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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher on Fox Sports Radio.

It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio, and it's two pros and a cup of Joe Filly in for Colin, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We are going to take you all the way up until three o'clock Eastern time. That'll be noon Pacific time. And Brady Quinn, we are rocking and rolling here on a Tuesday. Yeah we are, Yeah, Phil, Phil, very patriotic today.

Are you?

Yeah?

A little fired up President's Day weekend coming off some I don't know something about the four Nations hockey thing.

Then it kind of got me going.

It's not just the fights either, just a lot of pride, a lot of pride for this great country you're living now.

I noticed you mentioned that before you mentioned any of the other festivities that took place this weekend. Were you not a took place this weekend? Well, I think there was. Valentine's Day was Friday.

Of course. I went to a Monster Jam event. That was fun.

I got to go see you know, my son and I we have our favorite monster truck.

This question, it was fun.

Is that more of something that you got him into or did he get into that?

I got him in his Easter basket or his Christmas stocking, either Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny got him a monster truck just randomly, and he just was hooked ever since.

And it's fun. It's a fun event.

But but I mean there was that, and there was trying to think what else there was going on this weekend? The All Star Game festivities in the NBA, Yes, right, there was there was that.

And.

Yeah, I don't know, man, I mean Kevin Durance, you know, looking at the situation going well, hey, listen, you know, people just like to criticize. It's more fun to criticize, uh, the NBA and the All Star Game on social media. That is than it is too uh good high there, than it is too uh.

Jesus, than it is that too just coming home. Uh where'd you park? To Loco Jez going out to a ticket later? It was a very no, no, it is a very interesting morning though, I'll tell you. Yeah, twenty six mile drive an hour and twenty minutes. That's pretty standard though for LA, isn't it. I mean that's a first for me, that's the first. I'm the worst I've ever seen with no accident. Yeah, that's that's that was interesting. Yes, yesterday was only forty minutes to get in here, but I guess it's because it was it was a holiday. But yeah, anyways, I mean, which would be a more interesting conversation than obviously the one that we're having right now. I listen, Kevin Durant is a great personality. He is one of the guys and one of the players that drives the drives the needle, keeps them relevant in some aspects, in some regards. But I mean, you can't be sensitive about the criticisms that are being levied their way and how I guess relentless and how aggressive the conversations of how bad some of these things have been, especially you know, surrounding the conversation of All Star Weekend. I mean, it's just is what it is, you know, and again that's just the reality of it is, is that you don't have enough personalities like Kevin Durantz in today's NBA that are building relations You ever think about that, Like I was looking at our comments yesterday, and it's like the whole idea of what relationships are being built between player and fan? Who is who is really what teams are really building these strong bonds like we used to see in the olden days of the NBA when when who was who was the the commissioner back then passed away Stern Stern. When Stern was the commissioner, there was such a focus on building the reputations, building the personalities of these teams and of these players and connecting them with their fans. There's a disconnect, certainly a disconnect I view.

This entire conversation because we kind of got railroaded there on the NBA, which the Lord knows. I don't want to talk about that as much because I think what what I witnessed was the game of hockey in very in the very similar lights. Well you can't at late, so you missed out on the initial part of conversation. So the Four Nations hockey exhibition, right, Like there doesn't matter for any of the players in regards to the Stanley Cup. Right, We're not to the playoffs yet in hockey, So you can call it whatever you want to call it. It was brilliant by the NHL. It had so much interest. I think the ratings were somewhere over five million or so ended up watching for basically an exhibition game, very similar to what the NBA All Star Game is. And you have, at least in regards to the NBA, one of the greatest ambassadors in the history of the game in Lebron James, who is for the first time ever opts out to play.

Now.

Grantedy he's just dealing with an injury, and he's played forever and he's made every All Star to over two decades, so I guess he's got the right to do that. But what I'm pointing out is the difference in the intensity of both these games, and I think that's the connection with fans. If I'm going to take a piece of my life, if I'm going to go spend my hard earned money and go watch an NBA All Star Game or a hockey game that's an exhibition, like I want to see the intensity that you care at least as much as I do. And granted, you know, I think it's tough to compare when you've got, for example, four nations people representing their country, to compare it to.

The All Star Game.

Even though there's some international players, there's some guys who their representation goes beyond just representing whatever it is in the All Star Game. In the NBA, they're representing people back home, people in other countries. But to me, that's the disconnect is I'm not here to bash the NBA NBA players because I think part of the reason why the game is where the game's at is because these are the most skilled NBA players we've ever seen, and so there's always going to be evolution in a game when it's like that. But what I saw in hockey, and maybe it's just the culture of hockey because they both play the same amount of regular season games, and I'd make the case that the Stanley Cup playoffs is much more enduring because it's more of a physical sport anyway, and it's a longer road anyway to a championship than the NBA is. So like, what's hard to watch is this load management era of athletes, and this this thought that like, yeah, it's okay to sit out and take up a roster spot and not play because I've done this so much and I'm one of the greatest of all time. And then meanwhile, you've got dudes who are dropping gloves as soon as the puck drops because they're ticked off. And look, I don't care if it was planned or not, because they're ticked off about the Canadian fans. We're booming and we're gonna show them something. We're gonna set this thing off, right, And that's how intense this game, this game is gonna be, even though it's just an exhibition. For me, like that won me over, Like I really don't have a dog in the fight one way or another. I'm just a fan, right, you know, didn't didn't play at either those levels at a high level. I do have a family member who plays in the NHL, But you know, I don't necessarily say like I'd rather watch one versus the other. But for me, that moment, that was a moment where I looked at hockey and said, yeah, I think you just won over a lot of fans. And I know not everyone tuned in, but you see the viral clips and then you see the win and everything else, and it gives you chills.

Man.

It makes you think about you know, different movies they've made in the past, and you know, I just I kind of sit back and go. That's the disconnect is the NBA thinks because they're so great, they're so skilled that people are gonna want to watch, you're missing the point. You're missing the intensity of the game.

That's what we love, man. We love the passion.

We love the intensity. Yes, when it was more physical and guys got in fights, we love that too, because we've naturally loved fighting.

It's like when you're driving your car. You guys are both driving in right now.

If two people popped out all of a sudden started throwing, you know, fists at one another, you'd stop and watch.

It's it's a human reaction.

You just do.

Maybe. I mean, I was feeling good about sitting in this traffic, so you know i'd have had some time. You know, you're building up a lot of that intensity. Figure, get me someone's then get me a few in as well, you know what I mean. But yeah, you're right, this isn't a exclusive to the NBA. This is the same thing with the Pro Bowl. There's no intensity like you played in it back when you played dudes, you used to get hit, especially towards the end of the game. Yes, like they were still out there trying to win. I was hunting here, That's what sport is. I was hunting hits, especially if there was somebody on the other side of the ball that I didn't get a chance to see during the season. I certainly wanted to fill I remember when Corey Dillon was in the in the Pro Bowl. I wanted to I wanted to get him so bad. That's why I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted to feel what that felt like. You know, everybody was talking about Corey Dillon. Corey Dillon. You know what, He's in the Pro Bowl this year, We're lined up against one another. I was trying to get him, you know that. I think that that's what you're talking about. Though. It's like when when Kobe saw Mike MJ and in the All Star Game, he was trying to get him, and then what happens. MJ seeing that Kobe's trying to get him. So I'm trying to get you, like I'm with you on that. I saw some of the hockey. I ain't see a whole lot of it. I saw some of it. I thought it was pretty cool. Kind of made me feel like it was like the Olympics something to that felt like, yeah, I felt like they were representing something bigger than themselves. It did, It did, and I don't think again. I'll come back to the connection like there is a disconnect in today's athlete, which is it's weird because you have every bit of the technology to connect with the fans in a way that you never have before. And I think that that's why the ones who choose to do it when they do these these podcasts and their player driven podcasts, I think that's why they do so well, is because there is such a disconnect in today's athlete. And I say it's across the board. If you really were to go through, like from fan bases of different eras of time, and you were to say run it, like, tell us who the players are, tell us tell us the team da, da da what they represented, you be able to do it. You be able to do it. That's why you had you had nicknames for the different teams in all the sports. You had nicknames, broad Street bullies, purple people, eaters, steal curtain, the bad boys, you had. You had different because the connection with the fan was so important that everybody was in it together. I don't feel like that's It's like it's you're just watching more of a show. You're watching more of a product now, and they are so skilled that it's like, here we go shooting threes out there, throw the ball. Hockey. I can't really speak on hockey. I don't really I don't really know it like that, but I will say it just seems as though for a lot of times for me, especially because I look at it as a fan as well. Outside of the playoffs, I just think they're playing, you're playing. You're like, you're almost to the point of where you look at and you say, they're going through the motions. They're so good, you're going through the motions. You get to the playoffs, you know that that it's intensified because you go home if you lose. That's it. Like otherwise, I don't know all these players' names, and I am a former football player. I don't know all these guys' names anymore. I don't I don't know what they represent. I don't know what the team represents. I don't know what it is. There's a disconnect. It's like you decentralize the fan base, the fans you don't have, you have your your niche market of fans, but then you go outside of that and everybody's like, I'm root for this guy because he's on my fantasy team. Like I'm root for this guy because I'm I got a parlay and that that dictates who I want to see do well, okay, exactly exactly.

Well, I'll tell you I probably lost that one anyways. But it was also it was also the contrast, you know, first week and we were mentioning this a little bit yesterday, but first weekend without the NFL, and you're looking for something and the NHL gives you the Four Nations face off and they give you that, and the NBA rolls out that, and it's Lebron letting everybody know an hour and a half, I'm with the game. I'm just not just just a bad look, man, a bad look. And you know, hockey benefited from it, you know, whether this you know, is parlayed itself into better ratings for the league and more people take an interest like you probably you probably captured some interest from people who looked at it and said, you know what, maybe I'll give this a try because this is a different product than what I'm getting from the NBA. And so again, they can get all sensitive about it all they want. It's not like people are rooting for it to suck. They just want it to be a little better. And and that's where we are when it comes to uh comes to the NBA. By the way, Thursday night is the final, the four Nations face off final between Canada and the USA. USA is deal with some injuries too, by the way.

You know, you got to get a little nick done. I mean, but you're all stars, right, We all stars. I mean you're representing your representry US. So it's the best of the best US for the US.

But like, yeah, there's obviously they're really good players on Canada. I mean Canada, I think was slated to me. They're the best, aren't they? They're the best that uh we will the US a beating three to one in the most recent.

We're gonna find out Thursday whether the best. Historically speaking, you know, the Canadians played hockey differently than everybody mean by that, man, I don't know. Isn't there another place to like? Doesn't Russia play it pretty well too? Yeah? They get other things going on, right racist, they're using different sticks over there. Soon that's part of the reason why Rush is not in behind was too soon.

Le Lee would not include some of the content and the rundown.

That doesn't I mean, but that doesn't change the fact that they're good at hockey though, right, I mean, we you can admit that. Yeah, okay, got some good players. They're good shooters. They're not in the gas. But again that's uh, you know, teach their own.

It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. It is two pros and a cup of joe In for Colin and company. Here on this Tuesday, we are going to have the Herdline News starring Greg two again. Greg two, he did such a phenomenal job yesterday that people have been pounding the table for him to come back for more. So Greg Two, He's going to be featured in the Headline News throughout the course of the show. And Pete Prisco, good buddy of our show, every single Tuesday morning. He's going to stop by an hour or two, and Pete's going to have to respond to some of the harsh criticism he's gotten from a particular fan base in the NFL. So all that is yours here as again we take you all the way up until three pm Eastern time, noon Pacific. We do, though, have an update. One team in the NFL is going to get really bold, borderline greedy this offseason.

We'll tell you who they are right here n FSRE.

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Hello there, it's The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you and for Colin here on this Tuesday morning.

How you guys feeling, Man, are you feel in an hour or two of this? You sound refreshed. I feel really good talking about you. Sound good too, Jones, sound good. We were just sogging about it. You know, we're kind of on the same timeframe as you right now, that East Coast time. You know, it's interesting, like.

I'm in a fog, buddy, where we're We're like, everyone's just there's just someone's got something. Everyone's getting sick. People are sneezing, coughing on each other. It's just I feel like you're in a battle every day, you know. I'm just s We're just trying to get through that's what.

Yeah. I mean, did you get did the weekend get a little better? I know it was.

I've got like a cold now, so I'm trying to work through that, which I'm pretty much try to do every homeopathic remedy possible.

What are you using, like, like.

Oh, you guys ever take those ginger shots?

Yeah?

Like American orange their orange.

Yes, Yeah, it's really good too.

I don't know if you're supposed to take as many of I'm taken each day, but I'm taking like four or five a days.

Take too many? It's natural, Yeah, that's what That's what I was thinking. Take too many those would be fine. A bunch of.

Vitamins, I mean, probably more vitamin C than anyone's taking their life.

Like, yeah, just trying to just trying to get healthy. That's all good. I mean that's one way to do it, for sure. What's the other way?

Said?

He takes a lot of vitamin D. Yeah, I do, which I don't. I mean, you're still feels happening.

I mean vitamin D.

I'm all about comfort and so you know, I go with what makes me feel comfortable and that. I mean, you could also get on the echo bike. You can get on the echo bike and just kind of sweat that bad boy.

You know.

I go into the stam room when I when I don't feel good, Man, I just try to sweat everything out of the steam room too. That's still ain't working either, it's not working. You can staying there though, how long twenty minutes? Yeah, you gotta go to like forty I stay in that bad boy for like what you yourself? Yeah, you dehydrate that s right on that you'll come out. Look, that's what you're saying. No, no, you don't kill yourself at that at that amount of time. That's like the time to do it. Like get to thirty five forty minutes, I'm telling you. And I wear a sweatsuit on top of that, which socks on my hands and my feet. I mean at one twenty first for everything? You know what you mean? Man? Is that sheep pink? Yeah? Interesting? All right? That nothing? It is like like a different shot. I mean, it was a it was a Valentine's Day, this pace, it was let's get on.

Track, let's go definitely all right, So we are going to transition here smoothly.

I'm glad you feel better. Cue yeah, I think keep thanks, appreciate it, guys, Okay, I appreciate your support. You're going for forty minutes. If you not talk to you tomorrow, it's probably you can't take this is thanks var that's going to sail it. No, don't do that. That's what I do. And like Brooks was here, I take the water in there too. Make sure you have some water and you're hydrating while you're in there. How the hell do you take an ice water? No, you take your Stanley in there. You take a Stanley in there, and don't those things explode? No, No, you're good. I'm tho Stanley's were exploding. Mine, never minds Mine has never exploded. Like he would walk into that sna literally like in the steam room like the face of Big Noon kickoff, and he would come out like cocoon, like you're trying to kill the guy is way too long. It's not. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm looking up right, I'm telling you somebody somebody told me. A guru told me that before.

I mean, you know, I'm a PhD guy myself, and I don't know about.

Are you. Yeah? All right, sixty new ones. All right.

So we move over to this where there was a rumor that was floated out there that the Pittsburgh Steelers had reached out to the Jacksonville Jaguars about the potential of trading for Trevor Lawrence. Jacksonville, of course, was contacted about that. They pushed back on the report. Well, Trevor Lawrence himself was smearing it up with Kay Adams on up in Adams yesterday and was asked specifically about the Pittsburgh Steelers interest and had this to say, I.

Didn't really see anything. My agent texted me and was, hey, this is a And then of course I saw it after he text me and said, hey, this is a report's out there. I don't think there's anything to it, but I'll check into it. So I saw it and it's funny though when he sent it to me, I was like, I wouldn't say your heart drops what you're kind of like, what like a think and then I'm think about like, well, I can't even get I have a no trade calls in my in my contract, so I would know about it if I was getting if I was getting traded, or if that was something that was gonna happen. You know, I'd have to be on board with it, so which I'm not. I'm happy here in Jacksonville.

I plan on.

You know, we want to win a super Bowl here and you know, I think I think we can do that.

Take that bar all right? Take that good? You were trying to get him released.

Cut all I'm saying into the league, there's no reason for I mean, and a player can speak for themself, right, the player can speak for themselves. But you didn't hear that from from Shiat Khan or or any of the executives at Well, yeah you did, because they did come out and say that that I absolutely weren't going to trade them. But no, no one is off limits, no one. And this Jacksonville Jaguars team is a struggling team for for a little while now, even on his watch, and again, he has no established that he is a bona fide franchise quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll stand on that. So if you're not, if you if you're going into what is this year four? Is this year four?

Ye?

Yeah? Year four? Okay, you're going into year four, and you you had one moment in time that was a shining moment where you were like, here we go, this is the Trevor Lawrence air. It's about to pop off. Here we go, and then nothing after that that was like almost like, oh wait, that was the curtain call. That that was it. That was that was the height of the height. I don't know if that's what it is, but I know that five actually year five, Okay, all right, this is what I do know because he did, dude, the big deal? What last year? Right or the year before? Anyway, the bottom line is he has not definitively shown that you're going in the right direction. He is the future of this franchise. He is the president of this franchise. He hasn't really solidify that. So if you could get some if you could get some real value and not having Trevor Lawrence on your roster, it's not off limits. I don't think it's off limits at all. I mean, he's done more than Pickett. But look at where Picket ended up, and he was a draft pick. They thought that he was going to be a guy. I mean, not as highly luted as as Trevor Lawrence coming out, but he's not even in the place where he started. And if you don't think that they if they could find a quarterback that could do a better job for them, If this coach, especially when you get new coaches involved, you run the risk of not being that coach's guy. And he's got to take a look at what it is he has to do and what that represents to him and his team. And do I want to take look at what happened to Aaron Rodgers. They don't want him, they didn't want him. You got to take a look at it. You gotta value it, you got to assess it. And I don't think that Trevor Lawrence is off off Like I don't think he's non touchable. I don't think he's an untouchable. Yeah, if they just paid him, I don't care. I don't think he's gone. I mean he's not. It doesn't seem like he is.

This is more of if I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, this is a team saying like we're trying to leave no stone unturned. We're calling all these teams up who've got guys who are franchise quarterbacks, and that for many of the reasons that LeVar just stated, maybe there's they have some questions about whether or not he is the guy even though they paid him. So let's give them a call. Which that's why you shouldn't do. Like, if you've got a spot, you've got a problem at any position, let alone the quarterback spot, you should be calling every team possible. So I have no problem with this. I mean, it's again, this stuff happens this time of year. The no trade clause is what's kind of comical about this for Trevor Lawrence because people run with these sorts of narratives. And it's why you know it came from someone in Pittsburgh, because someone in Jacksonville goes, well, first off, Jacksonville's not trading him, and then second he's got a no trade clause, so he'd have to prove whatever trade even if they try to trade him. What was going on. So like this theoretically doesn't work, but for clicks, sure, yeah, well let's just throw it out there on the home screen or you know, the website and let's let's se how many people can drive traffic there to listen to us talk about this conversation.

The Steelers a quarterback got they got some problems. If Russell Wilson is gone, you're looking at Justin Fields, maybe Aaron Rodgers, who has said that he wants to play. But it just feels like there's no there's no fix this offseason that, in my mind, is going to close the gap between them Baltimore and Cincinnati.

Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence. What's your best case scenario? Who is your best case scenario to get if that's your choice, Trevor Lawrence. But it's not happening. I mean, who are we picking from? I mean the ones that I would say are are on their list, Right, we would say that they reached out about Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence, Russ isn't gone yet, right, they haven't made that decisions.

Yeah, I always feel like continuity is better than anything else, Like you like you build from there, And I truly believe this. Anyone who watched the Steelers come up with this, But like they need more help on the outside, like they need more help on that roster if they can't get Pickens to act like a number one, like he can be like he's too inconsistent at times and when I'm watching, I'm like, man, there he is, like there's that guy, there's that number one, and then other times they doesn't feel like he's interested in playing at all. It's it's it's bizarre, but they need more firepower in a division that's got firepower pretty much everywhere in Baltimore, everywhere in Cincinnati, or at least I assume it's gonna be everywhere in Cincinnati. You know, you can even make the case with the town that's on Cleveland. They still got a lot of talent too. So this is a roster that when you compare it to the rest of the division, offensively speaking, it doesn't have as much firepower as everyone else, and so they need more there to go with, whether it's justin Fields Russell Wilson, Like, I'm a bigger believer in one of those two guys seeing this thing forward as opposed to bring in someone else new it again to try to learn Arthur Smith's offense.

Think you gotta go with Russell Wilson. I think he's your best option. And I know people will say, well, you have more of a runway with Justin Fields. I just felt like we saw what we're going to see from Justin Fields. I'm sorry, I feel like the verdict is in on Justin Fields, and and I'm just being honest, and yes, if you give him more weapons, you give him more options and opportunities. Maybe I'm proving wrong, maybe he's a different player, but I just felt like we hit a ceiling with with what you're able to do within that offensive scheme with Justin Fields. Move him around, get a couple he's looking, he's looking to run the ball. He wants to run the ball. You're not going to win just trying to run the ball. It's just not it's not going to happen. You gotta be able to deliver the ball. And he had a couple goods, but I just never saw him take the top off. And it's like, there it is, there's the game you're looking for. That's what they need. And that was to me what gave way for Russell Wilson to get the opportunity to continue to play or to re enter the fold of playing in Pittsburgh, and he did well enough. He fell off the cliff too. I mean, I don't feel like he finished out strong. They didn't finish out strong. But I think a lot of that had to do with WHATQ was talking about on the outside, the lack of weapons. And you also had a defense that I'll continue to say is not as dominant a defense as it has been in the past, and that has always been a staple of these these teams in Pittsburgh is their defenses are going to carry a load, a very heavy load, and you don't have that. So I don't think Trevor Lawrence is the answer. I think you put Trevor Lawrences just safe for the sake of saying it did happen. I think you put Trevor Lawrence in an even bigger, even bigger your situation of catching an l than what he even has in Jacksonville, because I think it's bad for him in Jacksonville. I don't see it improving in Jacksonville. That's just my take on it. You take him out of there, you put them in a market like Pittsburgh where they're expecting more, I think you put them in an even worse situation because I don't know that Trevor Lawrence is the type of quarterback that you bring in and he changes the fortunes of your organization. I don't see that. I don't see. I haven't seen that out of him. Go with Uss.

We'll see, we'll see. They're going to go with Justin Field. I mean, if you're if you're a Primanny Brothers, you better hope they do.

I mean, you get to change your sandwiches, man, like, you know, people love Premanny's. They've been a staple. They deliver.

What a man all right, It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up next here though, we're going to talk to a man who managed to do the impossible. He pissed off a fan base who's got nothing to be pissed off about. And that's yours right here on FSR.

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It's a herd on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, with you in for Colin coming up top next hour. About twenty minutes from now here, we are going to tell you about a player in the NFL who's going to be looking at a very big payday, very very soon, and it could impact his entire organization. We will get into that for you here on FSR before we get to our guy, Pete Prisco. Though you are listening to us now, did you know you can also see us? Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube without further ado. He is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analysts. You can get him on x at prisc go CBS. Pete, how we feel on hand on Tuesday?

Are you going? Is this like a little bit of a promo, a promotion for you guys? Have you stepped up to the league?

Is that what they said, Pete?

No, man, I'm kidding.

It's like little league is like little League.

We're a pinch hitter, you know, you struck out three times around.

I didn't say that. When we was in New Orleans town, talk your little ass off that stage.

Before I even got on the stage with you, you were reminding me about Mike your.

Because there's a phenomenal Tan. You gotta be honest, that is a very distinctive Tan, Pete. I mean, let's be clear here, you got broad shoulders, you got a good Tan. I was giving you all the props in the world. Now you come on here shooting at me.

You know, I don't know if you were giving me props. You're taking shot straight pops. It's all good props.

You're my guy, Pete, since since d C. Come on, man, we got history. You know, a Pete? What did Why did you piss off Eagles fans the way that you did? What did you do?

Now?

It would you do?

All these other quarterbacks? You would take over Jalen Hurts? And now the fan base is going after you on social media? Do you haven't to see any of that, Pete?

Oh yeah, I see it. And I was on a Philly radio station today and another couple of them have reached out and everybody wants to take a shot at me, and and the question was posted to me, which quarterback would I take over a bunch of different quarterbacks? Would you take him for the next five years over Jalen Hurts and a bunch of them? I said yes. And so now, of course the Philly fans are going nuts, and and you know, fresh off the Super Bowl. They can yell and scream all they want, but the reality is about the last month of the season, they weren't sitting there raving about their quarterback either. I don't care what they say. He's a good player, but would I take him over certain quarterbacks in the league. The answer to that question is not what, okay, okay, would you take him over Justin Herbert? I wouldn't m.

I'm not going to answer what what? What? What you guys think?

Why won't you answer?

Because I'm just because there's your questions that you answered, So I was just letting you have it.

I think Herbert's an interesting one. Herbert's an interesting one because I think if you're I think the real question is what Howie Roseman take Justin Herbert over Jalen Hurts? And I would imagine he would say.

Yes, dang, well, there's a And the other one was Trevor Lawrence. I said, look right now, I'd say there there, I'd take. I have a hard time ticking between the two of them because Hurts has played better, but Lawrence is much more upside in my mind, you know. And so that was a tough one for me. I got They got mad about that. Dak Prescott. Now, Dak Prescott LEDs the league in touchdown passes last year.

Stop you take Hurts over him? Right now?

Are you serious? You take Dak over Hurts.

I don't know if I would.

I don't know how one would.

All right, he's by the way in that little playoff running he just had a average throwing about two hundred yards passing. And and you know the sac numbers that he holds the ball way too long. His sack numbers. He has thirty eight sacks on the season, and he threw like two hundred, which is ties his career high from two years ago. And he threw to under almost two hundred few passes. He owns the ball too long. He's good. I see the way I look at it, Guys, you could take one through five, and there's now a five because Jade Daniels is now in that five. The one through five. Those guys are clearly above everybody else. And then the next group of seven or eight, nine guys are all kind of lumped in together.

If you ask me, I'm gonna help us get off this topic. Good to another quarterback, one that seems to be disgruntled with his situation with his franchise. And he's a guy that you've been very high on.

Pete.

You know, you didn't necessarily predict him, never won a super Bowl yet, but you said he's gonna win multiple That's that's Joe Burrow.

Uh.

Did the Bengals get Jamar Chase t Higgins and Trey Hendrickson all done this offseason? And if they you don't think they do. How does the long term out look for Burrow in Cincinnati? Do you think he's gonna eventually get frustrated? He may end up somewhere else like Carson Palmer.

Well, look are the first off. I'll start with the first part of it. I think it's going to be tough to get all three of them done with long term extensions.

So I guess, okay, real quick, real quick, Why do you say that when we look at Philly and Burrow's even said this they figure out how to make it work, So why can't Since Nat.

Can make it work, the question becomes do you do you want to make it work? And the reason I'm saying, of course, those are good players, but what does that do to the rest of your roster? Are they any damn good at all? In defense? And you know Hendrickson is good to.

Get Pete, No, but we're talking about the Super Bowl champs literally just did this with multiple players. They have six players who are making twenty million or more year on their salary.

Yeah, and then they supplement it by going to get a guy like Zack Bond and paying him on one year deal and he becomes a big part of their defense. And now he goes. Now they got to either pay him or he leaves. I get it. You can do it, Brady. That's not That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, if you why not you could tag Higgins and maybe get a market for him out there and trade him and get some assets. And and then if you want to keep Hendrickson and you want to pay Chase, Okay, would I try and keep all of them? Absolutely? But if you if the money gets too crazy and you can't, then I think you have to priority where you want to go with it. And you know, if you take Hendrickson off that defense, what are they are they any good? They're they're horrible. Well then now they're gonna be even worse, and that puts even more pressure on Joe Burrow in that offense. So yeah, I think ideally they tag Higgins, get a deal done with Chase, extend Hendrickson, because you know, Hendrickson isn't a kid anymore. Either extend him and then and then come back to to Higgins and see if can get something done, and if you can't, then you peddle get some something back for him.

But what about the second part of the question, though, do you think it would get to a point going anywhere?

He's one of the top, he's one of the top four quarter he's one of the guys. He's an it guy. You don't get rid. You don't let that go out the door. So no, I don't think so.

You wouldn't have said that about Palmer during his time with the Bengals.

Well, he also suffered a major knee injury at one point.

Remember Burroughs had Burrows had significant injuries like let's.

Not go there.

That's true a major he hasn't there.

He had a very unique like wrist injury, elbow wrist like that. Again, it seemed like it took a little while to work itself out this year.

Yeah, but he worked it out so himself out alright. He threw he had on the MVP type season.

But Pete, don't get distracted by it. You act like this franchise has ever built ever around any quarter, Pete.

Well, I mean they they built around Boomer back in the day.

If you would he say that, if you asked him when he say that, because I've've heard him talk otherwise on that, and that's why he was Palmer's gone. That's why he said maybe Burrow one day would be.

But I think the old reputation of the Bengals is a little misguided now used to be. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and defend what they used to.

So this isn't just because you're really close with a couple of people in the front office.

They're like, is this sounds like there's a little bias in your He's pretty close with a couple of people.

I know.

I won't I won't say name's Pete, but you and I both know you're You're you're friendly. You're friendly with a few guys. Sounds like you're friendly.

Pete, I'm not.

I'm not friendly. I know some of them, but the reality is I don't think there're as cheap as everybody portrays in the big.

Well, what are tell us what they are?

Pete? The question becomes, do you want to keep t Higgins inlua going get help in other positions? That's that's basically what it comes down to. Would you Yes?

I would. I would keep t Higgins too.

I keep him too, But but if he gets irrational, then then I'm not keeping him. The aut trade him somewhere, get something for him.

But that's the tag, right doesn't the tag remove the irrational approach to what it is you have going on? It's like you're getting a negotiate a deal with them, That's what I'm saying. You get a non exclusive tag that says we you're giving them the opportunity to see what his value is on the open market. So if you come back and we got to have a conversation about your your contract, then you understand that the market has spoken and that We're most likely your best option, right and now how it would play out? Or you just stay on that non exclusive tag or.

You can just tag it. And I mean you could do that too. I think letting him leave the free agency would be the worst thing they could do.

Uh.

Pete Prisco joining us here on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. Pete, who's the worst run organization in the NFL?

Oh? Good question?

Jacksonville? What Pete?

Answer the question? Answer the question, Pep.

Trent was in they're running things, they were the worst running I would answer that question by.

One under that Carolina. I mean that's a Jacksonville.

Carolina, Jacksonville. When Trent balk was running the Jacksonville Jaguars, they were the worst run organization in the in the league. I would agree. I would one agree with that, all right. You know, the owner gives that proposition a lot of power, and that power he brought in you know urban Meyer. I mean, come on, he brought in urban Meyer. Look what happened with that? That was a master and so and so situation. It's the worst run Yeah, for that time being, was the worst run organization. So yes, to answer that question, Yes.

What about right now?

Right?

Now who's got it?

Now, Well, let's see who they hire as a general manager. Then I'll get back.

But they're down to five, right, They're down to five. They get there, they are down to five.

But look, Tony Boselli, who I know well and Brady knows them as well.

There we go again, here we go.

They hired him in an executive VP, and he's going to the organization. He's they're going to the right year fix it. And it all depends on who Liam how Liam Cone is as head coach, and I think from what I hear, he's going to be pretty good. But okay, okay, tee, It's just football, by the way, It's not that complicated. It really isn't. It's it's look, you know, Tony BALLI I worked with him on radio for all those years and and had to teach him part of the game. Him down here and now he's back and running the Jets. I had to teach him part of the game. Brady Quinn all over the TV everywhere I work with him down here, I had to teach him part of that. It's not that complicated. It's just him football.

And left you Pete. Now you're there.

Everybody left.

You know what, don't bring somebody else in to work with me, and I'll teach him a singer to you every Sunday to.

Some good chicken cutts or something. Pete us go.

You can get him on ex at Prisco CBS and if you come for him, he does like the smoke, so he will respond on social media. Thanks Pete, We appreciate it all.

Guys.

There Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnsts from CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst. Uh.

By the way, with the exception of a couple of ales have been in the bottom half of the league. It's cash spending and especially if you take out Burrows money.

So there you go. Yeah, I love Pete. Man.

You can tell he always he always manages uh an opportunity to get a few digs in. You know, he's got to take his shots. Well, man, there's just mutual respect, just mutual respect, you know. Okay, yeah, that's cool. You know, just a couple of couple of one of those office guys he's close with. Yeah, I got to that's my guy.

So were good. Damn

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