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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher on Fox Sports Radio.

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Here we go loaded, ready to roll live in Los Angeles, Hits the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening, Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmak, I've got an interesting lead today. There are things that I talked about this all week long outside of the NFL, All Sports or seconds and that you know, the Dodgers get show Heyo Ton and it literally helped the entire league revenue sharing. Fox ratings were up Showy Tawy just driving up I five Angels to Dodgers help the league. NFL doesn't matter who ends up. But there's been a lot of talk about the NBA and they need a face of the league. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. The only thing more overrated than face of the league is people that buy gigantic houses and they spend their next seven years yelling at their kids upstairs in the twenty seven thousand square foot house. Whenever I see these rich people buy these huge houses, I'm like, you can't possibly have kids, you screaming constantly to find them. Smaller the house, the more the love in the house. You're around each other, right, And I've always had this feeling about face of the league. The NBA's had three all time. No, no, you think they've had eight ten. Wilt wasn't the face of the league. He was flaky and weird. Kareem was the best player for over a decade. Stoic. I mean, you watch the HBO series on Kareem that was very accurate. He was difficult to get along with, and Magic Johnson gets along with everybody the league has had. There's a story this morning. Jason Tatum gets glossed over or ignored when observers consider face of the league. Hell, he wasn't face of the Celtics in the finals. Jalen Brown was Marcus Smart two years earlier was taking the ball from him. There's something about movie stars. Tom Cruise is a movie star John Malkovic is a great actor. Denzel Washington, that's a movie star. Jeremy Irons, you could argue maybe a better actor. Some would say maybe not, but there's a cool and a charisma. Tatum's excellent. He's not in the same zip code as cool Zion had a chance to be face of the league, but he ate himself out of playing time. John Morant maybe had a chance. He wasn't mature enough. There's been three faces of the league. And I've been watching this league since I was on a bunk bed in nineteen seventy two watching Wilton the Lakers, Old Wilt with a head band, Jerry West, Gail Goodrich. Yes, yes, that's why I got this gray hair. I've watched a lot of NBA in the seventies. The rest of you collected baseball cards. I collected NBA cards. Three faces of the league, Magic, Michael, and Lebron and that is it. Well, what about Kobe Bryant. He wasn't as popular as Shaq. People worship Kobe's talent, people liked Shaq. What about Steph Curry? He's close, but you can have one face of the league. And in his prime, Lebron was in his prime, and Steph's never really sold shoes. And by the way, you generally have to be the best player on your own team. For several years with KD, he wasn't. And I'm a huge Steph fan. So there's a couple of factors that are really important. First of all, and this is why Steph is close. You have to have an other worldly talent. We've never seen anything like Magic Johnson, the smile, the passes. He was a six to nine point guard. Against the Sixers in the finals, he played center and scored forty two points. Michael Jordan greatest player ever. I mean, nobody played like Michael. You never seen anything like Michael. And Lebron James again walked into the league. The first night of the NBA out of high school. He scored twenty points. He was scoring forty later that year. So you have to have other worldly talent. You also have to want it. Michael, Magic and Lebron are outstanding business guys. They read the business page before they read the sports page. And number three, it really helps if we're introduced to you early. We're watching Michael Jordan as a freshman at North Carolina. Who is this kid We're watching Magic Johnson, winn A Natty over Larry Bird National Championship, jud Heathcote, the Spartans, who's this kid? All all the crazy pass and Lebron James in high school, the chosen one. This is where this is where like Tim Duncan was good enough but boring, Kareem was great enough, but stoic Kobe, little moody, little difficult Shack was more liked. But it really helps if we're introduced to you early. And that's where it hurts the international guys, none of it. I mean, I'm not sitting watching the Lithuanian basketball on YouTube. Maybe you are, most people are not. And that's why Zion had a chance. His YouTube stuff blew up in his crazy dunks and then he goes to Duke and then there's the shoe deal where it explodes and it's Nike and you're like, okay, here it goes. And he got a taste of that Jumble eye and that New Orleans food which I had for a week, and you know, he went a little sideways, a lot of sideways. So international guys sort of get dropped onto bad teams and then you look up three years later, with Jannis and go whoo, that guy's amazing. We like the journey in America. We love the journey. We want to be introduced to you the movie Air with Michael Jordan. We want to see a struggle. I mean Magic Johnson, the personal stuff HIV. We've seen Magic's journey. We love Magic. If you're at a Laker game, and this is the craziest thing, Magic's everywhere in Los Angeles. If you're at a Laker game and Magic Johnson walks into the arena, I am not joking, the crowd stands. It's insane. It's like he's all over town. You see see him driving around town. Kareem walks into the arena arguably a greater player. Nobody gets up. He's an intellect. He's fascinating. I have tons of respect for him. He was the best player when I was a kid. Better than Wilt for sure, greater offensive player than Russell, who I didn't see play live. But there is a charisma and a star power Jalen Brown, isn't it. Nobody's overlooking Jalen Brown. The only guy that's got an argument to me, a real argument, is Steph Curry. But there's one face of the league. And in his prime, Lebron was in his prime, and so and I don't think. I don't think sports need to have a face of the league. I mean, oh, Tawny is the face of baseball with Aaron Judge. Both appear to be great guys. One in New York, one in LA. Do you have to have one? I mean to me, in baseball, it's more about what teams are winning. If the Yankees are winning, if the Dodgers are winning, Atlanta Cubs viable, maybe the Mets baseball's fine. Philly's help as well, and that's why they're good. But this talk about face of the league, there's been three in my lifetime. It's not just about productivity. Or Jeremy Irons would be the face of Hollywood. Denzel's been that, Tom Hanks has been that, Tom Cruise has been that. There's there's a there's a there's a formula for all this stuff. And that's why it's so damn hard. Some of the guys don't want it. I'm not sure Wemby wants it. I think Aunt, by the way, if Aunt played in Los Angeles, I think you'd have a shot. If Wemby was in New York International. Maybe a shot, but there's a lot of components to this stuff. And I don't think Jason Tatum and this is not disrespectful to his game. But when I watched the finals, I mean they ship Marcus Smart out of town a defensive guard, because he was taking the ball out of Jason Tatum's hands. Nobody took it out of Lebron's hands, including Kyrie Irving and d Wade. Nobody took the ball out of Michael's hands, and Kareem, you run the show. There is an alpha, there is a formula. Jason Tatum's a great player, but he's closer to Duncan in personality than Magic. Just think about this. Close your eyes unless you're driving and listening on radio. Let's close our eyes, close our eyes. Think about Magic Johnson. You can see the smile. Think about Michael. You can see that cocky grin. Think about Lebron. You can see the imagery, pregame chock. You can close your eyes and there's images with stars. Close your eyes now and do it with Tatum. I don't see anything. Twenty six a night, I don't see anything. Close your eyes and do it with Duncan. You see a rebound. I'm not being harsh here. I can close my eyes and I see Magic Johnson's smile and laugh. I see Michael Jordan in the documentary. He see his intensity, his brooding intensity, but his likability. Lebron James say.

Here we go loaded, ready to roll live in Los Angeles, Hits the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening, Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmak, I've got an interesting lead today. There are things that I talked about this all week long outside of the NFL, All Sports or seconds and that you know, the Dodgers get show Heyo Ton and it literally helped the entire league revenue sharing. Fox ratings were up Showy Tawy just driving up I five Angels to Dodgers help the league. NFL doesn't matter who ends up. But there's been a lot of talk about the NBA and they need a face of the league. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. The only thing more overrated than face of the league is people that buy gigantic houses and they spend their next seven years yelling at their kids upstairs in the twenty seven thousand square foot house. Whenever I see these rich people buy these huge houses, I'm like, you can't possibly have kids, you screaming constantly to find them. Smaller the house, the more the love in the house. You're around each other, right, And I've always had this feeling about face of the league. The NBA's had three all time. No, no, you think they've had eight ten. Wilt wasn't the face of the league. He was flaky and weird. Kareem was the best player for over a decade. Stoic. I mean, you watch the HBO series on Kareem that was very accurate. He was difficult to get along with, and Magic Johnson gets along with everybody the league has had. There's a story this morning. Jason Tatum gets glossed over or ignored when observers consider face of the league. Hell, he wasn't face of the Celtics in the finals. Jalen Brown was Marcus Smart two years earlier was taking the ball from him. There's something about movie stars. Tom Cruise is a movie star John Malkovic is a great actor. Denzel Washington, that's a movie star. Jeremy Irons, you could argue maybe a better actor. Some would say maybe not, but there's a cool and a charisma. Tatum's excellent. He's not in the same zip code as cool Zion had a chance to be face of the league, but he ate himself out of playing time. John Morant maybe had a chance. He wasn't mature enough. There's been three faces of the league. And I've been watching this league since I was on a bunk bed in nineteen seventy two watching Wilton the Lakers, Old Wilt with a head band, Jerry West, Gail Goodrich. Yes, yes, that's why I got this gray hair. I've watched a lot of NBA in the seventies. The rest of you collected baseball cards. I collected NBA cards. Three faces of the league, Magic, Michael, and Lebron and that is it. Well, what about Kobe Bryant. He wasn't as popular as Shaq. People worship Kobe's talent, people liked Shaq. What about Steph Curry? He's close, but you can have one face of the league. And in his prime, Lebron was in his prime, and Steph's never really sold shoes. And by the way, you generally have to be the best player on your own team. For several years with KD, he wasn't. And I'm a huge Steph fan. So there's a couple of factors that are really important. First of all, and this is why Steph is close. You have to have an other worldly talent. We've never seen anything like Magic Johnson, the smile, the passes. He was a six to nine point guard. Against the Sixers in the finals, he played center and scored forty two points. Michael Jordan greatest player ever. I mean, nobody played like Michael. You never seen anything like Michael. And Lebron James again walked into the league. The first night of the NBA out of high school. He scored twenty points. He was scoring forty later that year. So you have to have other worldly talent. You also have to want it. Michael, Magic and Lebron are outstanding business guys. They read the business page before they read the sports page. And number three, it really helps if we're introduced to you early. We're watching Michael Jordan as a freshman at North Carolina. Who is this kid We're watching Magic Johnson, winn A Natty over Larry Bird National Championship, jud Heathcote, the Spartans, who's this kid? All all the crazy pass and Lebron James in high school, the chosen one. This is where this is where like Tim Duncan was good enough but boring, Kareem was great enough, but stoic Kobe, little moody, little difficult Shack was more liked. But it really helps if we're introduced to you early. And that's where it hurts the international guys, none of it. I mean, I'm not sitting watching the Lithuanian basketball on YouTube. Maybe you are, most people are not. And that's why Zion had a chance. His YouTube stuff blew up in his crazy dunks and then he goes to Duke and then there's the shoe deal where it explodes and it's Nike and you're like, okay, here it goes. And he got a taste of that Jumble eye and that New Orleans food which I had for a week, and you know, he went a little sideways, a lot of sideways. So international guys sort of get dropped onto bad teams and then you look up three years later, with Jannis and go whoo, that guy's amazing. We like the journey in America. We love the journey. We want to be introduced to you the movie Air with Michael Jordan. We want to see a struggle. I mean Magic Johnson, the personal stuff HIV. We've seen Magic's journey. We love Magic. If you're at a Laker game, and this is the craziest thing, Magic's everywhere in Los Angeles. If you're at a Laker game and Magic Johnson walks into the arena, I am not joking, the crowd stands. It's insane. It's like he's all over town. You see see him driving around town. Kareem walks into the arena arguably a greater player. Nobody gets up. He's an intellect. He's fascinating. I have tons of respect for him. He was the best player when I was a kid. Better than Wilt for sure, greater offensive player than Russell, who I didn't see play live. But there is a charisma and a star power Jalen Brown, isn't it. Nobody's overlooking Jalen Brown. The only guy that's got an argument to me, a real argument, is Steph Curry. But there's one face of the league. And in his prime, Lebron was in his prime, and so and I don't think. I don't think sports need to have a face of the league. I mean, oh, Tawny is the face of baseball with Aaron Judge. Both appear to be great guys. One in New York, one in LA. Do you have to have one? I mean to me, in baseball, it's more about what teams are winning. If the Yankees are winning, if the Dodgers are winning, Atlanta Cubs viable, maybe the Mets baseball's fine. Philly's help as well, and that's why they're good. But this talk about face of the league, there's been three in my lifetime. It's not just about productivity. Or Jeremy Irons would be the face of Hollywood. Denzel's been that, Tom Hanks has been that, Tom Cruise has been that. There's there's a there's a there's a formula for all this stuff. And that's why it's so damn hard. Some of the guys don't want it. I'm not sure Wemby wants it. I think Aunt, by the way, if Aunt played in Los Angeles, I think you'd have a shot. If Wemby was in New York International. Maybe a shot, but there's a lot of components to this stuff. And I don't think Jason Tatum and this is not disrespectful to his game. But when I watched the finals, I mean they ship Marcus Smart out of town a defensive guard, because he was taking the ball out of Jason Tatum's hands. Nobody took it out of Lebron's hands, including Kyrie Irving and d Wade. Nobody took the ball out of Michael's hands, and Kareem, you run the show. There is an alpha, there is a formula. Jason Tatum's a great player, but he's closer to Duncan in personality than Magic. Just think about this. Close your eyes unless you're driving and listening on radio. Let's close our eyes, close our eyes. Think about Magic Johnson. You can see the smile. Think about Michael. You can see that cocky grin. Think about Lebron. You can see the imagery, pregame chock. You can close your eyes and there's images with stars. Close your eyes now and do it with Tatum. I don't see anything. Twenty six a night, I don't see anything. Close your eyes and do it with Duncan. You see a rebound. I'm not being harsh here. I can close my eyes and I see Magic Johnson's smile and laugh. I see Michael Jordan in the documentary. He see his intensity, his brooding intensity, but his likability. Lebron James say.

What you want.

What you want.

I close my eyes. I can see his game, running down the floor blocking things. There's a formula to this stuff. I don't think the NBA needs it. But we've had three all time. That's it. Okay, I got one other thing I want to touch up, and I may have been rambling there, but you know I feel strongly about that. So I've said this before. Divorced. When you get a divorce, you got to be a grown up. Okay, guys, if you're going to get a divorce, you have to realize she may date somebody that's better looking than you and much more successful than you. Are you comfortable with that? Grass is always greener? Are you comfortable with that? So when the Dallas Mavericks made that trade, what we're finding out they're now bad mouthing. The X stories are now leaking on Luca. Here's one of the stories that is leaking on Luca. Athletic had a story. According to Sam Ammick, the people who witnessed Luca's last days in Dallas called him lazy. They talk about the weight issues, They mentioned the social habits the Athletic has reported on such a taste for beer and hookah the only thing they smoking in the NBA. I'm just saying, and if you've been to New York, go to a hookah bar. It's a good time, folks. Michael Jordan's smoked cigars, drank wine, played thirty six holes on days of playoff games. He's the goat shack, came into the season out of shape. I mean, right now, pot is wine in the NBA. It's fine. The bottom line is they weren't ready for this divorce. They thought this divorce was all about Anthony Davis and getting the lazy guy out. They had no idea how much it would tick off Dallas fans, and now they're reeling. I saw a story this morning, and by the way, all those bad work habits got Luca five time first team All Pro. Okay, I didn't hurt him that much. Didn't hurt Michael that much. He was playing late night game, smoking his seventeenth cigar in four hours. Leaking stuff makes them look bad. The Mavericks ticket prices have fallen forty percent, and you know what, Luca is now dating somebody that's more successful, got a lot of trophies, Crypto Arena, bigger brand, and they didn't think about it. They just didn't think about that. This was all about getting him out. They had no idea how big the Lakers brand is. They had no idea that it would create this incredible lebron James joy and energy, and they're not here for it. So they're just leaking stuff to make him look bad. First of all, none of this stuff is a surprise. There's a piece of video years ago Luca after winning or getting to a championship level, somebody takes a beer out of his hand. The other thing is kids drink earlier in Europe. Kids are drinking wine with their parents when they're fifteen years old. In Europe. Go there, more people smoke. It's just a different lifestyle. It's a very relaxed lifestyle. Long lunches, a lot of SIGs, a lot of wine for kids, little chill afternoon siestas. So this is a team that thought they were ready for the divorce and Luke upgraded. And by the way, in the same conference, just move down the street, drives by the house all the time, and you don't like what it feels like. All right, A lot of stuff today. J Mack got some NFL combine stuff. Do you see the report cards out? Some of the stuff's actually funny. Do you see the Bengals got an F on food? How do you get an F on food? They don't give their guys three meals a day. That's crazy.

I close my eyes. I can see his game, running down the floor blocking things. There's a formula to this stuff. I don't think the NBA needs it. But we've had three all time. That's it. Okay, I got one other thing I want to touch up, and I may have been rambling there, but you know I feel strongly about that. So I've said this before. Divorced. When you get a divorce, you got to be a grown up. Okay, guys, if you're going to get a divorce, you have to realize she may date somebody that's better looking than you and much more successful than you. Are you comfortable with that? Grass is always greener? Are you comfortable with that? So when the Dallas Mavericks made that trade, what we're finding out they're now bad mouthing. The X stories are now leaking on Luca. Here's one of the stories that is leaking on Luca. Athletic had a story. According to Sam Ammick, the people who witnessed Luca's last days in Dallas called him lazy. They talk about the weight issues, They mentioned the social habits the Athletic has reported on such a taste for beer and hookah the only thing they smoking in the NBA. I'm just saying, and if you've been to New York, go to a hookah bar. It's a good time, folks. Michael Jordan's smoked cigars, drank wine, played thirty six holes on days of playoff games. He's the goat shack, came into the season out of shape. I mean, right now, pot is wine in the NBA. It's fine. The bottom line is they weren't ready for this divorce. They thought this divorce was all about Anthony Davis and getting the lazy guy out. They had no idea how much it would tick off Dallas fans, and now they're reeling. I saw a story this morning, and by the way, all those bad work habits got Luca five time first team All Pro. Okay, I didn't hurt him that much. Didn't hurt Michael that much. He was playing late night game, smoking his seventeenth cigar in four hours. Leaking stuff makes them look bad. The Mavericks ticket prices have fallen forty percent, and you know what, Luca is now dating somebody that's more successful, got a lot of trophies, Crypto Arena, bigger brand, and they didn't think about it. They just didn't think about that. This was all about getting him out. They had no idea how big the Lakers brand is. They had no idea that it would create this incredible lebron James joy and energy, and they're not here for it. So they're just leaking stuff to make him look bad. First of all, none of this stuff is a surprise. There's a piece of video years ago Luca after winning or getting to a championship level, somebody takes a beer out of his hand. The other thing is kids drink earlier in Europe. Kids are drinking wine with their parents when they're fifteen years old. In Europe. Go there, more people smoke. It's just a different lifestyle. It's a very relaxed lifestyle. Long lunches, a lot of SIGs, a lot of wine for kids, little chill afternoon siestas. So this is a team that thought they were ready for the divorce and Luke upgraded. And by the way, in the same conference, just move down the street, drives by the house all the time, and you don't like what it feels like. All right, A lot of stuff today. J Mack got some NFL combine stuff. Do you see the report cards out? Some of the stuff's actually funny. Do you see the Bengals got an F on food? How do you get an F on food? They don't give their guys three meals a day. That's crazy.

I mean some of the stuff out there is back. By the way, you mentioned a hookah lounge earlier, met my wife at.

I mean some of the stuff out there is back. By the way, you mentioned a hookah lounge earlier, met my wife at.

A hookah lounge in New York City.

A hookah lounge in New York City.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now it's starts at ao as a hookah lounge and then late night it gets into like a viby lounge type spot where yeah, they moved.

Now it's starts at ao as a hookah lounge and then late night it gets into like a viby lounge type spot where yeah, they moved.

The hookahs to the side. But hookah lounges are great.

The hookahs to the side. But hookah lounges are great.

Have you done that? I've done that. I took and to a hookah lounge in New York and we had we did a lot of hookah and Luca. Whoka is it a verb? Is it that we just had a very good time?

Have you done that? I've done that. I took and to a hookah lounge in New York and we had we did a lot of hookah and Luca. Whoka is it a verb? Is it that we just had a very good time?

Who could?

Who could?

Yeah? I still can't get into that text or it's just text there is nothing beyond text. Is that plural? I don't know. But you go to a hookah bar and I just laugh at this because it's like we've all understood. In the NBA, KD talks about this, it's it's pot is wine. Nobody cares. No. The bottom line is do you have game or do you not have game? By the way, again, this would be a bigger deal. That's why Luca is not gonna be the face of the league. Like Michael Jordan wouldn't even talk about politics. Lucas unbelievably productive, but he wants his beer, he wants his hookah. He's not gonna be in great shape. I've always said he's closer to Carmelo than he is to Michael Jordan. And by the way, Carmelo is a Hall of Famer. But there's certain guys that just aren't gonna be the face of the leak and they don't they don't want to be the face of the league. Yokich, the minute he won a title, they asked him about the parade, and he was like, I gotta go to a parade. I just want to go home and play with my horses. Like some guys don't want to be faces of the League. I do have to ask.

Yeah? I still can't get into that text or it's just text there is nothing beyond text. Is that plural? I don't know. But you go to a hookah bar and I just laugh at this because it's like we've all understood. In the NBA, KD talks about this, it's it's pot is wine. Nobody cares. No. The bottom line is do you have game or do you not have game? By the way, again, this would be a bigger deal. That's why Luca is not gonna be the face of the league. Like Michael Jordan wouldn't even talk about politics. Lucas unbelievably productive, but he wants his beer, he wants his hookah. He's not gonna be in great shape. I've always said he's closer to Carmelo than he is to Michael Jordan. And by the way, Carmelo is a Hall of Famer. But there's certain guys that just aren't gonna be the face of the leak and they don't they don't want to be the face of the league. Yokich, the minute he won a title, they asked him about the parade, and he was like, I gotta go to a parade. I just want to go home and play with my horses. Like some guys don't want to be faces of the League. I do have to ask.

I got a text during your rant about Face of the League. You had Magic, but no Larry.

I got a text during your rant about Face of the League. You had Magic, but no Larry.

Bird don't know? Okay, great example. No should they believe together as a pass field?

Bird don't know? Okay, great example. No should they believe together as a pass field?

No?

No?

Ok so because Larry Bird Grumpy had no interest in it, didn't have the look or the charisma. Larry Bird is much more. John Malkovic absolutely respected by everybody in Hollywood, almost worship John Malcovic walks into a room of actors. Everybody's like, there's the best actor. Denzel walks in and everybody goes, damn, that's a movie star. I told you the other day there's one person in Hollywood, maybe Denzel too, but the one person, Holly, What if they walked into this room, I would be nervous. It's not Jeremy Irons, It's Tom Cruise. And so Larry Bird was this French lick. Grumpy didn't. I mean really, I mean, go look at the movies done about like Magic and Burt. He was grumpy, he hated the media. Magic is in Beverly Hills with Jerry Buss and the convertible sports car having the time of his life. And Magic, I mean the name Magic, so Larry like Terry was very French Lake Indiana, and I love Larry, But I mean, ask yourself. I've said this before. Los Angeles is a global city. Boston's and domestic city. Boston is uh, it's you know, the town departed, like every third guy's a mobster. Like I mean, everybody I know, everybody I know from Boston has a chip on their shoulder. It's sort of insular. It's incredibly insular. It's one of the only cities in the country that does not watch any sports outside of their market. They did test when I used to work at the other place, I saw a test on this. Boston watches Boston Sports. Now. New York will watch the Rose bul New York the World Series. If they're not in it, they'll walk. I mean, New York is a they'll watch anything, La will watch stuff, Seattle, Denver, Boston watches Boston. Boston people vacation in Massachusetts, they go to the Cape. New Yorkers go down to Florida. New Yorkers will go west. New Yorkers will go to Europe. Boston guy goes to the Cape. That's a taker there. You just came up with that on the fly.

Ok so because Larry Bird Grumpy had no interest in it, didn't have the look or the charisma. Larry Bird is much more. John Malkovic absolutely respected by everybody in Hollywood, almost worship John Malcovic walks into a room of actors. Everybody's like, there's the best actor. Denzel walks in and everybody goes, damn, that's a movie star. I told you the other day there's one person in Hollywood, maybe Denzel too, but the one person, Holly, What if they walked into this room, I would be nervous. It's not Jeremy Irons, It's Tom Cruise. And so Larry Bird was this French lick. Grumpy didn't. I mean really, I mean, go look at the movies done about like Magic and Burt. He was grumpy, he hated the media. Magic is in Beverly Hills with Jerry Buss and the convertible sports car having the time of his life. And Magic, I mean the name Magic, so Larry like Terry was very French Lake Indiana, and I love Larry, But I mean, ask yourself. I've said this before. Los Angeles is a global city. Boston's and domestic city. Boston is uh, it's you know, the town departed, like every third guy's a mobster. Like I mean, everybody I know, everybody I know from Boston has a chip on their shoulder. It's sort of insular. It's incredibly insular. It's one of the only cities in the country that does not watch any sports outside of their market. They did test when I used to work at the other place, I saw a test on this. Boston watches Boston Sports. Now. New York will watch the Rose bul New York the World Series. If they're not in it, they'll walk. I mean, New York is a they'll watch anything, La will watch stuff, Seattle, Denver, Boston watches Boston. Boston people vacation in Massachusetts, they go to the Cape. New Yorkers go down to Florida. New Yorkers will go west. New Yorkers will go to Europe. Boston guy goes to the Cape. That's a taker there. You just came up with that on the fly.

Didn't you?

Didn't you?

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All right, you're now entering the no bull Zone, brought to you by credible great rates, with none of the bull so NFL combines going on. It's actually known as a week when a lot of executives go and deals get made. And you know, it's not just guys in shorts running forties and cone drills. It's a lot of executives go there late nights, cocktails cigars and figure out deals. So I saw a story this morning the Giants met with Matthew Stafford's agent in Indianapolis. So there's two scenarios where I will defend Matt Stafford if he stays with the Rams. Obviously, great coach, great org, very good roster, franchise momentum, mcveigh's had one losing season. They were driving to beat the Eagles in a snowstorm. If he stays and takes a little less and I'm not going to get into players' money too much, but I would defend him. I would also defend him on going to the Raiders because I think Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly are a really, really good combination as a staff. They don't have any momentum, but there's no state tax. They've got a good left tackle. Actually, I like some of their young offensive linemen at center and right tackle. They got Max Crosby, and they have a weapon in Brock Bowers. You cannot cover. You can literally, he is the greatest tight end prospect now in the league. Last year as a rookie, they were bad at quarterback and you still can't cover it. So and they're going to go in the draft, and it's a great running back draft, and the Raiders need a running back. So what they need the draft is going to provide. I would excuse you, listen if the Rams offer him two years and ninety million and the Raiders offer him four years in one hundred and seventy million in no state tax from California to get on the freeway west East head East. I'm going to defend that. But if he goes to the New York Giants, it's a money grab. I mean, that's like Robinson Cano going from the Yankees to the Mariners. I lost respect. You're not about winning, You're not about competing. It's just a money grab in a way, it would be like Katie to Brooklyn. Now, Kadi to Brooklyn was not a money grab, but it was kind of weird, right, Like he just wanted to go where he wanted to go, and he didn't feel loved. Matt Stafford has loved Everybody loves Matt Stafford. But there our realities that you can get trapped very quickly in this league on old quarterbacks Denver Cleveland, if somebody's been banged up a few times and Matt Stafford's taking a lot of hits. The Rams have leverage here, and their leverage is we're one of the five best run franchises in the league. And the Giants are a bad organization. Eight years, one playoff game, one playoff win. I think it is. They're just not a I mean, the head coach and the GM and I think they both had to say, let Saquon Barkley walk to arrival. That's probably more Joe Shane than Brian Babel, but it's not a good organization. So I will defend him if he gets four years and goes to the Raiders, because I think Pete and Chip Kelly are going to work and it's a tough division, but can you imagine that division with Herbert bow Nicks, Matt Stafford and Mahomes. Here's Albert Brer yesterday on Vegas. The fit for Stafford.

All right, you're now entering the no bull Zone, brought to you by credible great rates, with none of the bull so NFL combines going on. It's actually known as a week when a lot of executives go and deals get made. And you know, it's not just guys in shorts running forties and cone drills. It's a lot of executives go there late nights, cocktails cigars and figure out deals. So I saw a story this morning the Giants met with Matthew Stafford's agent in Indianapolis. So there's two scenarios where I will defend Matt Stafford if he stays with the Rams. Obviously, great coach, great org, very good roster, franchise momentum, mcveigh's had one losing season. They were driving to beat the Eagles in a snowstorm. If he stays and takes a little less and I'm not going to get into players' money too much, but I would defend him. I would also defend him on going to the Raiders because I think Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly are a really, really good combination as a staff. They don't have any momentum, but there's no state tax. They've got a good left tackle. Actually, I like some of their young offensive linemen at center and right tackle. They got Max Crosby, and they have a weapon in Brock Bowers. You cannot cover. You can literally, he is the greatest tight end prospect now in the league. Last year as a rookie, they were bad at quarterback and you still can't cover it. So and they're going to go in the draft, and it's a great running back draft, and the Raiders need a running back. So what they need the draft is going to provide. I would excuse you, listen if the Rams offer him two years and ninety million and the Raiders offer him four years in one hundred and seventy million in no state tax from California to get on the freeway west East head East. I'm going to defend that. But if he goes to the New York Giants, it's a money grab. I mean, that's like Robinson Cano going from the Yankees to the Mariners. I lost respect. You're not about winning, You're not about competing. It's just a money grab in a way, it would be like Katie to Brooklyn. Now, Kadi to Brooklyn was not a money grab, but it was kind of weird, right, Like he just wanted to go where he wanted to go, and he didn't feel loved. Matt Stafford has loved Everybody loves Matt Stafford. But there our realities that you can get trapped very quickly in this league on old quarterbacks Denver Cleveland, if somebody's been banged up a few times and Matt Stafford's taking a lot of hits. The Rams have leverage here, and their leverage is we're one of the five best run franchises in the league. And the Giants are a bad organization. Eight years, one playoff game, one playoff win. I think it is. They're just not a I mean, the head coach and the GM and I think they both had to say, let Saquon Barkley walk to arrival. That's probably more Joe Shane than Brian Babel, but it's not a good organization. So I will defend him if he gets four years and goes to the Raiders, because I think Pete and Chip Kelly are going to work and it's a tough division, but can you imagine that division with Herbert bow Nicks, Matt Stafford and Mahomes. Here's Albert Brer yesterday on Vegas. The fit for Stafford.

I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in that I think so much of what Tom Brady is doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible head coaching hire John spy Tech is well respected across the NFL coming in as his GM. You've got resources, which is part of how you pay say six million dollars a year to go and get Chip Kelly and adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback I think would make some sense from that standpoint in that you're gonna be able to get competitive quicker.

I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in that I think so much of what Tom Brady is doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible head coaching hire John spy Tech is well respected across the NFL coming in as his GM. You've got resources, which is part of how you pay say six million dollars a year to go and get Chip Kelly and adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback I think would make some sense from that standpoint in that you're gonna be able to get competitive quicker.

Yeah, I'll defend him on that, ill defend I still think he's gonna stay with the Rams.

Yeah, I'll defend him on that, ill defend I still think he's gonna stay with the Rams.

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By the way, give the audience a heads up. Who's your final four right now?

By the way, give the audience a heads up. Who's your final four right now?

Oh geez after a rough night in college?

Oh geez after a rough night in college?

Well you common struggled, Produce struggled a little bit, Duke scuper Flag.

Well you common struggled, Produce struggled a little bit, Duke scuper Flag.

You have to put them in there for sure. I like Houston a little bit. They're looking pretty sharp. Auburn is incredible, and I'll go Alabama as well.

You have to put them in there for sure. I like Houston a little bit. They're looking pretty sharp. Auburn is incredible, and I'll go Alabama as well.

I think the SEC is the best. I've never seen a conference with that many good teams loaded. It's like nine deep ten deep at the SEC. It's incredible. Yesterday we talked about this briefly. The NFLPA, the National Football League Player Association, hands out grades for their teams. It's anonymous, so they vote on coach, owner, food, travel, weight, room, and treatment of family. So it doesn't mean anything to me. I don't really care that much. The largest decline of any team in the league that went down year to year the most the Philadelphia Eagles, by the way. Number one is Miami and they haven't won a playoff game in twenty five years. The Raiders are near the top. The Chiefs are at near the bottom. So I can remember when USC. The last time USC football was a national power, Pete Carroll, they had horrible facilities. I mean, i'd prisons had better weight rooms. Now they have beautiful facilities and they can't beat Maryland and Minnesota. What does it matter? So when I hear about you know, food and elite traveled, apparently Patriot players were upset they don't get good Wi Fi on the plane. Sorry, you can't watch Netflix tackle better. The one place the Chiefs got a night plus head coach. And I've said this to friends. I love that I get free coffee at Fox. I get Cafe Americanos. I have like four a day, and they got gummy bears everywhere. The best part about Fox management lets me say whatever I want to say and leaves me alone. It's all about coaching. I don't care about your plane player empowerment, treatment of family. It would be great if you offered daycare for all the kids all the time. It would be great. But I've always had this feeling. I covered Mike Tyson in his prime and I was a sportscaster in Las Vegas and he his favorite gym to work out at was the darkest, dingiest, smallest gym in Las Vegas. It was called Johnny Toco's Ringside Jim Rest in peace to a beautiful older boxing guy. Johnny was a wonderful human being. I would hang out in his gym. I watched so many fighters in that gym. Tyson and loved it. And you know why, Mike Tython loved it because he was going to work. He was going to work and when he walked into the ring black trunks and a torn up hoodie, he was going to work. If you're sitting worried about Wi Fi and having the shiniest locker rooms, you don't care about what matters. Now in college football, it's a little different because the players choose you. So I do think it matters that Ohio State and Texas and Oregon have beautiful facilities. It matters some, but in the end, it's all about coaching and GMing and the fact that Philadelphia had a major decline and the Raiders are near the top. And I've heard this, by the way, I know the GM formerly in Vegas and he said the facilities are amazing. I wish the owner was that good. I wish they get the better coaches. So I don't take a lot of stock in this stuff. I think in college football, facilities matter. But the one category that I think was promising is that twenty coaches received a's and so I think Albert Breer talked about this yesterday, is that players like their coaches and that matters.

I think the SEC is the best. I've never seen a conference with that many good teams loaded. It's like nine deep ten deep at the SEC. It's incredible. Yesterday we talked about this briefly. The NFLPA, the National Football League Player Association, hands out grades for their teams. It's anonymous, so they vote on coach, owner, food, travel, weight, room, and treatment of family. So it doesn't mean anything to me. I don't really care that much. The largest decline of any team in the league that went down year to year the most the Philadelphia Eagles, by the way. Number one is Miami and they haven't won a playoff game in twenty five years. The Raiders are near the top. The Chiefs are at near the bottom. So I can remember when USC. The last time USC football was a national power, Pete Carroll, they had horrible facilities. I mean, i'd prisons had better weight rooms. Now they have beautiful facilities and they can't beat Maryland and Minnesota. What does it matter? So when I hear about you know, food and elite traveled, apparently Patriot players were upset they don't get good Wi Fi on the plane. Sorry, you can't watch Netflix tackle better. The one place the Chiefs got a night plus head coach. And I've said this to friends. I love that I get free coffee at Fox. I get Cafe Americanos. I have like four a day, and they got gummy bears everywhere. The best part about Fox management lets me say whatever I want to say and leaves me alone. It's all about coaching. I don't care about your plane player empowerment, treatment of family. It would be great if you offered daycare for all the kids all the time. It would be great. But I've always had this feeling. I covered Mike Tyson in his prime and I was a sportscaster in Las Vegas and he his favorite gym to work out at was the darkest, dingiest, smallest gym in Las Vegas. It was called Johnny Toco's Ringside Jim Rest in peace to a beautiful older boxing guy. Johnny was a wonderful human being. I would hang out in his gym. I watched so many fighters in that gym. Tyson and loved it. And you know why, Mike Tython loved it because he was going to work. He was going to work and when he walked into the ring black trunks and a torn up hoodie, he was going to work. If you're sitting worried about Wi Fi and having the shiniest locker rooms, you don't care about what matters. Now in college football, it's a little different because the players choose you. So I do think it matters that Ohio State and Texas and Oregon have beautiful facilities. It matters some, but in the end, it's all about coaching and GMing and the fact that Philadelphia had a major decline and the Raiders are near the top. And I've heard this, by the way, I know the GM formerly in Vegas and he said the facilities are amazing. I wish the owner was that good. I wish they get the better coaches. So I don't take a lot of stock in this stuff. I think in college football, facilities matter. But the one category that I think was promising is that twenty coaches received a's and so I think Albert Breer talked about this yesterday, is that players like their coaches and that matters.

One thing that's definitely notable is it has gotten better, Like it seems like what they're doing is working. You know, they showed us a whole bunch of different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer failing grades for teams that players are handing out. And I think a big part of that is that a lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the stuff that was out there on their teams, and so I do think to some degree some of that stuff's been fixed.

One thing that's definitely notable is it has gotten better, Like it seems like what they're doing is working. You know, they showed us a whole bunch of different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer failing grades for teams that players are handing out. And I think a big part of that is that a lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the stuff that was out there on their teams, and so I do think to some degree some of that stuff's been fixed.

Now Cincinnati and I don't even know how this is possible, got an F on food. Now. I have noted many times cheapest organization in the league. I do not know how you get an F on food? Are you giving these guys hull hos and ding dongs for breakfast? Like? How do you get an F on food? I mean you can't. What are you serving Joe Burrow for lunch that you would get a TV dinners again?

Now Cincinnati and I don't even know how this is possible, got an F on food. Now. I have noted many times cheapest organization in the league. I do not know how you get an F on food? Are you giving these guys hull hos and ding dongs for breakfast? Like? How do you get an F on food? I mean you can't. What are you serving Joe Burrow for lunch that you would get a TV dinners again?

Guys?

Guys?

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We go, it's our two? Is it Thursday to day? Jmac? Is Thursday? You don't have so much fun on the show? Is just there all the same day? I can't tell Anthony Edwards at the Lakers tonight you going? You know Finch could get me tickets? Look on you guys, are you going?

We go, it's our two? Is it Thursday to day? Jmac? Is Thursday? You don't have so much fun on the show? Is just there all the same day? I can't tell Anthony Edwards at the Lakers tonight you going? You know Finch could get me tickets? Look on you guys, are you going?

I can't got a two?

I can't got a two?

Good? Then we have a men's league regular season? Oh okay, okay, alright, watch that. I think this is very Steve Starkeisan Longhorn football coach coming up in a couple of minutes. So I think this story on John Lynch. The Niners are negotiating with Brock Purty. So I've said this before, do not confuse great story with great player. So Rock Purty being the last guy taken in a draft and getting to a Super Bowl that's a Disney movie. Don't hand him a great contract because he's a great story. And last year Christian McCaffrey gets ding da Brandon Iyuk is out. You know, Trent Williams has heard little ice on the road and his car was spinning out of control. Suddenly he had twelve picks, fourth in the league. So last year against playoff teams, one in six, one and six, nine touchdowns, ten picks, eighteen point nine points a game. So again, Dak Prescott was a great story. He got a great contract, and Dallas has been irrelevant since. I like Brock Perdy. But again, the minute there was a little ice on the road, can you drive in bad weather? Can you drive on icy roads? Because that's what November, December, January football is in the NFL. I would give him a contract. I think he's a good kid. I think his superpower. Jmack talked about this yesterday. I think above the shoulders, the kid is really quick. I think cognitively, he's a really bright kid and he gets it really quick. But listen, Andy Reid and Mahomes. Once they paid Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid and Mahomes have struggled the last two years to score points. Okay, that's what happens when you pay the quarterback, You're gonna have to make big time decisions. And I'll just throw this out there, the NFC West. So who's your biggest rival if you're the Niners, Jmack, it's the Rams. Okay. The Rams defense is good, bordering on excellent, young and getting better. Seattle and Arizona with defensive coaches, both their defenses moved up dramatically. Last year, Arizona was bottom of the league. Now they're middle of the pack. So look, my take is the NFC West has become a very good defensive division. And if the Rams are your rival, and we know brock perty is not Stafford the talent, good luck against that Rams defense because it is it is gonna be the next Eagles defense. It is that good they get. If they land a good corner in the first or third round, they don't have a second round pick. Watch out. They're about a corner away from being even better. So I'll just say last year was a real year for brock Purty. Like he didn't have all his weapons, he had some of them. Kittle was great, Kittle was outstanding. Deebo Samuel was there. Shanahan's a brilliant play designer, played color I'm not you had you had some weapons, but they were one in six against playoff teams. They eight against bad teams. They scored twenty eight a game against non playoff teams. They scored, you know, nineteen in a game against playoff teams. And not only did he have twelve picks, some of them rugly, like more than a few were. What are we doing here? Here's John Lynch on the discussion on the contract. They're already talking.

Good? Then we have a men's league regular season? Oh okay, okay, alright, watch that. I think this is very Steve Starkeisan Longhorn football coach coming up in a couple of minutes. So I think this story on John Lynch. The Niners are negotiating with Brock Purty. So I've said this before, do not confuse great story with great player. So Rock Purty being the last guy taken in a draft and getting to a Super Bowl that's a Disney movie. Don't hand him a great contract because he's a great story. And last year Christian McCaffrey gets ding da Brandon Iyuk is out. You know, Trent Williams has heard little ice on the road and his car was spinning out of control. Suddenly he had twelve picks, fourth in the league. So last year against playoff teams, one in six, one and six, nine touchdowns, ten picks, eighteen point nine points a game. So again, Dak Prescott was a great story. He got a great contract, and Dallas has been irrelevant since. I like Brock Perdy. But again, the minute there was a little ice on the road, can you drive in bad weather? Can you drive on icy roads? Because that's what November, December, January football is in the NFL. I would give him a contract. I think he's a good kid. I think his superpower. Jmack talked about this yesterday. I think above the shoulders, the kid is really quick. I think cognitively, he's a really bright kid and he gets it really quick. But listen, Andy Reid and Mahomes. Once they paid Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid and Mahomes have struggled the last two years to score points. Okay, that's what happens when you pay the quarterback, You're gonna have to make big time decisions. And I'll just throw this out there, the NFC West. So who's your biggest rival if you're the Niners, Jmack, it's the Rams. Okay. The Rams defense is good, bordering on excellent, young and getting better. Seattle and Arizona with defensive coaches, both their defenses moved up dramatically. Last year, Arizona was bottom of the league. Now they're middle of the pack. So look, my take is the NFC West has become a very good defensive division. And if the Rams are your rival, and we know brock perty is not Stafford the talent, good luck against that Rams defense because it is it is gonna be the next Eagles defense. It is that good they get. If they land a good corner in the first or third round, they don't have a second round pick. Watch out. They're about a corner away from being even better. So I'll just say last year was a real year for brock Purty. Like he didn't have all his weapons, he had some of them. Kittle was great, Kittle was outstanding. Deebo Samuel was there. Shanahan's a brilliant play designer, played color I'm not you had you had some weapons, but they were one in six against playoff teams. They eight against bad teams. They scored twenty eight a game against non playoff teams. They scored, you know, nineteen in a game against playoff teams. And not only did he have twelve picks, some of them rugly, like more than a few were. What are we doing here? Here's John Lynch on the discussion on the contract. They're already talking.

We have started negotiations. We're talking. I won't go into negotiations, like always is our stance. Want brought to be our quarterback as long as we're here and beyond, and we'll leave it at that. I think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get something done, but my experience has been when both sides are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so.

We have started negotiations. We're talking. I won't go into negotiations, like always is our stance. Want brought to be our quarterback as long as we're here and beyond, and we'll leave it at that. I think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get something done, but my experience has been when both sides are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so.

I mean, there's three quarterbacks in this league that win regardless of what's around them. Lamar, Josh and Patrick. It just doesn't matter. Herbert's good, but he needs the right coach. Right. Herbert's good needs the right coach. Joe Burrow's great, needs a better offensive line and a better de There's three guys in this league that you can pay a ton of money to and they're still gonna win seventy five percent of their games. Lamar, Josh and Patrick. That's it. So I'm just throwing it out there. I know, old Jay Matt give the bag to. Everybody over here is just throwing him around like their jolly ranchers, just throwing those bills around, those c notes around. You gotta be careful you even you would acknowledge once you pay the quarterback, you're gonna have to you can't keep all the players.

I mean, there's three quarterbacks in this league that win regardless of what's around them. Lamar, Josh and Patrick. It just doesn't matter. Herbert's good, but he needs the right coach. Right. Herbert's good needs the right coach. Joe Burrow's great, needs a better offensive line and a better de There's three guys in this league that you can pay a ton of money to and they're still gonna win seventy five percent of their games. Lamar, Josh and Patrick. That's it. So I'm just throwing it out there. I know, old Jay Matt give the bag to. Everybody over here is just throwing him around like their jolly ranchers, just throwing those bills around, those c notes around. You gotta be careful you even you would acknowledge once you pay the quarterback, you're gonna have to you can't keep all the players.

Yeah, I mean, listen, you did some cherry picking with the stats against playoff teams. Oh no, no, Christian McCaffrey, no, Brandon Ayuki's missing half his team. Like, yeah, he had a couple of bad games, but you're dislike for party. Really, it's not just when it comes back to audience. This is real talk that he was the dead last pick in the draft. If Rock Berdy was like the last pick in the first round, coward.

Yeah, I mean, listen, you did some cherry picking with the stats against playoff teams. Oh no, no, Christian McCaffrey, no, Brandon Ayuki's missing half his team. Like, yeah, he had a couple of bad games, but you're dislike for party. Really, it's not just when it comes back to audience. This is real talk that he was the dead last pick in the draft. If Rock Berdy was like the last pick in the first round, coward.

Would be giving him chances.

Would be giving him chances.

Everybody would.

Everybody would.

People are out on him because he was not an early pick. He has proven more to you as a starter, has he not?

People are out on him because he was not an early pick. He has proven more to you as a starter, has he not?

I am not or that he's an elite obviously he's not an elite quarterback. I am not out on him. I've never been out on Dak. I am out on paying Dak sixty million a year. I'm not out on brock Party. I don't think you should pay him early. I'd let the contract run fifty.

I am not or that he's an elite obviously he's not an elite quarterback. I am not out on him. I've never been out on Dak. I am out on paying Dak sixty million a year. I'm not out on brock Party. I don't think you should pay him early. I'd let the contract run fifty.

How's fifty?

How's fifty?

Nope for we can talk about that Rember your alternative. But remember he says, no thanks, I'm gonna test the market.

Nope for we can talk about that Rember your alternative. But remember he says, no thanks, I'm gonna test the market.

Okay, good luck, good luck for that, all right, good luck, go ahead. I'm just saying this is not Saquon Barkley going from the Giants to the Eagles. If he went to Seattle with a defensive coach, He's not the same player.

Okay, good luck, good luck for that, all right, good luck, go ahead. I'm just saying this is not Saquon Barkley going from the Giants to the Eagles. If he went to Seattle with a defensive coach, He's not the same player.

Okay, who would you rather take if you were the Colts, Rock Purty or Sam Darnold.

Okay, who would you rather take if you were the Colts, Rock Purty or Sam Darnold.

If I'm the Colts, Yeah, well you're gonna have to pay, according to the agent here more for Purty and Donald's a much better athlete with a better arm.

If I'm the Colts, Yeah, well you're gonna have to pay, according to the agent here more for Purty and Donald's a much better athlete with a better arm.

Oh what you think? Donald is a better quarterback than right now than Rock Perley.

Oh what you think? Donald is a better quarterback than right now than Rock Perley.

He's a much better athlete with a much better arm. That's all what I'm saying. I'm just talking about traits as a quarterback.

He's a much better athlete with a much better arm. That's all what I'm saying. I'm just talking about traits as a quarterback.

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Passed away at ninety five years old today in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Just a tip, he's obviously. Hoosiers is arguably the greatest sports movie of all time. If you want to watch an old school movie, go to nineteen seventy Four's the conversation. Now that's the year Chinatown came out, and Godfather too, so the conversation was totally overlooked. It's a sneaky great Top twenty five, Top thirty film all time. I'm just throwing.

Passed away at ninety five years old today in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Just a tip, he's obviously. Hoosiers is arguably the greatest sports movie of all time. If you want to watch an old school movie, go to nineteen seventy Four's the conversation. Now that's the year Chinatown came out, and Godfather too, so the conversation was totally overlooked. It's a sneaky great Top twenty five, Top thirty film all time. I'm just throwing.

I'm listen. I value some things you say, and I'll go check out the conversation.

I'm listen. I value some things you say, and I'll go check out the conversation.

Okay, now now now again that's I should I take it back. Top one hundred movie of all time, Top THIRTYES two grands, top is way too great. Yeah, that's way too much, because you got to you gotta figure out. It's about six Kevin Costner, Top thirty overlooks oh god, Top top fifteen over, Okay, there you go, Top fifteen over number one, overlooked all time. That's the voice of Will Blackman Radio audience, the number one overlook movie of all time, Dead Calm with Billy Zaye and Nicole Kidman. Have you ever seen Dead Calm?

Okay, now now now again that's I should I take it back. Top one hundred movie of all time, Top THIRTYES two grands, top is way too great. Yeah, that's way too much, because you got to you gotta figure out. It's about six Kevin Costner, Top thirty overlooks oh god, Top top fifteen over, Okay, there you go, Top fifteen over number one, overlooked all time. That's the voice of Will Blackman Radio audience, the number one overlook movie of all time, Dead Calm with Billy Zaye and Nicole Kidman. Have you ever seen Dead Calm?

No?

No?

Oh, it is anybody here in the set scene Dead Calm?

Oh, it is anybody here in the set scene Dead Calm?

Oh you got nobody on the set?

Oh you got nobody on the set?

Oh God, you've seen it. Okay, one guy got his act together. Okay, Will black So watch the conversation. Nineteen seventy four Chinatown Godfather Too came out. Nobody nobody talked about the movie. It's one of Hackman's great ones. Okay, twelve years in the NFL. He's gonna be on speech later today, my buddy, Will Blackman. Okay, So I want to start with this. The NFLPA comes out with a report card. Yes, I don't know how in the world Cincinnati got an F on food. I have no idea how bad the food is. Does it matter how nice the facilities are, just matter how nice the plane is. It helps help helps one.

Oh God, you've seen it. Okay, one guy got his act together. Okay, Will black So watch the conversation. Nineteen seventy four Chinatown Godfather Too came out. Nobody nobody talked about the movie. It's one of Hackman's great ones. Okay, twelve years in the NFL. He's gonna be on speech later today, my buddy, Will Blackman. Okay, So I want to start with this. The NFLPA comes out with a report card. Yes, I don't know how in the world Cincinnati got an F on food. I have no idea how bad the food is. Does it matter how nice the facilities are, just matter how nice the plane is. It helps help helps one.

Maybe maybe the Bengals are serving too much chili up there. That's partly what's going on here. It helps just in terms of like just the vibe. Like when I worked with the Cowboys last year, that's it was a great place to go to. It was a great, great facility, great food, like everything was awesome there. But in terms of like free agent wise, it's more of like the destination. I don't think they it's so much the facility. But I will say this though. When I was on the then Redskins and we signed Josh Norman, I remember he came into the building and mister Snyder overheard him saying, like, this locker room is terrible, like a locker room was. We did not have a good locker room. We had the same locker room that the that the Washington team had in nineteen ninety two. It's the same locker room. And literally apparently what I apparently, missus Snyder heard that we broke ground literally next day or sometime that we and we.

Maybe maybe the Bengals are serving too much chili up there. That's partly what's going on here. It helps just in terms of like just the vibe. Like when I worked with the Cowboys last year, that's it was a great place to go to. It was a great, great facility, great food, like everything was awesome there. But in terms of like free agent wise, it's more of like the destination. I don't think they it's so much the facility. But I will say this though. When I was on the then Redskins and we signed Josh Norman, I remember he came into the building and mister Snyder overheard him saying, like, this locker room is terrible, like a locker room was. We did not have a good locker room. We had the same locker room that the that the Washington team had in nineteen ninety two. It's the same locker room. And literally apparently what I apparently, missus Snyder heard that we broke ground literally next day or sometime that we and we.

Had a new locker room. So it matters for free agents.

Had a new locker room. So it matters for free agents.

Too, Yeah, it does to an extent. I mean, if you're in a cool destination and you're getting your bag, you're getting money. I mean, at the end of the day, like it is what it is. But we have great facilities in green Bay, but people no one really wanted to come to green Bay.

Too, Yeah, it does to an extent. I mean, if you're in a cool destination and you're getting your bag, you're getting money. I mean, at the end of the day, like it is what it is. But we have great facilities in green Bay, but people no one really wanted to come to green Bay.

Yeah, weather whatever, small market, So green Bay has good facilities, Yeah.

Yeah, weather whatever, small market, So green Bay has good facilities, Yeah.

I liked it when I was there.

I liked it when I was there.

Yeah, I heard they like I heard Green Bay. I mean they'll iron your socks like they treat players.

Yeah, I heard they like I heard Green Bay. I mean they'll iron your socks like they treat players.

It is. It is full service. I didn't pay for a car, I didn't pay for a cell phone. I didn't pay for dinner. One thing I paid for.

It is. It is full service. I didn't pay for a car, I didn't pay for a cell phone. I didn't pay for dinner. One thing I paid for.

Was what do you mean you didn't pay for dinner?

Was what do you mean you didn't pay for dinner?

Because when you would be out to dinner in like a fan would I got it, and you wouldn't know, like Undercovered, they wouldn't tell you didn't know who it was.

Because when you would be out to dinner in like a fan would I got it, and you wouldn't know, like Undercovered, they wouldn't tell you didn't know who it was.

That's the Midwestern people. They're not flashy packer fans.

That's the Midwestern people. They're not flashy packer fans.

I can't say, ah Midwestern.

I can't say, ah Midwestern.

Okay, how about this? I said this before. I know money matters. Yes, okay, you live in California, Ram say two years ninety five million, thirteen and a half percent state tax. Vegas says three years, one hundred and fifty no state tax. I'd have to go, you'd have to go. That's just too big of a guest. And I do think it matters. It's indoors. I'm not gonna go to the Giants and play outdoors for a bad organization.

Okay, how about this? I said this before. I know money matters. Yes, okay, you live in California, Ram say two years ninety five million, thirteen and a half percent state tax. Vegas says three years, one hundred and fifty no state tax. I'd have to go, you'd have to go. That's just too big of a guest. And I do think it matters. It's indoors. I'm not gonna go to the Giants and play outdoors for a bad organization.

We're not gonna go with the giants.

We're not gonna go with the giants.

But let me ask you money matters, and for rich guys maybe it matters less. But I think the Raiders, I think hiring Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll.

But let me ask you money matters, and for rich guys maybe it matters less. But I think the Raiders, I think hiring Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll.

There's a win.

There's a win.

I think it's a big deal.

I think it's a big deal.

There's a win, Yes, no question. I will say this too, which with schel McVay, like he truly respects a player's value. You know, when I was there this past offseason and we were discussing free agents, he was like, I like this guy, but I don't want to insult him by off from less than what he is worth, right, and this is about a certain player, And so just knowing him when he said that, I'm sure he was like, hey, Matt does deserve to go get what he what he what he wants based on the market, he should go get it. It's gonna be really hard for us to do to get what he to give him what he wants money wise, but we will love him have him here, but it has to be at this number. And yeah, in terms of the Raiders, that was when that job became available, I out write was like, it makes too much sense. With Pete Carroll, it makes too much sense because you truly need someone who is gonna come in there and completely reset the culture. And there isn't really anyone who does that better than him.

There's a win, Yes, no question. I will say this too, which with schel McVay, like he truly respects a player's value. You know, when I was there this past offseason and we were discussing free agents, he was like, I like this guy, but I don't want to insult him by off from less than what he is worth, right, and this is about a certain player, And so just knowing him when he said that, I'm sure he was like, hey, Matt does deserve to go get what he what he what he wants based on the market, he should go get it. It's gonna be really hard for us to do to get what he to give him what he wants money wise, but we will love him have him here, but it has to be at this number. And yeah, in terms of the Raiders, that was when that job became available, I out write was like, it makes too much sense. With Pete Carroll, it makes too much sense because you truly need someone who is gonna come in there and completely reset the culture. And there isn't really anyone who does that better than him.

Do you think Brady taking him skiing matters? Does that have influence? See it again, Tom Brady took him skiing up in Montana. Does that matter?

Do you think Brady taking him skiing matters? Does that have influence? See it again, Tom Brady took him skiing up in Montana. Does that matter?

I think that does matter. Yeah, of course that definitely matters because a lot of the lot of like the OG quarterbacks, they truly respect Matt Stafford, not just not just his mind, but what he can do with with the football. Playing against him twice a year when I was in Green Bay, I mean I've been seeing those no look passes since they're you know, the early two thousands, like that's just what he did. And I mean Aaron Rodgers was even our record mentioning like, hey, that dude number nine on Detroit. Like the stuff he can do with the football, like people I've seen him played against. Obviously, you say Mahomes, you say Aaron Rodgers, you say Matt Stafford. In terms of what they can do with the football just lights out. So I think in terms of, yeah, if I was him, I definitely if the raid is off of that, I will go there.

I think that does matter. Yeah, of course that definitely matters because a lot of the lot of like the OG quarterbacks, they truly respect Matt Stafford, not just not just his mind, but what he can do with with the football. Playing against him twice a year when I was in Green Bay, I mean I've been seeing those no look passes since they're you know, the early two thousands, like that's just what he did. And I mean Aaron Rodgers was even our record mentioning like, hey, that dude number nine on Detroit. Like the stuff he can do with the football, like people I've seen him played against. Obviously, you say Mahomes, you say Aaron Rodgers, you say Matt Stafford. In terms of what they can do with the football just lights out. So I think in terms of, yeah, if I was him, I definitely if the raid is off of that, I will go there.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And Okay, so now I have said this and I have been critical of your friend Aaron, but I said I thought Aaron considering it was a suboptimal coaching staff in New York at the end of the year. I like Sola, but when he left, I didn't think it was a very good staff. Aaron's last ten games he was good. He was very very good. I would have no problem saying, Aaron, we're going to bring in you for two years. First year, it's your team. We are going to draft a quarterback next year. But I think forget the being humbled thing. I think Aaron played good football, and I don't think he's as good as Matt Stafford now. But I would have no problem bringing Aaron Rodgers in on a two year deal. It's your team for a year. You may win it the second year, but we are going to draft the quarterback next year.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And Okay, so now I have said this and I have been critical of your friend Aaron, but I said I thought Aaron considering it was a suboptimal coaching staff in New York at the end of the year. I like Sola, but when he left, I didn't think it was a very good staff. Aaron's last ten games he was good. He was very very good. I would have no problem saying, Aaron, we're going to bring in you for two years. First year, it's your team. We are going to draft a quarterback next year. But I think forget the being humbled thing. I think Aaron played good football, and I don't think he's as good as Matt Stafford now. But I would have no problem bringing Aaron Rodgers in on a two year deal. It's your team for a year. You may win it the second year, but we are going to draft the quarterback next year.

Would you do that you see any team?

Would you do that you see any team?

No, No, I'm saying Rams, use I'm not going to go with Garapolo of Stafford leaves. I'm gonna we're talking of a team. We have too many good players.