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Ah here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are live in Los Angeles. NBA playoffs start tonight. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I have got some thoughts on JJ McCarthy. I finally figured out JJ McCarthy the Dream Team would clobber the men's basketball Olympic team that's going to Paris. I'll get into that. Kate Clark, she sold out WNBA jerseys in one hour on fanatics. I thought they had an nendeless supply. She sold them out in an hour. They got a thousand people to the draft last night. Those tickets sold out in fifteen minutes. Wow. So I mean it's amazing. You never know where stars are gonna come from like in Los Angeles. I think it was in the eighties, Fernando Mania.

Ah here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are live in Los Angeles. NBA playoffs start tonight. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I have got some thoughts on JJ McCarthy. I finally figured out JJ McCarthy the Dream Team would clobber the men's basketball Olympic team that's going to Paris. I'll get into that. Kate Clark, she sold out WNBA jerseys in one hour on fanatics. I thought they had an nendeless supply. She sold them out in an hour. They got a thousand people to the draft last night. Those tickets sold out in fifteen minutes. Wow. So I mean it's amazing. You never know where stars are gonna come from like in Los Angeles. I think it was in the eighties, Fernando Mania.

Oh that's right.

Oh that's right.

It was unbelievable. Who would have guessed that? And I want to start with that is that Caitlin Clark got me to a TV last night. I'd never watched the WNBA draft, and I watched the first forty five minutes of the WNBA Draft. You know you have pull. You have it when you get me to a television set and I know what's gonna happen. I always said Titanic's a great movie. I watched it three times. I knew the boat sank, I knew the ending, I knew what happened. You read the books. It still got me to a movie theater. That's power. You never know where the stars come from. The highest compliment you can pay anybody in this frenetic distracted world entertainment, iPhones, tech talk everywhere, the greatest compliment you can get somebody me last night to sit down in front of a TV and watch something I don't normally watch. When I knew the outcome, I knew how it was gonna end. Caitlin Clark goes number one, and I recognized many of the top ten twelve picks. I'm not going to recognize many of the top twelve NBA draft picks. The NBA draft has become like the Oscars, a lot of stuff that won't get me to a theater. I'll take your word for it. Those foreign films are great. I don't know exactly why Caitlin Clark is this popular. I mean, she's great, there's so many great athletes, she's non controversial, she plays women's college basketball. But I think a lot of it is in a world where all these sports leagues are trying to siphon more money out of you. I mean, you watch the Yankees. They're on six different streaming services. This channel, that channel, this channel? Where's baseball? Where's the MLS? March Madness Iowa Hawkeyes, little flashy, likable player has really good range. She gives me what I know. I've said this about the NFL. It's the only league. I say, when do you watch the NFL? You not only give me the day Sunday, but you give me the times you watch it. Mission impossible, Tom Cruise, They're on their eighth Mission impossible. Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, March Madness numbers, NFL numbers up, all mostly domestic, all things we've watched for years. The crazier the world gets, the more global it gets. And I think the NBA has got more great players than ever globalization. Caitlan Clark is what you know, Iowa Little under Dog, March Madness, broadcast television mostly or cable. It's just fascinating to watch the things that get me to a TV in a theater. I know it's getting bigger out there, and the streaming services and I got to have this plus and that plus and that streaming and I find myself seeking simple, seeking, dependable, seeking traditional. And I'm watching last night and I'm like, oh, I know that player. I know that player, I know that program. I watched that program comfort Food. That was like comfort television last night. I'm busy, I'm distracted. I don't want to pay for another cable channel. I don't want to pay for another streaming service. March Madness ratings up, NFL ratings up. I mean, I'm trying to explain the unexplainable. Well, she's a really good player. Her ratings were bigger than everything except the NFL. Iowa Women's basketball dependable traditional, non confrontational, fun, easy to consume, likable, and I've seen it before. The Big Ten and March Madness got me to a television set last night. Here's Caitlin Clark after.

It was unbelievable. Who would have guessed that? And I want to start with that is that Caitlin Clark got me to a TV last night. I'd never watched the WNBA draft, and I watched the first forty five minutes of the WNBA Draft. You know you have pull. You have it when you get me to a television set and I know what's gonna happen. I always said Titanic's a great movie. I watched it three times. I knew the boat sank, I knew the ending, I knew what happened. You read the books. It still got me to a movie theater. That's power. You never know where the stars come from. The highest compliment you can pay anybody in this frenetic distracted world entertainment, iPhones, tech talk everywhere, the greatest compliment you can get somebody me last night to sit down in front of a TV and watch something I don't normally watch. When I knew the outcome, I knew how it was gonna end. Caitlin Clark goes number one, and I recognized many of the top ten twelve picks. I'm not going to recognize many of the top twelve NBA draft picks. The NBA draft has become like the Oscars, a lot of stuff that won't get me to a theater. I'll take your word for it. Those foreign films are great. I don't know exactly why Caitlin Clark is this popular. I mean, she's great, there's so many great athletes, she's non controversial, she plays women's college basketball. But I think a lot of it is in a world where all these sports leagues are trying to siphon more money out of you. I mean, you watch the Yankees. They're on six different streaming services. This channel, that channel, this channel? Where's baseball? Where's the MLS? March Madness Iowa Hawkeyes, little flashy, likable player has really good range. She gives me what I know. I've said this about the NFL. It's the only league. I say, when do you watch the NFL? You not only give me the day Sunday, but you give me the times you watch it. Mission impossible, Tom Cruise, They're on their eighth Mission impossible. Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, March Madness numbers, NFL numbers up, all mostly domestic, all things we've watched for years. The crazier the world gets, the more global it gets. And I think the NBA has got more great players than ever globalization. Caitlan Clark is what you know, Iowa Little under Dog, March Madness, broadcast television mostly or cable. It's just fascinating to watch the things that get me to a TV in a theater. I know it's getting bigger out there, and the streaming services and I got to have this plus and that plus and that streaming and I find myself seeking simple, seeking, dependable, seeking traditional. And I'm watching last night and I'm like, oh, I know that player. I know that player, I know that program. I watched that program comfort Food. That was like comfort television last night. I'm busy, I'm distracted. I don't want to pay for another cable channel. I don't want to pay for another streaming service. March Madness ratings up, NFL ratings up. I mean, I'm trying to explain the unexplainable. Well, she's a really good player. Her ratings were bigger than everything except the NFL. Iowa Women's basketball dependable traditional, non confrontational, fun, easy to consume, likable, and I've seen it before. The Big Ten and March Madness got me to a television set last night. Here's Caitlin Clark after.

When you're kind of just sitting at a table waiting for your name to be called, I think that really allows the emotions to feed you, and you're with your family, Like obviously playing a basketball game, I'm not out there with my family. So sharing that moment with them and enjoying it and people that have really had my back and believed in me more than anyone is super special. You know, I'm twenty two years old and I don't have all the answers in the world. This is something new to me. This is a new challenge, and that's something I'm excited for.

When you're kind of just sitting at a table waiting for your name to be called, I think that really allows the emotions to feed you, and you're with your family, Like obviously playing a basketball game, I'm not out there with my family. So sharing that moment with them and enjoying it and people that have really had my back and believed in me more than anyone is super special. You know, I'm twenty two years old and I don't have all the answers in the world. This is something new to me. This is a new challenge, and that's something I'm excited for.

So I always try to find out and there's no You're always looking for a common thread in the NFL. How do you know what quarterback's going to hit? And so there was a story this morning that JJ McCarthy, the Michigan quarterback that scouts many agree that he is not a first round pick, but yet he may go in the top ten. I told her the first time I watched him, I thought Hammenegger's okay, it's Hardbott's Michigan, the old line, the run, game of the defense, I don't get it. And so there's a lot of different opinions right now on him, and so we're always trying to figure out, and so are NFL teams. What's the common thread? How do we predict to a higher level who's going to make it, who's not going to So I went to the last ten drafts, and there are twelve we can argue, but twelve quarterback hits in the last ten draft c J. Stroud and Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert Burrough, Lamar Jalen, Jordan Love, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Franchise guys, franchise guys. The school clearly doesn't matter because Josh Allen went to Wyoming, Jared Goff went to cal Jordan Love went to Utah State. I mean, Lamar Jackson went to Louisville. That's an okay program. So the school doesn't matter. Size is mostly overrated. Kyler Murray small, Josh Allen's a giant. You'd rather be bigger than smaller. But Lamar Jackson came in really spindily, and Josh Allen didn't, and Patrick Mahomes the greatest maybe ever is average size six to two. The franchise history can matter, but it doesn't matter that much. Trevor Lawrence got the Jags of the playoffs. Kyler Murray did the same to Arizona in the division with Pete Carroll, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, and Joe Burrow got the Bengals to a Super Bowl. So what over the last ten drafts of the twelve quarterback hits. Now, hit can be Mahomes, it can be Goff, A hit can be Josh Allen, it can be Kyler. But they're hits. They're franchise guys. The only criteria that I have found that I can depend on. It's one of two things that gives you a higher probability to be a franchise guy, a high end franchise guy. Number One, you either in college elevated an average or a weaker roster Lamar Jackson, Goff, Dak, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert had Pinasule at left tackle, but no other great NFL player on offense so seven eight of the guys elevated at the college level. They took a college roster that was okay, and they elevated it to a Rose Bowl, a big Bowl. Or the second criteria that becomes an NFL hit in the last decade, that you're on a stacked team, but you're insane productive. Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma fifty two total touchdowns is last year. Joe Burrows last year at LSU sixty five touchdowns. Kyler Murray Oklahoma fifty three hundred yards, fifty four touchdowns. So you're either one of two. You elevate an average college roster or a week one, or on a stacked roster you're superman. JJ McCarthy's neither. You had average stats on a stacked roster, he's neither. That's my issue. If you go to the last decade, we get about one point three quarterbacks per draft that hit. We have six, four for sure, maybe six first round quarterbacks. You gotta either show me in college that you took a Wyoming, a Texas Tech, a Mississippi State, an Oregon roster and took it to a different level a Rose Bowl, a big game. You took it to a different level, or you're on one of these traditionally stacked rosters at Oklahoma, Texas, Abama, Georgia, Michigan, but you put up crazy numbers. You jumped through the television set with JJ McCarthy, not the first one and not the second one. He had twenty four twenty five total touchdowns last year on a team that blew out a lot of people. He had one three hundred yard game. So when I pushed back on JJ McCarthy, I've been trying to figure out what is it. I mean, he's six y threes tall enough, he won a bunch of games, but he didn't elevate a team that had average players, and he didn't put up rip roaring, crazy productive numbers like all the other guys that are hits in the NFL. So his Michigan experience is not an NFL experience where you will go to a crappy team in the top ten and have to elevate an average roster. Or maybe you go to a stack roster on a great team in the NFL, but that's very rare. Most of those great teams already have great quarterbacks. So there's my answer. There's my answer on JJ McCarthy, Jason much higher on him than I am. That's okay. I'm a little higher on bow Nicks than everybody else. That's okay. But I think our biggest argument because you love all these new young NBA players, and although I do think the league is never been more talented, the team USA has finalized the roster for Paris.

So I always try to find out and there's no You're always looking for a common thread in the NFL. How do you know what quarterback's going to hit? And so there was a story this morning that JJ McCarthy, the Michigan quarterback that scouts many agree that he is not a first round pick, but yet he may go in the top ten. I told her the first time I watched him, I thought Hammenegger's okay, it's Hardbott's Michigan, the old line, the run, game of the defense, I don't get it. And so there's a lot of different opinions right now on him, and so we're always trying to figure out, and so are NFL teams. What's the common thread? How do we predict to a higher level who's going to make it, who's not going to So I went to the last ten drafts, and there are twelve we can argue, but twelve quarterback hits in the last ten draft c J. Stroud and Mahomes, Josh Allen, Herbert Burrough, Lamar Jalen, Jordan Love, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Franchise guys, franchise guys. The school clearly doesn't matter because Josh Allen went to Wyoming, Jared Goff went to cal Jordan Love went to Utah State. I mean, Lamar Jackson went to Louisville. That's an okay program. So the school doesn't matter. Size is mostly overrated. Kyler Murray small, Josh Allen's a giant. You'd rather be bigger than smaller. But Lamar Jackson came in really spindily, and Josh Allen didn't, and Patrick Mahomes the greatest maybe ever is average size six to two. The franchise history can matter, but it doesn't matter that much. Trevor Lawrence got the Jags of the playoffs. Kyler Murray did the same to Arizona in the division with Pete Carroll, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, and Joe Burrow got the Bengals to a Super Bowl. So what over the last ten drafts of the twelve quarterback hits. Now, hit can be Mahomes, it can be Goff, A hit can be Josh Allen, it can be Kyler. But they're hits. They're franchise guys. The only criteria that I have found that I can depend on. It's one of two things that gives you a higher probability to be a franchise guy, a high end franchise guy. Number One, you either in college elevated an average or a weaker roster Lamar Jackson, Goff, Dak, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert had Pinasule at left tackle, but no other great NFL player on offense so seven eight of the guys elevated at the college level. They took a college roster that was okay, and they elevated it to a Rose Bowl, a big Bowl. Or the second criteria that becomes an NFL hit in the last decade, that you're on a stacked team, but you're insane productive. Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma fifty two total touchdowns is last year. Joe Burrows last year at LSU sixty five touchdowns. Kyler Murray Oklahoma fifty three hundred yards, fifty four touchdowns. So you're either one of two. You elevate an average college roster or a week one, or on a stacked roster you're superman. JJ McCarthy's neither. You had average stats on a stacked roster, he's neither. That's my issue. If you go to the last decade, we get about one point three quarterbacks per draft that hit. We have six, four for sure, maybe six first round quarterbacks. You gotta either show me in college that you took a Wyoming, a Texas Tech, a Mississippi State, an Oregon roster and took it to a different level a Rose Bowl, a big game. You took it to a different level, or you're on one of these traditionally stacked rosters at Oklahoma, Texas, Abama, Georgia, Michigan, but you put up crazy numbers. You jumped through the television set with JJ McCarthy, not the first one and not the second one. He had twenty four twenty five total touchdowns last year on a team that blew out a lot of people. He had one three hundred yard game. So when I pushed back on JJ McCarthy, I've been trying to figure out what is it. I mean, he's six y threes tall enough, he won a bunch of games, but he didn't elevate a team that had average players, and he didn't put up rip roaring, crazy productive numbers like all the other guys that are hits in the NFL. So his Michigan experience is not an NFL experience where you will go to a crappy team in the top ten and have to elevate an average roster. Or maybe you go to a stack roster on a great team in the NFL, but that's very rare. Most of those great teams already have great quarterbacks. So there's my answer. There's my answer on JJ McCarthy, Jason much higher on him than I am. That's okay. I'm a little higher on bow Nicks than everybody else. That's okay. But I think our biggest argument because you love all these new young NBA players, and although I do think the league is never been more talented, the team USA has finalized the roster for Paris.

Stop it.

Stop it.

Thank god Lebron Stephen Kd showed up. Otherwise, what an indictment of AAU basketball You coming.

Thank god Lebron Stephen Kd showed up. Otherwise, what an indictment of AAU basketball You coming.

In hot on a dude, thinker. How many beverages did you have last night?

In hot on a dude, thinker. How many beverages did you have last night?

Not half of one beer? You are fired out to the WNBA draft.

Not half of one beer? You are fired out to the WNBA draft.

I'll say this, the JJ McCarthy take was a good one that made me think I did.

I'll say this, the JJ McCarthy take was a good one that made me think I did.

Not just like we saw him.

Not just like we saw him.

We watched him game manager, if you will, right it did which was asked of him, didn't make a lot of mistakes, very Alabama. Like I feel bad for pushing him as a top ten guy in like November.

We watched him game manager, if you will, right it did which was asked of him, didn't make a lot of mistakes, very Alabama. Like I feel bad for pushing him as a top ten guy in like November.

Well, he may still end up there.

Well, he may still end up there.

He's great value at like twenty two.

He's great value at like twenty two.

Great value.

Great value.

Imagine plug him into the Miami offense or or an off or the Minnesota offense and later in.

Imagine plug him into the Miami offense or or an off or the Minnesota offense and later in.

The first round.

The first round.

Yeah, but how about start for New England game one. Oh stop, come on, start for the Giants.

Yeah, but how about start for New England game one. Oh stop, come on, start for the Giants.

Come on.

Come on.

That's what everybody tells me that I mean. I went back, I went back to ten drafts and I found the twelve hips. And you may not like Kyler Murray, but if you can take Arizona and that circus of the playoffs in that division, you're a hit. So Dak Prescott, I may be critical, he won twelve games a year. Dak is a hit.

That's what everybody tells me that I mean. I went back, I went back to ten drafts and I found the twelve hips. And you may not like Kyler Murray, but if you can take Arizona and that circus of the playoffs in that division, you're a hit. So Dak Prescott, I may be critical, he won twelve games a year. Dak is a hit.

I think was it your buddy Schrager that had the Giants trading up for J. J.

I think was it your buddy Schrager that had the Giants trading up for J. J.

McCarthy or something like that in his mock draft. Somebody texted me something about trading.

McCarthy or something like that in his mock draft. Somebody texted me something about trading.

Up for him. Yeah, all right, I've got a lot of stuff today. I'll just I gotta have my say. Oh on the Paris Olympics.

Up for him. Yeah, all right, I've got a lot of stuff today. I'll just I gotta have my say. Oh on the Paris Olympics.

Were you gonna need an hour for that topic of load? Okay, it's gonna get heated because it's it's not a discussion the Dream Team would get. Are you talking about the competition for the ninety two Dream Team and go, I'm.

Were you gonna need an hour for that topic of load? Okay, it's gonna get heated because it's it's not a discussion the Dream Team would get. Are you talking about the competition for the ninety two Dream Team and go, I'm.

Talking about this team USA. If you took Lebron Stephan durantof.

Talking about this team USA. If you took Lebron Stephan durantof.

Why would you do that? Why din'd you take three off three of.

Why would you do that? Why din'd you take three off three of.

The top I don't know fifteen players in the history of the sport, why would you take them off the team?

The top I don't know fifteen players in the history of the sport, why would you take them off the team?

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I like new stuff, Jamack likes new stuff. I am a fan of trying to find the next cool thing. Not a big rearview mirror guy, marble windshield guy. That's fine, but not everything that's new is better. And we tend to over romanticize what life used to be. But boxing did used to be better a college basketball when a Tim Duncan would stay in school of Patrick Ewing for three or four years, men's college basketball was absolutely better, and so was our domestic product. In the NBA are domestic stars who went to high school and then college. Now it's au nonsense. So they announced the Team USA final roster. I think they have one more player to add. Take Lebron James and Steph Curry off this roster. Yikes. Bama to Bayou has once in his career averaged over twenty a game on the Dream Team. David Robinson averaged over twenty three without the benefit of a three point shot seven times. Look at the dream team. Let's make a comp here, Magic, MJ Byrd, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Ewing, Barkley Robinson. That team was so good. Reggie Miller didn't make it, Isaiah Thomas didn't make it. Dominiquld average twenty eight and a half the same year didn't make it. I got I can do it all. Charles Barkley score down, low perimeter transition, you get score only, Devin b. Kurt I get the greatest shooting guard ever. MJ. You get twenty two year old Aunt Robinson, I get two titles. David Robinson you get never made it past the second round. Joe lmbid I get killer instinct, Magic, and MJ. You get. Hey, you take the shot this time, Jason Tatum. This is an indictment of what's happening to our basketball culture. AAU, no hard high school coaching, maybe a G league, leave to make money, don't play in college basketball. Take out Stephen Lebron that era and it's ending. Think I'm wrong, go back. I get the greatest point guard ever and the greatest leader. MJ. You get Tyrese Haliburton a good player, but go back. The basketball culture in America is a mess. The AAU culture are domestic stars. The best players in this league are all international. Number one draft pick, probably a front shooting guard coming up. Probably I went to the Tokyo Olympics twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics. Look at the team USA basketball roster. No Lebron, no Steph Javal McGhee, Chris Middleton, Zach Levine, Kelden Johnson, Jeremy Grant. Nothing against those guys, but you take out the old school stars in the NBA right now, I'll throw in KD, Steph Lebron, Look at our team. That's what AAU Basketball's created. Not getting hard coaching in high school, not getting dependable coaching in high school, not going to college anymore. First great coaching you get is Offen, your second or third coach in the NBA, because all those top players go to bad teams that cycle through coaches. So I know everybody loves everybody loves the new stuff, and I mostly do. But that dream team would take this team. A part of the teams all players in their prime. This team is old Lebron or twenty two year olds. That team was twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine in their prime, championship players, best in the world ever at their position, wildly competitive. Didn't grow up with AU basketball. We have played sixteen games a weekend and it's not really about winning games. Those guys. You turn the lights off, You put a dream team guy in a room with the current guy here. Who's coming out? One guy comes out, one guy survives the AAU guy or MJ or Magic or Berkley or Malone or Stockton. I'm sorry, but I look at that. That is an indictment on what American basketball culture has become. Thank God for Stephan Lebron. Take him off that team. It's twenty two year olds. It's a bunch of kids. By the way, last five or six MVPs gonna be another one this year. Who are the MVP candidates this year? Luca Jokich SGA last year, mbid be honest, y'allo trend, y'allo trend going on. Lebron will be forty this summer. That's our team, USA Savior. Can you imagine if the NFL didn't have college football as a feeding system, had some sort of AU football thing and Tom Brady, not Mahomes, not Alan Lott. Tom Brady at forty four was our savior if we had Olympic football. I'm just saying, maybe I'm being old guy at the hardware store yelling I'll take that dream team twenty seven eight twenty nine year old competitive guys in their prime. Their practices have made documentaries. They do documentaries on like the Dream Team and how hard the practices were.

I like new stuff, Jamack likes new stuff. I am a fan of trying to find the next cool thing. Not a big rearview mirror guy, marble windshield guy. That's fine, but not everything that's new is better. And we tend to over romanticize what life used to be. But boxing did used to be better a college basketball when a Tim Duncan would stay in school of Patrick Ewing for three or four years, men's college basketball was absolutely better, and so was our domestic product. In the NBA are domestic stars who went to high school and then college. Now it's au nonsense. So they announced the Team USA final roster. I think they have one more player to add. Take Lebron James and Steph Curry off this roster. Yikes. Bama to Bayou has once in his career averaged over twenty a game on the Dream Team. David Robinson averaged over twenty three without the benefit of a three point shot seven times. Look at the dream team. Let's make a comp here, Magic, MJ Byrd, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Ewing, Barkley Robinson. That team was so good. Reggie Miller didn't make it, Isaiah Thomas didn't make it. Dominiquld average twenty eight and a half the same year didn't make it. I got I can do it all. Charles Barkley score down, low perimeter transition, you get score only, Devin b. Kurt I get the greatest shooting guard ever. MJ. You get twenty two year old Aunt Robinson, I get two titles. David Robinson you get never made it past the second round. Joe lmbid I get killer instinct, Magic, and MJ. You get. Hey, you take the shot this time, Jason Tatum. This is an indictment of what's happening to our basketball culture. AAU, no hard high school coaching, maybe a G league, leave to make money, don't play in college basketball. Take out Stephen Lebron that era and it's ending. Think I'm wrong, go back. I get the greatest point guard ever and the greatest leader. MJ. You get Tyrese Haliburton a good player, but go back. The basketball culture in America is a mess. The AAU culture are domestic stars. The best players in this league are all international. Number one draft pick, probably a front shooting guard coming up. Probably I went to the Tokyo Olympics twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics. Look at the team USA basketball roster. No Lebron, no Steph Javal McGhee, Chris Middleton, Zach Levine, Kelden Johnson, Jeremy Grant. Nothing against those guys, but you take out the old school stars in the NBA right now, I'll throw in KD, Steph Lebron, Look at our team. That's what AAU Basketball's created. Not getting hard coaching in high school, not getting dependable coaching in high school, not going to college anymore. First great coaching you get is Offen, your second or third coach in the NBA, because all those top players go to bad teams that cycle through coaches. So I know everybody loves everybody loves the new stuff, and I mostly do. But that dream team would take this team. A part of the teams all players in their prime. This team is old Lebron or twenty two year olds. That team was twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine in their prime, championship players, best in the world ever at their position, wildly competitive. Didn't grow up with AU basketball. We have played sixteen games a weekend and it's not really about winning games. Those guys. You turn the lights off, You put a dream team guy in a room with the current guy here. Who's coming out? One guy comes out, one guy survives the AAU guy or MJ or Magic or Berkley or Malone or Stockton. I'm sorry, but I look at that. That is an indictment on what American basketball culture has become. Thank God for Stephan Lebron. Take him off that team. It's twenty two year olds. It's a bunch of kids. By the way, last five or six MVPs gonna be another one this year. Who are the MVP candidates this year? Luca Jokich SGA last year, mbid be honest, y'allo trend, y'allo trend going on. Lebron will be forty this summer. That's our team, USA Savior. Can you imagine if the NFL didn't have college football as a feeding system, had some sort of AU football thing and Tom Brady, not Mahomes, not Alan Lott. Tom Brady at forty four was our savior if we had Olympic football. I'm just saying, maybe I'm being old guy at the hardware store yelling I'll take that dream team twenty seven eight twenty nine year old competitive guys in their prime. Their practices have made documentaries. They do documentaries on like the Dream Team and how hard the practices were.

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You said you were looking for a day off today. No, no, I.

You said you were looking for a day off today. No, no, I.

Just I have a buddy who how do I put this politely?

Just I have a buddy who how do I put this politely?

He is his own boss all the time, and you know he's like, day, Jay, do you want to go for a run this morning?

He is his own boss all the time, and you know he's like, day, Jay, do you want to go for a run this morning?

And I was like, I gotta go to work. You know, nice morning.

And I was like, I gotta go to work. You know, nice morning.

Does he get free smoothies at his work? Because I got a free smoothie.

Does he get free smoothies at his work? Because I got a free smoothie.

I don't think money's an object to him, but any of me. I like the spirited back and forth. We have fun here. You and I.

I don't think money's an object to him, but any of me. I like the spirited back and forth. We have fun here. You and I.

Yeah, the banter. I'm just saying, I tend to be with a dream Team. I tend to be new stuff is better, But I've been on this thing now for two or three years. AU basketball Steve kerr acknowledges it. It's not helping our domestic products.

Yeah, the banter. I'm just saying, I tend to be with a dream Team. I tend to be new stuff is better, But I've been on this thing now for two or three years. AU basketball Steve kerr acknowledges it. It's not helping our domestic products.

I don't disagree with that. I don't think anyone does.

I don't disagree with that. I don't think anyone does.

And if you take out, you know, guys that played on high school basketball teams, like Steph Curry and Lebron James, you take the out the old school guys. This is a this this parish team is an AAU team.

And if you take out, you know, guys that played on high school basketball teams, like Steph Curry and Lebron James, you take the out the old school guys. This is a this this parish team is an AAU team.

That's fine. But Kevin Durant, Lebron and Curry are on the team.

That's fine. But Kevin Durant, Lebron and Curry are on the team.

Yeah, but I'm saying take the old guys off. I mean, Lebron certainly didn't have to play. He's been talked into playing. He wants to sell shoes. I get why guys go to the Olympics.

Yeah, but I'm saying take the old guys off. I mean, Lebron certainly didn't have to play. He's been talked into playing. He wants to sell shoes. I get why guys go to the Olympics.

By the way, do you know that the Canadian basketball team has more NBA guys that were in the entire ninety two Olympics outside of the team USA.

By the way, do you know that the Canadian basketball team has more NBA guys that were in the entire ninety two Olympics outside of the team USA.

That's how stacked the world is now.

That's how stacked the world is now.

We can thank the ninety two Dream Team for that, but go look at the Canada roster.

We can thank the ninety two Dream Team for that, but go look at the Canada roster.

Eight NBA players on that team.

Eight NBA players on that team.

Yeah, I mean, the world is way better at basketball.

Yeah, I mean, the world is way better at basketball.

Go look at their player efficiency in the NBA and.

Go look at their player efficiency in the NBA and.

We're way worse. Well, it's it's convergence of things.

We're way worse. Well, it's it's convergence of things.

The league is better, way better America.

The league is better, way better America.

The younger American basketball players are taking longer to pop. It's not a great thing. But listen, capitalism, right, you have kids who play youth sports. When you can rent a gym and have games going around round the clock and make a lot of money, may do that. Why would you run a practice when you could play six games in a day.

The younger American basketball players are taking longer to pop. It's not a great thing. But listen, capitalism, right, you have kids who play youth sports. When you can rent a gym and have games going around round the clock and make a lot of money, may do that. Why would you run a practice when you could play six games in a day.

Oh, practice, practice doesn't mean anything, it does you know what it does in Lithuania, in Serbia. Yeah, by the way, that's those players come over here. They've been skilled, not just playing games with their buddies.

Oh, practice, practice doesn't mean anything, it does you know what it does in Lithuania, in Serbia. Yeah, by the way, that's those players come over here. They've been skilled, not just playing games with their buddies.

I don't disagree with any You.

I don't disagree with any You.

Make a lot of money with a you tony tracksuit makes a lot of money. Never get like real grown up coaching high school or college. You're up in the league.

Make a lot of money with a you tony tracksuit makes a lot of money. Never get like real grown up coaching high school or college. You're up in the league.

But what is the solution, Colin, Let's hear the solution. We know the problem.

But what is the solution, Colin, Let's hear the solution. We know the problem.

Fix it. Oh, I've got a lot of those. I don't have enough time. Oh yeah, Sarah, of course at home they call me mister solution.

Fix it. Oh, I've got a lot of those. I don't have enough time. Oh yeah, Sarah, of course at home they call me mister solution.

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Quarterback consultant the founder of the Quarterback Summit training Quarterback Draft Prospects since twenty fourteen. It's Jordan Palmer. He's worked with Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence, so you know a lot of this stuff. I was saying about JJ McCarthy that if you look at the last ten drafts, we have twelve quarterbacks that I would view as a substantial hit. The higher end is Mahomes, the lower end could be maybe a Dak but sil very very good player. A hit, and the only common thread it's not the school they went to, it's not the size. The common hit is they came out and they did one of two things in college. They either elevated pretty average teammates or they were on a stack roster and put up cartoon numbers. Hertz Kyler Burrow with JJ McCarthy, he got the stacked roster and wasn't wildly productive. And that worries me a little when I go back to the last ten drafts, is that, you know, Burrow out of stack roster. He got sixty five touchdowns, which in the SEC doesn't even make sense. It's like a video game. Should I be a little concerned that they didn't ask him to kind of carry him And in the NFL, I mean, Jordan, that's kind of the game for a young quarterback, isn't it.

Quarterback consultant the founder of the Quarterback Summit training Quarterback Draft Prospects since twenty fourteen. It's Jordan Palmer. He's worked with Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence, so you know a lot of this stuff. I was saying about JJ McCarthy that if you look at the last ten drafts, we have twelve quarterbacks that I would view as a substantial hit. The higher end is Mahomes, the lower end could be maybe a Dak but sil very very good player. A hit, and the only common thread it's not the school they went to, it's not the size. The common hit is they came out and they did one of two things in college. They either elevated pretty average teammates or they were on a stack roster and put up cartoon numbers. Hertz Kyler Burrow with JJ McCarthy, he got the stacked roster and wasn't wildly productive. And that worries me a little when I go back to the last ten drafts, is that, you know, Burrow out of stack roster. He got sixty five touchdowns, which in the SEC doesn't even make sense. It's like a video game. Should I be a little concerned that they didn't ask him to kind of carry him And in the NFL, I mean, Jordan, that's kind of the game for a young quarterback, isn't it.

Yeah, it really is.

Yeah, it really is.

And I think what I'm about to say has nothing to do with JJ. It's not his fault. In fact, he's the defending national champion and just went fifteen to zero. But you know, before each game at Michigan, when you know Harvo's hitting his pads and all that stuff in pregame, there was an understanding that they were going to rush for twohundred fifty yards and that the defense wasn't going to stop them on the ground. And this is not his fault, right, He's part of a great organization. He was a big part of that run game. There's a lot of run checks that fall on him. There's his threat as a runner that creates advantages for Blake Korham and other runners. So it's actually he's a part of why it happened. I wouldn't fault somebody on not having the video game numbers if they weren't asked to. Now, had we seen games where they asked him to throw it forty times and he just completed half of them and threw two picks, then that'd be different. That never happened. And so unfortunately, when you're drafting anybody at the top, you have to make assumptions because we don't have we can't see how they were in the NFL. Different than a free agency. We can literally look at how you stack up against NFL defenses. We can't do that in the draft. That's why it's an imperfect science. I heard some stat that forty four percent I think of. This might be wrong in fact check me, but it was forty four percent. I think of, like the last top ten picks in the last ten years didn't pan out, So whatever that stat is where you go, oh man, there's a lot of us. It's because people are making assumptions. And the biggest assumption that needs to be made with JJ is that in all fifteen of those games, they knew they were going to run the ball right down their opponent's throat. And in the NFL, depending on your situation, there are a quarterback who start every game of the season and they don't know until the second quarter if the run game is gonna work today. And that's not an overexaggeration, And so how you have to win in the league. We all say third down is the most important down in football and all that, I agree, but you're just not gonna know. Lamar Jackson this next season will not know beyond a shadow of it out that the run game is gonna work every single week like in warmups.

And I think what I'm about to say has nothing to do with JJ. It's not his fault. In fact, he's the defending national champion and just went fifteen to zero. But you know, before each game at Michigan, when you know Harvo's hitting his pads and all that stuff in pregame, there was an understanding that they were going to rush for twohundred fifty yards and that the defense wasn't going to stop them on the ground. And this is not his fault, right, He's part of a great organization. He was a big part of that run game. There's a lot of run checks that fall on him. There's his threat as a runner that creates advantages for Blake Korham and other runners. So it's actually he's a part of why it happened. I wouldn't fault somebody on not having the video game numbers if they weren't asked to. Now, had we seen games where they asked him to throw it forty times and he just completed half of them and threw two picks, then that'd be different. That never happened. And so unfortunately, when you're drafting anybody at the top, you have to make assumptions because we don't have we can't see how they were in the NFL. Different than a free agency. We can literally look at how you stack up against NFL defenses. We can't do that in the draft. That's why it's an imperfect science. I heard some stat that forty four percent I think of. This might be wrong in fact check me, but it was forty four percent. I think of, like the last top ten picks in the last ten years didn't pan out, So whatever that stat is where you go, oh man, there's a lot of us. It's because people are making assumptions. And the biggest assumption that needs to be made with JJ is that in all fifteen of those games, they knew they were going to run the ball right down their opponent's throat. And in the NFL, depending on your situation, there are a quarterback who start every game of the season and they don't know until the second quarter if the run game is gonna work today. And that's not an overexaggeration, And so how you have to win in the league. We all say third down is the most important down in football and all that, I agree, but you're just not gonna know. Lamar Jackson this next season will not know beyond a shadow of it out that the run game is gonna work every single week like in warmups.

He won't.

He won't.

And that's we'd all argue is the best run game in the league. And so that's the big hurdle. We know how he can play against competition because he won a national title and he played in the Big Ten and you know, and it has played at a really high level consistently since he stepped foot on campus.

And that's we'd all argue is the best run game in the league. And so that's the big hurdle. We know how he can play against competition because he won a national title and he played in the Big Ten and you know, and it has played at a really high level consistently since he stepped foot on campus.

But that's the biggest assumption that teams.

But that's the biggest assumption that teams.

Whoever's gonna draft, you know, trade up or take him, is making an assumption that this guy can play if the game's on his shoulders to win it in the air.

Whoever's gonna draft, you know, trade up or take him, is making an assumption that this guy can play if the game's on his shoulders to win it in the air.

So the acc is has been down for several years, and Drake May was really inconsistent in that very average conference, whereas a bow Nicks and a Michael Pennix were wildly consistent in maybe the best PAC twelve I've seen in fifteen years. And so I look at Drake Man, I'm like, man, even in his pro day, I'm like, should I be worried about that? Or is he just a developing player with great traits who will figure it out? What? What do you think?

So the acc is has been down for several years, and Drake May was really inconsistent in that very average conference, whereas a bow Nicks and a Michael Pennix were wildly consistent in maybe the best PAC twelve I've seen in fifteen years. And so I look at Drake Man, I'm like, man, even in his pro day, I'm like, should I be worried about that? Or is he just a developing player with great traits who will figure it out? What? What do you think?

Jordan?

Jordan?

Every single guy that we're going to talk about today and fast forward the last years of you and I talking about the draft picks is a developmental guy.

Every single guy that we're going to talk about today and fast forward the last years of you and I talking about the draft picks is a developmental guy.

Kiboy is the developmental guy.

Kiboy is the developmental guy.

These guys are transitioning from i'll put air quotes amateur to professional football. It's a new it's a new sport. There's different rules, there's different things on the line. You're asked to do things different. Your week is different. I literally in my pitch deck when I if I sit down and pitch a guy for draft prop, I literally have all the things that are new. You know, new coverage is new team, new city, new responsibility. There's a lot of newness that comes before I dive into this. They're all in a developmental stage and nobody's a finished product. But what I would say with Drake is, for me, this is one hundred percent a when, not an if. He is absolutely I think has all of the physical and then the mental, his emotional makeup.

These guys are transitioning from i'll put air quotes amateur to professional football. It's a new it's a new sport. There's different rules, there's different things on the line. You're asked to do things different. Your week is different. I literally in my pitch deck when I if I sit down and pitch a guy for draft prop, I literally have all the things that are new. You know, new coverage is new team, new city, new responsibility. There's a lot of newness that comes before I dive into this. They're all in a developmental stage and nobody's a finished product. But what I would say with Drake is, for me, this is one hundred percent a when, not an if. He is absolutely I think has all of the physical and then the mental, his emotional makeup.

He's you.

He's you.

If you get a chance to spend time with this guy called you are going to he's gonna be one.

If you get a chance to spend time with this guy called you are going to he's gonna be one.

Of my favorite guys.

Of my favorite guys.

Just knowing you and knowing how you know what you like and don't like, and some of the players that you like that other people don't.

Just knowing you and knowing how you know what you like and don't like, and some of the players that you like that other people don't.

You would love this dude.

You would love this dude.

He's very Philip rivers in the room, great energy, great aura around him. Now on the physical side, mechanics, I do think there's things to clean up. There's guy, there's things on in Caleb and other people's games as well. So this is one hundred percent. The fit is he asked to start right away in a terrible situation. I think it could go poorly.

He's very Philip rivers in the room, great energy, great aura around him. Now on the physical side, mechanics, I do think there's things to clean up. There's guy, there's things on in Caleb and other people's games as well. So this is one hundred percent. The fit is he asked to start right away in a terrible situation. I think it could go poorly.

This first year. Yeah, is he able to learn?

This first year. Yeah, is he able to learn?

And I know we all want to say that I want to sit and learn, but is this guy able to really truly develop?

And I know we all want to say that I want to sit and learn, but is this guy able to really truly develop?

Is there a developmental plan in place for him? Uh?

Is there a developmental plan in place for him? Uh?

And the majority of throws that quarterbacks make are uncontested. So think about it like this. In basketball, there's really three types of shots. There's an uncontested shot, you come off the screen, you're wide open, you shoot it. There's a contested shot, right you gotta go somebody's hand in your face, and then you turn a contested shot into an uncontested shot. So that's what a step back is. That's what a fadeaway is. I think it's the same thing for quarterbacks. You drop back, quick game, bubble screens, clean pocket, that's an uncontested throw. Now, every quarterback also has to make a determination that they're willing to step into a throw and they know they're gonna get hit.

And the majority of throws that quarterbacks make are uncontested. So think about it like this. In basketball, there's really three types of shots. There's an uncontested shot, you come off the screen, you're wide open, you shoot it. There's a contested shot, right you gotta go somebody's hand in your face, and then you turn a contested shot into an uncontested shot. So that's what a step back is. That's what a fadeaway is. I think it's the same thing for quarterbacks. You drop back, quick game, bubble screens, clean pocket, that's an uncontested throw. Now, every quarterback also has to make a determination that they're willing to step into a throw and they know they're gonna get hit.

Guys that we're gonna talk about today are all past that.

Guys that we're gonna talk about today are all past that.

And then there's the subtle movements where you turn an uncontested throw into or i'm sorry, a contested throat into an uncontested throw. And when guys are inconsistent in their movements. That's where a lot of misses happen on some really good players on Sundays even And I have a lot of inbound clients right now, guys who play on Sundays because of that methodology and that idea that how do I turn every throw into an uncontested one and how do I make sure that I repeat those patterns? For me, it's a matter of time with Drake, and so he's able to do that consistently, and when he does, he's got so much of the other stuff that somebody's definitely gonna find their franchise guy in Drake may So.

And then there's the subtle movements where you turn an uncontested throw into or i'm sorry, a contested throat into an uncontested throw. And when guys are inconsistent in their movements. That's where a lot of misses happen on some really good players on Sundays even And I have a lot of inbound clients right now, guys who play on Sundays because of that methodology and that idea that how do I turn every throw into an uncontested one and how do I make sure that I repeat those patterns? For me, it's a matter of time with Drake, and so he's able to do that consistently, and when he does, he's got so much of the other stuff that somebody's definitely gonna find their franchise guy in Drake may So.

One of the criticisms I've heard with Michael Pennix, and I understand your last game gets magnified, but people said, yeah, we liked him. But when he faced Michigan and I think time out, they had eighteen pros, Washington had six. Let's slow down. Michigan was way better and Washington was good, but they didn't have the same number of athletes. The second thing I hear is, well, you know you can take he doesn't throw the ball well underneath. And my take is, I'd rather have a guy that can throw a deep ball. I'll teach the drag route too. If you can't throw it deep in quindy weather, Tua, I'm not getting it from you. So the Pinnick stuff sometimes I'm like, boy, are we just crushing the kid? On losing the Michigan Ohio State CJ. Stroud didn't beat Michigan. What are we talking about? Where do you land on Panics as a prospect.

One of the criticisms I've heard with Michael Pennix, and I understand your last game gets magnified, but people said, yeah, we liked him. But when he faced Michigan and I think time out, they had eighteen pros, Washington had six. Let's slow down. Michigan was way better and Washington was good, but they didn't have the same number of athletes. The second thing I hear is, well, you know you can take he doesn't throw the ball well underneath. And my take is, I'd rather have a guy that can throw a deep ball. I'll teach the drag route too. If you can't throw it deep in quindy weather, Tua, I'm not getting it from you. So the Pinnick stuff sometimes I'm like, boy, are we just crushing the kid? On losing the Michigan Ohio State CJ. Stroud didn't beat Michigan. What are we talking about? Where do you land on Panics as a prospect.

I really like Penix's game. One of the things you'll hear consistently is I go around to do pro day's and talk to coaches. It's pretty unanimous that he's got unique arm talent and unique in terms of the best or the second best in this class, one of the best in a lot of classes.

I really like Penix's game. One of the things you'll hear consistently is I go around to do pro day's and talk to coaches. It's pretty unanimous that he's got unique arm talent and unique in terms of the best or the second best in this class, one of the best in a lot of classes.

It just looks different coming out of his hand.

It just looks different coming out of his hand.

It does, and you're spot on.

It does, and you're spot on.

I mean the amount of times that they push the ball down the field.

I mean the amount of times that they push the ball down the field.

Now, I will say Oregon and Washington did a fantastic job from a schematic standpoint, Yeah, of number one or number two in the progression being open a lot, you can't fault the quarterback on that. Yeah, But they when you look at bo Nix's completion percentage, that the numbers that both of them put up number one and number two. These wheel routes, these sale routes, these fades, these slot fades. These were highly thrown balls. But I don't care if you're throwing to Rome, you know, a duneesa or not. The ball sitting these guys in the face and it's right on the money. I love Penix's game. The only real question marks, and I'm not in a position to have an answer on it, is you know, he's had multiple injuries, but then he went and played two healthy seasons, and so I think that's the biggest thing that teams are gonna go through is the age the injuries.

Now, I will say Oregon and Washington did a fantastic job from a schematic standpoint, Yeah, of number one or number two in the progression being open a lot, you can't fault the quarterback on that. Yeah, But they when you look at bo Nix's completion percentage, that the numbers that both of them put up number one and number two. These wheel routes, these sale routes, these fades, these slot fades. These were highly thrown balls. But I don't care if you're throwing to Rome, you know, a duneesa or not. The ball sitting these guys in the face and it's right on the money. I love Penix's game. The only real question marks, and I'm not in a position to have an answer on it, is you know, he's had multiple injuries, but then he went and played two healthy seasons, and so I think that's the biggest thing that teams are gonna go through is the age the injuries.

Now, injuries your.

Now, injuries your.

Last two seasons is very different than injuries before two healthy seasons. Yeah, but it's still going to be factored in. But number one at number two in Washington and Oregon's offense, they did a fantastic job of scheming those guys open. But it's not a knock on Michael Pennock Junior because he still delivered the ball accurately. And in terms of losing to Michigan, one of the things you get when you're at Michigan and you enter the playoffs is you've already played a game that's the same magnitude as a playoff game. That Michigan Ohio State game is damn near a playoff game. It's the same atmosphere, it's the same prep, it's the same pressure. Losing to Ohio State when you're Michigan or vice versa is kind of like getting knocked out of the playoffs the first round.

Last two seasons is very different than injuries before two healthy seasons. Yeah, but it's still going to be factored in. But number one at number two in Washington and Oregon's offense, they did a fantastic job of scheming those guys open. But it's not a knock on Michael Pennock Junior because he still delivered the ball accurately. And in terms of losing to Michigan, one of the things you get when you're at Michigan and you enter the playoffs is you've already played a game that's the same magnitude as a playoff game. That Michigan Ohio State game is damn near a playoff game. It's the same atmosphere, it's the same prep, it's the same pressure. Losing to Ohio State when you're Michigan or vice versa is kind of like getting knocked out of the playoffs the first round.

So there's the same amount on the line.

So there's the same amount on the line.

So I just look at an organization in Michigan who had an extra game of that magnitude as good as Washington Oregon.

So I just look at an organization in Michigan who had an extra game of that magnitude as good as Washington Oregon.

Was when they played each other this year, it wasn't the same magnitude.

Was when they played each other this year, it wasn't the same magnitude.

Finally, and we're listening. You're listening on radio to Jordan Palmer, a founder of Quarterback Summit, that it really is the go to place in America if you're a quarterback, that the teaching is remarkable. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and we've leaned on him for years. So now, and I'm going to go back years ago, I had the great honor to interview on the air a president, President Obama, and I remember asking him a question. I said, you're the first president who was dealt with social media and the vulgarity and the vile nature of it, And I just asked, what is that like you, Jimmy, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, nobody dealt with that nonsense. And we talked about that, and I always think about this, The first to deal with anything is different. Caleb Williams is twenty one, twenty twenty three years old. He's the first NIL superstar. He's the first five million dollar college athlete. And I'm like, I did he show some personality? Did he? I mean, in college I was scrambling for a five dollar bill to by pizza. He's making millions of dollars on things, and so some of the criticisms are he's kind of got an edge, he's kind of cocky, And I'm like, well, if I was twenty two and had four million dollars from United Airlines, and do you look at that? Some of the players in Caleb Williams of criticisms, he's very emotional, got a little attitude. Do you just think that's who he is? Does NIL account for that? What do you make of those criticisms.

Finally, and we're listening. You're listening on radio to Jordan Palmer, a founder of Quarterback Summit, that it really is the go to place in America if you're a quarterback, that the teaching is remarkable. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and we've leaned on him for years. So now, and I'm going to go back years ago, I had the great honor to interview on the air a president, President Obama, and I remember asking him a question. I said, you're the first president who was dealt with social media and the vulgarity and the vile nature of it, And I just asked, what is that like you, Jimmy, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, nobody dealt with that nonsense. And we talked about that, and I always think about this, The first to deal with anything is different. Caleb Williams is twenty one, twenty twenty three years old. He's the first NIL superstar. He's the first five million dollar college athlete. And I'm like, I did he show some personality? Did he? I mean, in college I was scrambling for a five dollar bill to by pizza. He's making millions of dollars on things, and so some of the criticisms are he's kind of got an edge, he's kind of cocky, And I'm like, well, if I was twenty two and had four million dollars from United Airlines, and do you look at that? Some of the players in Caleb Williams of criticisms, he's very emotional, got a little attitude. Do you just think that's who he is? Does NIL account for that? What do you make of those criticisms.

I don't make anything of the criticisms because it's really just people's opinions and the word the definition of the word opinion is a factor information about somebody, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge, right. I actually talk at my QB summit camps a lot about this concept of fear of other people's opinions and what we can do with it. I just think Caleb's built to handle it and actually steps into it.

I don't make anything of the criticisms because it's really just people's opinions and the word the definition of the word opinion is a factor information about somebody, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge, right. I actually talk at my QB summit camps a lot about this concept of fear of other people's opinions and what we can do with it. I just think Caleb's built to handle it and actually steps into it.

Been around him since high school.

Been around him since high school.

When you're the number one recruit in the country and the Elite eleven MVP, choosing which school you want to go to, and all the hype, that actually does prepare you for stardom. And when you're in high school I think I've talked about this with you before, and you go to a seven on seven tournament and you're the number one kid. Everybody's like trying to pick you off, and when they do, it's going to go on social media. So at sixteen seventeen, it really prepares you for the stardom of being the face not of USC but the face of college football, which is what he was for the last two years, and not the first quarterback to be the face of college football.

When you're the number one recruit in the country and the Elite eleven MVP, choosing which school you want to go to, and all the hype, that actually does prepare you for stardom. And when you're in high school I think I've talked about this with you before, and you go to a seven on seven tournament and you're the number one kid. Everybody's like trying to pick you off, and when they do, it's going to go on social media. So at sixteen seventeen, it really prepares you for the stardom of being the face not of USC but the face of college football, which is what he was for the last two years, and not the first quarterback to be the face of college football.

But it prepares you for that.

But it prepares you for that.

And then if you look at the money that he's made, whatever that actual number is, and the pressure of winning a Heisman and coming back the next year even though your team's not that great and it's really hard to repeat, and you know, they didn't win the conference, and it wasn't all. It's not like he just went undefeated and won the championships both years.

And then if you look at the money that he's made, whatever that actual number is, and the pressure of winning a Heisman and coming back the next year even though your team's not that great and it's really hard to repeat, and you know, they didn't win the conference, and it wasn't all. It's not like he just went undefeated and won the championships both years.

There was there was some failure.

There was there was some failure.

There was some they didn't win these games, they couldn't beat Utah there So he had to deal with success and adversity. And there might be things that he's done that people don't like. They may not mack the nail polish or the phone or whatever. But I think these things are irrelevant because what you really want is somebody who can step in to the arena that is number one pick, franchise quarterback and all the scrutiny and all the love and all the attention that comes with it, who actually wants it and actually can welcome it and has a process in a couple of years of dealing with it. The concern when you take somebody from a small school from a one year in the you know, in college football, which we've seen we've seen Mitch Trubisky only start twelve or thirteen games. Anthony Richardson didn't start a ton of games. We've seen a lot of guys. Look at the way that it's played out with Trey Lance right, small school, not a lot of games. You're assuming they can take on all this other stuff that comes with the position. And I think with Caleb, the magnitude of his brand going back to high school and how he's handled it every single year, I think the Bears, if they take him at one, are going to know exactly what they're going to get. And I went I was a Bear and I went to the Bears from Jacksonville and it went from being three people interviewing you to two hundred people in the room. And I couldn't believe that those two teams are in the same league. It was such a different experience. Yeah, I'm not exaggerating. I think Caleb, uniquely, more so than most of these guys in the last few years, is built to handle that. That's the crown coming off like he's ready to handle it.

There was some they didn't win these games, they couldn't beat Utah there So he had to deal with success and adversity. And there might be things that he's done that people don't like. They may not mack the nail polish or the phone or whatever. But I think these things are irrelevant because what you really want is somebody who can step in to the arena that is number one pick, franchise quarterback and all the scrutiny and all the love and all the attention that comes with it, who actually wants it and actually can welcome it and has a process in a couple of years of dealing with it. The concern when you take somebody from a small school from a one year in the you know, in college football, which we've seen we've seen Mitch Trubisky only start twelve or thirteen games. Anthony Richardson didn't start a ton of games. We've seen a lot of guys. Look at the way that it's played out with Trey Lance right, small school, not a lot of games. You're assuming they can take on all this other stuff that comes with the position. And I think with Caleb, the magnitude of his brand going back to high school and how he's handled it every single year, I think the Bears, if they take him at one, are going to know exactly what they're going to get. And I went I was a Bear and I went to the Bears from Jacksonville and it went from being three people interviewing you to two hundred people in the room. And I couldn't believe that those two teams are in the same league. It was such a different experience. Yeah, I'm not exaggerating. I think Caleb, uniquely, more so than most of these guys in the last few years, is built to handle that. That's the crown coming off like he's ready to handle it.

And the Bears are going to know.

And the Bears are going to know.

That you're so good at what you do. Quarterback Consultant, Quarterback Summit Training, Draft Prospects for now a decade of doing it, and that's a that is a golf simulator in front of him, so if you think he's somewhere in the country where it's dusk, it's not. It's just a golf simulator part of some company. You're part of. What's that company again?

That you're so good at what you do. Quarterback Consultant, Quarterback Summit Training, Draft Prospects for now a decade of doing it, and that's a that is a golf simulator in front of him, so if you think he's somewhere in the country where it's dusk, it's not. It's just a golf simulator part of some company. You're part of. What's that company again?

Yeah, Full Swing golf simulators, best in the business.

Yeah, Full Swing golf simulators, best in the business.

There you go, good, see him, my man as always great work. I mean, Jordan Palmer, that's a great way of putting it. Like he is some guy like that. You take these small like Carson Wentz was a small school guy. You got him to Philadelphia, which is loudest city in the country, and it's eight hundred people at every press cart, and it was like, whoa, whoa. It's a lot to deal with. Some people are you know? And here was Carson West, small town guy, liked hunting fish. All of a sudden, Philadelphia media is just coming fangs, They're coming after you. Jmax used to be in that Philadelphia media. These are not good people.

There you go, good, see him, my man as always great work. I mean, Jordan Palmer, that's a great way of putting it. Like he is some guy like that. You take these small like Carson Wentz was a small school guy. You got him to Philadelphia, which is loudest city in the country, and it's eight hundred people at every press cart, and it was like, whoa, whoa. It's a lot to deal with. Some people are you know? And here was Carson West, small town guy, liked hunting fish. All of a sudden, Philadelphia media is just coming fangs, They're coming after you. Jmax used to be in that Philadelphia media. These are not good people.

I was in the burbs.

I was in the burbs.

I was part of the Philadelphia media enough that I got to play in a pickup media game at the Sixers whatever it's called Speca.

I was part of the Philadelphia media enough that I got to play in a pickup media game at the Sixers whatever it's called Speca.

But it's a different ballgame. Carson went a small town.

But it's a different ballgame. Carson went a small town.

To that he could not handle it. It's okay to say that, like, you know, he wasn't.

To that he could not handle it. It's okay to say that, like, you know, he wasn't.

Ready for it. Rock purty San Francisco media is ready for it. Bring it out, Cauld.

Ready for it. Rock purty San Francisco media is ready for it. Bring it out, Cauld.

You say it something nice about rock party.

You say it something nice about rock party.

Wow,

Wow,