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Oh here we go. What a night in the association. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well. Jmat as a Knicks fan, probably feeling really good right about now, giddy, downright giddy about not only the Knicks winning, but how about the Oklahoma City Thunder absolutely gagging Colin, I was lasting. It's not a cliche when we say don't trust young teams in the playoffs. They would have been better off being on the road. They could feel it. They got tight, their coach got tight, everybody got set home. Wow, all right, let's start with this. Okay, the Celtics lost at home. Bizarrely, they're not even that good at home. They're actually a better road team. Nick fans. I've never seen a game one upset that means less. This is the only game the Knicks are gonna win. Boston's not gonna miss forty five threes. I know. Enjoy the moment, Nick fans, you are feeling it today. Oh give me a break. Boston got a twenty point lead. They hammered this team all year, they fell asleep, and then they just took bad shots. Jason Tatum, he froze. He does that from time to time. He does it much more than any of his fan boys want to admit. It was the classic Jason Tatum game late where you're like, is he on the floor? Is he playing? Where's Jason Tatum? But the Wings og played well, Michale Bridges, they were running off shooters, defended well. They deserve credit. But the Celtics had the third fewest laps in the league and the fewest free throws. What does it mean shots? They don't. They just live and die with a three. And like those great Warrior teams when Stephan Clay weren't hitting them, they had bad nights. They got blown out multiple times in the finals. So I mean Boston, they don't get laps, they don't shoot mid range, they don't get to the free throw line. They're shooting sixty threes. And last night, I mean in the second half in overtime or second half yeah, and overtime, Yeah, they shot forty nine shots. Thirty seven were threes. And I will defend Jason Tatum later on in this show because I think he's a little bit trapped with his team. But the reality is, you see this from Boston, and strangely, it's often at home. They're a great road team, they're a better road team than the home team. But they have these nights and you know, Jason Tatum, nobody wants to admit it, but he has these collaborative nights where he's just settling for bad shots. And again, I think he could draw more fouls. But this is what Boston is. They're going to be fine. The Knicks have absolute offensive limitations. It's gonna be okay. Boston's not gonna shoot like this. I mean, the first quarter was classic Knicks. They were out playing Boston. Boston was rusty, and the Knicks kept missing free throws. They couldn't get the free throws, right, I was on money line Knicks first quarter two j Max, They couldn't hit free throws, so the Knicks have an absolute ceiling. But Boston they give you one of these every so often. And I've said before they remind me a lot of the Warriors team. But back when the Warriors were shooting all the threes, the rest of the league was not. But Boston leads the league in threes. They don't get to the free throw line. They don't create layups or mid range shots. So when they have one of these awful shooting halves, I mean they led by twenty. They dominate this team. And we've said this all the time. In the NFL. You'll see a team lead twenty eight to seven at half and the game ends like thirty one twenty seven, and you're like, we were so close that it's not really It's hard to ask athletes who dominate an opponent over and over and over to always bring their a game. In Boston had a bad second half, settled for too many bad shots. And here's Jalen Brown after the loss.

Oh here we go. What a night in the association. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well. Jmat as a Knicks fan, probably feeling really good right about now, giddy, downright giddy about not only the Knicks winning, but how about the Oklahoma City Thunder absolutely gagging Colin, I was lasting. It's not a cliche when we say don't trust young teams in the playoffs. They would have been better off being on the road. They could feel it. They got tight, their coach got tight, everybody got set home. Wow, all right, let's start with this. Okay, the Celtics lost at home. Bizarrely, they're not even that good at home. They're actually a better road team. Nick fans. I've never seen a game one upset that means less. This is the only game the Knicks are gonna win. Boston's not gonna miss forty five threes. I know. Enjoy the moment, Nick fans, you are feeling it today. Oh give me a break. Boston got a twenty point lead. They hammered this team all year, they fell asleep, and then they just took bad shots. Jason Tatum, he froze. He does that from time to time. He does it much more than any of his fan boys want to admit. It was the classic Jason Tatum game late where you're like, is he on the floor? Is he playing? Where's Jason Tatum? But the Wings og played well, Michale Bridges, they were running off shooters, defended well. They deserve credit. But the Celtics had the third fewest laps in the league and the fewest free throws. What does it mean shots? They don't. They just live and die with a three. And like those great Warrior teams when Stephan Clay weren't hitting them, they had bad nights. They got blown out multiple times in the finals. So I mean Boston, they don't get laps, they don't shoot mid range, they don't get to the free throw line. They're shooting sixty threes. And last night, I mean in the second half in overtime or second half yeah, and overtime, Yeah, they shot forty nine shots. Thirty seven were threes. And I will defend Jason Tatum later on in this show because I think he's a little bit trapped with his team. But the reality is, you see this from Boston, and strangely, it's often at home. They're a great road team, they're a better road team than the home team. But they have these nights and you know, Jason Tatum, nobody wants to admit it, but he has these collaborative nights where he's just settling for bad shots. And again, I think he could draw more fouls. But this is what Boston is. They're going to be fine. The Knicks have absolute offensive limitations. It's gonna be okay. Boston's not gonna shoot like this. I mean, the first quarter was classic Knicks. They were out playing Boston. Boston was rusty, and the Knicks kept missing free throws. They couldn't get the free throws, right, I was on money line Knicks first quarter two j Max, They couldn't hit free throws, so the Knicks have an absolute ceiling. But Boston they give you one of these every so often. And I've said before they remind me a lot of the Warriors team. But back when the Warriors were shooting all the threes, the rest of the league was not. But Boston leads the league in threes. They don't get to the free throw line. They don't create layups or mid range shots. So when they have one of these awful shooting halves, I mean they led by twenty. They dominate this team. And we've said this all the time. In the NFL. You'll see a team lead twenty eight to seven at half and the game ends like thirty one twenty seven, and you're like, we were so close that it's not really It's hard to ask athletes who dominate an opponent over and over and over to always bring their a game. In Boston had a bad second half, settled for too many bad shots. And here's Jalen Brown after the loss.

I feel like we just settled in the second half a lot. Some of them feel good, some of them feel like we may be forced to issue in definitely our rhythm and our our timing was a little bit off. We got a lot of great looks those moments when other team got momentum, we can't and just fire up threes. You know, to break up momentum, you gotta get to the free throw line. Gets it a pain and gets hit a basket.

I feel like we just settled in the second half a lot. Some of them feel good, some of them feel like we may be forced to issue in definitely our rhythm and our our timing was a little bit off. We got a lot of great looks those moments when other team got momentum, we can't and just fire up threes. You know, to break up momentum, you gotta get to the free throw line. Gets it a pain and gets hit a basket.

They're going to be just fined and Jason Tata is going to be just fine, and I'll defend him in about ten minutes. All right, Let's go to the opposite of the Boston Celtics, literally the opposite team, the Denver Nuggets, who has an underdog, went into okase and dominated the late game situations. The Nuggets shoot the fewest threes in the NBA. They live at the free throw line because Jokic can create so many opportunities around the basket. And Jokic, unlike Tatum, is a coach on the floor, does not care if he offends people. Is mostly collaborative, but sometimes he takes over. And if you go to the fourth quarter, okse got tight. The young, nervous, at times terrified, thunder at home froze. They froze. And this was Yokic at his best coaching and playing. He is the anti Kawhi he communicates with everybody. I mean, obviously he empowers Aaron Gordon and Russell Westbrook, but it should be noted Jamal Murray as well. I mean this right now. There was a time when Michael Jordan, I've told the story before. I was on a couch watching Michael Jordan against the Phoenix Suns in the final and with a with a with a friend who's a great basketball player, and I said, why can't there be more Michaels. I mean, he's not the strongest player or the biggest player. He's not the best ball handler, the best shooter. The NBA average size is sixty six. He's six six, kind of thin. I mean, I know he can jump, but Dominique at a higher vertical Michael was so much better than even Charles Barkley, you know, like even a team. And you watch Jokic. He is so far and away the best basketball player in the world. And now he's also the best player coach, which Bill Russell did for a while. I mean, you got Tatum, he can freeze. You got Giannis, don't trust him, late can't hit a free throw. You got Mbat he's never healthy. You got Kawhi weird personality. You've got Luca who's not in great shape and is not willing to defend. And for the record, not only is Jokic flawless offensively, he's actually an improved defensive player. He looks like he's in better shape. So again, this game was not just Jokich, although he was remarkable. Westbrook once again gives you so many tools in the bag, including improved shooting. Congrats to a shooting coach. Also, Aaron Gordon is another one of these guys. I was talking before the show to Jmac, that young player for Houston. I love a Men Thompson. Aaron Gordon's like a bigger, stronger, more experienced version of a Men Thompson. He just does everything. Rebounds, block shots late in games, tipping it, defending length, relentless energy, and he it's the game winner last night. And what I love about Jokich is this mentality. Here's an organization that went through a coaching change a week before the playoffs, so you can see Yokic on the sideline. He's literally like, you know, we're all like, we got to be included in this. If you go back to that Clipper Denver series, this is what the Clippers needed, and they have a great coach in Tylu, but Kawhi doesn't provide that, and Harden certainly doesn't provide that. It's always excuses for those two. Here is Jokic saying, yeah, I'm not going to be stoic. It's not a time to be stoic. He is coaching, he is playing, he is elevating and but but again, not at all a guy that has to take the last shot. It's Westbrook and Aaron Gordon who combined for the last shot. And here's Jokic after he's.

They're going to be just fined and Jason Tata is going to be just fine, and I'll defend him in about ten minutes. All right, Let's go to the opposite of the Boston Celtics, literally the opposite team, the Denver Nuggets, who has an underdog, went into okase and dominated the late game situations. The Nuggets shoot the fewest threes in the NBA. They live at the free throw line because Jokic can create so many opportunities around the basket. And Jokic, unlike Tatum, is a coach on the floor, does not care if he offends people. Is mostly collaborative, but sometimes he takes over. And if you go to the fourth quarter, okse got tight. The young, nervous, at times terrified, thunder at home froze. They froze. And this was Yokic at his best coaching and playing. He is the anti Kawhi he communicates with everybody. I mean, obviously he empowers Aaron Gordon and Russell Westbrook, but it should be noted Jamal Murray as well. I mean this right now. There was a time when Michael Jordan, I've told the story before. I was on a couch watching Michael Jordan against the Phoenix Suns in the final and with a with a with a friend who's a great basketball player, and I said, why can't there be more Michaels. I mean, he's not the strongest player or the biggest player. He's not the best ball handler, the best shooter. The NBA average size is sixty six. He's six six, kind of thin. I mean, I know he can jump, but Dominique at a higher vertical Michael was so much better than even Charles Barkley, you know, like even a team. And you watch Jokic. He is so far and away the best basketball player in the world. And now he's also the best player coach, which Bill Russell did for a while. I mean, you got Tatum, he can freeze. You got Giannis, don't trust him, late can't hit a free throw. You got Mbat he's never healthy. You got Kawhi weird personality. You've got Luca who's not in great shape and is not willing to defend. And for the record, not only is Jokic flawless offensively, he's actually an improved defensive player. He looks like he's in better shape. So again, this game was not just Jokich, although he was remarkable. Westbrook once again gives you so many tools in the bag, including improved shooting. Congrats to a shooting coach. Also, Aaron Gordon is another one of these guys. I was talking before the show to Jmac, that young player for Houston. I love a Men Thompson. Aaron Gordon's like a bigger, stronger, more experienced version of a Men Thompson. He just does everything. Rebounds, block shots late in games, tipping it, defending length, relentless energy, and he it's the game winner last night. And what I love about Jokich is this mentality. Here's an organization that went through a coaching change a week before the playoffs, so you can see Yokic on the sideline. He's literally like, you know, we're all like, we got to be included in this. If you go back to that Clipper Denver series, this is what the Clippers needed, and they have a great coach in Tylu, but Kawhi doesn't provide that, and Harden certainly doesn't provide that. It's always excuses for those two. Here is Jokic saying, yeah, I'm not going to be stoic. It's not a time to be stoic. He is coaching, he is playing, he is elevating and but but again, not at all a guy that has to take the last shot. It's Westbrook and Aaron Gordon who combined for the last shot. And here's Jokic after he's.

The soul of this team. He's a glue guy. He's probably doesn't give him much respect that he deserve. But I think he doesn't need no attention. So he knows what he's doing. So I'm happy for him.

The soul of this team. He's a glue guy. He's probably doesn't give him much respect that he deserve. But I think he doesn't need no attention. So he knows what he's doing. So I'm happy for him.

A remarkable, remarkable night. And we were talking about this. There are a lot of cliches in basketball, right in all sports. But don't trust young guys in the play. People always say to me, how come you don't respect OKC. It's not that I don't respect them, I don't trust them. I respect a lot of people, love many, trust few. I don't trust Okac. In a big spot chat, Holmgren was nervous, the coach was nervous. And by the way, OKAYC. He's one of those collaborative teams. You get it and I get it. But to be honest with you, I want to Skja with the ball. That's why I want shooting every shot eight straight. I wish Tatum. You know Sga in the regular season, he's a machine. But when you get into these playoff games. That's why OKC played no close games this year. Minnesota led the NBA in close games and clutch moments. So here you get OKC rolling everybody, and it's like, oh wait, we're the favorite. Denver's older and wiser, all these great players. How many playoff games is Westbrook and Jokich and Murray and Gordon, O Casey got tight? They're not in close games. This isn't college football where if you're winning by three touchdowns you just have better players. I mean, I would argue O case he's got a deeper roster. But if you're giving me a starting five and I get Jokich and Murray and Gordon, and then I get like a Westbrook who's a spark plug. We talked about this yesterday the betting markets have o Casey is an overwhelming favorite. Time out. Young teams do not sweep veteran teams with a trophy who have been in these games. We've been trying to bury the Warriors for six years. Denver's not going anywhere. That is a really good team. J Mac. By the way, Steph didn't play last night. Lebron didn't play last night, and the league was fine. Ow, it's it's one night. We get Jalen Brunson last night put on a brook.

A remarkable, remarkable night. And we were talking about this. There are a lot of cliches in basketball, right in all sports. But don't trust young guys in the play. People always say to me, how come you don't respect OKC. It's not that I don't respect them, I don't trust them. I respect a lot of people, love many, trust few. I don't trust Okac. In a big spot chat, Holmgren was nervous, the coach was nervous. And by the way, OKAYC. He's one of those collaborative teams. You get it and I get it. But to be honest with you, I want to Skja with the ball. That's why I want shooting every shot eight straight. I wish Tatum. You know Sga in the regular season, he's a machine. But when you get into these playoff games. That's why OKC played no close games this year. Minnesota led the NBA in close games and clutch moments. So here you get OKC rolling everybody, and it's like, oh wait, we're the favorite. Denver's older and wiser, all these great players. How many playoff games is Westbrook and Jokich and Murray and Gordon, O Casey got tight? They're not in close games. This isn't college football where if you're winning by three touchdowns you just have better players. I mean, I would argue O case he's got a deeper roster. But if you're giving me a starting five and I get Jokich and Murray and Gordon, and then I get like a Westbrook who's a spark plug. We talked about this yesterday the betting markets have o Casey is an overwhelming favorite. Time out. Young teams do not sweep veteran teams with a trophy who have been in these games. We've been trying to bury the Warriors for six years. Denver's not going anywhere. That is a really good team. J Mac. By the way, Steph didn't play last night. Lebron didn't play last night, and the league was fine. Ow, it's it's one night. We get Jalen Brunson last night put on a brook.

How good is Jylan?

How good is Jylan?

We need to start honestly putting him in context with his greatness. Jalen Brunson is magnificent to watch. I know you love him, right, Yes, I'm one of your favorite players, really really like him as a player. Now, next hour to start Nick Wright. But I am so I do four predictions before the NFL season. This will be my second. Okay, So I do the coaching and free agencies all done, and then I do the coaching free agency draft is all done. So forty five minutes from now, I'll tell you who. I have some changes, mostly middle and bottom of divisions. You're not going to like all of them. And then we have Nick Right as well. Are the forty nine ers on your playoff? Are they in there? Just miss by six games? Six? So we got a good show today. Last night was so much fun. A Rocket Mortgage lowering down payments to one percent for eligible home buyers with one plus. You hur it right. One percent down on home ownership with one plus from Rocket Mortgage. Go to eight hundred four Rocket or Rocket dot Com, Rocket Mortgage Life Instant all fifty state.

We need to start honestly putting him in context with his greatness. Jalen Brunson is magnificent to watch. I know you love him, right, Yes, I'm one of your favorite players, really really like him as a player. Now, next hour to start Nick Wright. But I am so I do four predictions before the NFL season. This will be my second. Okay, So I do the coaching and free agencies all done, and then I do the coaching free agency draft is all done. So forty five minutes from now, I'll tell you who. I have some changes, mostly middle and bottom of divisions. You're not going to like all of them. And then we have Nick Right as well. Are the forty nine ers on your playoff? Are they in there? Just miss by six games? Six? So we got a good show today. Last night was so much fun. A Rocket Mortgage lowering down payments to one percent for eligible home buyers with one plus. You hur it right. One percent down on home ownership with one plus from Rocket Mortgage. Go to eight hundred four Rocket or Rocket dot Com, Rocket Mortgage Life Instant all fifty state.

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So listen. I could beat up on Jason Tatum today, but there's so much I like about him. Smart, thoughtful, collaborative, good teammate, great player. So let me put this. You know, Phil Jackson is the greatest basketball coach, and Steve Kurz pretty good, and so is Spulster. There's a lot of good coaches Papovich, but Phil Jackson was the zen master and he did the triangle offense. But there was also times that Phil knew, I'm all back up Kobe's on a heater. I'm gonna let Michael do what Michael's doing. And I say this all the time about business. You can't get too rigid. You gotta make exceptions. Every day at this company, you gotta make an exception. You can have values, you can have vision. But here's where I'm gonna defend Jason Tatum. So he had another one of those nights where he lacked aggressiveness and it looks like he was one to nine in fourth quarter and overtime. So listen, Steph had bad nights. I saw a finals game Michael Jordan against Utah. He had a bad night. Kobe had bad nights, Shack had bad nights. That's okay. What I don't want is my super talented athletic six' eight wing with great handles settling for. Threes but The celtics three point culture is demanding. It so it Puts Jason, tatum a, collaborative nice, guy in a weird. Spot his free throw numbers have gone down three straight. Years why because The celtics want more threes than if you shoot, threes you don't get to the free throw. Line that's why it Took Jimmy butler for The warriors to finally get to the three point. Line So tatum can easily beat guys off the dribble all night, long but he keeps getting to the free throw line less and less because The celtics are. Paralyzed they have this culture where they're just. Paralyzed we got to shoot fifty five, threes AND i think it Puts Jason, tatum a nice guy in a collaborative, guy in a weird. Spot so last, NIGHT i mean, again If kobe was on this, team he would Get missoula. FIRED i, Mean Michael jordan would Have missoula going upstairs. Daily michael would fight this, stuff And Phil jackson understood sometimes you just gotta let special. Happen and last, night nine seconds, left game is tied on one of three From Jason. TATUM i want to, bucket put it on the deck and beat your, man, which by the, way he. Can he's a brilliant basketball. Player but The celtics shoot more. THREES i mean they literally last in THE nba in free throw attempts and third to last in. Layups it's like when they're, bad they just, Settle and SO i think there are coaches SOMETIMES i Think Jayson tatum should just impose his will and deal with the. Repercussions. Later who cares If missoula yells at, You they're not going to Fire. Tatum they'd move off a coach before they'd move Off Jason. Tatum but this is just. This it's kind of Like Bobby knight, basketball, Right, like this is the way we play basketball players more than any, athlete along with soccer, stars they're. Artists you have to let them improvise basketball at its. Best they call soccer the beautiful game because it is the great. Players they just need. Opportunities you just gotta Let ronaldo do his, thing play out of structure from time to. Time it doesn't mean you're blowing up. Structure you're not creating a. Precedents Just Jason tatum's the best, player, dude it's your. Ball next. Three just get to the, basket get to the, line get out of the culture in the system that's paralyzed by. Three so, Again tatum is such a nice guy and he is such a great collaborative player THAT i watch his body. Language there are times that's like and By you can watch him put the ball in the deck and immediately beat his. Guy he could get to the basket all night, long but he's gonna play within the. System he's a do guy and he's A celtic, guy and the culture does. Work but last night you got nine seconds left and it's, Again jason just go get. Fouled he's a brilliant player WHO i believe at, times not all the, time but at times feels he's a little trapped by this three point culture that doesn't want mid. RANGE i, mean look at the shots fourth quarter and. Overtime look at the second half shots for The. CELTICS i mean they just. Settle that's what they. Do that's why they never get to the free throw. Lines why The warriors Before, jimmy they don't get to the free throw. Line Here's tatum After how do you.

So listen. I could beat up on Jason Tatum today, but there's so much I like about him. Smart, thoughtful, collaborative, good teammate, great player. So let me put this. You know, Phil Jackson is the greatest basketball coach, and Steve Kurz pretty good, and so is Spulster. There's a lot of good coaches Papovich, but Phil Jackson was the zen master and he did the triangle offense. But there was also times that Phil knew, I'm all back up Kobe's on a heater. I'm gonna let Michael do what Michael's doing. And I say this all the time about business. You can't get too rigid. You gotta make exceptions. Every day at this company, you gotta make an exception. You can have values, you can have vision. But here's where I'm gonna defend Jason Tatum. So he had another one of those nights where he lacked aggressiveness and it looks like he was one to nine in fourth quarter and overtime. So listen, Steph had bad nights. I saw a finals game Michael Jordan against Utah. He had a bad night. Kobe had bad nights, Shack had bad nights. That's okay. What I don't want is my super talented athletic six' eight wing with great handles settling for. Threes but The celtics three point culture is demanding. It so it Puts Jason, tatum a, collaborative nice, guy in a weird. Spot his free throw numbers have gone down three straight. Years why because The celtics want more threes than if you shoot, threes you don't get to the free throw. Line that's why it Took Jimmy butler for The warriors to finally get to the three point. Line So tatum can easily beat guys off the dribble all night, long but he keeps getting to the free throw line less and less because The celtics are. Paralyzed they have this culture where they're just. Paralyzed we got to shoot fifty five, threes AND i think it Puts Jason, tatum a nice guy in a collaborative, guy in a weird. Spot so last, NIGHT i mean, again If kobe was on this, team he would Get missoula. FIRED i, Mean Michael jordan would Have missoula going upstairs. Daily michael would fight this, stuff And Phil jackson understood sometimes you just gotta let special. Happen and last, night nine seconds, left game is tied on one of three From Jason. TATUM i want to, bucket put it on the deck and beat your, man, which by the, way he. Can he's a brilliant basketball. Player but The celtics shoot more. THREES i mean they literally last in THE nba in free throw attempts and third to last in. Layups it's like when they're, bad they just, Settle and SO i think there are coaches SOMETIMES i Think Jayson tatum should just impose his will and deal with the. Repercussions. Later who cares If missoula yells at, You they're not going to Fire. Tatum they'd move off a coach before they'd move Off Jason. Tatum but this is just. This it's kind of Like Bobby knight, basketball, Right, like this is the way we play basketball players more than any, athlete along with soccer, stars they're. Artists you have to let them improvise basketball at its. Best they call soccer the beautiful game because it is the great. Players they just need. Opportunities you just gotta Let ronaldo do his, thing play out of structure from time to. Time it doesn't mean you're blowing up. Structure you're not creating a. Precedents Just Jason tatum's the best, player, dude it's your. Ball next. Three just get to the, basket get to the, line get out of the culture in the system that's paralyzed by. Three so, Again tatum is such a nice guy and he is such a great collaborative player THAT i watch his body. Language there are times that's like and By you can watch him put the ball in the deck and immediately beat his. Guy he could get to the basket all night, long but he's gonna play within the. System he's a do guy and he's A celtic, guy and the culture does. Work but last night you got nine seconds left and it's, Again jason just go get. Fouled he's a brilliant player WHO i believe at, times not all the, time but at times feels he's a little trapped by this three point culture that doesn't want mid. RANGE i, mean look at the shots fourth quarter and. Overtime look at the second half shots for The. CELTICS i mean they just. Settle that's what they. Do that's why they never get to the free throw. Lines why The warriors Before, jimmy they don't get to the free throw. Line Here's tatum After how do you.

Not let your frustrating with lack of calls prevents you from attacking if you don't think you're gonna get a. Call that is that connected at?

Not let your frustrating with lack of calls prevents you from attacking if you don't think you're gonna get a. Call that is that connected at?

All, NO i don't. CONNECT i mean it's the, playoffs like you, know we probably just play without the. Reps we it's how physical it. Is H so you know that don't really cross cross my.

All, NO i don't. CONNECT i mean it's the, playoffs like you, know we probably just play without the. Reps we it's how physical it. Is H so you know that don't really cross cross my.

Mind and by the, Way Matt stafford Super, Bowl, Yeah i'm not even gonna look Where i'm. Throwing Remember sean mcvahon the sidelines With Aaron. Donald aaron's gonna blow this play Up Lawrence. Taylor Sometimes lawrence is gonna line up Where lawrence wants to line. Up i'm not anti, structure But Jason tatum can beat every, guy every wing in the. League he can beat off the dribble four to five. Times Sometimes i'm not looking for a, Three i'm looking for a.

Mind and by the, Way Matt stafford Super, Bowl, Yeah i'm not even gonna look Where i'm. Throwing Remember sean mcvahon the sidelines With Aaron. Donald aaron's gonna blow this play Up Lawrence. Taylor Sometimes lawrence is gonna line up Where lawrence wants to line. Up i'm not anti, structure But Jason tatum can beat every, guy every wing in the. League he can beat off the dribble four to five. Times Sometimes i'm not looking for a, Three i'm looking for a.

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Rich when there's coaching changes and free agency's, DONE i give AN nfl. Prediction then after the, draft yes drafts, MATTER i make another. Prediction then after camp or during, Camps i'll make a, prediction and then right before the, season The thursday of the, SEASON i make my final. Prediction So i've got a lot of, changes but most at the bottom of. Divisions so let's start THE, afc so the. EASIEST i would bet my car on this. One bill's win it dominant, quarterback not, close and well. Coached. Patriots i've said, this they will be The washington of THE. NFL i Predicted washington And denver would be the most improved Teams i'm predicting The patriots will be the most improved. Team drake may actually has a coach and they've made major. Upgrades oh and d. Line dolphins aren't. Good they're going, backwards But i'll take them over The, jets WHERE i don't like anything all. Right next up THE Afc. North even If Aaron rodgers shows, up they're not beating The ravens Or. Bengals, BROWNS i think are looking for a Quarterback Arch manning in next year's. DRAFT i like THEIR, Gm Andrew berry And Kevin stefanski don't like. OWNERSHIP i feel pretty good about THIS Afc. South i'm gonna make a. CHANGE i think The texans win it going, away and The titans are a wild card. TEAM i will take The jaguars third and all move The colts down to. FOURTH i don't know who's playing quarterback for The. Colts my guess Is Daniel jones wins. Eventually but The, jaguars to their town, credit got the best player in the draft In Travis. Hunter he will make an. Impact they upgraded their offensive line, significantly so again it's not, much But i'll take The jaguars third and The colts fourth and in THE Afc, WEST i feel the same. Way it's, inches not. FEET i think The chargers embodied empowered their run, game and they're going to be a ball control offense with two great, tackles a great, coach a great, quarterback and two excellent running. Backs they also upgraded a tight. END i think they're going to be not as much sizzle as you may, want but they're just going to ground. Teams it'll be Classic Jim harbaugh year. Two you will be looking at a team that is completely different than they were two years. Ago shes still win ten to, eleven maybe, twelve but they've been a Second broncos And. Raiders didn't love The broncos. Draft so MY afc playoff Predictions Bill's, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, Patriots bengals are new in. Chiefs we go to THE nfc, now WHERE i do have more. Changes Eagles commander's going. Away i'm gonna put The giants at third and The cowboys at. FOUR i thought The giants actually got impact guys in the. DRAFT i Thought skataboo the running, back will absolutely make an, impact And Abdull carter hate that he's asking For Lawrence taylor's. Jersey but he's gonna be an impact. Guy they've already got a good d. Line it'll be even. Better cowboys Hiring Brian schottenneimer big, Mistake barry Dak. RELIANT i Go cowboys in the. Cellar next, UP Nfc. North i'm keeping it the. SAME i think The bears eke into the. PLAYOFFS i Think Jordan LOVE i. LIKE i think they're worried about. Him that's WHY i went a receiver in the first. Round they're not quite sure they can Trust Christian watson's. Help they gotta make This Jordan love thing. Work so they had a couple of other needs, defensively and they went wide receiver. Again vikings will be a very good fourth place. TEAM i think Letting Sam darnold GO i think they may regret. It all, RIGHT i have another. Change i'm gonna Move tampa from second to first to win their. DIVISION i like their. DRAFT i always liked their. DRAFTS i did not like The Atlanta falcons. Draft AND i don't know What Michael pennix. Is by the, WAY i Thought ameca At buka to that receiving corps and that. Offense he will be an eighty catch guy potentially as a. ROOKIE i think he EVERY GM i talked to WHEN i, said did anybody reach for A, Mecca they're, like, no that guy could have been the fifth, pick and it's a smart. Pick he will. Deliver Get day, One Bryce young's Improved, Saints they're done and, finally, yeah you can see. IT i think The rams are gonna win. IT i Think seattle's. DEFENSE i Thought seattle had the best draft in THE. NFL i Thought arizona And cleveland had the second best. Draft arizona's defense is going to be a. Handful their offense is. Fine As Marvin harrison And Kyler murray now go to a second year, together that. MATTERS i don't like WHAT i see with The. NINERS i did not like their draft at. ALL i think when you look at The niners, DRAFT i See Kyle shannon hand taking some reaches here to help him and not the future he wants to win. NOW i didn't like The niners draft at. All i'm not saying they're a five win, team BUT i Think arizona can win ten to eleven. Games so my playoff picture in THE Nfc, Eagles, Lions, Bucks Rams, Commanders, Bears, Seahawks, wow.

Rich when there's coaching changes and free agency's, DONE i give AN nfl. Prediction then after the, draft yes drafts, MATTER i make another. Prediction then after camp or during, Camps i'll make a, prediction and then right before the, season The thursday of the, SEASON i make my final. Prediction So i've got a lot of, changes but most at the bottom of. Divisions so let's start THE, afc so the. EASIEST i would bet my car on this. One bill's win it dominant, quarterback not, close and well. Coached. Patriots i've said, this they will be The washington of THE. NFL i Predicted washington And denver would be the most improved Teams i'm predicting The patriots will be the most improved. Team drake may actually has a coach and they've made major. Upgrades oh and d. Line dolphins aren't. Good they're going, backwards But i'll take them over The, jets WHERE i don't like anything all. Right next up THE Afc. North even If Aaron rodgers shows, up they're not beating The ravens Or. Bengals, BROWNS i think are looking for a Quarterback Arch manning in next year's. DRAFT i like THEIR, Gm Andrew berry And Kevin stefanski don't like. OWNERSHIP i feel pretty good about THIS Afc. South i'm gonna make a. CHANGE i think The texans win it going, away and The titans are a wild card. TEAM i will take The jaguars third and all move The colts down to. FOURTH i don't know who's playing quarterback for The. Colts my guess Is Daniel jones wins. Eventually but The, jaguars to their town, credit got the best player in the draft In Travis. Hunter he will make an. Impact they upgraded their offensive line, significantly so again it's not, much But i'll take The jaguars third and The colts fourth and in THE Afc, WEST i feel the same. Way it's, inches not. FEET i think The chargers embodied empowered their run, game and they're going to be a ball control offense with two great, tackles a great, coach a great, quarterback and two excellent running. Backs they also upgraded a tight. END i think they're going to be not as much sizzle as you may, want but they're just going to ground. Teams it'll be Classic Jim harbaugh year. Two you will be looking at a team that is completely different than they were two years. Ago shes still win ten to, eleven maybe, twelve but they've been a Second broncos And. Raiders didn't love The broncos. Draft so MY afc playoff Predictions Bill's, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, Patriots bengals are new in. Chiefs we go to THE nfc, now WHERE i do have more. Changes Eagles commander's going. Away i'm gonna put The giants at third and The cowboys at. FOUR i thought The giants actually got impact guys in the. DRAFT i Thought skataboo the running, back will absolutely make an, impact And Abdull carter hate that he's asking For Lawrence taylor's. Jersey but he's gonna be an impact. Guy they've already got a good d. Line it'll be even. Better cowboys Hiring Brian schottenneimer big, Mistake barry Dak. RELIANT i Go cowboys in the. Cellar next, UP Nfc. North i'm keeping it the. SAME i think The bears eke into the. PLAYOFFS i Think Jordan LOVE i. LIKE i think they're worried about. Him that's WHY i went a receiver in the first. Round they're not quite sure they can Trust Christian watson's. Help they gotta make This Jordan love thing. Work so they had a couple of other needs, defensively and they went wide receiver. Again vikings will be a very good fourth place. TEAM i think Letting Sam darnold GO i think they may regret. It all, RIGHT i have another. Change i'm gonna Move tampa from second to first to win their. DIVISION i like their. DRAFT i always liked their. DRAFTS i did not like The Atlanta falcons. Draft AND i don't know What Michael pennix. Is by the, WAY i Thought ameca At buka to that receiving corps and that. Offense he will be an eighty catch guy potentially as a. ROOKIE i think he EVERY GM i talked to WHEN i, said did anybody reach for A, Mecca they're, like, no that guy could have been the fifth, pick and it's a smart. Pick he will. Deliver Get day, One Bryce young's Improved, Saints they're done and, finally, yeah you can see. IT i think The rams are gonna win. IT i Think seattle's. DEFENSE i Thought seattle had the best draft in THE. NFL i Thought arizona And cleveland had the second best. Draft arizona's defense is going to be a. Handful their offense is. Fine As Marvin harrison And Kyler murray now go to a second year, together that. MATTERS i don't like WHAT i see with The. NINERS i did not like their draft at. ALL i think when you look at The niners, DRAFT i See Kyle shannon hand taking some reaches here to help him and not the future he wants to win. NOW i didn't like The niners draft at. All i'm not saying they're a five win, team BUT i Think arizona can win ten to eleven. Games so my playoff picture in THE Nfc, Eagles, Lions, Bucks Rams, Commanders, Bears, Seahawks, wow.

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Pacific one of our, Guys Dan, woiki covers The lakers went to every single game this. Year and by the, way these days in the media that doesn't know what's, happened you got television broadcasters not even going to the same. Game, AnyWho that's a different. Topic, Okay, Dan you've got a lot of stuff to talk. About let's start with the it's a little bit of the elephant in the, room THE Jj reddick. Stuff SO i was SAYING i had Heard Bamani jones And Nick wright brought this. UP i thought it was a fascinating. Take is that a lot of people who are anxious they bring it up on. Themselves it's not external. FORCES jj got very tight in his biggest game as a college, player as AN nba, player very good. PLAYER i think he was the eleventh pick Of orlando out of the. Draft but he was a different player in the. Playoffs he not a lot of big, shots was less of a. Player and then you watch them with The lakers and he runs tight and he gets, snippy AND i thought to, him and they theorize is, like this is not just a comfortable college basketball. Job it's eighty two, games IT'S, nba it's The, lakers it's a big market media and let's just talk ABOUT Jj reddick's. Personality is it a little bit of a?

Pacific one of our, Guys Dan, woiki covers The lakers went to every single game this. Year and by the, way these days in the media that doesn't know what's, happened you got television broadcasters not even going to the same. Game, AnyWho that's a different. Topic, Okay, Dan you've got a lot of stuff to talk. About let's start with the it's a little bit of the elephant in the, room THE Jj reddick. Stuff SO i was SAYING i had Heard Bamani jones And Nick wright brought this. UP i thought it was a fascinating. Take is that a lot of people who are anxious they bring it up on. Themselves it's not external. FORCES jj got very tight in his biggest game as a college, player as AN nba, player very good. PLAYER i think he was the eleventh pick Of orlando out of the. Draft but he was a different player in the. Playoffs he not a lot of big, shots was less of a. Player and then you watch them with The lakers and he runs tight and he gets, snippy AND i thought to, him and they theorize is, like this is not just a comfortable college basketball. Job it's eighty two, games IT'S, nba it's The, lakers it's a big market media and let's just talk ABOUT Jj reddick's. Personality is it a little bit of a?

CONCERN i think maybe a little. Bit it, is, though kind of one of those Things colin where like if you're at a job interview and somebody asks, you, like what's your biggest, weakness and it's, LIKE i care too. Much it's like you're also it's also kind of flexing how much you, care, Right AND i think there are certainly worse things that you can say about somebody other than they're too, intense they care too, much they're too passionate about what they're, doing they put too much into. It AND i do think WITH jj there is an element of, this, right like this is and it's funny because this was the type that The lakers were sort of. Chasing the other, name, right the other person who got off of the. Job one other person got off of the job Is Dan. Early and if we talk about being wound tight and stuff like.

CONCERN i think maybe a little. Bit it, is, though kind of one of those Things colin where like if you're at a job interview and somebody asks, you, like what's your biggest, weakness and it's, LIKE i care too. Much it's like you're also it's also kind of flexing how much you, care, Right AND i think there are certainly worse things that you can say about somebody other than they're too, intense they care too, much they're too passionate about what they're, doing they put too much into. It AND i do think WITH jj there is an element of, this, right like this is and it's funny because this was the type that The lakers were sort of. Chasing the other, name, right the other person who got off of the. Job one other person got off of the job Is Dan. Early and if we talk about being wound tight and stuff like.

That we're clearly looking for.

That we're clearly looking for.

That for that level of, intensity, right that level of.

That for that level of, intensity, right that level of.

Passion in THE, nba there's always been this theory you're either a scheme, guy or you're Like Joe torrey and baseball Now Steve kurr is both spolsters, both or you're a good in the room. Guy now, now young coaches tend to be really good with the.

Passion in THE, nba there's always been this theory you're either a scheme, guy or you're Like Joe torrey and baseball Now Steve kurr is both spolsters, both or you're a good in the room. Guy now, now young coaches tend to be really good with the.

PLAYERS jj had a really good year with, players that's.

PLAYERS jj had a really good year with, players that's.

Right is he a good scheme?

Right is he a good scheme?

GUY i think. SO i, MEAN i think like it. Is you, know, look he made a really showy, decision, right and their staff made a really showy decision to play the same five players for twenty four straight minutes and then they ran out of gas at the end of the fourth. Quarter he defended that. DECISION i disagree with the defense of the. Decision like tired players do miss, layups tired players do turn the ball. Over but they were tired in game one when they played seven, guys they were. Tired In game, two they were, Tired colin because they had to play small so. Much that's why they were. Tired, yeah, Right, like And minnesota's really really, big and they're really, dynamic and they're really, athletic and it was a horrible matchup and that's why The lakers were. TIRED i do think that the best THING i can say ABOUT jj redicks, season having seen, it as you, mentioned you know, what with ninety three. Games i've known him a very long, time is, that, UH Jj redick's coaching philosophy on day one was different than his coaching philosophy on game. Five, yeah the west of the first round. Plaffs and that doesn't mean he was soft on. CONVICTIONS i think you could anybody who's SEEN jj rek talk is that he's not soft on. CONVICTIONS i think his primary conviction WAS i need to coach to my, team AND i need to coach to the strengths and the weaknesses of my. Team and that's that is my. Philosophy so when he Had Anthony davis And Lebron, james that meant shooting twenty three is a. Game cool they shot twenty three is a game that, man when they Had lukadacic they shot. Fifty it is there's a flexibility there and that would give. ME i think the most confidence moving forwards is that he's gonna do To boloni And nick's, point he is very hard on. Himself his pressure does come from, within like he wants to win as badly as Anybody i've ever, met and he hasn't, won spent a long time since he's won a. Championship, yeah you know he's gonna Do he's gonna do everything to put himself in a position to be. Better AND i think that's. Good now when the moment comes, again you, know is he GONNA i, mean that's part of that's part of you, know who he.

GUY i think. SO i, MEAN i think like it. Is you, know, look he made a really showy, decision, right and their staff made a really showy decision to play the same five players for twenty four straight minutes and then they ran out of gas at the end of the fourth. Quarter he defended that. DECISION i disagree with the defense of the. Decision like tired players do miss, layups tired players do turn the ball. Over but they were tired in game one when they played seven, guys they were. Tired In game, two they were, Tired colin because they had to play small so. Much that's why they were. Tired, yeah, Right, like And minnesota's really really, big and they're really, dynamic and they're really, athletic and it was a horrible matchup and that's why The lakers were. TIRED i do think that the best THING i can say ABOUT jj redicks, season having seen, it as you, mentioned you know, what with ninety three. Games i've known him a very long, time is, that, UH Jj redick's coaching philosophy on day one was different than his coaching philosophy on game. Five, yeah the west of the first round. Plaffs and that doesn't mean he was soft on. CONVICTIONS i think you could anybody who's SEEN jj rek talk is that he's not soft on. CONVICTIONS i think his primary conviction WAS i need to coach to my, team AND i need to coach to the strengths and the weaknesses of my. Team and that's that is my. Philosophy so when he Had Anthony davis And Lebron, james that meant shooting twenty three is a. Game cool they shot twenty three is a game that, man when they Had lukadacic they shot. Fifty it is there's a flexibility there and that would give. ME i think the most confidence moving forwards is that he's gonna do To boloni And nick's, point he is very hard on. Himself his pressure does come from, within like he wants to win as badly as Anybody i've ever, met and he hasn't, won spent a long time since he's won a. Championship, yeah you know he's gonna Do he's gonna do everything to put himself in a position to be. Better AND i think that's. Good now when the moment comes, again you, know is he GONNA i, mean that's part of that's part of you, know who he.

Is part. Of it reminded me Of Brandon staley with The. Chargers i'm, like when you start attacking the pretty NICE la, Media this Isn't, Philly, Boston this isn't you, Know, CHICAGO la media is pretty.

Is part. Of it reminded me Of Brandon staley with The. Chargers i'm, like when you start attacking the pretty NICE la, Media this Isn't, Philly, Boston this isn't you, Know, CHICAGO la media is pretty.

Fair, Yeah AND i, mean, look we did you, Know i'd, say you, know As i'm counting it out in my, head if it's you, know six preseason, games eighty two regular season, games five playoff, games ninety. Three, yeah we talked to him pre and post ninety three. Times there were a couple of clips that that went. Viral you, KNOW i think, AGAIN i prefer in these situations a coach who will listen to what we, ask who will answer the questions that we. Ask he told me at times this year he THOUGHT i was grasping at. Things, fine let's have. It we'll have a conversation about. It AND i think like that part of it to me more. SIGNALED i think the more REVEALING. J. J ritick press conference moment for me was before game one of the first round the playoffs went. Again he had had a week to think about a, game and he looked it and he acted it in a way where he Was so they. Scrimmage, yeah you, know they were just. Two they were just they wanted it too, much or at least as a coaching, staff and like that wasn't the Right it wasn't the right. Energy minnesota seemed much more, relaxed much more, loose seemed like they had more. Fun, yeah AND i think that showed off in the.

Fair, Yeah AND i, mean, look we did you, Know i'd, say you, know As i'm counting it out in my, head if it's you, know six preseason, games eighty two regular season, games five playoff, games ninety. Three, yeah we talked to him pre and post ninety three. Times there were a couple of clips that that went. Viral you, KNOW i think, AGAIN i prefer in these situations a coach who will listen to what we, ask who will answer the questions that we. Ask he told me at times this year he THOUGHT i was grasping at. Things, fine let's have. It we'll have a conversation about. It AND i think like that part of it to me more. SIGNALED i think the more REVEALING. J. J ritick press conference moment for me was before game one of the first round the playoffs went. Again he had had a week to think about a, game and he looked it and he acted it in a way where he Was so they. Scrimmage, yeah you, know they were just. Two they were just they wanted it too, much or at least as a coaching, staff and like that wasn't the Right it wasn't the right. Energy minnesota seemed much more, relaxed much more, loose seemed like they had more. Fun, yeah AND i think that showed off in the.

Court, Okay i've been saying this for. YEARS i understand When america likes the. UNDERDOG i. Don't i'm A, Yankee, Dodger Ohio. State you sound Like.

Court, Okay i've been saying this for. YEARS i understand When america likes the. UNDERDOG i. Don't i'm A, Yankee, Dodger Ohio. State you sound Like.

Lebron i'm. Not this is The, lebron this is The lebron fandom.

Lebron i'm. Not this is The, lebron this is The lebron fandom.

List, Yeah i'm not an underdog. Fan you can DRAFT tcu, players all Draft texas. GUYS i don't. Care and So Brock purty everybody roots for, him it gets rainy and he can't hold the. Ball If Austin reeves is, undrafted there's a REASON i Like Austin. Reeves they don't have a Big if he's a, three you're not winning the. Championship if he's a, FOUR i don't think he's nearly as good As Derek. White but if he is a, four you could maybe get to the. Finals Because i'm looking At Michael porter's a four with Us brook playing, well he is he a five For? Denver their fifth best? Player what is? This what is? This are they going to Move Austin? Reeves and how do they view him in?

List, Yeah i'm not an underdog. Fan you can DRAFT tcu, players all Draft texas. GUYS i don't. Care and So Brock purty everybody roots for, him it gets rainy and he can't hold the. Ball If Austin reeves is, undrafted there's a REASON i Like Austin. Reeves they don't have a Big if he's a, three you're not winning the. Championship if he's a, FOUR i don't think he's nearly as good As Derek. White but if he is a, four you could maybe get to the. Finals Because i'm looking At Michael porter's a four with Us brook playing, well he is he a five For? Denver their fifth best? Player what is? This what is? This are they going to Move Austin? Reeves and how do they view him in?

HOUSE i don't think they're going to move. HIM i don't think there is A.

HOUSE i don't think they're going to move. HIM i don't think there is A.

He was awful against the T.

He was awful against the T.

Wolves he Was he had a bad series and by the way they kept throwing athletes at. Him a bad, series but still. COLD i, mean LIKE i, mean bad series to the eye, test more so than the. Numbers certainly couldn't get to the, lawn you. KNOW i think in some of that like this sounds like an, excuse and it is what it. Is if you're on the, court you're on the. Court he was playing through a pretty severe foot, injury pretty severe toe injury in games four and. FIVE i think the thing With austin there's a couple of. Things, one this is a guy who every time they've a challenge has been kind of issued to, Him he's answered to. It he's answered it right from being undrafted to Being can he be a rotation player to being a? Starter can he?

Wolves he Was he had a bad series and by the way they kept throwing athletes at. Him a bad, series but still. COLD i, mean LIKE i, mean bad series to the eye, test more so than the. Numbers certainly couldn't get to the, lawn you. KNOW i think in some of that like this sounds like an, excuse and it is what it. Is if you're on the, court you're on the. Court he was playing through a pretty severe foot, injury pretty severe toe injury in games four and. FIVE i think the thing With austin there's a couple of. Things, one this is a guy who every time they've a challenge has been kind of issued to, Him he's answered to. It he's answered it right from being undrafted to Being can he be a rotation player to being a? Starter can he?

Be can you play With?

Be can you play With?

Luca can he play With? Luca can he be you, know at times the second best offensive player on this? Team, yeah you, KNOW i think at the contract he's at, certainly the relationship he has within the organization with with people in the, organization the relationship he has with his in the locker room as sort of like the bridge between the lebron tier in the locker room and, say like the bottom tier of the locker. Room like he's the glue of all of, this, right he is the guy that everybody can talk to and he's a problem. Solver and they believe in. Him they really believe in. Him they think this was a bad.

Luca can he play With? Luca can he be you, know at times the second best offensive player on this? Team, yeah you, KNOW i think at the contract he's at, certainly the relationship he has within the organization with with people in the, organization the relationship he has with his in the locker room as sort of like the bridge between the lebron tier in the locker room and, say like the bottom tier of the locker. Room like he's the glue of all of, this, right he is the guy that everybody can talk to and he's a problem. Solver and they believe in. Him they really believe in. Him they think this was a bad.

Series they want an all star back HE'S.

Series they want an all star back HE'S.

I, mean, yeah like this is like tippy. TOP i, mean this is A they view him as an all star level player who makes fifteen million dollars so at at the early stages of his.

I, mean, yeah like this is like tippy. TOP i, mean this is A they view him as an all star level player who makes fifteen million dollars so at at the early stages of his.

Prime, now BECAUSE i don't think you can run this team back Lebron, Is hitt and Miss they need a.

Prime, now BECAUSE i don't think you can run this team back Lebron, Is hitt and Miss they need a.

Center there's no doubt about. It and there's no doubt about.

Center there's no doubt about. It and there's no doubt about.

It J reddick doesn't Play Jackson. Hayes he's telling the front, office get me a.

It J reddick doesn't Play Jackson. Hayes he's telling the front, office get me a.

Legitimitch so if, there if there was a, Center colin that was like a, big big time needle, mover not just like he's a good center because we Need that's not A, bigford not a big TIME i, mean they're good, players and they're players that would fit what The lakers are. Doing they're not players that The lakers would part With Austin reeves For Ney. Claxton they, Would, NO i don't. Believe so, okay here's another.

Legitimitch so if, there if there was a, Center colin that was like a, big big time needle, mover not just like he's a good center because we Need that's not A, bigford not a big TIME i, mean they're good, players and they're players that would fit what The lakers are. Doing they're not players that The lakers would part With Austin reeves For Ney. Claxton they, Would, NO i don't. Believe so, okay here's another.

One there are certain things where people don't change like you can. Get you can get, like for, instance you could tell, somebody, hey if you don't stop, smoking you're going to die, yep and they will stop. Smoking or you need to lose weight you're. Unhealthy Uh and in your, appearance do.

One there are certain things where people don't change like you can. Get you can get, like for, instance you could tell, somebody, hey if you don't stop, smoking you're going to die, yep and they will stop. Smoking or you need to lose weight you're. Unhealthy Uh and in your, appearance do.

You have my medical files back? Then it seems like you might this is just somebody violate.

You have my medical files back? Then it seems like you might this is just somebody violate.

Hippa, okay there are other things that people are what they, are And i'll give you an. Example work. Ethic you either grind or you. Don't if you're if you're, awaken big, guy or you've always been party guy on. CAMPUS i love, you but that's who you. Are sure it gets to full all the guys that were party guys in, college they're kind of they are what they.

Hippa, okay there are other things that people are what they, are And i'll give you an. Example work. Ethic you either grind or you. Don't if you're if you're, awaken big, guy or you've always been party guy on. CAMPUS i love, you but that's who you. Are sure it gets to full all the guys that were party guys in, college they're kind of they are what they.

Are.

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Ye so, Defense James harden has never cared about, It Carmelo anthony never cared about, it And luca doesn't care about. It Now jokic has made an. Improvement he's never going to be great.

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DEFENSE i have two there's another name in, mind so Je.

Knock is if you're having these meetings With luca and you're, like, listen we need you to be. Blank, defensively this is what he. Is. Now he can be a better version of. This but how many years DO i have to see teams attack him before we just acknowledge he's been playing basketball for eighteen years this is what he is.

Knock is if you're having these meetings With luca and you're, like, listen we need you to be. Blank, defensively this is what he. Is. Now he can be a better version of. This but how many years DO i have to see teams attack him before we just acknowledge he's been playing basketball for eighteen years this is what he is.

Defensively, YEAH i think the frustrating part With Luka doncers' defense is that in flashes like you see you know the six foot seven guy us his body, well position it, well move his, feet get into get into the spots that he's use his brain right to be an active. Defender you see it at. Times you saw it for lightning bolt flats in this series when the stakes were. Highest it wasn't consistent. Enough The lakers know. It luca do just knows. That The Dallas mavericks knew. It Nuko harrison knew, It the league. Knows the league. Knows this is why you detacked. It this is the. Biggest one of the biggest differences between last year's playoffs versus this year's payoffs when it came To minnesota was that they went At Luka dotcic harder this. Year they put him in that, position and quite, frankly the way you need to do it is that you need to build the right kind of team defense around him and you can get away with.

Defensively, YEAH i think the frustrating part With Luka doncers' defense is that in flashes like you see you know the six foot seven guy us his body, well position it, well move his, feet get into get into the spots that he's use his brain right to be an active. Defender you see it at. Times you saw it for lightning bolt flats in this series when the stakes were. Highest it wasn't consistent. Enough The lakers know. It luca do just knows. That The Dallas mavericks knew. It Nuko harrison knew, It the league. Knows the league. Knows this is why you detacked. It this is the. Biggest one of the biggest differences between last year's playoffs versus this year's payoffs when it came To minnesota was that they went At Luka dotcic harder this. Year they put him in that, position and quite, frankly the way you need to do it is that you need to build the right kind of team defense around him and you can get away with.

It dallas gave you the. Roadmap so that's. Yeah kyrie And luca were, together they started tanking to get and then the next year in the trade, deadline they went and got. Big you, have so The lakers liability is the opposite of what works With. Luca you need rim protect.

It dallas gave you the. Roadmap so that's. Yeah kyrie And luca were, together they started tanking to get and then the next year in the trade, deadline they went and got. Big you, have so The lakers liability is the opposite of what works With. Luca you need rim protect.

Yeah, colin AND i think you know that that sort of you, Know hollywood summit or meeting or whatever you want to call it Between luca And Rob LINCOLN Jj, redick it was not all this, stuff. Right it was the trade, happens, right and it is about Getting Luca dodgic as comfortable as, possible as fast as, possible after having, like you, know his entire professional like world just like kind of ripped, down right, like because that's what this. Was he didn't expect to be. Traded he was going to finish his career In, dallas and then all of a, sudden he's not, Right he's somewhere totally, new really playing for the third team in his life as a as a since he was. Fifteen this is the third different team he's ever played. For SO i think the season was about getting him as a justin as comfortables possible and trying to maximize a roster that quite frankly wasn't built for, him, Right and he's the kind of player who when given a roster built for. Him we saw what happened last year In, dallas AND i, think you, know my understanding is what that meeting was was not JUST jj And robb telling him put down the bread, basket, like you, know we're gonna go keto this. Summer that's not what it. Was it was What let's talk basketball. Now now we can get into the part of. This you're, here we think you're going to be here a long. Time how do we make you the best version of? Yourself what can we do to maximize your? Skills what kind of players do you want to see around. You let's get to. Work i'm building this thing out and we've talked about. It you, know they need more length and athleticism on the, wings more two way, players they need more. Size easier said than. Done most teams want those. Things they don't have a ton of assets to get. It but you, KNOW i think there is a belief at least you, know from The dodgers camp in sort of what A Lebron Luca austin reeves core can, DO i, think and then building around.

Yeah, colin AND i think you know that that sort of you, Know hollywood summit or meeting or whatever you want to call it Between luca And Rob LINCOLN Jj, redick it was not all this, stuff. Right it was the trade, happens, right and it is about Getting Luca dodgic as comfortable as, possible as fast as, possible after having, like you, know his entire professional like world just like kind of ripped, down right, like because that's what this. Was he didn't expect to be. Traded he was going to finish his career In, dallas and then all of a, sudden he's not, Right he's somewhere totally, new really playing for the third team in his life as a as a since he was. Fifteen this is the third different team he's ever played. For SO i think the season was about getting him as a justin as comfortables possible and trying to maximize a roster that quite frankly wasn't built for, him, Right and he's the kind of player who when given a roster built for. Him we saw what happened last year In, dallas AND i, think you, know my understanding is what that meeting was was not JUST jj And robb telling him put down the bread, basket, like you, know we're gonna go keto this. Summer that's not what it. Was it was What let's talk basketball. Now now we can get into the part of. This you're, here we think you're going to be here a long. Time how do we make you the best version of? Yourself what can we do to maximize your? Skills what kind of players do you want to see around. You let's get to. Work i'm building this thing out and we've talked about. It you, know they need more length and athleticism on the, wings more two way, players they need more. Size easier said than. Done most teams want those. Things they don't have a ton of assets to get. It but you, KNOW i think there is a belief at least you, know from The dodgers camp in sort of what A Lebron Luca austin reeves core can, DO i, think and then building around.

It AND i think you got to move Off austin if you want to get a legit. Big that's an uncomfortable, conversation it.

It AND i think you got to move Off austin if you want to get a legit. Big that's an uncomfortable, conversation it.

IS i just think that like by the, Way.

IS i just think that like by the, Way.

Okay sees younger and, Better cleveland's younger and better indies, younger AND i think. Better boston's. Better at some point you just got to, say, guys we won The luca trade by a, mile we could lose a.

Okay sees younger and, Better cleveland's younger and better indies, younger AND i think. Better boston's. Better at some point you just got to, say, guys we won The luca trade by a, mile we could lose a.

LITTLE i just think that's The the question to me is just still, again is like where the big is and who the big? Is AND i think Like gafford For Austin, REEVES i think they can get gaffered Without Austin, reeves. RIGHT i mean that's honestly they Have, ay they have a first round. Pick you, know they have a a player In dalton connect that that has some. VALUE i think that can kind of get you there on the starting. POINT i think you, know you have your, swaps you can be more, creative you have like you have in a roster building, thing, Right and it's it'll be interesting how different the team is. Too you, know we don't know What lebron's long term future. IS i mean we do it's retirement. Eventually but but you, know when you have a player you can count on around fifteen million dollars and you've got your your your megamax, guy you have more flexibility that it might. Appear AND i Think i'm curious to see what The lakers do with their expiring. Money they have some expiring, contracts they have a first round pick they can, trade they can get a little creative in. That AND i, think you, know they felt one of the other. Things and it's funny how much five games and four losses can change. Things but you, know going into this, Playoffs, colin, Like i've bet around teams that have said they think they can win championships and we all know they. Couldn't This lakers team had that, belief like they really had that, belief but like an authentic, belief like a truly authentic.

LITTLE i just think that's The the question to me is just still, again is like where the big is and who the big? Is AND i think Like gafford For Austin, REEVES i think they can get gaffered Without Austin, reeves. RIGHT i mean that's honestly they Have, ay they have a first round. Pick you, know they have a a player In dalton connect that that has some. VALUE i think that can kind of get you there on the starting. POINT i think you, know you have your, swaps you can be more, creative you have like you have in a roster building, thing, Right and it's it'll be interesting how different the team is. Too you, know we don't know What lebron's long term future. IS i mean we do it's retirement. Eventually but but you, know when you have a player you can count on around fifteen million dollars and you've got your your your megamax, guy you have more flexibility that it might. Appear AND i Think i'm curious to see what The lakers do with their expiring. Money they have some expiring, contracts they have a first round pick they can, trade they can get a little creative in. That AND i, think you, know they felt one of the other. Things and it's funny how much five games and four losses can change. Things but you, know going into this, Playoffs, colin, Like i've bet around teams that have said they think they can win championships and we all know they. Couldn't This lakers team had that, belief like they really had that, belief but like an authentic, belief like a truly authentic.

Belief YOU i think you can authentically believe a. Lot that doesn't make it.

Belief YOU i think you can authentically believe a. Lot that doesn't make it.

True, Sure AND i THINK i think when they will approach this, offseason they need to do so With this is the hard part about team building in THE. Nba you don't want to be. Reacting you don't want to be too reactionary to what just. Happened but you have to look at yourself in the mirror and know where you're.

True, Sure AND i THINK i think when they will approach this, offseason they need to do so With this is the hard part about team building in THE. Nba you don't want to be. Reacting you don't want to be too reactionary to what just. Happened but you have to look at yourself in the mirror and know where you're.

Soft, yeah and they. Don't rams are really good at looking at themselves and asking hard. Questions i'm not sure The lakers.

Soft, yeah and they. Don't rams are really good at looking at themselves and asking hard. Questions i'm not sure The lakers.

ARE i, mean The lakers lost the first round series three years, ago three years, ago three or four years ago to The Phoenix. Suns, right, yes, right and decided that the best course of action was to trade FOR Us. Westbrook that was an, overreaction it was an. Overcome it was an overreaction to what had happened this season. Before they thought they needed more, punch they needed another ball, handler they needed all these. Things they needed to make a big, change that big. Change step back to the organization multiple years and they were given away.

ARE i, mean The lakers lost the first round series three years, ago three years, ago three or four years ago to The Phoenix. Suns, right, yes, right and decided that the best course of action was to trade FOR Us. Westbrook that was an, overreaction it was an. Overcome it was an overreaction to what had happened this season. Before they thought they needed more, punch they needed another ball, handler they needed all these. Things they needed to make a big, change that big. Change step back to the organization multiple years and they were given away.

Out but you're what you're largely saying is and this is. True The lakers have always been at their best taking huge.

Out but you're what you're largely saying is and this is. True The lakers have always been at their best taking huge.

Swings they get they get the big, stuff, Right, yeah if they got to get the small, stuff we'll want to Move Austin.

Swings they get they get the big, stuff, Right, yeah if they got to get the small, stuff we'll want to Move Austin.

Reeves you're not taking a. Swing Oklahoma city will be marketedly Like. Cleveland they'll be better next. Year you're not going. Backwards, sure and.

Reeves you're not taking a. Swing Oklahoma city will be marketedly Like. Cleveland they'll be better next. Year you're not going. Backwards, sure and.

San antonio is gonna San antonio is. Coming everybody knows that's gonna.

San antonio is gonna San antonio is. Coming everybody knows that's gonna.

Happen think about. It we're gonna Keep, austin but we're gonna Find, okay you need.

Happen think about. It we're gonna Keep, austin but we're gonna Find, okay you need.

You have to believe In. Luca you have to believe in like you have to believe In Luca lukadot and you have to believe In Austin.

You have to believe In. Luca you have to believe in like you have to believe In Luca lukadot and you have to believe In Austin.

Reeves lebron's not getting. Younger Sure luca will never be a great. Defender And austin is undrafted, good but he's. Undrafted he was physically.

Reeves lebron's not getting. Younger Sure luca will never be a great. Defender And austin is undrafted, good but he's. Undrafted he was physically.

Worked, YEAH i think this Is and WHEN. J. J reddick says things like we need to be in championship, condition, well like he's not just talking About, lukadatch it like it is a more of a roster wide thing where they need to. Be they need to be in a better. Position Should should they have to play that style again for the amount of time that they. Did, now perfect, world you don't have to play that. Style you get the big you get the right guy in. THERE i think you keep your card. Together lakers are becoming and that's the. Plan and that's the.