Thanks for listening to the Best of Herd podcast. Are you sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowhern on Fox Sports Radio. Here we go on a Thursday. NFL begins in Earnest Tonight, Jags Raiders. Come on, We'll watch a little right live in LA. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio FS one. I have often said that Joy is my work wife, holding me accountable and always protecting me. This morning, Joy was five minutes late to the makeup room, and we had an ap b all over Los Angeles to find her, because nobody is more punctual than Joys Taylor, and we were all freaking out about Joy Taylor, and it just happened she had something with her hair and she was four minutes late. So we're just we were a little unsettled this morning that Joy was four to five minutes late. I appreciate the concern. Yes, I should have text, but I didn't think that the the time proximity me mena fucking in with that urgent. But I appreciate the concern. Yes, I couldn't get the lid off of this stupid new shampoo and it's sevey behind a couple of minutes. But we made it. I'm like, let's get Shanks on the phone. We got a problem. I appreciate that. I know that people will be looking for me. That's good news. We're always looking out for your kid. All right. Oh wow, So let's just start two stories today. We're gonna talk quarterbacks, and these are quite divergent stories. Deshaun Watson six games suspension. The NFL said, nah, nah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna make it way worse than that. NFL Roger Goodell have said, yeah, we're gonna peel that. So ay, it's the right move. I said, yes day, I would take six and move it to twelve. I would give Deshaun Watson six for a preponderance of evidence that he's creepy inappropriate, and then I would give him six for lying because he's never been honest about this, and you can light to a lot of people. I guess in America, don't light to judges. The second thing is Deshaun Watson in the NFLPA could sue and he could actually in an appeal play Week one. There are a lot of moving parts, there's a lot of variables, but I think my takeaway on this is Roger Goodell is essentially saying, you're going to take the hit for this, not the league and not me. I'm protecting the brand, I'm protecting the shield, I'm protecting the league. We are going to get the strongest punishment possible and we may lose in court, doubt it, but we may lose in court. But when we do, we can look our fans and consumers and advertisers in the eye and the TV networks and say we were on the right side of this. That's what I think Goodell is saying. We're on the right side of this. We might not win. Goodell's smart. He's been always underrated by I think fans in the media. This is one of the hardest businesses in the world. It's the biggest pro league. It's got thirty two needy billionaires, many of your employees are rock stars in America, and you have to dole out punishment occasionally. And I do think and I like Roger at met him a couple of times at dinner, a couple of times. I think he's missed a couple of times, been a little tone deaf. Men are often tone deaf, and I think he knows it. And I think he said I got about ten twelve years left on this. I'm going to correct that. So I'm going to go all in on this. I according to people I trust, one of them being Charles Robinson, an excellent reporter. He says Roger Goodell does not want him playing in week twelve. Twelve was the minimum number of games that the NFL wanted, and that to me, when I saw the six, I said yesterday on the show, I would double it. You gotta pay a price for lying to a judge. I mean, it's like in anything. If I have my kids that it's not nearly this important. If they're straight with me, I'm much more willing to compromise. If they lie to me, I'm much more willing to be punitive. So I like what the league is doing. They're saying, okay, we're gonna go all in on this. If we lose, Okay, advertisers, networks, fans, women we wanted, we may lose in court. We were on the right side of this, all right. My second quarterback story. This is a doozy, and it really is. This is this is a doozy. So there was a headline yesterday on the Internet from a site called out kick. It's a sports political website. The headline alone is one of the great headlines in the history of quarterbacks. I'll read it to you. Aaron Rodgers girlfriend Blew of Earth, who had to address which rumors earlier this summer, reacts to the Packers quarterbacks self love journey via a psychedelic brew used by Amazonian tribes that cause hallucinations. There's like six names of bands in there. If you have a garage ban, you're thinking of a name which rumors is way up there, only to be followed by psychedelic brew. So Aaron went and he experimented with actually a very ancient and serious healing method. Serious and like Central America, South America, they take it seriously. Occasionally, Americans, self important Americans think they can just dabble their toe in it. Take a hallucinogenic brew yak and think their world changed. So Aaron was on a podcast discussing what this psychedelic te did for him. He was a very deep and meaningful a couple of nights, Sarah Money and I came back and knew that I was never going to be the same. And like you said, it doesn't you don't do that. And then for me, I didn't do that and think, oh, I'm never playing football again. No, it gave me a deep and meaningful appreciation for life. I really feel like that set me on my course to be able to go back in to my job and have a different perspective on things, and then to be way more free at work as a leader, as a teammate, as a friend, as a lover. And I really feel like that experience paved the way for me to have the best season in my career. All Right, he used the word lover. We're not allowed to use that on this show ever, under any circumstances. So Aaron drank a psychedelic tea that made him hallucinate and yak, and he said it took him to a different realm. Aaron, I'm older than you. What happened to me too. It college, I had six rum drinks in ninety minutes. I saw weird things in Yak two. I moved into a different realm. It was the realm of that's the worst damn hangover I've ever had in my life, and it changed me. The next morning, I absolutely made a point in my life to never drink Captain Morgan's again. Aaron. Lots of people have tried this psychedelic tea. They're called hippies, burnouts, and affluent white people with too much time on their hands and nobody in their life to call out their crap. Aaron's got no owner, no real relationship with his brother or his parents, and no wife. I'm semi serious here, but I liked my pro athletes to be married to strong women. They call you out in their crap. I got into an argument with a friend not long ago. My wife told me, right to my face, be a man, call him, don't be passive aggressive. She was right. I was wrong. Had I been single, I would have become self absorbed, pointing fingers. Kevin Durance had some weird decisions in recent years. Do you think if he was married he went to his wife and said, I'm gonna leave Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Steve Kerr, the best owner GM in the league, and I'm gonna go and play with Kyrie Irving. His wife would have said, getting the damn phone, have lunch, figure it out. You're leaving by yourself, Kyrie Irving, I'm not getting a vaxed. I believe if Kyrie Irving was married, his wife would have said, get to a damn pharmacy. You're part of a team. Get over yourself. James Harden, Aaron Rodgers, rich, getting older, single, no woman to hold you accountable. You look at those Super Bowls. A lot of married dudes, Mannings are married, Brady's married, Russell Wilson married. Big Ben was in all sorts of trouble when he wasn't married. Then he got married, got a little heavy, didn't work out as hard, but I liked him more y Kyrie Kyler Murray this offseason. My takeaway on him, honestly about two weeks ago. Dude needs to get married, get off the video games. Maybe I'm semi serious, but women hold us accountable. Guys when they get rich and older and single, get really self absorbed. Who holds Aaron accountable. No owner in Green Bay to call him on his crap. Fake Hollywood friends aren't going to do it. Who who holds him accountable doesn't have a relationship with his mom or his dad. I don't think he has much of one with his brother. The best people in the world when yourself absorbed to have his friends are from Hollywood. Tell you how great you are. Get you on Instagram, clicks count moves up, Come on man, stability. It matters. When guys Bill Simmons came on the show and we once discussed this, Aaron won a super Bowl, Colin wasn't as rich and then talk to his family. We all need his guys, somebody to hold us accountable. I've seen rich guys my entire life. Single. Later in life, they start collecting things cars, watches, girl friends, surfboards. Nobody to go, bro, Is it all about you? How about collect one real relationship? I don't know. Entering a new realm, dude, it's a psychedelic tea. Lots of people have had it and they yak. Aaron said, when I woke up from that Matt it was like the first day of my life. The only thing that changed was the smell of that carpet, you yacht on. It's time to get over yourself. Concentrate on teammates, others, winning more football games. Stop losing it home, Stop seeking attention. I got nothing against having a girlfriend named blue of Earth. I really don't sounds fascinating. I probably at one point I wanted a girlfriend named after a color or a planet. But I ain't buying it. You hippies, you burnouts, you dlist actors, you rich single white guys with nobody to hold you accountable like a strong other person in your life. You think you've entered a new realm, same old realm, self importance. I love that story, and I was really gonna I had really gone into a glass half full. Aaron Rodgers says a couple of weeks ago. But you do a ninety minute, two hour podcast on hallucinogenic T. You know a lot of this stuff. There's cultures all over the world thirteen hundred, fourteen hundred, you know BCAC whenever, and they take it very seriously. It's medicinal's there's great religious connections. I have nothing against that hallucinogenic T. I read about it this morning. Into those cultures. It's very serious. The idea that are rich people and affluent people and single people can just swoop on in, have it and think they're life is changing. I'm gonna believe the people who created it, the people who have relied on it, the cultures that have been taking it daily, perhaps for years and years and years. It's a little more serious for them, and I respect what they've created, found and how it's used medicinally. Hollywood peeps, rich single quarterbacks. I'm gonna take a pass on it. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. All of us in life do better when we are supported, young, middle aged, or old. It matters, right. I was not a big fans of Tua as a franchise quarterback, especially in a division with somebody like Josh Allen, Bigger, stronger, more athletic. I think you go into a game with a major debt if you have two and they have Josh Allen. That said, can he become a chise quarterback Kirk Cousins level could win a division, maybe, could maybe win a playoff game, but not like elite. I think it's possible. But the greatest example of what is happening in the National Football League, and it's happened rather quickly. Like many cultural changes. You couldn't shoot three pointers unless you were a guard, and then like two years later, you had to shoot three pointers if you were a center. It's happening in the NFL very very quickly. It's taken about two to three years. Once Brady and Belichick broke up, and it was very clear that Brady was seventy five percent of the equation of winning right. We argued for years it was fifty fifty. Many of you argued it was sixty forty, seventy thirty. Belichick, No, it's not, No, it is not. Mahomes has proven love Andy Reid, it's the quarterback. Brady proves love the coach. It's the quarterback. And two is the greatest example. He entered the NFL defensive head coach, intense defensive head coach. The relationship was all about agitation and turbulence. He didn't get the weapons he needed. It was going to be a run first play defense and special teams organization, and there are constant rumors of him being replaced, and it affected him entering a new offensive head coach, only nice things support twenty four to seven at the podium, got him great weapons, and he has had the best camp easily from all the Miami media observers of his life. Everything there is aid and support, and he's playing better. That's why I think both Kirk Cousins and Tuah, who had great defensive coaches, are both going to pop now with offensive coaches defensive coaches. Wake up Belichick, Pete Carroll, Mike Zimmer, Vic Fangil, Brian Flores Air on the side of overly optimistic and overly supportive Brandon Staley with the Chargers fourth and eight deep in our own territory, let's go whether I trust Justin Herbert. That doesn't get you in trouble fighting with your quarterback, does John Gruden may have imploded in Las Vegas. He certainly did, but when he got there day one, he was supportive of Derek Carr. I love Derek Carr, pro bowler Derek Carr, and Derek Carr flourished. Wasn't a great team, but flourished under John Gruden. I think Belichick's doing a disservice to Mac Jones using a defensive coordinator and a quote committee to call plays. Really going to a game with Shanahan the floor, Andy Reid McVeigh, Really, you think you're gonna win that battle? That's a disservice to me to mac Jones, whether you like Tuah or not. And I could go either way. Mostly I think he's a tad small wish he was a little more athletic. The idea now that Miami has quickly pivoted to the right side of the ball in twenty twenty two is reason for all the optimism down in South Florida. I think he's gonna have a really nice year, and I think they're gonna make the playoffs. And all of us young, old, middle age all performed better men women, doesn't matter when people believe in us and support us. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a Empacific heardline. So I and this Brady story is interesting. So Tom Brady, according to reports now was talking to the Miami Dolphins his last year in New England, and he was talking with Miami the last couple of years because he wanted to get into ownership. And I'm reading stories this morning, he was talking with co owner of the Miami Dolphins, Bruce Beale. Now, when you own a franchise, sort of like being a parent, I'm more responsible for certain things in the house as a parent than my kids. I think the owners are val ultimately more responsible for stuff in the organization than like a player or an employee. You owned the team. That's why the Washington Commanders, I think they should strip that owner of ownership of the team. It's a circus and it all starts at the top. But when I see some of the pearl clutching here Brady's four year run of talking to other teams, it's a bad look for the goat. Well, let's see Michael Jordan, right after he left the Bulls was in a relationship with Abe Pollen about owning a team the Wizards. Derek Jeter, five minutes after retiring, was in a relationship with the Florida Marlin's about owning a team. Tom Brady, as his career ends, apparently had a rich guy with a yacht that he occasionally hung out with and they talked about owning a team. And I saw two months ago there was a story that the Las Vegas, the city of Las Vegas make it an NBA team, and there's already speculation will Lebraun own it. I'm supposed to be worked up about this. I don't see it as tampering. I think when you're Jeter, MJ, Brady, Lebroun, you got a network three four or five hundred million what EV's and you're ending a career and you've got rich friends. You know what you never see from Brady, Jeter, Michael Jordan and Lebron. You never see this. You ever go rent a boat in the summer, I do it like three times. You never see those guys at a boat rental. Do you know why that is? Because they have rich friends with yachts and they go to Santro pay and they talk business. Come on, stop the pearl clutching. We know certain things in life are true. Joey and I have talked about this for a year. The NBA is paralyzed by tanking. We do not want communication. The hell it's called an iPhone. I mean, give me a break. MJ ended his career, had a relationship with an owner. Jeter did. Peyton Manning, by the way, was all sorts of talking to the Tennessee Titans. I read he decided I didn't want to do that front office stuff. Do you think when Peyton Manning talked to the Titans about the front office, it wasn't potentially discussed that, Hey, could I own like ten percent? They probably said, we don't want to give it up. We own an NFL team. I'm just not worked up. I mean, good god, Tom Brady is still playing, and he's already got a deal with Fox. It's already done. Seine Field delivered. So I think when you look at these all time wealthy legends, and these athletes now are five hundred million, six hundred million, this is what Patrick Mahomes is going to be doing in twelve years. Hunt family, some family, they're gonna be talking about it. Now, the Hunt family would for it's him and not somebody else. But on those yachts and those vacations, not one person is gonna look at Tom Brady's career in twenty years and go, oh my god, seven eight Super Bowls, Atlanta went to Tampa. But you know at the end of his career he was talking to the co owner or the Dolphins. I just I can't live with that. Sometimes the media, I want to say, sometimes we live in this little tunnel. Let's be realistic. Rich people live differently. Rich athletes at the end of their careers have friends in sports. Those rich guys own everything, but you don't want They don't mostly have. They don't have cool friends. Derek Jeter's a cool friend, Michael Jordan's a cool friend. Lebron's a cool friend, Peyton Manning's a cool friend. Tom Brady's a cool friend. Rich people, billionaires have everything they want, but a lot of their friends are just other dorky billionaires. That's why you see him sometimes hanging out with Hollywood people are pro athletes, and those pro athletes or business people and they have a net worth of five hundred million dollars and they don't trust the market all the time, and they've got enough homes and they talk to those guys and say, hey, I'm gonna be a retiring in a couple of years. My wife, Gizelle, she loves Miami. It's an international city and she's an international model. Well you think, can we kick it around in your yacht for a week and talk about it. I'm supposed to get worked up over that. Can't. Can't. I know, I'll give up my journalism badge. I can't get worked up over it. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong Highcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society, and pop culture beat the truth absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays. Facts only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door, because nobs is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights or Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio, Athlete Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Poor Dante Whitner, the former Pro Bowl safety, is listening to this nonsense and he's like, I gotta call my agent and get off this show. This this show is not for me, the pro bowler eleven years, two time Pro Bowl. All right, let's segue into football. So you tell me you're a great player. First round pick Ohio State, and you come into camp and they're changing quarterbacks to Trey Lance and you're sitting there as dbs. You know the game, You've been a pro bowler. How long would it take you, Dante, to say to your buddies in the secondary that dude don't have it, or that guy can play, Is it a series? Is it a throw? Kind of take me through the process of new quarterbacks got the job? How long does it take you as a Pro Bowl, elite American athlete offending that to know he's got it or he doesn't. Well, if you think back to the Colin Kaepernick situation, I was on that team when Alex Smith got hurt mid season and they implemented Colin Kaepernick into the offensive system. We had the same questions, is Colin Kaepernick going to be able to lead us to the championship? And the things that we've seen from him in practice, the ability to run past everybody on defense when he escaped the pocket. Yeah, the zimp that he had from the football with the disguise that we show Colin Kaepernick with Vic Fangio, they're doing the same things right now. They're doing the same things to Trey Lands right now, and he's hurting up with the direct quarterback runs. I've been in practice for six seven days. He's getting outside the pocket and he's moving at a different speed. Not only that he's able to decide for which coverages they're throwing at him, They're throwing a lot of complicated schemes and he's able to locate where to throw the football and he's getting it there. I think that everybody in the organization is happy with Trey Lands and I think he's going to surprise a lot of people this year. Well, Dante is you know, half the game in this league is figuring out what you're gonna see and go into the line. Justin fields, Trevor, Lawrence mac Jones, Zach Wilson getting out of disaster plays. So you think Trey because that the rumor was. I've only met him twice, but when I met him, I thought he was a bright kid. You think he can get out of trouble. I know he can get out of trouble. I've seen it. And even in training camp. You have to know that Kyle Shanahan, he's going to help this kid out as much as he can. He has Deebo, Samuel low quarterback low wrist throws to Deebo Samuel, Brandon and IU And by the way, guys, Brandon and IUK is going to be one of the breakout stars of this year. Every day he's making phenomenal toe tis to toe tap catches in the back of the end zone, side of the end zone, and a lot of that is showing up because of, you know, the work that he put in with Trey Lance in the off season. So I believe that first and second down, with the running game, the offensive line, the scheme deception, taking advantage of defenses and them not knowing where they're supposed to be. I think that that's going to help Trey Lance. The only question is going to be on third down when he comes with complicated schemes blitzes and you have to decipher and figure out what covers their plan and get the ball out on time. I think that he's going to be phenomenal when it comes to that. You know, Dante, I was not to make this a Niner segment, but I was thinking about the Deebo Samuel situation where he basically said, Hey, if you're gonna use me at running back, I want some money for that. And I'm thinking to myself, so when you were a safety and you were a physical safety, if they have said, Dante, we want you to play linebacker thirty five percent of the time and you know you can get your shoulders separated, You're going to have more violent collisions. Dante. It's going to shorten your career. And I this is where I defended Deebo Samuel. I said, you know, if they came to me at this company and said you got to do this, this, this, and it wasn't my wheelhouse, I'm not sure I'd be just like, Okay, fine, I want a longer contract, right because I'm doing stuff I'm not that could be a punitive to my career. So I kind of supported DBA on that and then Debo took the money. But that whole situation. Sometimes athletes are deemed as selfish and you know, I can do this for forty years. You can only play football for so many years. What did you make of the whole Deebo Samuel situation of the running back? Because Kyle he's physical, he coaches like a nineteen seventy nine NFL coach, he does, and THEYDA put stipulations in his contract that if he d rushed for three hundred and eighty yards and a certain amount of touchdowns, he gonna make a million dollars a million and a half. But Deebo Samuel is part of what makes this offense go. Man, you have to think about it like this, and from this perspective. Well, defensive coordinators planned for the forty nine ers, and they put Deebo Samuel in the field, you don't know where he's going to align. Is he going to be out wide? Is he going to be in the slot? Is he going to be in the backfield. If you have a cornerback or a guy that's supposed to match up with Deebo Samuel, you don't want that to distract your defense. Where if they put him in motion, where they put him in the backfield, how do you align? What naturally means you're going to get a lot of zone coverage, which helps your quarterback Trey Lands. So I think that Deebo Samuel. He came out and said it last week in his press conference, he said, you know what, I never said that. I said that I'll do anything to help this team win. And when you look at Deebo Samuel and his body and the statue in the physicality I saw him the other day at practice, Deebo Samuel is a lot bigger than a lot of running backs in this league. I don't think people actually know how big and physical he actually is. He's not the receiver body type, which is why he carved out this new role as the why back, So he's an intricate part of this defense based on alignment, motion shifts, being able to confuse defensive coordinators not knowing what to call, and limiting what they can call against the forty nine or so. I don't think they'll have a problem with Deebo Samuel Carry in the football this year. I supported Kyler Murray probably more than most media. I don't watch all the other media, but my takeaway is what were you before him and what are you now? And what you are now is capable of beating any team in your schedule With Kynor Murray, I didn't like them putting that thing in that contract. I mean, the idea that he could be the best high school quarterback in Texas when the Heisman be Rookie of the Year and he's going home and playing video games for eleven hours is nonsense. If that's the case, then he's the greatest pro athlete in the history of America. But but you know, there's part of me that thinks Jesus, I mean, maybe I don't know, maybe he's I will say this, Dante. The quarterbacks in my like in life that have relied more on instinct. Brett Farve Vic, Big Ben Cam have aged more quickly, they get hit more, They're more instinctual driven. They don't audible out of bad plays is often. So I look at Kyler and I say, my biggest concern isn't the homework. It's that he is what I would call like a FARV, like a band, like a VIC. He is an instinct player more than a prep monster. So my take is he's gonna play about six more years and then we're gonna start see real erosion. But something about the addendum I bothered me. The team put it in more than it was in. How did you view it? It doesn't bother me. You know what, Colin why doesn't bother me is because Colin Murray's game is predicated on playground football. It's not predicated on getting the ball out quickly, decider and what coverage the defenses in getting it out. A system like that, you can see towards the end of the year, second half of the year, he starts to slow down. He starts to take a lot of hits. The defenses start to contain better, and they start to latch onto receivers better and That's why he probably doesn't have to watch a lot of film. But later in his career, when he starts to slow down, that ball has to come out. You have to know what covers their playing. You have to know what blitz is coming, or you won't last long. So I don't have a problem with that putting in this contract because he's not actually getting the ball out where supposed to be on time like a lot of the top quarterbacks. He's just so special when he escapes the pocket. That defense he puts so much pressure on him, and he's just a big play way in the half. So Brady celebrated his forty fifth birthday yesterday, and I know you faced him in Buffalo more than a few times, so take me to the experience, Dante. You know he's not the most athletic. He has a good arm. I always thought he threw a really good, lousy weather football. The way he turns his hips, his ball cuts through win better than most guys do. Josh Allen does too, but he's just got a cannon. When you faced Brady, did it keep you up at night? Was preparation different? He was he playing chess? I mean, you were a smart veteran player, take me to those experiences. What are certain guys that can basically read what you're doing before you do it. They noted down at distance, they know what you played, they know your tendencies, They have all the data or they study it. They've been in the game ten fifteen years and as Tom Brady and as Aaron Rodgers, and there were times where we had to break rules to confuse them. And mainly because every individual out there has to be on his game when it comes to pre snap assignments. But not only assignment. You have to be able to disguise and show certain leverages and your tendencies and your eyes and your feet. So these guys can scan the field within ten seconds and see that the left corners eight yards and the right corners at three yards, and they know they discovered two to this side and cover forward to this side. You see that, and that's how they beat you. Or they'll get into the line of scrimmage and they'll go hut, hut, and then the guys that aren't, you know, cool and calm and collective out there, they'll show the coverage and then he already knows where the weakness is and what to check because he has that type of chemistry with his players. So when you beat these guys, or you disguise against them and you want to affect Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, you have to hold a lot of the coverages as long as possible. Sometimes sacrifice your coverage for disguise only to get him off of the weakness of the coverage. And that's why Vic Fangio was brilliant when we played those guys. And I don't think we ever lost to Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady or any of the top quarterbacks. Is because sometimes we broke rules. We put wide receive I mean linebackers Patrick Willison the borrow moment on receivers and they don't play man coverage so that we could double guys outside. We had to break systematically what we did to even have a chance to beat them. And that's why there's too many young guys on defense in the league right now. Tom Brady can be able to he can play till these fifty. Yeah, your first career interception was off Brady, You know that, right, your first career Yeah, first one, and then I came to the sideline and my coach showed me, hey, you was in the wrong leverage, I said, coach. I wheeled around, I got the interception, almost ran the game. We haven't beating these guys in nine years. That is funny, Dante. What do you do with yourself now? You had a great career. What are you doing now? I'm going to my fifth year with NBC covering the forty nine ers. I'm in studio color commentator with CBS. So I have eleven college games this year. We're last year. Yeah, Sin San Jose State game, Oregon State UNLV. You know, Joe gets getting my feet with in that game. Lern the cadience. And then most importantly, I'm a partner of the Family Office, and what we do is we give the players the blueprint to generational wealth once they graduate, I mean once they make the money. So a lot of the guys come from backgrounds and parental units where they don't have people to teach them how to make money and compound interests and the rule of seventy two and how to double the principle and to build passive income before you retire. So most importantly, we're trying to change a lot of the guys. They go through financial distress. So they can just flourish and retire when they want to. Good for you. You're crushing it, Dante Whittner, Come on again. I loved having you. I will you know. I'm here with the forty nine is. I'm actually about to hit over the practice right now, so I'll be able to give you detailed information on how Trey Lance is looking. I can tell you right now he's gonna surprise a lot of people with the throws he made yesterday wanting the back of the end zone to Brandon. I you beating the double team to the right side. I was impressed. How about that. That's good news, Dante, great senior. Good seeing you too. I look forward to seeing you. So you guys have a great day, all right. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. Nick Saban, this is kind of daunting for the rest of college football. Nick Saban, it's just funny to read this headline. Nick Saban. Last season was a rebuilding year. They went eleven and one or something. Here's Nick Saban. Last year we had kind of a rebuilding year. So we should have nine starters back on offense, nine on defense, but six guys go out early for the drafts, and now we have five back on offense and seven back on decense. So that in and of itself creates a few more question marks, but it also creates opportunity for other players to be able to shine in the program and contribute in a positive way, you know, to illustrate how far Alabama is ahead of college football. So let's just take the other big boys, Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, just the other people that breathe the same air that Alabama does. None of them compare. Let's take Ohio State since Ryan Day became coach. Their defense was sixty first last year, fifty fourth the year before. They were pushed around by Michigan and Oregon last year. Alabama never gets pushed around, so they're not physically defensively in Alabama's league, they got a whole Oklahoma Similarly, Some of that is they're built. I mean, when's the last great Oklahoma defense. They're built in the Big twelve, the way the style of play is, they're built to score. They don't have the big bodies of Alabama, so they're not close Clemson. Clemson doesn't recruit consistently on Alabama's level. Fairly close, but they don't. They also still lose games to like pitt An, NC State. They are not as consistent at Alabama. Georgia they can't get the quarterback right. They're the only program that consistently recruits to Alabama standard. But they they I mean, Alabama's got like first round quarterbacks. They're gonna have Bryce Young and they've had two, and they have Mac Jones and the Georgia can't get the quarterback right. Only Alabama checks. And LSU is just too chaotic with their coaching staff every three years. That's where they're going cleaning their house. Alabama is the only one to me that really checks like the four or five key boxes. Recruiting A plus, physical defense a plus, quarterback play a to A plus, consistency of coaching and staff mostly coaching A plus, and you can't push them around. Nobody's faster, nobody's tougher. They can play multiple ways. They don't really have weaknesses. Weakness for Alabama is usually somebody gets hurt. Last year against Georgia, they lost both their thousand yard receivers, and that's why they lost. No knock at Georgia, congratulations for the Natty, but that's why they lost. They you know, if you lose your two best offensive players, it kind of when you're playing Georgia or playing Bama or Texas A and and M, it's gonna hurt. But I mean they even amongst the the I mean the upper crust of the sport. Everybody else has like a whole. Georgia can't get in the quarterback right. Ohio State's not nearly as physical defensively. LSU is running through coaches, head coaches all the time. They are a totally different standard.

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So we're just we were a little unsettled this morning that Joy was four to five minutes late. I appreciate the concern. Yes, I should have text, but I didn't think that the the time proximity me mena fucking in with that urgent. But I appreciate the concern. Yes, I couldn't get the lid off of this stupid new shampoo and it's sevey behind a couple of minutes. But we made it. I'm like, let's get Shanks on the phone. We got a problem. I appreciate that. I know that people will be looking for me. That's good news. We're always looking out for your kid. All right. Oh wow, So let's just start two stories today. We're gonna talk quarterbacks, and these are quite divergent stories. Deshaun Watson six games suspension. The NFL said, nah, nah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna make it way worse than that. NFL Roger Goodell have said, yeah, we're gonna peel that. So ay, it's the right move. I said, yes day, I would take six and move it to twelve. I would give Deshaun Watson six for a preponderance of evidence that he's creepy inappropriate, and then I would give him six for lying because he's never been honest about this, and you can light to a lot of people. I guess in America, don't light to judges. The second thing is Deshaun Watson in the NFLPA could sue and he could actually in an appeal play Week one. There are a lot of moving parts, there's a lot of variables, but I think my takeaway on this is Roger Goodell is essentially saying, you're going to take the hit for this, not the league and not me. I'm protecting the brand, I'm protecting the shield, I'm protecting the league. We are going to get the strongest punishment possible and we may lose in court, doubt it, but we may lose in court. But when we do, we can look our fans and consumers and advertisers in the eye and the TV networks and say we were on the right side of this. That's what I think Goodell is saying. We're on the right side of this. We might not win. Goodell's smart. He's been always underrated by I think fans in the media. This is one of the hardest businesses in the world. It's the biggest pro league. It's got thirty two needy billionaires, many of your employees are rock stars in America, and you have to dole out punishment occasionally. And I do think and I like Roger at met him a couple of times at dinner, a couple of times. I think he's missed a couple of times, been a little tone deaf. Men are often tone deaf, and I think he knows it. And I think he said I got about ten twelve years left on this. I'm going to correct that. So I'm going to go all in on this. I according to people I trust, one of them being Charles Robinson, an excellent reporter. He says Roger Goodell does not want him playing in week twelve. Twelve was the minimum number of games that the NFL wanted, and that to me, when I saw the six, I said yesterday on the show, I would double it. You gotta pay a price for lying to a judge. I mean, it's like in anything. If I have my kids that it's not nearly this important. If they're straight with me, I'm much more willing to compromise. If they lie to me, I'm much more willing to be punitive. So I like what the league is doing. They're saying, okay, we're gonna go all in on this. If we lose, Okay, advertisers, networks, fans, women we wanted, we may lose in court. We were on the right side of this, all right. My second quarterback story. This is a doozy, and it really is. This is this is a doozy. So there was a headline yesterday on the Internet from a site called out kick. It's a sports political website. The headline alone is one of the great headlines in the history of quarterbacks. I'll read it to you. Aaron Rodgers girlfriend Blew of Earth, who had to address which rumors earlier this summer, reacts to the Packers quarterbacks self love journey via a psychedelic brew used by Amazonian tribes that cause hallucinations. There's like six names of bands in there. If you have a garage ban, you're thinking of a name which rumors is way up there, only to be followed by psychedelic brew. So Aaron went and he experimented with actually a very ancient and serious healing method. Serious and like Central America, South America, they take it seriously. Occasionally, Americans, self important Americans think they can just dabble their toe in it. Take a hallucinogenic brew yak and think their world changed. So Aaron was on a podcast discussing what this psychedelic te did for him. He was a very deep and meaningful a couple of nights, Sarah Money and I came back and knew that I was never going to be the same. And like you said, it doesn't you don't do that. And then for me, I didn't do that and think, oh, I'm never playing football again. No, it gave me a deep and meaningful appreciation for life. I really feel like that set me on my course to be able to go back in to my job and have a different perspective on things, and then to be way more free at work as a leader, as a teammate, as a friend, as a lover. And I really feel like that experience paved the way for me to have the best season in my career. All Right, he used the word lover. We're not allowed to use that on this show ever, under any circumstances. So Aaron drank a psychedelic tea that made him hallucinate and yak, and he said it took him to a different realm. Aaron, I'm older than you. What happened to me too. It college, I had six rum drinks in ninety minutes. I saw weird things in Yak two. I moved into a different realm. It was the realm of that's the worst damn hangover I've ever had in my life, and it changed me. The next morning, I absolutely made a point in my life to never drink Captain Morgan's again. Aaron. Lots of people have tried this psychedelic tea. They're called hippies, burnouts, and affluent white people with too much time on their hands and nobody in their life to call out their crap. Aaron's got no owner, no real relationship with his brother or his parents, and no wife. I'm semi serious here, but I liked my pro athletes to be married to strong women. They call you out in their crap. I got into an argument with a friend not long ago. My wife told me, right to my face, be a man, call him, don't be passive aggressive. She was right. I was wrong. Had I been single, I would have become self absorbed, pointing fingers. Kevin Durance had some weird decisions in recent years. Do you think if he was married he went to his wife and said, I'm gonna leave Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Steve Kerr, the best owner GM in the league, and I'm gonna go and play with Kyrie Irving. His wife would have said, getting the damn phone, have lunch, figure it out. You're leaving by yourself, Kyrie Irving, I'm not getting a vaxed. I believe if Kyrie Irving was married, his wife would have said, get to a damn pharmacy. You're part of a team. Get over yourself. James Harden, Aaron Rodgers, rich, getting older, single, no woman to hold you accountable. You look at those Super Bowls. A lot of married dudes, Mannings are married, Brady's married, Russell Wilson married. Big Ben was in all sorts of trouble when he wasn't married. Then he got married, got a little heavy, didn't work out as hard, but I liked him more y Kyrie Kyler Murray this offseason. My takeaway on him, honestly about two weeks ago. Dude needs to get married, get off the video games. Maybe I'm semi serious, but women hold us accountable. Guys when they get rich and older and single, get really self absorbed. Who holds Aaron accountable. No owner in Green Bay to call him on his crap. Fake Hollywood friends aren't going to do it. Who who holds him accountable doesn't have a relationship with his mom or his dad. I don't think he has much of one with his brother. The best people in the world when yourself absorbed to have his friends are from Hollywood. Tell you how great you are. Get you on Instagram, clicks count moves up, Come on man, stability. It matters. When guys Bill Simmons came on the show and we once discussed this, Aaron won a super Bowl, Colin wasn't as rich and then talk to his family. We all need his guys, somebody to hold us accountable. I've seen rich guys my entire life. Single. Later in life, they start collecting things cars, watches, girl friends, surfboards. Nobody to go, bro, Is it all about you? How about collect one real relationship? I don't know. Entering a new realm, dude, it's a psychedelic tea. Lots of people have had it and they yak. Aaron said, when I woke up from that Matt it was like the first day of my life. The only thing that changed was the smell of that carpet, you yacht on. It's time to get over yourself. Concentrate on teammates, others, winning more football games. Stop losing it home, Stop seeking attention. I got nothing against having a girlfriend named blue of Earth. I really don't sounds fascinating. I probably at one point I wanted a girlfriend named after a color or a planet. But I ain't buying it. You hippies, you burnouts, you dlist actors, you rich single white guys with nobody to hold you accountable like a strong other person in your life. You think you've entered a new realm, same old realm, self importance. I love that story, and I was really gonna I had really gone into a glass half full. Aaron Rodgers says a couple of weeks ago. But you do a ninety minute, two hour podcast on hallucinogenic T. You know a lot of this stuff. There's cultures all over the world thirteen hundred, fourteen hundred, you know BCAC whenever, and they take it very seriously. It's medicinal's there's great religious connections. I have nothing against that hallucinogenic T. I read about it this morning. Into those cultures. It's very serious. The idea that are rich people and affluent people and single people can just swoop on in, have it and think they're life is changing. I'm gonna believe the people who created it, the people who have relied on it, the cultures that have been taking it daily, perhaps for years and years and years. It's a little more serious for them, and I respect what they've created, found and how it's used medicinally. Hollywood peeps, rich single quarterbacks. I'm gonna take a pass on it. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. All of us in life do better when we are supported, young, middle aged, or old. It matters, right. I was not a big fans of Tua as a franchise quarterback, especially in a division with somebody like Josh Allen, Bigger, stronger, more athletic. I think you go into a game with a major debt if you have two and they have Josh Allen. That said, can he become a chise quarterback Kirk Cousins level could win a division, maybe, could maybe win a playoff game, but not like elite. I think it's possible. But the greatest example of what is happening in the National Football League, and it's happened rather quickly. Like many cultural changes. You couldn't shoot three pointers unless you were a guard, and then like two years later, you had to shoot three pointers if you were a center. It's happening in the NFL very very quickly. It's taken about two to three years. Once Brady and Belichick broke up, and it was very clear that Brady was seventy five percent of the equation of winning right. We argued for years it was fifty fifty. Many of you argued it was sixty forty, seventy thirty. Belichick, No, it's not, No, it is not. Mahomes has proven love Andy Reid, it's the quarterback. Brady proves love the coach. It's the quarterback. And two is the greatest example. He entered the NFL defensive head coach, intense defensive head coach. The relationship was all about agitation and turbulence. He didn't get the weapons he needed. It was going to be a run first play defense and special teams organization, and there are constant rumors of him being replaced, and it affected him entering a new offensive head coach, only nice things support twenty four to seven at the podium, got him great weapons, and he has had the best camp easily from all the Miami media observers of his life. Everything there is aid and support, and he's playing better. That's why I think both Kirk Cousins and Tuah, who had great defensive coaches, are both going to pop now with offensive coaches defensive coaches. Wake up Belichick, Pete Carroll, Mike Zimmer, Vic Fangil, Brian Flores Air on the side of overly optimistic and overly supportive Brandon Staley with the Chargers fourth and eight deep in our own territory, let's go whether I trust Justin Herbert. That doesn't get you in trouble fighting with your quarterback, does John Gruden may have imploded in Las Vegas. He certainly did, but when he got there day one, he was supportive of Derek Carr. I love Derek Carr, pro bowler Derek Carr, and Derek Carr flourished. Wasn't a great team, but flourished under John Gruden. I think Belichick's doing a disservice to Mac Jones using a defensive coordinator and a quote committee to call plays. Really going to a game with Shanahan the floor, Andy Reid McVeigh, Really, you think you're gonna win that battle? That's a disservice to me to mac Jones, whether you like Tuah or not. And I could go either way. Mostly I think he's a tad small wish he was a little more athletic. The idea now that Miami has quickly pivoted to the right side of the ball in twenty twenty two is reason for all the optimism down in South Florida. I think he's gonna have a really nice year, and I think they're gonna make the playoffs. And all of us young, old, middle age all performed better men women, doesn't matter when people believe in us and support us. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a Empacific heardline. So I and this Brady story is interesting. So Tom Brady, according to reports now was talking to the Miami Dolphins his last year in New England, and he was talking with Miami the last couple of years because he wanted to get into ownership. And I'm reading stories this morning, he was talking with co owner of the Miami Dolphins, Bruce Beale. Now, when you own a franchise, sort of like being a parent, I'm more responsible for certain things in the house as a parent than my kids. I think the owners are val ultimately more responsible for stuff in the organization than like a player or an employee. You owned the team. That's why the Washington Commanders, I think they should strip that owner of ownership of the team. It's a circus and it all starts at the top. But when I see some of the pearl clutching here Brady's four year run of talking to other teams, it's a bad look for the goat. Well, let's see Michael Jordan, right after he left the Bulls was in a relationship with Abe Pollen about owning a team the Wizards. Derek Jeter, five minutes after retiring, was in a relationship with the Florida Marlin's about owning a team. Tom Brady, as his career ends, apparently had a rich guy with a yacht that he occasionally hung out with and they talked about owning a team. And I saw two months ago there was a story that the Las Vegas, the city of Las Vegas make it an NBA team, and there's already speculation will Lebraun own it. I'm supposed to be worked up about this. I don't see it as tampering. I think when you're Jeter, MJ, Brady, Lebroun, you got a network three four or five hundred million what EV's and you're ending a career and you've got rich friends. You know what you never see from Brady, Jeter, Michael Jordan and Lebron. You never see this. You ever go rent a boat in the summer, I do it like three times. You never see those guys at a boat rental. Do you know why that is? Because they have rich friends with yachts and they go to Santro pay and they talk business. Come on, stop the pearl clutching. We know certain things in life are true. Joey and I have talked about this for a year. The NBA is paralyzed by tanking. We do not want communication. The hell it's called an iPhone. I mean, give me a break. MJ ended his career, had a relationship with an owner. Jeter did. Peyton Manning, by the way, was all sorts of talking to the Tennessee Titans. I read he decided I didn't want to do that front office stuff. Do you think when Peyton Manning talked to the Titans about the front office, it wasn't potentially discussed that, Hey, could I own like ten percent? They probably said, we don't want to give it up. We own an NFL team. I'm just not worked up. I mean, good god, Tom Brady is still playing, and he's already got a deal with Fox. It's already done. Seine Field delivered. So I think when you look at these all time wealthy legends, and these athletes now are five hundred million, six hundred million, this is what Patrick Mahomes is going to be doing in twelve years. Hunt family, some family, they're gonna be talking about it. Now, the Hunt family would for it's him and not somebody else. But on those yachts and those vacations, not one person is gonna look at Tom Brady's career in twenty years and go, oh my god, seven eight Super Bowls, Atlanta went to Tampa. But you know at the end of his career he was talking to the co owner or the Dolphins. I just I can't live with that. Sometimes the media, I want to say, sometimes we live in this little tunnel. Let's be realistic. Rich people live differently. Rich athletes at the end of their careers have friends in sports. Those rich guys own everything, but you don't want They don't mostly have. They don't have cool friends. Derek Jeter's a cool friend, Michael Jordan's a cool friend. Lebron's a cool friend, Peyton Manning's a cool friend. Tom Brady's a cool friend. Rich people, billionaires have everything they want, but a lot of their friends are just other dorky billionaires. That's why you see him sometimes hanging out with Hollywood people are pro athletes, and those pro athletes or business people and they have a net worth of five hundred million dollars and they don't trust the market all the time, and they've got enough homes and they talk to those guys and say, hey, I'm gonna be a retiring in a couple of years. My wife, Gizelle, she loves Miami. It's an international city and she's an international model. Well you think, can we kick it around in your yacht for a week and talk about it. I'm supposed to get worked up over that. Can't. Can't. I know, I'll give up my journalism badge. I can't get worked up over it. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong Highcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society, and pop culture beat the truth absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays. Facts only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door, because nobs is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights or Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio, Athlete Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Poor Dante Whitner, the former Pro Bowl safety, is listening to this nonsense and he's like, I gotta call my agent and get off this show. This this show is not for me, the pro bowler eleven years, two time Pro Bowl. All right, let's segue into football. So you tell me you're a great player. First round pick Ohio State, and you come into camp and they're changing quarterbacks to Trey Lance and you're sitting there as dbs. You know the game, You've been a pro bowler. How long would it take you, Dante, to say to your buddies in the secondary that dude don't have it, or that guy can play, Is it a series? Is it a throw? Kind of take me through the process of new quarterbacks got the job? How long does it take you as a Pro Bowl, elite American athlete offending that to know he's got it or he doesn't. Well, if you think back to the Colin Kaepernick situation, I was on that team when Alex Smith got hurt mid season and they implemented Colin Kaepernick into the offensive system. We had the same questions, is Colin Kaepernick going to be able to lead us to the championship? And the things that we've seen from him in practice, the ability to run past everybody on defense when he escaped the pocket. Yeah, the zimp that he had from the football with the disguise that we show Colin Kaepernick with Vic Fangio, they're doing the same things right now. They're doing the same things to Trey Lands right now, and he's hurting up with the direct quarterback runs. I've been in practice for six seven days. He's getting outside the pocket and he's moving at a different speed. Not only that he's able to decide for which coverages they're throwing at him, They're throwing a lot of complicated schemes and he's able to locate where to throw the football and he's getting it there. I think that everybody in the organization is happy with Trey Lands and I think he's going to surprise a lot of people this year. Well, Dante is you know, half the game in this league is figuring out what you're gonna see and go into the line. Justin fields, Trevor, Lawrence mac Jones, Zach Wilson getting out of disaster plays. So you think Trey because that the rumor was. I've only met him twice, but when I met him, I thought he was a bright kid. You think he can get out of trouble. I know he can get out of trouble. I've seen it. And even in training camp. You have to know that Kyle Shanahan, he's going to help this kid out as much as he can. He has Deebo, Samuel low quarterback low wrist throws to Deebo Samuel, Brandon and IU And by the way, guys, Brandon and IUK is going to be one of the breakout stars of this year. Every day he's making phenomenal toe tis to toe tap catches in the back of the end zone, side of the end zone, and a lot of that is showing up because of, you know, the work that he put in with Trey Lance in the off season. So I believe that first and second down, with the running game, the offensive line, the scheme deception, taking advantage of defenses and them not knowing where they're supposed to be. I think that that's going to help Trey Lance. The only question is going to be on third down when he comes with complicated schemes blitzes and you have to decipher and figure out what covers their plan and get the ball out on time. I think that he's going to be phenomenal when it comes to that. You know, Dante, I was not to make this a Niner segment, but I was thinking about the Deebo Samuel situation where he basically said, Hey, if you're gonna use me at running back, I want some money for that. And I'm thinking to myself, so when you were a safety and you were a physical safety, if they have said, Dante, we want you to play linebacker thirty five percent of the time and you know you can get your shoulders separated, You're going to have more violent collisions. Dante. It's going to shorten your career. And I this is where I defended Deebo Samuel. I said, you know, if they came to me at this company and said you got to do this, this, this, and it wasn't my wheelhouse, I'm not sure I'd be just like, Okay, fine, I want a longer contract, right because I'm doing stuff I'm not that could be a punitive to my career. So I kind of supported DBA on that and then Debo took the money. But that whole situation. Sometimes athletes are deemed as selfish and you know, I can do this for forty years. You can only play football for so many years. What did you make of the whole Deebo Samuel situation of the running back? Because Kyle he's physical, he coaches like a nineteen seventy nine NFL coach, he does, and THEYDA put stipulations in his contract that if he d rushed for three hundred and eighty yards and a certain amount of touchdowns, he gonna make a million dollars a million and a half. But Deebo Samuel is part of what makes this offense go. Man, you have to think about it like this, and from this perspective. Well, defensive coordinators planned for the forty nine ers, and they put Deebo Samuel in the field, you don't know where he's going to align. Is he going to be out wide? Is he going to be in the slot? Is he going to be in the backfield. If you have a cornerback or a guy that's supposed to match up with Deebo Samuel, you don't want that to distract your defense. Where if they put him in motion, where they put him in the backfield, how do you align? What naturally means you're going to get a lot of zone coverage, which helps your quarterback Trey Lands. So I think that Deebo Samuel. He came out and said it last week in his press conference, he said, you know what, I never said that. I said that I'll do anything to help this team win. And when you look at Deebo Samuel and his body and the statue in the physicality I saw him the other day at practice, Deebo Samuel is a lot bigger than a lot of running backs in this league. I don't think people actually know how big and physical he actually is. He's not the receiver body type, which is why he carved out this new role as the why back, So he's an intricate part of this defense based on alignment, motion shifts, being able to confuse defensive coordinators not knowing what to call, and limiting what they can call against the forty nine or so. I don't think they'll have a problem with Deebo Samuel Carry in the football this year. I supported Kyler Murray probably more than most media. I don't watch all the other media, but my takeaway is what were you before him and what are you now? And what you are now is capable of beating any team in your schedule With Kynor Murray, I didn't like them putting that thing in that contract. I mean, the idea that he could be the best high school quarterback in Texas when the Heisman be Rookie of the Year and he's going home and playing video games for eleven hours is nonsense. If that's the case, then he's the greatest pro athlete in the history of America. But but you know, there's part of me that thinks Jesus, I mean, maybe I don't know, maybe he's I will say this, Dante. The quarterbacks in my like in life that have relied more on instinct. Brett Farve Vic, Big Ben Cam have aged more quickly, they get hit more, They're more instinctual driven. They don't audible out of bad plays is often. So I look at Kyler and I say, my biggest concern isn't the homework. It's that he is what I would call like a FARV, like a band, like a VIC. He is an instinct player more than a prep monster. So my take is he's gonna play about six more years and then we're gonna start see real erosion. But something about the addendum I bothered me. The team put it in more than it was in. How did you view it? It doesn't bother me. You know what, Colin why doesn't bother me is because Colin Murray's game is predicated on playground football. It's not predicated on getting the ball out quickly, decider and what coverage the defenses in getting it out. A system like that, you can see towards the end of the year, second half of the year, he starts to slow down. He starts to take a lot of hits. The defenses start to contain better, and they start to latch onto receivers better and That's why he probably doesn't have to watch a lot of film. But later in his career, when he starts to slow down, that ball has to come out. You have to know what covers their playing. You have to know what blitz is coming, or you won't last long. So I don't have a problem with that putting in this contract because he's not actually getting the ball out where supposed to be on time like a lot of the top quarterbacks. He's just so special when he escapes the pocket. That defense he puts so much pressure on him, and he's just a big play way in the half. So Brady celebrated his forty fifth birthday yesterday, and I know you faced him in Buffalo more than a few times, so take me to the experience, Dante. You know he's not the most athletic. He has a good arm. I always thought he threw a really good, lousy weather football. The way he turns his hips, his ball cuts through win better than most guys do. Josh Allen does too, but he's just got a cannon. When you faced Brady, did it keep you up at night? Was preparation different? He was he playing chess? I mean, you were a smart veteran player, take me to those experiences. What are certain guys that can basically read what you're doing before you do it. They noted down at distance, they know what you played, they know your tendencies, They have all the data or they study it. They've been in the game ten fifteen years and as Tom Brady and as Aaron Rodgers, and there were times where we had to break rules to confuse them. And mainly because every individual out there has to be on his game when it comes to pre snap assignments. But not only assignment. You have to be able to disguise and show certain leverages and your tendencies and your eyes and your feet. So these guys can scan the field within ten seconds and see that the left corners eight yards and the right corners at three yards, and they know they discovered two to this side and cover forward to this side. You see that, and that's how they beat you. Or they'll get into the line of scrimmage and they'll go hut, hut, and then the guys that aren't, you know, cool and calm and collective out there, they'll show the coverage and then he already knows where the weakness is and what to check because he has that type of chemistry with his players. So when you beat these guys, or you disguise against them and you want to affect Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, you have to hold a lot of the coverages as long as possible. Sometimes sacrifice your coverage for disguise only to get him off of the weakness of the coverage. And that's why Vic Fangio was brilliant when we played those guys. And I don't think we ever lost to Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady or any of the top quarterbacks. Is because sometimes we broke rules. We put wide receive I mean linebackers Patrick Willison the borrow moment on receivers and they don't play man coverage so that we could double guys outside. We had to break systematically what we did to even have a chance to beat them. And that's why there's too many young guys on defense in the league right now. Tom Brady can be able to he can play till these fifty. Yeah, your first career interception was off Brady, You know that, right, your first career Yeah, first one, and then I came to the sideline and my coach showed me, hey, you was in the wrong leverage, I said, coach. I wheeled around, I got the interception, almost ran the game. We haven't beating these guys in nine years. That is funny, Dante. What do you do with yourself now? You had a great career. What are you doing now? I'm going to my fifth year with NBC covering the forty nine ers. I'm in studio color commentator with CBS. So I have eleven college games this year. We're last year. Yeah, Sin San Jose State game, Oregon State UNLV. You know, Joe gets getting my feet with in that game. Lern the cadience. And then most importantly, I'm a partner of the Family Office, and what we do is we give the players the blueprint to generational wealth once they graduate, I mean once they make the money. So a lot of the guys come from backgrounds and parental units where they don't have people to teach them how to make money and compound interests and the rule of seventy two and how to double the principle and to build passive income before you retire. So most importantly, we're trying to change a lot of the guys. They go through financial distress. So they can just flourish and retire when they want to. Good for you. You're crushing it, Dante Whittner, Come on again. I loved having you. I will you know. I'm here with the forty nine is. I'm actually about to hit over the practice right now, so I'll be able to give you detailed information on how Trey Lance is looking. I can tell you right now he's gonna surprise a lot of people with the throws he made yesterday wanting the back of the end zone to Brandon. I you beating the double team to the right side. I was impressed. How about that. That's good news, Dante, great senior. Good seeing you too. I look forward to seeing you. So you guys have a great day, all right. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. Nick Saban, this is kind of daunting for the rest of college football. Nick Saban, it's just funny to read this headline. Nick Saban. Last season was a rebuilding year. They went eleven and one or something. Here's Nick Saban. Last year we had kind of a rebuilding year. So we should have nine starters back on offense, nine on defense, but six guys go out early for the drafts, and now we have five back on offense and seven back on decense. So that in and of itself creates a few more question marks, but it also creates opportunity for other players to be able to shine in the program and contribute in a positive way, you know, to illustrate how far Alabama is ahead of college football. So let's just take the other big boys, Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, just the other people that breathe the same air that Alabama does. None of them compare. Let's take Ohio State since Ryan Day became coach. Their defense was sixty first last year, fifty fourth the year before. They were pushed around by Michigan and Oregon last year. Alabama never gets pushed around, so they're not physically defensively in Alabama's league, they got a whole Oklahoma Similarly, Some of that is they're built. I mean, when's the last great Oklahoma defense. They're built in the Big twelve, the way the style of play is, they're built to score. They don't have the big bodies of Alabama, so they're not close Clemson. Clemson doesn't recruit consistently on Alabama's level. Fairly close, but they don't. They also still lose games to like pitt An, NC State. They are not as consistent at Alabama. Georgia they can't get the quarterback right. They're the only program that consistently recruits to Alabama standard. But they they I mean, Alabama's got like first round quarterbacks. They're gonna have Bryce Young and they've had two, and they have Mac Jones and the Georgia can't get the quarterback right. Only Alabama checks. And LSU is just too chaotic with their coaching staff every three years. That's where they're going cleaning their house. Alabama is the only one to me that really checks like the four or five key boxes. Recruiting A plus, physical defense a plus, quarterback play a to A plus, consistency of coaching and staff mostly coaching A plus, and you can't push them around. Nobody's faster, nobody's tougher. They can play multiple ways. They don't really have weaknesses. Weakness for Alabama is usually somebody gets hurt. Last year against Georgia, they lost both their thousand yard receivers, and that's why they lost. No knock at Georgia, congratulations for the Natty, but that's why they lost. They you know, if you lose your two best offensive players, it kind of when you're playing Georgia or playing Bama or Texas A and and M, it's gonna hurt. But I mean they even amongst the the I mean the upper crust of the sport. Everybody else has like a whole. Georgia can't get in the quarterback right. Ohio State's not nearly as physical defensively. LSU is running through coaches, head coaches all the time. They are a totally different standard.