterback prospect. Shador Sanders. I like him more than NFL general managers. He's a very smart decision maker and super composed and accurate. But he's not He doesn't have a huge arm, he doesn't have a lot of physical traits that are impressive, and he gets sacked a lot in college. Some of that's old line, some of it he holds it too long. My take is he will be as good as the coaching staff and his protection. So if he gets the staff the offensive coach, it'll be fine. If not, it won't be much to write home about. Number three is Jackson dart Folks. I see Zach Wilson with the Jets. His best games were against Duke Georgia, Southern and Furman. At Zack Wilson, he's impressive, good looking kid, confident under Lane Kiffin's system, but in big games, wasn't consistently accurate, wasn't great with pressure. Also, Ole Miss has big time talent. So this fields like Zach Wilson, where he's gonna blow you away with his confidence. He's got a little bit of an arm, but he was inaccurate in big games. I don't think he sees the field particularly well. I don't think he's an anticipation thrower where I think Shador Sanders is. So I don't see it, but he'll get drafted in the first round enough GMS like it. Jalen Milroll, Alabama, great kid, physical specimen. He is too mechanical to ever be a professional quarterback. But I do think he's a much better version of Anthony Richardson. Again, he's inconsistent. You know you're getting in the fifty percent completion percentage on third and fourth down in the NFL. If you're not good in the two minute drill or on third down when everybody knows you're throwing, you're not a franchise quarterback for very long. But I do think because he's such a good kid, he's such a hard worker, and he throws, he's got some unbelievable traits. Somebody's gonna give him a chance to start in this league. But again, he's really mechanical. He's not terribly fluid, and I think there's limitation Tyler shuck out a Louisville don't get it. Too many injuries in college, big kid who can throw it. Looks the part. But remember he's older than Trevor Lawrence right now. So the college kids that stay in college forever.

I don't know, plays a lot of hero ball, but there's something there and he should be your number one quarterback prospect. Shador Sanders. I like him more than NFL general managers. He's a very smart decision maker and super composed and accurate. But he's not He doesn't have a huge arm, he doesn't have a lot of physical traits that are impressive, and he gets sacked a lot in college. Some of that's old line, some of it he holds it too long. My take is he will be as good as the coaching staff and his protection. So if he gets the staff the offensive coach, it'll be fine. If not, it won't be much to write home about. Number three is Jackson dart Folks. I see Zach Wilson with the Jets. His best games were against Duke Georgia, Southern and Furman. At Zack Wilson, he's impressive, good looking kid, confident under Lane Kiffin's system, but in big games, wasn't consistently accurate, wasn't great with pressure. Also, Ole Miss has big time talent. So this fields like Zach Wilson, where he's gonna blow you away with his confidence. He's got a little bit of an arm, but he was inaccurate in big games. I don't think he sees the field particularly well. I don't think he's an anticipation thrower where I think Shador Sanders is. So I don't see it, but he'll get drafted in the first round enough GMS like it. Jalen Milroll, Alabama, great kid, physical specimen. He is too mechanical to ever be a professional quarterback. But I do think he's a much better version of Anthony Richardson. Again, he's inconsistent. You know you're getting in the fifty percent completion percentage on third and fourth down in the NFL. If you're not good in the two minute drill or on third down when everybody knows you're throwing, you're not a franchise quarterback for very long. But I do think because he's such a good kid, he's such a hard worker, and he throws, he's got some unbelievable traits. Somebody's gonna give him a chance to start in this league. But again, he's really mechanical. He's not terribly fluid, and I think there's limitation Tyler shuck out a Louisville don't get it. Too many injuries in college, big kid who can throw it. Looks the part. But remember he's older than Trevor Lawrence right now. So the college kids that stay in college forever.

You know.

You know.

Again, he's going to be twenty seven here pretty quickly or playing against twenty year olds and twenty one year olds. So a little overvalued to me. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, who I've been saying now for three months.

Again, he's going to be twenty seven here pretty quickly or playing against twenty year olds and twenty one year olds. So a little overvalued to me. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, who I've been saying now for three months.

I think he's the sleeper.

I think he's the sleeper.

Good in big games, anticipation, thrower, moves well enough, accurate, highly productive at Ohio State, had that win against Notre Dame.

Good in big games, anticipation, thrower, moves well enough, accurate, highly productive at Ohio State, had that win against Notre Dame.

I like him.

I like him.

I think there's an argument he's the second best quarterback in this class. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, formerly of Ohio State. He's my sleeper. Cam's the best, and Shadeur will be as good as where he lands, all right. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong on a Monday. Good to be back live in Los Angeles.

I think there's an argument he's the second best quarterback in this class. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, formerly of Ohio State. He's my sleeper. Cam's the best, and Shadeur will be as good as where he lands, all right. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong on a Monday. Good to be back live in Los Angeles.

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I had.

I had.

I was in Chicago over the weekend. You know, they're all fired up about.

I was in Chicago over the weekend. You know, they're all fired up about.

The Bears, Jordan Schultz joining us up, and a lot of people are asking about Aaron Rodgers, who will be in our right and wrong? And I think Aaron is being very smart and calculated. He's going to wait for the draft and figure out where the domino's fall. He's not going to do a Kirk Cousins sign with a team and then the team drafts a quarterback. It's like, what's the point. So I think, I actually think Aaron Rodgers. And I told everybody said, my take is the Steelers is fool's gold. He knows that defensive culture. And so it's and here we are waiting for Aaron Rodgers, which again it's his last team, so I don't blame him. If it's your last job, your last contract, take your time, say no to a bunch of people. All right, we do it every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong? And here we go where Colin was right. The joker, Nikola Jokic after Kareem second best center. I've ever seen his numbers. This year, third player ever to average a triple double. Totally authentic. He didn't work the stats. He just had his best season ever thirty twelve and ten. He kept the franchise afloat. I don't know if they have another title. But the truth is because optics and artistic impression matters in the NBA, that he's not wildly popular because his game sometimes is a little clunky and awkward. But takeout Kareem that's the best center in league history where Colin was raw. I thought the Warriors would find themselves with the number two or number three seed, but Jimmy Butler just didn't provide enough offense and cominga doesn't work.

The Bears, Jordan Schultz joining us up, and a lot of people are asking about Aaron Rodgers, who will be in our right and wrong? And I think Aaron is being very smart and calculated. He's going to wait for the draft and figure out where the domino's fall. He's not going to do a Kirk Cousins sign with a team and then the team drafts a quarterback. It's like, what's the point. So I think, I actually think Aaron Rodgers. And I told everybody said, my take is the Steelers is fool's gold. He knows that defensive culture. And so it's and here we are waiting for Aaron Rodgers, which again it's his last team, so I don't blame him. If it's your last job, your last contract, take your time, say no to a bunch of people. All right, we do it every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong? And here we go where Colin was right. The joker, Nikola Jokic after Kareem second best center. I've ever seen his numbers. This year, third player ever to average a triple double. Totally authentic. He didn't work the stats. He just had his best season ever thirty twelve and ten. He kept the franchise afloat. I don't know if they have another title. But the truth is because optics and artistic impression matters in the NBA, that he's not wildly popular because his game sometimes is a little clunky and awkward. But takeout Kareem that's the best center in league history where Colin was raw. I thought the Warriors would find themselves with the number two or number three seed, but Jimmy Butler just didn't provide enough offense and cominga doesn't work.

They lost three of their last five.

They lost three of their last five.

They got eaten alive yesterday in overtime by James Harden and the Clippers, And I gotta say I was wrong on this. I thought they'd end up because of their experience, Butler getting the team to the free throw line, and they're added toughness, but in the end, they've got limitations, and they don't know what the hell to do with Kaminga because he doesn't play well with Draymond or Butler where they're on the floor.

They got eaten alive yesterday in overtime by James Harden and the Clippers, And I gotta say I was wrong on this. I thought they'd end up because of their experience, Butler getting the team to the free throw line, and they're added toughness, but in the end, they've got limitations, and they don't know what the hell to do with Kaminga because he doesn't play well with Draymond or Butler where they're on the floor.

So I was wrong on the Warriors, where Colin was right.

So I was wrong on the Warriors, where Colin was right.

The Suns missed the playoffs, Katie makes another poor decision and Mike Budenholzer gets fired. I appreciated the swing, but let's be completely frank about this. Kevin Durantz won two playoffs series in five years since he left the Warriors, and he is just too remarkable an NBA player for that to be true. I hated the move away from Golden State. Everybody said he just wants to ball, but he's now just become a really talented, bounce around the league guy, which is beneath him.

The Suns missed the playoffs, Katie makes another poor decision and Mike Budenholzer gets fired. I appreciated the swing, but let's be completely frank about this. Kevin Durantz won two playoffs series in five years since he left the Warriors, and he is just too remarkable an NBA player for that to be true. I hated the move away from Golden State. Everybody said he just wants to ball, but he's now just become a really talented, bounce around the league guy, which is beneath him.

Where Colin was raw.

Where Colin was raw.

The Clippers are in the playoffs. I didn't love the Kawhi extension. He's been on fire. I didn't like letting Paul George go. His season was a mess. James Harden I was done with.

The Clippers are in the playoffs. I didn't love the Kawhi extension. He's been on fire. I didn't like letting Paul George go. His season was a mess. James Harden I was done with.

Boy was he good yesterday?

Boy was he good yesterday?

He played great down the stretch, and this team suddenly on fire. Kawhi Leonard is playing. He's great.

He played great down the stretch, and this team suddenly on fire. Kawhi Leonard is playing. He's great.

He's a get a bucket guy and yesterday Warriors couldn't stop him. Clippers are now in the playoffs, so I didn't like all their moves. They've got a lot of older.

He's a get a bucket guy and yesterday Warriors couldn't stop him. Clippers are now in the playoffs, so I didn't like all their moves. They've got a lot of older.

Guys and sometimes older guys just don't treat the regular season in the NBA with a great deal of urgency. But they got a great coach and played with some of it down the stretch.

Guys and sometimes older guys just don't treat the regular season in the NBA with a great deal of urgency. But they got a great coach and played with some of it down the stretch.

And here we are where Colin was right.

And here we are where Colin was right.

I always said, Jahn Morant is going to be Dereck Rose, a small guy that can't shoot that will force him to score at the rim, and he's going to get banged up and have injuries. Add in immaturity. He's in trouble with the league again for some hand grid.

I always said, Jahn Morant is going to be Dereck Rose, a small guy that can't shoot that will force him to score at the rim, and he's going to get banged up and have injuries. Add in immaturity. He's in trouble with the league again for some hand grid.

Aide, you know, a move.

Aide, you know, a move.

Which didn't bother me much, but it is what it is. And Jahn Morant has sort of become what we predicted, fun to watch, but I'm not going to build my franchise around him as a number one. And injuried if you're under six three Wall Russell Westbrook, a Jah Morana, Derrick Rose, and you're not a great perimeter shooter, well you've got to score at the rim?

Which didn't bother me much, but it is what it is. And Jahn Morant has sort of become what we predicted, fun to watch, but I'm not going to build my franchise around him as a number one. And injuried if you're under six three Wall Russell Westbrook, a Jah Morana, Derrick Rose, and you're not a great perimeter shooter, well you've got to score at the rim?

What does that mean? Collisions? What does that mean? Injuries?

What does that mean? Collisions? What does that mean? Injuries?

So the way it always works where Colin was raw, I think Shador Sanders in a bad quarterback draft is good enough to go two or three, But the odds out of Vegas, say the Saints with a number nine pick and the Steelers with a number twenty one pick.

So the way it always works where Colin was raw, I think Shador Sanders in a bad quarterback draft is good enough to go two or three, But the odds out of Vegas, say the Saints with a number nine pick and the Steelers with a number twenty one pick.

That's where he's going.

That's where he's going.

So now I would agree that he doesn't have a lot of special he didn't have a big arm, he's not super mobile. But I do think there's value in the fact that he's accurate composed. His dad was a pro athlete and he did not have a good old line or a run game at Colorado, so he has had to initiate offense. And let's be honest when you look at how bad the O line was, the fact that he completed seventy four percent of his throws and he actually played really well in games against really good teams with much better players. So I think he's a little bit better than the NFL people think. But he's moving down according to the odds makers.

So now I would agree that he doesn't have a lot of special he didn't have a big arm, he's not super mobile. But I do think there's value in the fact that he's accurate composed. His dad was a pro athlete and he did not have a good old line or a run game at Colorado, so he has had to initiate offense. And let's be honest when you look at how bad the O line was, the fact that he completed seventy four percent of his throws and he actually played really well in games against really good teams with much better players. So I think he's a little bit better than the NFL people think. But he's moving down according to the odds makers.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

I told you Aaron Rodgers doesn't buy Pittsburgh. It's fools, gold defensive coach, two needy receivers, battle line, Los Nagee Harris, and here we are. Aaron Rodgers is just waiting it out. I think it's the right move. I believe he wants to go to San Francisco if the pretty contract doesn't work, or Minnesota. I think he's right to want that. I think Aaron's too smart to make an impulsive, dumb decision. And I don't buy Pittsburgh for Aaron Rodgers. I think at his core he's an NFC North or a West Coast guy. He's got a beautiful place in Malibu, trains in Thousand Oaks. I don't think he should sign with Pittsburgh. I never thought he would sign with Pittsburgh, or at least didn't feel that way with great conviction. And I think he's making the right move where Colin was raw. I thought the Dodgers roster, especially the batting order, maybe the greatest since the seventy five Cincinnati Reds. They're hitting two twenty five. They're third in their division. They lost sixteen nothing to the Cubs Saturday. They lost their third straight series. They're not hitting at all.

I told you Aaron Rodgers doesn't buy Pittsburgh. It's fools, gold defensive coach, two needy receivers, battle line, Los Nagee Harris, and here we are. Aaron Rodgers is just waiting it out. I think it's the right move. I believe he wants to go to San Francisco if the pretty contract doesn't work, or Minnesota. I think he's right to want that. I think Aaron's too smart to make an impulsive, dumb decision. And I don't buy Pittsburgh for Aaron Rodgers. I think at his core he's an NFC North or a West Coast guy. He's got a beautiful place in Malibu, trains in Thousand Oaks. I don't think he should sign with Pittsburgh. I never thought he would sign with Pittsburgh, or at least didn't feel that way with great conviction. And I think he's making the right move where Colin was raw. I thought the Dodgers roster, especially the batting order, maybe the greatest since the seventy five Cincinnati Reds. They're hitting two twenty five. They're third in their division. They lost sixteen nothing to the Cubs Saturday. They lost their third straight series. They're not hitting at all.

Now.

Now.

This is a little bit on brand for the Dodgers, who tend to pick up steam midseason and beyond. And they did just win the World Series, and there is no real urgency in one hundred and sixty two game schedule, but they're struggling in the bullpen, and they are struggling at the plate, hitting only to twenty five, which is eighteenth.

This is a little bit on brand for the Dodgers, who tend to pick up steam midseason and beyond. And they did just win the World Series, and there is no real urgency in one hundred and sixty two game schedule, but they're struggling in the bullpen, and they are struggling at the plate, hitting only to twenty five, which is eighteenth.

Maybe they need more torpedo bats.

Maybe they need more torpedo bats.

Whatever it is, the Dodgers are playing or hitting particularly well. Colin Wright Colin wrong on a Monday and with that Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback joining his Live. So, I mean, I want to touch on the Aaron Rodgers thing. And I think Aeron's a smart guy. And I think when you're gonna sign your last deal in any profession, that saying no was powerful and making the right decision. Aaron's not desperate. He's got a lot of money. And I said this two weeks ago. You don't want to do a Kirk Cousins where you rush and then your team drafts a quarterback. I kind of like what Aaron's doing. I think he wants to play in Minnesota. Actually, what do you make of the drama? Do you think the Steelers are upset? Where do we sit now with Aaron's choice and where are the Steelers? Well?

Whatever it is, the Dodgers are playing or hitting particularly well. Colin Wright Colin wrong on a Monday and with that Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback joining his Live. So, I mean, I want to touch on the Aaron Rodgers thing. And I think Aeron's a smart guy. And I think when you're gonna sign your last deal in any profession, that saying no was powerful and making the right decision. Aaron's not desperate. He's got a lot of money. And I said this two weeks ago. You don't want to do a Kirk Cousins where you rush and then your team drafts a quarterback. I kind of like what Aaron's doing. I think he wants to play in Minnesota. Actually, what do you make of the drama? Do you think the Steelers are upset? Where do we sit now with Aaron's choice and where are the Steelers? Well?

No, I think you're right on Aaron wanted to play in Minnesota. Call and you know the Vikings have been told as much. And so the Vikings made the decision that they are going to at the very least give JJ McCarthy the entire spring and see where he's at at the end of that. There's obviously some unknown coming back off the knee injury. He lost four months of development time. They still think very highly of him, but you know, like they again are dealing with a bit of an unknown here. And the problem for Aaron now is are you banking on that? Are you banking on a young guy not playing to his potential over the course of the next two months.

No, I think you're right on Aaron wanted to play in Minnesota. Call and you know the Vikings have been told as much. And so the Vikings made the decision that they are going to at the very least give JJ McCarthy the entire spring and see where he's at at the end of that. There's obviously some unknown coming back off the knee injury. He lost four months of development time. They still think very highly of him, but you know, like they again are dealing with a bit of an unknown here. And the problem for Aaron now is are you banking on that? Are you banking on a young guy not playing to his potential over the course of the next two months.

That's not really a plan.

That's not really a plan.

Meanwhile, you have the Steelers, who you know, have been patient to this point, but do you get to the start of OTAs in May, and now you're talking about a team that's really got to get a quarterback in there, because that's not a rebuilding group, like that's a team with a bunch of win now players like t J. Watt and make A Fitzpatrick and DK Metcalf and Cam Hayward and so on and so forth. So the timing of this is a little wonky because the Steelers timetable is completely different.

Meanwhile, you have the Steelers, who you know, have been patient to this point, but do you get to the start of OTAs in May, and now you're talking about a team that's really got to get a quarterback in there, because that's not a rebuilding group, like that's a team with a bunch of win now players like t J. Watt and make A Fitzpatrick and DK Metcalf and Cam Hayward and so on and so forth. So the timing of this is a little wonky because the Steelers timetable is completely different.

Than the Vikings timetable.

Than the Vikings timetable.

And if he were to walk away for the Steelers and say the Steelers trade for Kirk Cousins at the beginning of May, and that option.

And if he were to walk away for the Steelers and say the Steelers trade for Kirk Cousins at the beginning of May, and that option.

Comes off the table. Well, he's not guaranteed that the Vikings option will be.

Comes off the table. Well, he's not guaranteed that the Vikings option will be.

There in the middle of June, so it's a little bit of a weird spot to be in.

There in the middle of June, so it's a little bit of a weird spot to be in.

I do think he wants to play.

I do think he wants to play.

He's given you know, he's given people get the Jets's indication. He's give him the Steelers this indication that he does want to play in twenty twenty five. I don't think retirement's completely off the table, but you know, the way his option is set up right.

He's given you know, he's given people get the Jets's indication. He's give him the Steelers this indication that he does want to play in twenty twenty five. I don't think retirement's completely off the table, but you know, the way his option is set up right.

Now is with some wonkey timing.

Now is with some wonkey timing.

You know, I look at this quarterback class and usually I'm so fired up for the draft and and I'll watch every like the Masters yesterday, I'll watch it.

You know, I look at this quarterback class and usually I'm so fired up for the draft and and I'll watch every like the Masters yesterday, I'll watch it.

I'll watch the whole weekend.

I'll watch the whole weekend.

And I do think cam Ward is a pretty obvious number one pick.

And I do think cam Ward is a pretty obvious number one pick.

But tell me the momentum of it.

But tell me the momentum of it.

You know, as we get to the draft, sometimes you get impulsive owners, impulsive general managers. I could see Cleveland. I said this, whenever you inherit or get a bad quarterback deal like a Russell Wilson and denvig Or Deershaun Watson. The way out of it is draft a quarterback and hit on him, or trade down and just accumulate a bunch of picks and hit on him, so you have cheap labor for four to five years. I could see Cleveland just literally trading down, getting twelve draft picks and saying, our only way out of this, we'll get Kyle McCord in the second round.

You know, as we get to the draft, sometimes you get impulsive owners, impulsive general managers. I could see Cleveland. I said this, whenever you inherit or get a bad quarterback deal like a Russell Wilson and denvig Or Deershaun Watson. The way out of it is draft a quarterback and hit on him, or trade down and just accumulate a bunch of picks and hit on him, so you have cheap labor for four to five years. I could see Cleveland just literally trading down, getting twelve draft picks and saying, our only way out of this, we'll get Kyle McCord in the second round.

We got to get cheap.

We got to get cheap.

I mean, Cleveland to me is the team I can see taking a huge trade down. Swing your thoughts on that, is there a team that that scenario will for.

I mean, Cleveland to me is the team I can see taking a huge trade down. Swing your thoughts on that, is there a team that that scenario will for.

So here's the problem, and I think this is sort of a logistical issue when it comes to trading around in the top of the first round of this draft, is you have two guys that are seen as far above the rest of the class when we're talking about non quarterbacks in Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. After that, I mean, there are twelve fifteen players that a lot of teams see is virtually the same, and all those guys might have been the fifteen, sixteen, seventeenth pick in last year's draft. So if you're a Cleveland you're looking at it and you're saying, well, if we trade down to say five or six or seven, that's the equivalent of trading down to fifteen or twenty last year.

So here's the problem, and I think this is sort of a logistical issue when it comes to trading around in the top of the first round of this draft, is you have two guys that are seen as far above the rest of the class when we're talking about non quarterbacks in Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. After that, I mean, there are twelve fifteen players that a lot of teams see is virtually the same, and all those guys might have been the fifteen, sixteen, seventeenth pick in last year's draft. So if you're a Cleveland you're looking at it and you're saying, well, if we trade down to say five or six or seven, that's the equivalent of trading down to fifteen or twenty last year.

Well, then you're gonna want that sort of value coming back.

Well, then you're gonna want that sort of value coming back.

And if you're going to pay that print for a non quarterback, like, do you view Travis Hunter or a Carter worthech to come up for.

And if you're going to pay that print for a non quarterback, like, do you view Travis Hunter or a Carter worthech to come up for.

So I just think that the.

So I just think that the.

Logistics of the way the class sets up is going to make it difficult to move around in the top of the first round. I don't think Cleveland's going to take a quarterback second. Overall, my guest would be right now Travis Hunter. If not, I'm almost certain it would be abduall Carter and then they'll double back in the quarterback position in the second or third round. I think they'd be open to the idea of moving back, but I think it would take a lot for another team to come up from even the bottom of the top ten. And you know, if that team's looking at coming out for Carter Hunter, I don't know that they would pay a quarterback premium to come up and do that.

Logistics of the way the class sets up is going to make it difficult to move around in the top of the first round. I don't think Cleveland's going to take a quarterback second. Overall, my guest would be right now Travis Hunter. If not, I'm almost certain it would be abduall Carter and then they'll double back in the quarterback position in the second or third round. I think they'd be open to the idea of moving back, but I think it would take a lot for another team to come up from even the bottom of the top ten. And you know, if that team's looking at coming out for Carter Hunter, I don't know that they would pay a quarterback premium to come up and do that.

So Nico Iamaliava, quarterback at Tennessee, says, Hey, that guy at duke that just transferred from Tulane. He's making four million. I want four million to play for Tennessee And so now they'll probably be a bidding war whether he's worth that or not. Tennessee drives one hundred and forty nine million dollars in revenue last year. There's about six programs. Ohio State's one of them, Tennessee Georgia. They just drive massive numbers Texas Football and I listen, I blame the NC DOUBLEA, not the kid. The reason that UFC has grown in boxing has largely died is let's be honest, it's the people at the top. It's Dana White and no governing body that you could depend on in boxing. And so I think this is on the NC DOUBLEA. They've been playing catch up with the NIL. There's not enough guardrails and guidelines and rules. I don't blame the kid, but when you talk to people about this and he manned up a buckuy, who knows, I mean, he's going to have a market. Would this Does this hurt him in the eyes of the NFL?

So Nico Iamaliava, quarterback at Tennessee, says, Hey, that guy at duke that just transferred from Tulane. He's making four million. I want four million to play for Tennessee And so now they'll probably be a bidding war whether he's worth that or not. Tennessee drives one hundred and forty nine million dollars in revenue last year. There's about six programs. Ohio State's one of them, Tennessee Georgia. They just drive massive numbers Texas Football and I listen, I blame the NC DOUBLEA, not the kid. The reason that UFC has grown in boxing has largely died is let's be honest, it's the people at the top. It's Dana White and no governing body that you could depend on in boxing. And so I think this is on the NC DOUBLEA. They've been playing catch up with the NIL. There's not enough guardrails and guidelines and rules. I don't blame the kid, but when you talk to people about this and he manned up a buckuy, who knows, I mean, he's going to have a market. Would this Does this hurt him in the eyes of the NFL?

I would say yes, And it's not like any sort of death nail. But I think from a developmental standpoint, You know, you do question what this is going to look like. He's already through spring practice, so he's going to be jumping on a moving train with another team. He was a good, not great player at Tennessee last year. He's got talent, yes, but does that mean he's going to be a fifth or sixth round pick or a fifth or sixth pick in the draft. I think a lot of that is still to be determined because he is so young and he doesn't have a lot of experience. Then, of course, there's the bigger picture question here, which is if this guy gets to a point three years into his career, four years into his career, where he's not happy with his contract, how quickly does he start making noise about that? Because this isn't the first time we've heard about this sort of stuff from Nico. It actually happened the first time when he was in high school. How are you going to manage the people around him? Those would be questions for any player, and those questions are asked at a higher level when you're talking about the guy who's supposed to be the tone setter for your entire organization at quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean I think this does affect the way that the NFL will look at Nico. Obviously, a lot's going to ride on however he plays at UCLA or wherever else he want, lines up and and and a big part of it is because he is a quarterback, and because quarterbacks are held to a higher standard. So I think there's a whole set of new questions that NFL teams would have for Nico that.

I would say yes, And it's not like any sort of death nail. But I think from a developmental standpoint, You know, you do question what this is going to look like. He's already through spring practice, so he's going to be jumping on a moving train with another team. He was a good, not great player at Tennessee last year. He's got talent, yes, but does that mean he's going to be a fifth or sixth round pick or a fifth or sixth pick in the draft. I think a lot of that is still to be determined because he is so young and he doesn't have a lot of experience. Then, of course, there's the bigger picture question here, which is if this guy gets to a point three years into his career, four years into his career, where he's not happy with his contract, how quickly does he start making noise about that? Because this isn't the first time we've heard about this sort of stuff from Nico. It actually happened the first time when he was in high school. How are you going to manage the people around him? Those would be questions for any player, and those questions are asked at a higher level when you're talking about the guy who's supposed to be the tone setter for your entire organization at quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean I think this does affect the way that the NFL will look at Nico. Obviously, a lot's going to ride on however he plays at UCLA or wherever else he want, lines up and and and a big part of it is because he is a quarterback, and because quarterbacks are held to a higher standard. So I think there's a whole set of new questions that NFL teams would have for Nico that.