Best of The Herd

Published Jul 10, 2024, 7:58 PM

Colin is back! He reflects on his time off and explains why sports are great and politics can be so frustrating. He shares his top 10 quarterback - head coach combos in the NFL before training camp begins. Colin also welcomes Bills LT Dion Dawkins in studio to talk about the expectations for Buffalo this season and how they'll replace Stefon Diggs

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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher on Fox Sports Radio.

Oh, welcome back. It is great to have you in live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. First of all, tip of the cap. Thank you Danny Parkins. Ashley Brewer filled in last couple of days. Totally appreciate that. Jordan Schultz filling in for jmackrest of the week. How are things, my man doing great? Not as good as Rhode Island, though Rhode Island was wonderful, but it is good to be back. And it got me thinking I would have every day to myself in the mornings, I'd go take the new dog go out, and it got me thinking about why I love sports and talking to a lot of people in Rhode Island. One of the things I was listening to sports radio in Boston for a couple of days. One of the things I love about sports the pressure, the adult conversations. It's not too mean to talk about somebody's age. There's a lot of pressure and you gotta win now. I was thinking outside of Andy Reid, Sean McVeigh, Jim Harbaugh, and Matt Lafleur, four coaches in the entire sport. If any other coach had a bad season, they're in big trouble. Kyle Shanahan has a losing record Without Christian McCaffrey, that roster go seven to ten. You don't think there's heat on Kyle Shanahan. What about John Harbaugh? They wanted to run him out of town three years ago. You think they finished third or fourth in that division?

Not heat.

Even the rookie coaches. You get off to a bad start by Thanksgiving. Uh oh, we got the wrong guy. You can even make the criticism in sports personal. Pete Carroll, though he has the energy of a seventeen year old after a bag of skittles, you know he is in his seventies. That's an adult conversation. Not a lot of coaches got into their seventies and were at their best. Bill Belichick six rings even named a vote after it. He feels a bit like a dinosaur. You can have those conversations. Brian Dable not only got Daniel Jones of the playoffs, he won a game with Daniel Jones. You want a game he goes six and eleven. He probably gets fired, and I think he's a great coach. That's what's great about sports. That's not the downside. Five of the last eight NBA Coaches of the Year got fired from the team they won the award. Expects adult conversations when now you're paid a lot. Yet in the Democratic Party it's considered agist, harsh, mean to have discussions about Joe Biden's age, his mental acuity. I don't know. It feels like the president's a fairly important job. I read that people were caught off guard by his regression.

You don't have.

iPhones, grow up, have a real conversation. People are having conversations and questioning it four years ago. But in politics, I'm uncomfortable. Not in sports. Not in sports. Dak Prescott, you make Patrick Mahomes money, win more when it counts. I love Lamar Jackson another stinker in the playoffs. Time for real heat. Sean McDermott KEEPS's winning his division. I'm sorry, Josh Allen's too good not to end up in super Bowls. Those aren't the downsides to it. It's why I defended vigorously the Angel Reese Caitlin Clark discussions. The girls could handle it. The women were fine. It was all the fragile sports media asking weird, dorky questions and being uncomfortable with it. The women were great. Caitlin's going to be fine. Angel Reese is crushing it, and you should push back on fragile sports media if they're outraged by things that are happening to everybody. I enjoy politics every four years, but the reason I love sports is accountability and adult conversations and debate at home on a show in a bar, real people talking about real things, pressurized situations. Don't let sports become politics again. Five of the last eight NBA head coaches Gonzo, we want more, Dak Prescott. Yes, you win twelve games a year, just none when it matters. So that's my takeaway. Seventeen days off sports has some politics in it. Let's never let it become politics. I like what it is now, and sometimes it's harsh and tough and almost mean and a little rude, and we debate sometimes over a beer and what I love about sports and what drives me crazy about politics. I'm sorry for the last four years. I don't watch a lot of TikTok, but I either have singing goats or Joe Biden gaffs. It's okay to talk about it. Really, the democracy thing, it's kind of important. The other thing that was notable to me, And I don't know why it gets people worked up. But man, unless they had a half dozen people ask me about this, they were talking about it coast to coast on sports radio, Colin, what do you make a Brownie James being drafted?

I don't know.

Isn't it kind of an understanding in America? You do me well, I owe you a solid that's like a given right. I take you to the airport you're buying the next dinner, I help you move, I get a little something something back like that's the American way. Lebron James has carried the NBA for twenty years. He didn't have a long playoff run this year. Did you see the NBA ratings as every other sport WNBA, COPA, Euros college football, up up, up, up up, NBA ratings EO tank No Lebron. He carried the Lakers, not a well run franchise for six years, got him a title, number one brand in the league. Carried the Cavs for eleven years. They've never mattered except when he played there. Got him a title. You owe me dinner, if I help you move, if I carry your sport, get you a new TV contract worth seven billion. You got a problem with Bronnie James getting drafted by the Lakers. It's the weakest NBA draft and maybe ever. In fact, what's funny is the Milwaukee Bucks thirty picks earlier drafted a kid out of Australia that played eight minutes a game in Australia and average less than Bronni. It shows how polarizing lebron James is. I had more people ask me about that on the East Coast, and my takeaway is you're really bothered by it. Let me ask you this. Let's say you've done well in your life, and you have a favorite steakhouse in your small, middle size or big town, and you go to that steakhouse or the Aposta joint and you buy a lot of wine. For years, you spend a lot of money at that steakhouse.

You know what I mean.

You've taken a lot of business dinners at that steakhouse. You didn't have to, You chose to, don't you. After a few years feel like you get a little better poor on that pino. Maybe get you a better table. Damn straight, you do, and so do I. We all have expectations, we seek favors. We all get a little entitled if we give you something. Lebron James has carried the league for twenty years. He and Steph Curry have carried the league. Neither made a playoff run. This year, ratings went to the tank as everything else is. The COPA and the Euros are going through the roof NBA with a lot of good players. Global Sport tanked No Lebron, no Steph. Yeah, I'm okay. In the weakest draft ever, the Lakers going, We'll do you solid in the five previous years before Lebron got to the Lakers. I could be wrong on this. I think that the worst record in the league. They were a circus. They were leaking everywhere, He won him a title, got him to another Western Conference finals in the weakest draft ever. His son, who By the way, I think his son's a G leaguer. I think at best he's a low end rotational player. But this draft was horrible. After the thirty sixth or thirty seventh pick, you can argue it's a G league draft. I'm not losing sleep over it, and nor should you. Here was Lebron on the selection.

Now, let's say it has a dream come true for me, just see my son to be able to you know, be in the NBA loan and then it's always been a dream of his and for us to be a side by side. It's a lot of words have lost theiatus.

I don't know many.

Kid has worked so hard to get back to this point. There's just so much has happened over the last year with him. To have this happen less than a year from his accident, to be with our friends and our family. When he announced his name, it was something that was super surreal.

By the way, how many sons who aren't qualified or at minimum aren't the best candidate end up on their father's staffs in the NFL or college. Nobody gets too worked up over that. There's other far more qualified candidates. I think it's something about America that's understood, and I'm okay with it. You do me as solid. I got dinner, you help me move. Maybe I'm going through a tough time emotionally and you're there for me.

I owe you.

I mean, how many owners take over for their parents that actually live up to expectations. Not many will start with that. Don't get worked.

Up over it.

It's the world we live in. Inspect your own life, put a microscop on it, and if you really thought about the things you expect after you help others at a favorite restaurant, we all do it. It's okay, It's not worth losing fifteen minutes a sleepover, all right. We got all sorts of stuff. Klay Thompson that got very touchy feely. The Yankees are a mess. The NFC, I thinks better than people think. And there were two NBA free agent moves I wasn't here. One I thought was stupendous, better than every other move, and one loss I think really will be punitive for a team. So we'll talk about that. Jordan Schulton today j Max somewhere in the world. He's abroad. I believe it's great to be back. Hoped, hope to have you interested here. For the next several hours.

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The NFL, choosing its first game of the season, chose the Chiefs and the Ravens AFC. So it does feel like here at Fox we primarily have NFC, it feels like it is tilted toward an AFC sport over the last five or six years. A lot of that is the bad teams had high draft picks and a lot of them hit on quarterbacks. Houston, Cincinnati with Burrough. You know, Kansas City wasn't a bad team. Alex Smith got them to the playoffs. But you have a lot of AFC teams that were bad or took a swing on a quarterback and they all hit. Jacksonville justin Herbert to the Chargers, who now has Jim Harbad, Trevor Lawrence, CJ. Stroud was surprisingly good right out of the shoot. So in the NFC for years and years didn't have a real bottom you know, you'd have Washington underachieving Lions for years and years, but AFC just they've hitting a lot of quarterbacks. And this is a coach quarterback league. If you have the coach and the quarterback, you can have flaws everywhere, as long as you're not horrific on the offensive line and your quarterback's not under siege on most snaps. And so I think I do feel like the NFC is drawing closer to the AFC in the coaching quarterback combination, but it's still AFC over NFC. My top ten if I gave you a top ten AFC NFC quarterback combination, the first one's an easy one. That's Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes highest win percentage by any quarterback coach combo in the Super Bowl era. That's an easy one. He's the great play designer, a clever play caller, and Mahomes right now is the most gifted quarterback potentially ever but certainly playing right now. Number two, I'd go McVeigh and Matt Stafford. I think Matt Stafford, because of his years in Detroit, was overlooked a next to Maholmes, maybe the best arm talent in the league side. Arm does everything but throw it left handed, big over the top arm. I think McVeigh maybe the smartest coach period in the sport. I'd put him at two. I'd go John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson three. Bottom line is they've won ten plus games and reached the playoffs in five or six years. Listen, Lamar is different, and you're gonna have a different offense with him. But if you can win seventy five percent of your games, especially in the AFC North, to be that good perpetually, I'd put them third. I'd put Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert four. Now, a little bit of that is a projection. I think Herbert's a remarkable talent, and there's an argument to be made college and pro Jim Harbaugh is the best coach on the planet, So I would put them fourth in the coach quarterback combo. I would put Sean McDermott Josh Allen fifth, and I think we all know Josh is probably even more so than Mahomes, just physically on a different planet, size, speed, arm strength. There's just nothing like Josh Allen in the world, including Mahomes. I think the misgivings we have sometimes defensive coaches in big playoff games against offensive coaches we worry about. But they've got four straight division titles. They're obviously a very good football organization. So I would say four of the top five are AFC. Okay, so that right off the top, once again, it's the AFC. You can argue about the order after Reid and Mahomes. Certainly I would go to the next five, and I start with another AFC team, Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. Now, listen, Bengals have reached at least the AFC Championship in any year Joe Burrow has been healthy. Now I do believe he has one injury away from real adult conversations on looking to draft another quarterback at some point, maybe not a first round pick, but now this is his first year without offensive coordinator Brian Callahan, who's the Titans head coach, so that'll be a little interesting. Then starting at number seven, I feel like the NFC teams are on the come. Matt Lafleur, Jordan Love would be number seven. I'd like to see a little bit more of Jordan Love, but the last of the year, the kid was on fire, and I'll give Matt Lafleur a lot of credit. When Aaron Rodgers was there, I felt like it was Aaron's offense and Aaron's team. I thought last year Matt Lafleur could really flex. I thought he was really clever. I loved his game plans. I loved his alterations at half. I thought Matt Lafleur really established himself as a top five six coach.

In the league.

Number eight Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott, and they've won twelve games each of the last three seasons. Nobody else in the league has done that. McCarthy's a good, solid coach. Daks of Soligan that you can argue they're both B plus, but that gives you number eight in the NFL. We just we want more in January. Number nine, i'd probably go to and Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's sort of Kyle Shanahan West, very clever. When two is healthy, there's an argument this is the Breeze Sean Payton relationship. Two is accurate. Do I think he can go up in cold weather to Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City, Cincinnati if it's thirteen degrees in windy do I think he can go toe to toe with a Mahomes or a Josh Allen. No, I do not, but you don't have to play those guys much. Cross your fingers the weather goes your way. Number ten, I'd do Jared Goff and Dan Campbell. I think Dan Campbell, in my opinion, can be a little bit too much led by emotion. Sometimes I don't love all of Dan Campbell's situational coaching. Highly emotional guy.

I wish he was.

A bit more restraint. But you know, I've been saying this about Jared Goff for years. Throws one of the prettiest balls in the league. The Lions have winning records in back to back years. If I had to go eleven, I'd go Shanahan and Brock Pretty so I could say the bottom six through eleven, there's a lot more NFC representation, But I still think by and large, the AFC at the top six of the top ten quarterback coaching combinations, We're not going to argue with Reid and Mahomes. Everything after that you can argue about.

And with that.

Dion Dawkins three Pro Bowls, highest gradded Buffalo Bill offensive lineman every year He's been there seven seasons, all of the Bills in Buffalo, six time playoff for former Good to see you again, my friend.

Nice to have you in.

You know, it's interesting because I always said this about Phil Mickelson because he played in the era of Tiger Woods. You just don't understand how good Phil Mickelson was. It's the same with the key alats you on. If there's no Michael Jordan, the team could have four titles. I saw him go toe to Toea Shack and at times really give Shack a problem. So you guys are just happened to be in the era of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, and you feel like sometimes you want to say, hey, everybody, we're winning like ten games a year. We're good over here. That you get you sometimes get criticized because you're just not beating it. Maybe the best coach quarterback combination in the history of the sport.

I think.

In the era that we're in now. You know, like there's a lot of great players all over this this league. You know, it's an offensive league now, it's a passing league. It's an offensive league. It's a quarterback driven league, and I think there's a lot of great players all around, you know, like, yes, we are thankful to be playing in the time that we're playing because we're playing with somebod these some of these guys that are that are putting up numbers that we haven't seen. And the money is good, and the money is great. The money is great. Uh, when it's great and then it changes, and then it's great, and then it changes, then it's great. You know.

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Yea, yeah. My take on Stefan Diggs was it was time loved him. I said this about Klay Thompson. There's time, it's pro sports, there's salary caps.

Yeah.

And I also think key On Campbell's great. And I also think by getting the kid out of Utah the tight end with Dawson Knox Cook Josh, I think you're fine. I don't think that's going to be the issue. I think you'll be fine. There was a lot made about the drama. I like stuff on, but I did think it got verbal. You'd see some stuff where like he was unhappy when you heard he was moving on.

What was your take, Okay, n.

It was it was it was more so like like more so just.

Just a deep breath.

It was like it was just like all right, you know, like Steph, Steph was a great teammate, Like Steph Steph is probably like one of the best teammates that that I've had, you know, like seeing how he prepares for a game, how he treats his teammates, how he executes his passion, and I think what the world mistakes of what they're calling drama. It is just the passion that he has for the sport. Like I don't expect anybody to be happy with losing, Like and we're all not frantic, but like we're all at that height of emotions, Like it's an emotional sport, and Steph is an emotional guy for the things that he loves and football is one of those things.

And uh, I think we're like, like we're gonna miss him.

We love him, and uh, if it was time and Brandon Bean has all those keys, like we don't control any of that. You know, I was sad to see him go, but I'm happy to see him smile, and you know, he's smiling and he'll be a great player wherever and he goes. And I'm just glad that, you know, like we got to take a shot at it with Steph.

And yeah, I you know, it's interesting.

Dean Dawkins Bill's offensive lineman, best highest graded lineman Buffalo's had all years. He's been there for years, I said, I criticized Sean Mcjordi's said, Shan, I watched Sean McVeigh rebuild his own line in one year.

I watched Andy Reid do it in one year.

I'm like, outside of the Dawkins, guy, I need that offensive line in that run game to be better, and now you've got Cook. Was it a fair criticism guys like me saying I'm watching these offensive coaches fix that thing fast. It did feel like it took him about fought. Now I do field last year, you guys, past protection was excellent, Yes, excellent. In fact, there's a stat here you allowed the few of sacks in the league. And I did think you're you found your running back.

He's an a for sure.

Was the criticism fair for years that can we give Josh a little help up front with the run game?

Was that a fair criticism?

Yeah, I mean it's it's always fair because we went We've had so many changes every single year.

We've had so many changes.

And like I tell people when I talk about it, is I play left and left tackle.

And I'm blessed. I'm I'm good at what i do.

And I've had a different guard every single year since I've been in the NFL. I've been in the league for eight years, and I've had a different guard every single year that I have been in the league. We've had a center that just went to the Jaguars, which is Mitch, but he's been there good play. And then our right guard and our right tackle has switched off and on, so we've had a different piece of movements ever since we've got there. And I honestly want to tip my hat to Josh because he's been scrambling and doing his thing with the group that you know, finds the brotherhood during camp and OTA's and to get the season done.

And last year, like we.

Were fully healthy the entire year, and I'm thankful for it.

I want you to tell our audience this because they may not understand this that I've said before, Like the Jets are a great example. You got old guys, you got a rookie, you got new guys in the preseason. The old guys don't take snaps anymore during games. So forget that that Jets old. They're gonna be as good as their own line. I don't care about the defense, I don't care about Aaron. There's a lot of stuff. They got a lot of movement. I like Tyron Smith's gonna give you about fourteen games. I like the rookie. He's never taken an NFL snap. It's a whole different ballgame than college. So tell the people about the relationship and a new guard, because I think the fans just say, hey, you're on an island out there, just protect the quarterback, right, What why it matters, Yeah, to have a new guard. Why is that symmetry so important?

Yeah? Because uh like and I and I really appreciate that because a lot of people don't know.

But like when you're playing.

Guard, and I don't know because I don't play guard, but when you're playing guard, the guard controls the the I guess forward and back of the pocket. If the pocket is getting pushed back vertically back, that means that the guards are not doing what they're supposed to do, which is holding the line. The tackles are supposed to keep the with We're supposed to keep everything away while the guards keep everything forward. So over time, like you know, the like the quarterback sees like like, okay, this guy is a little bit less stronger than this guy. I know, if we're playing against a heavier or lighter or aster line, I know that I could just step to my right just a little bit to get this pass off, or I know, you know, Dion is going to keep this guy as wide as possible. So if I need to drift, I need to drift, I could drift to my left and to get.

The ball out.

So the guards that shift in and out. It takes reps, reps over reps over reps during camp, during OTA's, during live reps for the quarterback to actually understand what type of player he has. And then with seeing us in front of different type of competition, like we.

Got guys like like like.

On the Chiefs, like Jones, right, like we know that, all right, Jones is one of those guys like we have to Josh knows that I can be over here just a half a second more than this side, and I know that Dion is going to do this or chop a guy down, or Spencer is going to do do that. So the quarterback knows where he can puzzle his passage him. Yeah, and Josh has had to do do what Josh does, and he's been guessing, but not really guessing, but trying to figure out who his guys really are over a duration of a season because it takes the full season to really understand.

I always feel like it's an advantage to be a really good offensive lineman in division games because most pass rushers, even the good ones, either have a tell or two moves, And so when you play a guy twice, the advantage is to you, not to him, for sure, right, And I've.

Always so as that's for sure.

Division games are an advantage to the offensive lineman.

Yeah, it is a full advantage.

But if you take it as oh, I got his card, then it could mess you up. But yes, like when you play the same guy over and over and over, you kind of know exactly who he is.

So tell me a good guy that's out.

You don't have to play HM anymore.

Maybe retired, retired guy, but a guy that you knew you'd played enough that you kind of knew you had a sense of what he was. Rookies, you're just.

Better than I don't worry about rookies.

But I'm talking about a guy that you played, or maybe don't play. Maybe he's in the NFC now that you had some success.

Maybe like a guy like Robert Quinn.

Right, Like a guy like Robert Quinn goodlay, like a great player, but once you play him over and over, like he was with the Dolphins when I was.

Really young, and he was really good.

At that jump chop move, and you know, over repetition, you could kind of time it and figure it out, almost like a boxing match, but like you're just jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at it, and you can time what he's going to do. And that's where the benefit was to a younger player, because you play him once and then you're like, all right, you already know what this older vet is going to give you every single play and it kind of is definitely to our events.

Have there been players that have surprised you on the edge, Oh yeah, and you're like, oh boy, have you ever had a game when you feel like you're bailing water for a quarter?

Yeah? Like bailing water.

Look, I am very confident in my game as of right now. I think and I know that I'm if not the best and left tackle, I'm the best left tackle in the NFL. And my favorite player that I play against is Trey from the Bengals, Trey Henderson. He is one of the best players that I think just mentally physically and just what he does on the football. He comes out there and he plays with no gloves on.

That's right, Max Crosby Field, that is that is exactly that is.

That is one of those weird tells that when you come out on the football field and you see a player and you're looking at him on snap one, you're like, all right, his helmet is tied up, he has his shoes, all right, swag check, Okay, let's see what type of player is. And then you look at his hands and his hands. He has no gloves on. And for a player that plays and with his hands all game like, that means that you're just a little a little bit like, all right, he's a real football player. And then he comes and he hits you every single play, boom boom boom boom boom. Every rep, every play, he's coming at you. And that tell you that you have to be on your p's and q's.

No no matter what.

But and and and and Miles Garrett, Like Miles Garrett, I tip my hat.

He's just one of those guys.

He's one of those guys that that I know that look, I respect you on and off of the field, and I know the type of player that you are and he brings it every single rep. So, yes, there's multiple players. These guys on the defensive fensive side are getting more freakish every single day.

I always respect it.

I always feel like a great offensive lineman is an intellect. At some point, you're an intellect. You have to see the game before it happens. I always think a great pass rusher, he's got a half screw, for sure, he's blowing stuff up. Like the great pass rushers. There's just a different click to them.

For sure.

Are are our most trash talkers, Max Max Crosby is a trash talker.

Most most of those guys are trash talk That's right, that's part of their DNA. Yeah, it's just it's just what uh, it's what they do. They try to get into the offense of lineman's head. But uh, they are trash talkers, you know. And uh, Vaughan is Vaughan, which is my teammate. Now what I'm thankful for. Vaughn is one of those funny trash talkers. And h he might catch you like but like off guard, like like what's you today?

But he's talking, he's talking smack.

So you're you're protecting And I say this with all respect to Mahomes, you're protecting the most physically gifted quarterback I've ever show.

There's nothing different for sure.

He also is in the second smallest market in Buffalo, and I think to myself, you know, you guys wear helmets, so you know, fans know who you are, but you can hide a little. For Josh Allen to be in Buffalo, it's like farvar Aaron Rodgers.

In Green Bay.

Do you ever think he feels a bit overwhelmed, like can't go to the grocery store kind of thing you ever find? I think to myself, I mean in New York, he'd be mobbed in Buffalo.

How does he go to.

He doesn't, Josh doesn't you know, Josh Josh. He stays away, you know, out of respect of the little bit of time that he has because he spends all day at the facility, so when he's not in the building, he can't go anywhere.

Like dinners are usually the best because we.

Go in one way and out the next, and the people that are in charge there they take great care of us where we can just sneak in and sneak out. But Josh, Josh is at the highest of the highest, Like mobs will really mob and it's like.

A real mob.

Oh yeah, how does he lead? Does he ever bark?

I mean, does Josh ever bark? I mean, is he ever allowed? I mean, like you, he didn't have to, but is he is he ever gotten afty a little bit?

Like absolutely, Josh.

Josh is like one of those guys that that will do what it takes at that moment, and he's definitely a barker when that time comes. And I've actually seen the bark a lot more this OCA is where he's been like very very like verbal. Because our team is different, like it's it's.

It's different, have some young dudes on that offense.

We got some young dudes that like, you know, like when they come in, like they see a little bit of of success and it could change. So Josh is doing exactly what and what he should.

So you guys, let go of a couple of really good veterans, not only good players, like leader guys. So it feels like to me, it's like you and Josh are kind of like leaders. Now are you comfortable? Are you comfortable barking? Are you comfortable being that guy?

Yeah, I've I've always barked, you know, like I'm I'm always want to shoot it straight, Like I don't like, I don't hide.

I live in a vulnerable state, and I tell it the way that it should.

And I've wore the captain c on my chest for three years and it's it's a it's a blessing to even be in that realm of looked at as that. So I think that when you're in a position to run a football team, you have to bark, and you have to know who you can bark too, because everybody doesn't take barking.

The right way. So you have to learn what type of bark to use for which type of player.

That's interesting, Like like, I don't know Keon fully yet because he's new.

I can't just be like Keon, let's go. I don't know yet.

So I'm gonna see in a couple practices and see what type of kid he is when he gets hit, and I'm gonna see and then if he can take it, then he'll he'll definitely get the barks.

Buffalo's weather can be a little chilly. Yeah, you know, Keon Coleman is a Florida kid. I always thinking to you, you're a Temple guy, So do you do you tell some of those Florida Texas guys when they come up You're like, Okay, now our summer it's about twelve days.

Maybe ten maybe ten days, but it's it gets cold quick, do you do?

You give him a heads up, like you better be ready because it's brand of football up here. There are no finesse. Buffalo build tings for sure. You tell him that, no problem.

Yeah, it's it's more so like, look, kid, I mean they always say like how do you do it?

Like how do you do it?

And I always say, the blessing of it is we could afford jackets, you know, like you could afford a nice jacket. So get you a nice jacket, make sure you start your car in the morning, and get your butt to practice.

You'll be all right.

Well, my wife used to have to do on some pr work around the country and she always said Buffalo had the nicest people of anywhere.

But they do, and I will I will back that Buffalo does have have some great people.

You know that they have. They're bad too, like bo has.

You know they're bad, but you know, for the most part, Buffalo, Buffalo's people are.

Are the best.

I mean a lot to the community.

And they love us.

And you know, like I played a temple which it wasn't Alabama, so I didn't really have that overall feel of what being truly appreciated as an athlete was until I got to the Bills. And when I got there, it was like the highest of the highest. So it's a it's a beautiful feeling to have a neighborhood and a community. Really, you know, high key worship the Bills because.

You know, it's interesting Brady goes. Part of the Brady story, Tom Brady story is he was overlooked. So you're one of the top two or three left tackles in the entire sport. It's the second most valuable position after quarterback, and you go to temple. Does it still push off? Do you still think yourself? Oh, like when you see a pass rusher from Ohio State, do you think bring it black eye?

I I have the biggest chip on my shoulder and I take it with the most pride that I'm playing against guys that went to these big schools and have all these accolades, and I'm and I'm doing my job.

You know where they go to school.

For sure, you know we're all every guy.

We look at the depth chart top to bottom size what round they got drafted. They're forty times their weight, their their their bench press and two twenty five their three con drill all of it. I look at every single thing about the player. But no, I am I'm thankful that I went to Temple because Temple continued to mold me to.

Have that dog.

And uh, when I'm off of the field, I'm very calm. I'm I'm calm but chaotic, but I'm calm. And then when I play, it's it's a whole different ball game. Thank and thankful, tuiz and and and cultural.

Max Crosby is one of my favorite people. He is and a part of why I like him is he's just wired differently. How many times have you faced him?

Twice?

I think it was twice.

I think it was twice, but once when Max Crosby was Max Crosby, like you know, like when like now Max Crosby is is is Max Crosby, Like he's flowing, like he's he's at the best of his game and.

He's getting better.

But you faced when he was a kid younger.

You overlooked my school.

Still and still overlooked still.

But it's okay because I'm winning in the shadows and then that'll change and when it changes.

But Hey, you're in year eight. It's still great.

You know Dean Dawkins who has been the highest graded offensive linemup of the Buffalo Bills every year he's been there.

It's always good.

Senior man, it's a beautiful What are you doing out west?

Well?

I train and I drive drift cars. Man, I'm I'm big and drifting.

Now what does that mean?

What that is? Drift?

So let me tell you? So, Like you know what NASCAR is, you know what down drifting is? Where you drive sideways. It's literally driving sideways and like but like you might think that like you're going one hundred miles per hour, You're literally going like maybe forty fifty sixty? How do you do this at the big Indian drift pit in uh in Buffalo?

It's a it's a beautiful thing.

Was that a course at Temple? When did you get into that? What's going on?

I'm telling Buffalo just keeps unveiling different parts of Buffalo. Like I didn't even know that Buffalo has this stuff. And it's just like, hey, Dan, like you want to go drifting? Like Tony said, Dion, do you want to go drifting? I was like, I don't know what drifting is and I go out there and I get in the drift car and Eric just takes me on a spin and I fell in love, Like it was the same thrill of being in the game because you're in control and you have to fight in the car while spinning sideways. And then two days later, I have my own car and I was drifting my own car.

Two days later, they drove down to Georgia, picked the car up and did their thing.

I do I and it's actually it's starting to pop a little bit.

It looks really really scary.

Like I guess the question would be, when you're in there, are you more nervous than anything else? So no, And let me explain why, because it's because, like you have to think, right, Like when you're in a car and you're going two hundred miles per hour straight with nobody really around you.

When you're drifting, you're.

This close to the car and that you're racing against. So a little bump, a little top, it's not about to make the car do all this crazy stuff.

It's just gonna spin an out and then you just idle out.

Like the cars never flip, they never do all this weird stuff. The bumper might pop off, but the car will then stop and then it's over it. So it's you know, you got a full cage, you got it right, But you're not as far apart from the car.

You're closer.

I'm not pulling into Starbucks doing drifting that Yeah, that is crazy.

Makes the car well, uh well, I'm a monster athlete, so I got monster that that's helping me with with all of the.

Ins and out.

And then I have Eric and Eric's crew which is now in my crew in Buffalo, that are tuning it and tweaking my engine and doing all all the cool stuff.

There's a part of America things are happening, and this you don't even know.

Well, it's so cool, man, I'm telling you you would love it.

What would it take for Colin all to do is just come out.

I'm gonna drift fifty five miles an hour on the I five going home today.

That'll be that's probably more dangerous.

I could see anybody love brother,

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