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Oh here we go on a Tuesday, A rambunctious Tuesday. Lots to talk about Tuesday in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now, the Herd Hierarchy, the league coming into form right now, don't overreact, don't underreact. One hour from now, the Herd Hierarchy. And a tip of the cap to our art department that has made this more comfortable and Christmas than my actual house. We do appreciate the work Jmack last night. You know a lot of these standalone games are clunkers, especially on Thursday, but that last night was You don't see that very often where a team gets outplayed comes roaring back in a backup I mean, backups are winning games, but that was special.

Oh here we go on a Tuesday, A rambunctious Tuesday. Lots to talk about Tuesday in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now, the Herd Hierarchy, the league coming into form right now, don't overreact, don't underreact. One hour from now, the Herd Hierarchy. And a tip of the cap to our art department that has made this more comfortable and Christmas than my actual house. We do appreciate the work Jmack last night. You know a lot of these standalone games are clunkers, especially on Thursday, but that last night was You don't see that very often where a team gets outplayed comes roaring back in a backup I mean, backups are winning games, but that was special.

Yeah. I have an apology card here.

Yeah. I have an apology card here.

I'm going to deliver to Drew Locke later in the show for you know, I was bagging on the guy.

I'm going to deliver to Drew Locke later in the show for you know, I was bagging on the guy.

He was unbelievable. Lest Yeah, what I've finished that game?

He was unbelievable. Lest Yeah, what I've finished that game?

Well, all right, Philadelphia, chill out. First downs, you dominated, rushing yards one hundred and eighty yards, third down efficiency, magnificent, possession, time of possession, you dominated. You control the game, and you lost. It happens Philadelphia is still ten and four. My guess is they finish thirteen and four. Yeah, that's pretty good and win the Divason. Dallas's scheduled down the stretches harder, much harder than Philadelphia's. All these issues were predictable. Your schedule was tougher. Both Jay McK and I said, you'll be good, probably not as good. You lost a remarkable offensive coordinator. You just went on the road, cross country. Your quarterback was sick, had to fly out individually, probably at seventy five percent. You control the game. Hey, true Lock had the greatest play of his life, the greatest drive of his life. Good for him. It was emotional, it was fun. But if you took San Francisco out right. Now take the Niners out. Think about the playoffs. Detroit at Philly, I'll take Philly. Rams at Philly, I'll take Philly. Tampa at Philly, I'll take Philly. Minnesota at Philly, I'll take Philly. Dallas. Schedule's tougher, ends up having to go to Philly. Coin flip. I probably take Philly. Take the Niners out. You're fine. One crucial play changes everything last night, and it's not by Drew Locke. Remember that interception by the Philadelphia or by the Seahawks against Philadelphia. Eight minutes left fourth quarter, there's an interception by Julian Love. Okay, this is interference. I'm from the Northwest. It was interference. He grabbed him. It wasn't called. So they get the interception. That's an interference for positioning. If not, Philadelphia gets the ball to one where they're unstoppable with the toush push and they lead twenty four to thirteen. Game over, it's a great gutty road win. Your quarterback had to fly out late because he was so sick. The problem with the Eagles, they're living on the margins. They remind me a lot of the Kansas City Chiefs Eagles Chiefs in the Super Bowl last year. They're not as good this year. Schedule has been tougher this year. The margins are shrinking, so those games they won now they're losing. But I still think Kansas City's going to play in the AFC Championship, and I feel okay about Philadelphia getting to the NFC Championship. San Francisco's there for sure. But again, go to the playoffs, Detroit at Philly, LA at Philly, Tampa at Philly, Dallas at Philly. I'd still take Philly. So listen, Sometimes great happens. DK Metcalf had an unbelievable catch up the right sideline. Drew Locke had the greatest drive of his professional career. I mean, sometimes great happens. So Dk Metcalf a remarkable player. Great throw by Drew Locke. You also had Jackson Smith and Jigba make an unbelievable catch right there. That's one of the catches of the year. Plus then you had a spectacular interception by Love down the sideline. What body control?

Well, all right, Philadelphia, chill out. First downs, you dominated, rushing yards one hundred and eighty yards, third down efficiency, magnificent, possession, time of possession, you dominated. You control the game, and you lost. It happens Philadelphia is still ten and four. My guess is they finish thirteen and four. Yeah, that's pretty good and win the Divason. Dallas's scheduled down the stretches harder, much harder than Philadelphia's. All these issues were predictable. Your schedule was tougher. Both Jay McK and I said, you'll be good, probably not as good. You lost a remarkable offensive coordinator. You just went on the road, cross country. Your quarterback was sick, had to fly out individually, probably at seventy five percent. You control the game. Hey, true Lock had the greatest play of his life, the greatest drive of his life. Good for him. It was emotional, it was fun. But if you took San Francisco out right. Now take the Niners out. Think about the playoffs. Detroit at Philly, I'll take Philly. Rams at Philly, I'll take Philly. Tampa at Philly, I'll take Philly. Minnesota at Philly, I'll take Philly. Dallas. Schedule's tougher, ends up having to go to Philly. Coin flip. I probably take Philly. Take the Niners out. You're fine. One crucial play changes everything last night, and it's not by Drew Locke. Remember that interception by the Philadelphia or by the Seahawks against Philadelphia. Eight minutes left fourth quarter, there's an interception by Julian Love. Okay, this is interference. I'm from the Northwest. It was interference. He grabbed him. It wasn't called. So they get the interception. That's an interference for positioning. If not, Philadelphia gets the ball to one where they're unstoppable with the toush push and they lead twenty four to thirteen. Game over, it's a great gutty road win. Your quarterback had to fly out late because he was so sick. The problem with the Eagles, they're living on the margins. They remind me a lot of the Kansas City Chiefs Eagles Chiefs in the Super Bowl last year. They're not as good this year. Schedule has been tougher this year. The margins are shrinking, so those games they won now they're losing. But I still think Kansas City's going to play in the AFC Championship, and I feel okay about Philadelphia getting to the NFC Championship. San Francisco's there for sure. But again, go to the playoffs, Detroit at Philly, LA at Philly, Tampa at Philly, Dallas at Philly. I'd still take Philly. So listen, Sometimes great happens. DK Metcalf had an unbelievable catch up the right sideline. Drew Locke had the greatest drive of his professional career. I mean, sometimes great happens. So Dk Metcalf a remarkable player. Great throw by Drew Locke. You also had Jackson Smith and Jigba make an unbelievable catch right there. That's one of the catches of the year. Plus then you had a spectacular interception by Love down the sideline. What body control?

What are you gonna do?

What are you gonna do?

Seattle's got all sorts of talent, as much young town as anybody in football. And they all made great plays. DK Metcalf's a star first round receiver from Ohio State. Star when he's healthy. Julian Love one of the plays of the year by a d It's okay, you controlled the game and lost. Magic happens in Seattle from time to time. With the Seahawks, Nick Sirianni says, we're okay.

Seattle's got all sorts of talent, as much young town as anybody in football. And they all made great plays. DK Metcalf's a star first round receiver from Ohio State. Star when he's healthy. Julian Love one of the plays of the year by a d It's okay, you controlled the game and lost. Magic happens in Seattle from time to time. With the Seahawks, Nick Sirianni says, we're okay.

We still have our goals ahead of us. We know we've clinched playoffs this week, but we're not really looking at that. But we know what we want to do. We want to be able to win this division. But that's the last time you'll hear me say that. We got to go win a game this upcoming week.

We still have our goals ahead of us. We know we've clinched playoffs this week, but we're not really looking at that. But we know what we want to do. We want to be able to win this division. But that's the last time you'll hear me say that. We got to go win a game this upcoming week.

They played the Giants twice. I think they play Arizona. Dallas has to play Miami in Detroit. It's okay. Sometimes in pro sports magic happens. And it all happened in about two minutes, and it was all good for Seattle and all bad for Philadelphia. Those were remarkable catches and remarkable throws, and Drew Lock had the greatest drive of his life. You're ten and four with a chance to go thirteen and four. Ninety nine percent of the league not called the niners would take it today, all right? You ever feel like you got like a grift radar, when you feel like you're being sold something, you know you go. It could be a car lot, it could be a convention, and you feel like, I know you're kind of selling me something. This doesn't feel right in my gut. Is it me or is Robert Salah a coach? I've defended selling Aaron too hard on this comeback thing. He's trying a little too hard to sell it. Here's the latest.

They played the Giants twice. I think they play Arizona. Dallas has to play Miami in Detroit. It's okay. Sometimes in pro sports magic happens. And it all happened in about two minutes, and it was all good for Seattle and all bad for Philadelphia. Those were remarkable catches and remarkable throws, and Drew Lock had the greatest drive of his life. You're ten and four with a chance to go thirteen and four. Ninety nine percent of the league not called the niners would take it today, all right? You ever feel like you got like a grift radar, when you feel like you're being sold something, you know you go. It could be a car lot, it could be a convention, and you feel like, I know you're kind of selling me something. This doesn't feel right in my gut. Is it me or is Robert Salah a coach? I've defended selling Aaron too hard on this comeback thing. He's trying a little too hard to sell it. Here's the latest.

Aaron wants to play.

Aaron wants to play.

Let's let's not confuse that one. He's That's why he's been working so hard to get back, and his willingness to play, even if he's not even one hundred percent is at the forefront of his mind, like he wants to go. But but, like I said, until he's actually cleared, I'm not going to talk about it with anybody.

Let's let's not confuse that one. He's That's why he's been working so hard to get back, and his willingness to play, even if he's not even one hundred percent is at the forefront of his mind, like he wants to go. But but, like I said, until he's actually cleared, I'm not going to talk about it with anybody.

I feel like I'm kind of being sold something. I think it's Aaron's pr Aaron's like, all have your back to Woody Johnson. Your job's on the line. I like Saul, I'd bring him back, but Woody Johnson can be impulsive. It's like Aaron, I'll have your back. You have mine, buddy, buddy system. That's how Aaron works historically, have my back, you're the greatest, including that Hackett. If not, you don't get it. But Aaron does not want to spend the next six months in the offseason having radio stations and newspapers and columnist cloborm So he's selling hope right now, and he's also has Robert Sola selling hope. Aaron wants to prove eventually he's right. Thent Hackett thing all make it right, Alan Lazard, you wait and see Randall Cobb. He'll make a big catch. Giving up draft picks. We're all good here. Aaron's like selling this, Hey, I got injured. Otherwise, my moves and my ideas were really really smart. And a lot of Aaron's vibe over the last six or seven years has been you don't get it. I see what you don't see.

I feel like I'm kind of being sold something. I think it's Aaron's pr Aaron's like, all have your back to Woody Johnson. Your job's on the line. I like Saul, I'd bring him back, but Woody Johnson can be impulsive. It's like Aaron, I'll have your back. You have mine, buddy, buddy system. That's how Aaron works historically, have my back, you're the greatest, including that Hackett. If not, you don't get it. But Aaron does not want to spend the next six months in the offseason having radio stations and newspapers and columnist cloborm So he's selling hope right now, and he's also has Robert Sola selling hope. Aaron wants to prove eventually he's right. Thent Hackett thing all make it right, Alan Lazard, you wait and see Randall Cobb. He'll make a big catch. Giving up draft picks. We're all good here. Aaron's like selling this, Hey, I got injured. Otherwise, my moves and my ideas were really really smart. And a lot of Aaron's vibe over the last six or seven years has been you don't get it. I see what you don't see.

You need to.

You need to.

Broaden your horizons. I'm operating intellectually at a different level of government mandates and football. That's what it feels like to me, You know, a little bit like the musician got a band together. Hey, you just wait until the album comes out. This thing's gonna be epic. Yeah, I don't really buy it. I don't really buy it. I feel like I'm being sold Erin's working so hard, and I always get that video released of Aaron throwing the ball and then feel like you're being sold something. You've had that gut before, that gut feeling salesman here, convention there, car Lot there. You feel like you're being sold something. You're smart enough to feel it. It's magic dust. I don't think the Jets are very good ownership. Offensive line one weapon a priest Hall got hurt again. Never root for it, would hate to see it. But he is sort of the running game, the Dalvin Cook thing, the Lizard thing, the Cob thing, the Nat Hackett thing. I'm not buying it, but I do feel like there's a buddy buddy thing going on here. Sala tells you how hard Aaron's working. Aaron's gonna have SLA's back when he goes upstairs, and Woody Johnson says, Aaron, what should we do with the coach? I love him, he is my guy, but I feel like I'm being sold something here. You're trying too hard to convince me how hard Aeron's working. He's a pro athlete of course, he works hard. I've never questioned whether Aaron works hard or not. I mean, he's a pro athlete, he's in good shape, he's committed. I don't doubt that at all. No, no, no, I'm getting a little cynical on this whole sales pitch. I'm getting Sala's trying to save his job, Aaron's trying to save his pr for six bumpy months of talk radio and column shots in New York. All right, what do we make of Seattle last night? That was fun? That was That was you know, as somebody from the Pacific Northwest, I tried not to root right, We're trying to be kind of like the judge, the fans of the jury.

Broaden your horizons. I'm operating intellectually at a different level of government mandates and football. That's what it feels like to me, You know, a little bit like the musician got a band together. Hey, you just wait until the album comes out. This thing's gonna be epic. Yeah, I don't really buy it. I don't really buy it. I feel like I'm being sold Erin's working so hard, and I always get that video released of Aaron throwing the ball and then feel like you're being sold something. You've had that gut before, that gut feeling salesman here, convention there, car Lot there. You feel like you're being sold something. You're smart enough to feel it. It's magic dust. I don't think the Jets are very good ownership. Offensive line one weapon a priest Hall got hurt again. Never root for it, would hate to see it. But he is sort of the running game, the Dalvin Cook thing, the Lizard thing, the Cob thing, the Nat Hackett thing. I'm not buying it, but I do feel like there's a buddy buddy thing going on here. Sala tells you how hard Aaron's working. Aaron's gonna have SLA's back when he goes upstairs, and Woody Johnson says, Aaron, what should we do with the coach? I love him, he is my guy, but I feel like I'm being sold something here. You're trying too hard to convince me how hard Aeron's working. He's a pro athlete of course, he works hard. I've never questioned whether Aaron works hard or not. I mean, he's a pro athlete, he's in good shape, he's committed. I don't doubt that at all. No, no, no, I'm getting a little cynical on this whole sales pitch. I'm getting Sala's trying to save his job, Aaron's trying to save his pr for six bumpy months of talk radio and column shots in New York. All right, what do we make of Seattle last night? That was fun? That was That was you know, as somebody from the Pacific Northwest, I tried not to root right, We're trying to be kind of like the judge, the fans of the jury.

But that was pretty special for a night, for a night, for a night. Can I give you an Eagles number? I'm shocked at your takeaway?

But that was pretty special for a night, for a night, for a night. Can I give you an Eagles number? I'm shocked at your takeaway?

Is that?

Is that?

No big deal?

No big deal?

They're ten and four, They're gonna be fine. Their point differential this season is plus eighteen.

They're ten and four, They're gonna be fine. Their point differential this season is plus eighteen.

That's it.

That's it.

That's lower than the Minnesota Vikings, who are five hundred. That's lower than the New Orleans Saints Colin they you could argue the Eagles are trending as poorly as any team currently in the playoffs anyone.

That's lower than the Minnesota Vikings, who are five hundred. That's lower than the New Orleans Saints Colin they you could argue the Eagles are trending as poorly as any team currently in the playoffs anyone.

Well, they've played a very tough schedule. Indeed that Buffalo got hot and Dallas got hot, and the Niners are great.

Well, they've played a very tough schedule. Indeed that Buffalo got hot and Dallas got hot, and the Niners are great.

How about all those fluky one score wins? They were seven and one in one score games earlier this season. Are we going to see the regression turn? I would not be shocked if they drop one of these final three games and they're now on the road in the playoffs. Was what Jalen Hurts in the decision making down the stretch second? He was sick, That's why he didn't hit the check down to Kenneth Gainwell instead of just chucking duck with time outs, And I was just.

How about all those fluky one score wins? They were seven and one in one score games earlier this season. Are we going to see the regression turn? I would not be shocked if they drop one of these final three games and they're now on the road in the playoffs. Was what Jalen Hurts in the decision making down the stretch second? He was sick, That's why he didn't hit the check down to Kenneth Gainwell instead of just chucking duck with time outs, And I was just.

Carrol had a regrettable game management situation as well. This stuff, I know, media.

Carrol had a regrettable game management situation as well. This stuff, I know, media.

Media, Philadelphia is a super Bowl team. What on earth is Matt Patricia calling on the final drive? Man coverage on DK Metcalf and Smith the jig mccollin. Eagles have major major I mean James Bradbury, he got beat on four passes.

Media, Philadelphia is a super Bowl team. What on earth is Matt Patricia calling on the final drive? Man coverage on DK Metcalf and Smith the jig mccollin. Eagles have major major I mean James Bradbury, he got beat on four passes.

On the final He did not have a good night.

On the final He did not have a good night.

Where's the safety help? Like, there's some process issues here in Philly.

Where's the safety help? Like, there's some process issues here in Philly.

We will address these yes days, Okay, we will it was a great Monday night.

We will address these yes days, Okay, we will it was a great Monday night.

It was a thrilling game.

It was a thrilling game.

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All Right, Seahawks beat the Eagles last night, twenty seventeen. I've said this before. I really really like Seattle's roster. I like their linebackers. I like their corners, the receivers. I like their tight ends. I like their O line, their D line, their safety. I like everything about Seattle. I think they need to upgrade a quarterback. So Drew Lock. Two things can be true. It was a magical night for Drew Lock the last three minutes. But he's not a hoist the Trophy guy. He's a great story. And Geno Smith's resurgence he was a bust in New York, has been a great story. I'm looking for hoist the trophy guys. Yes, Drew Lock a backup one. There were four game winning drives by backup quarterbacks this week alone. Josh Dobbs did it without a practice, Tommy DeVito, cave Case, Keenum, we saw it last night. Drew Lock, Gardner Minshew may make the playoffs. We got backups winning games. There's never been more talented quarterbacks out there, so we got backups winning games. But just think about this, winning a game is not the goal. So Pete Carroll is a legendary college football coach and has been a damn good NFL coach. But ask Belichick. Belichick is way under five hundred. If you take Tom Brady out of his Cleveland and New England career, go ask Mike Tomlin right now without a star quarterback. So Pete Carroll a great coach. To me, I think you should count college football in the Hall of Fame voting like you know. NBA would, NFL doesn't. But Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll are really Jim Harbaugh great college and pro coaches. But even Pete without Russell Wilson, a star quarterback for about ten years in his prime, Pete's under five hundred in his career, fired twice under five hundred in Seattle, you gotta have the guy. This roster's really good. John Snyder and Pete. This is a really, really dynamic young and most of their great players they're not even paying yet. They're not paying ninety percent of this roster yet, they got two everything corners, running backs, wide receivers, tackles, they got everything. They don't have a trophy game, and so I think it's a young team. They need to make a bold move in the draft and go get a young quarterback. Drew Lock's not the answer. He just was late last night. And that's the difference. The Seattle Times has a headline today, Drew Lock becomes a Seattle legend Monday Night. Yes he does, for an episode of a TV show that through fourteen weeks. That TV show is seven and seven. Not exactly must see TV. It's not appointment TV. But it was a great episode. It was remarkable, a great game, a great broadcast, a great final drive, a great interception. I'm not denying any of the magic. That's a top five Monday Night game that I can remember. And Drew Lock, I'm happy for him. His career hasn't been what we thought it would be, hasn't been what he thought it would be. Geno Smith. Geno Smith's career wasn't what he thought it would be, wasn't what a lot of scouts thought it would be. So Seattle's got two quarterbacks who are writing either season long great stories or final drive. Great stories. Don't confuse that with great quarterback. Here's Drew locking Pete after.

All Right, Seahawks beat the Eagles last night, twenty seventeen. I've said this before. I really really like Seattle's roster. I like their linebackers. I like their corners, the receivers. I like their tight ends. I like their O line, their D line, their safety. I like everything about Seattle. I think they need to upgrade a quarterback. So Drew Lock. Two things can be true. It was a magical night for Drew Lock the last three minutes. But he's not a hoist the Trophy guy. He's a great story. And Geno Smith's resurgence he was a bust in New York, has been a great story. I'm looking for hoist the trophy guys. Yes, Drew Lock a backup one. There were four game winning drives by backup quarterbacks this week alone. Josh Dobbs did it without a practice, Tommy DeVito, cave Case, Keenum, we saw it last night. Drew Lock, Gardner Minshew may make the playoffs. We got backups winning games. There's never been more talented quarterbacks out there, so we got backups winning games. But just think about this, winning a game is not the goal. So Pete Carroll is a legendary college football coach and has been a damn good NFL coach. But ask Belichick. Belichick is way under five hundred. If you take Tom Brady out of his Cleveland and New England career, go ask Mike Tomlin right now without a star quarterback. So Pete Carroll a great coach. To me, I think you should count college football in the Hall of Fame voting like you know. NBA would, NFL doesn't. But Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll are really Jim Harbaugh great college and pro coaches. But even Pete without Russell Wilson, a star quarterback for about ten years in his prime, Pete's under five hundred in his career, fired twice under five hundred in Seattle, you gotta have the guy. This roster's really good. John Snyder and Pete. This is a really, really dynamic young and most of their great players they're not even paying yet. They're not paying ninety percent of this roster yet, they got two everything corners, running backs, wide receivers, tackles, they got everything. They don't have a trophy game, and so I think it's a young team. They need to make a bold move in the draft and go get a young quarterback. Drew Lock's not the answer. He just was late last night. And that's the difference. The Seattle Times has a headline today, Drew Lock becomes a Seattle legend Monday Night. Yes he does, for an episode of a TV show that through fourteen weeks. That TV show is seven and seven. Not exactly must see TV. It's not appointment TV. But it was a great episode. It was remarkable, a great game, a great broadcast, a great final drive, a great interception. I'm not denying any of the magic. That's a top five Monday Night game that I can remember. And Drew Lock, I'm happy for him. His career hasn't been what we thought it would be, hasn't been what he thought it would be. Geno Smith. Geno Smith's career wasn't what he thought it would be, wasn't what a lot of scouts thought it would be. So Seattle's got two quarterbacks who are writing either season long great stories or final drive. Great stories. Don't confuse that with great quarterback. Here's Drew locking Pete after.

Amazing won't do it justice. Amazing won't do a justice.

Amazing won't do it justice. Amazing won't do a justice.

It takes a special group to rally around the guy that.

It takes a special group to rally around the guy that.

Just come into a second game of the year, right.

Just come into a second game of the year, right.

And then you sit there you watch games won or can I do this still?

And then you sit there you watch games won or can I do this still?

I haven't been out there.

I haven't been out there.

On the field.

On the field.

That's the human nature of it.

That's the human nature of it.

You get back out there last week, I'm like, you know.

You get back out there last week, I'm like, you know.

What, I'm the man, so I can.

What, I'm the man, so I can.

Go do this.

Go do this.

What a beautiful night for, you know, for a Monday night football game. And to make it that dramatic in all those incredible football games when nobody will forget that game, the last catches is exquisite. On the sidelines toes ta tap and hang on to the football in the game, win a game, a walk off, interceptional, but just fantastic stuff.

What a beautiful night for, you know, for a Monday night football game. And to make it that dramatic in all those incredible football games when nobody will forget that game, the last catches is exquisite. On the sidelines toes ta tap and hang on to the football in the game, win a game, a walk off, interceptional, but just fantastic stuff.

By the way, fantastic stuff from Seattle's young, fantastic players. This is a stacked roster, it really is. It reminds me a little bit a little bit of that Tampa roster Brady went to remember, they were like five hundred ish, didn't have the quarterback right and you were like, oh, they need is a right tackle. They're ready to go. Old quarterback brings in Gronk ab and you're like, man, they're stacked. Well, they were stacked the year before. I'd argue this Seattle roster is more complete than that Tampa roster. That Tampa roster, they didn't love their tight ends. They were talented. They wanted Gronk, Chris Godwin, good receiver, hurt though. You know, there were pieces there, but really good pieces, and everybody would you know, Tom Brady could choose anywhere he wanted to go. He's like, I like Tampa's roster. We're all like, that's crazy. They draft Tristan Wurse. He brings in Gronk and ab and by week thirteen fourteen, were like, they're completely stacked. That's Seattle. And I'd argue Seattle's roster is younger and more offensively dynamic than I think Sampa's roster. I don't think there's a hole with it. Tamp had a couple holes. I don't see any holes. These are great players making great plays. You could go out and get a veteran quarterback. Take a big swing and a veteran quarterback. I mean if Detroit someday gets impatient with Jared Goff, I'm just telling you, Seattle is really good. Matt Stafford goes to La Bang, Grady goes to Tampa Bang. This is a big time roster with two great stories at quarterback. I don't think they're raised trophy guys.

By the way, fantastic stuff from Seattle's young, fantastic players. This is a stacked roster, it really is. It reminds me a little bit a little bit of that Tampa roster Brady went to remember, they were like five hundred ish, didn't have the quarterback right and you were like, oh, they need is a right tackle. They're ready to go. Old quarterback brings in Gronk ab and you're like, man, they're stacked. Well, they were stacked the year before. I'd argue this Seattle roster is more complete than that Tampa roster. That Tampa roster, they didn't love their tight ends. They were talented. They wanted Gronk, Chris Godwin, good receiver, hurt though. You know, there were pieces there, but really good pieces, and everybody would you know, Tom Brady could choose anywhere he wanted to go. He's like, I like Tampa's roster. We're all like, that's crazy. They draft Tristan Wurse. He brings in Gronk and ab and by week thirteen fourteen, were like, they're completely stacked. That's Seattle. And I'd argue Seattle's roster is younger and more offensively dynamic than I think Sampa's roster. I don't think there's a hole with it. Tamp had a couple holes. I don't see any holes. These are great players making great plays. You could go out and get a veteran quarterback. Take a big swing and a veteran quarterback. I mean if Detroit someday gets impatient with Jared Goff, I'm just telling you, Seattle is really good. Matt Stafford goes to La Bang, Grady goes to Tampa Bang. This is a big time roster with two great stories at quarterback. I don't think they're raised trophy guys.

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So over a Saturday night, Sean Payton lit up Russell Wilson and he was asked about it after the game, and it was one of those kind of big, ugly, turbulent moments star quarterback. We saw Brady sometimes yelled a coach. Sean Payton went after Russ, and Russ didn't say much, and we don't know what they said, and Sean Payton wouldn't say what he said. And yesterday he came out, Sean Payton and said, we got a great relationship. Here's here's the coach.

So over a Saturday night, Sean Payton lit up Russell Wilson and he was asked about it after the game, and it was one of those kind of big, ugly, turbulent moments star quarterback. We saw Brady sometimes yelled a coach. Sean Payton went after Russ, and Russ didn't say much, and we don't know what they said, and Sean Payton wouldn't say what he said. And yesterday he came out, Sean Payton and said, we got a great relationship. Here's here's the coach.

Nothing more to share.

Nothing more to share.

It's certainly you know in game, you know, intensity, heat of the moment, all those things, but nothing more to add.

It's certainly you know in game, you know, intensity, heat of the moment, all those things, but nothing more to add.

Did you feel the needs of hash things out with Russ one on one or address the blow up with the team?

Did you feel the needs of hash things out with Russ one on one or address the blow up with the team?

Not at all.

Not at all.

First off, we haven't had a team meeting and rus and I have a great relationship.

First off, we haven't had a team meeting and rus and I have a great relationship.

No, not at all. Okay, let's just look at big picture. Denver is seven and seven with games against New England and the Chargers at home and at the Raiders should go ten and seven. That's two interim coaches and three backups. They should go ten and seven. They would have signed up for ten and seven. Considering the shipwreck they when Sean Payton walked in the door, the mess they had to solve Russell. The old line was awful, the culture was broken. Next year, they're not going to be terrible in rebuilding in September October. They have a first round pick. The roster should be better. So if you go to September October, they were awful and they may go should go ten and seven. So Sean Payton was asked to fix the offensive line. They were twenty first last year by PFF. Going into the weekend they were fifth. He solved it. He had to solve or get Russell Wilson right. Since passer rating last year was eighty four, this year it's ninety eight. Check check next year. They probably need to add another receiver. They got to get tight end figured out. Maybe their biggest need is get a pass rusher. Everybody in the league needs one of those. But those are tweaks. Privately, would this team have taken ten and seven? I think the minute Sean Payton walked in that door without his GM new owners, Russell's broken o lines of mess. Culture has to be completely rebuilt. Don't get too caught up in controversial comments in the preseason about Nat Hackett. They don't matter, or the wristband comments, they don't matter, or the sideline outburst. It doesn't really matter. This team gets the Chargers Patriots at home, they'll be favored by a touchdown in both and then they go and face the Raiders, three backup quarterbacks, two interim coaches. If you look at the AFC playoff picture today, they are jumbled up. Go look at that group. They're jumbled up with Cincinnati with a backup quarterback and Indianapolis with a backup quarterback, and Houston with a rookie quarterback, and Pittsburgh can't score Buffalo's eight and six. But Denver's arguably got the easiest schedule of all those teams jumbled up, So big picture, it's been bumpy, it's been turbulent. They could land this flight. They still have a chance to get into the playoffs touchdown favored over New England. New England can't score, and they may not score this weekend. Chargers will not win a game with easton Stick Raiders. Yeah, they'll win ten and seven, all right, big picture, they'd have signed up for it.

No, not at all. Okay, let's just look at big picture. Denver is seven and seven with games against New England and the Chargers at home and at the Raiders should go ten and seven. That's two interim coaches and three backups. They should go ten and seven. They would have signed up for ten and seven. Considering the shipwreck they when Sean Payton walked in the door, the mess they had to solve Russell. The old line was awful, the culture was broken. Next year, they're not going to be terrible in rebuilding in September October. They have a first round pick. The roster should be better. So if you go to September October, they were awful and they may go should go ten and seven. So Sean Payton was asked to fix the offensive line. They were twenty first last year by PFF. Going into the weekend they were fifth. He solved it. He had to solve or get Russell Wilson right. Since passer rating last year was eighty four, this year it's ninety eight. Check check next year. They probably need to add another receiver. They got to get tight end figured out. Maybe their biggest need is get a pass rusher. Everybody in the league needs one of those. But those are tweaks. Privately, would this team have taken ten and seven? I think the minute Sean Payton walked in that door without his GM new owners, Russell's broken o lines of mess. Culture has to be completely rebuilt. Don't get too caught up in controversial comments in the preseason about Nat Hackett. They don't matter, or the wristband comments, they don't matter, or the sideline outburst. It doesn't really matter. This team gets the Chargers Patriots at home, they'll be favored by a touchdown in both and then they go and face the Raiders, three backup quarterbacks, two interim coaches. If you look at the AFC playoff picture today, they are jumbled up. Go look at that group. They're jumbled up with Cincinnati with a backup quarterback and Indianapolis with a backup quarterback, and Houston with a rookie quarterback, and Pittsburgh can't score Buffalo's eight and six. But Denver's arguably got the easiest schedule of all those teams jumbled up, So big picture, it's been bumpy, it's been turbulent. They could land this flight. They still have a chance to get into the playoffs touchdown favored over New England. New England can't score, and they may not score this weekend. Chargers will not win a game with easton Stick Raiders. Yeah, they'll win ten and seven, all right, big picture, they'd have signed up for it.

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Yeah, I gotta tell you, it's a good week for numbers. Like I'm saying that because I went four and one this week. It's a good week for numbers. I really really like the numbers this week.

Yeah, I gotta tell you, it's a good week for numbers. Like I'm saying that because I went four and one this week. It's a good week for numbers. I really really like the numbers this week.

I also had a four and one in the contest. I'm in the mix, Colin.

I also had a four and one in the contest. I'm in the mix, Colin.

I know you care a pick them season long that your buddy Wes got me into. I'm fourth out of like one hundred and twelve people, big money on the line.

I know you care a pick them season long that your buddy Wes got me into. I'm fourth out of like one hundred and twelve people, big money on the line.

Your boy needs to pitch you when you come to me on your picks, and I'll give them a shut.

Your boy needs to pitch you when you come to me on your picks, and I'll give them a shut.

You'll let me know, Okay, Okay.

You'll let me know, Okay, Okay.

So Philadelphia loses a game. They controlled first downs, third downs, time of possession, rushing yards, They really control the game. But this is an interesting comment and I don't know exactly what to make of it by a player I love, an excellent young leader. Jalen Hurts.

So Philadelphia loses a game. They controlled first downs, third downs, time of possession, rushing yards, They really control the game. But this is an interesting comment and I don't know exactly what to make of it by a player I love, an excellent young leader. Jalen Hurts.

Listen, and I've been talking about execution all year. Been on the same page. Everyone been on the same page, and meeting an excu I don't think we're we're we're committed enough. What do you mean by that't being committed on commitment? I don't know, not if I had a dictionary on me. Now, excuse me. I don't know how else to say that.

Listen, and I've been talking about execution all year. Been on the same page. Everyone been on the same page, and meeting an excu I don't think we're we're we're committed enough. What do you mean by that't being committed on commitment? I don't know, not if I had a dictionary on me. Now, excuse me. I don't know how else to say that.

Let me just throw this out there. Coaching is a collaborative effort. Belichick's had his best with Josh McDaniels. Nick Seriani starts with a laughably inept opening press conference. He makes fun of it. First year, seven games with this roster, two and five, then he surrenders play calling to a brilliant young coach, Shane Steichen. Finish the year, make the playoffs. Next year, magical get to the Super Bowl. Almost went. That coordinator leaves, so does the defensive coordinator, and the two replacements aren't great. Offense has not had one great game this year for four quarters, and defensively they just replaced the DC with Matt Patricia late in the season. Ooh, the offense is completely uneven. It rarely has great halves. The quarterback now is questioning commitment, whatever that means. So could I suggest that the secret sauce to this organization has always been Shane Steikin bad opening presser two and five. You finally surrender play calling to Steichen. Great year and a half, he leaves ugly since losing streak. It does feel a little bit like dan Quinn in Atlanta, dan Quinn pre and post Kyle Shanahan, losing record with Shanahan for two years, a trip to the Super Bowl and a winning record again. Coaching is hard. Coordinators matter. That dan Quinn Atlanta team was only special when Shanahan was there, had a good roster, and this team without Shane Stiken is uneven. I'm not sure what they are Offensively. They've got the tight ends, they got the old line, they got the quarterback, they have the running back, they have the wide receivers. It's not a personnel issue. The defense has some holes. The offense doesn't best right tackling football, best center in football, two excellent star receivers, good tight ends. Jalen Hurts is an eight quarterback. Why aren't they better? They're not better. They lost their Shanahan. Shane Stikin could win the division with Gardner Minshew. This stuff is hard. Belichick without Josh McDaniels. When he had him, Mac Jones made the playoffs without him circus. I mean, Doug Peterson had Frank Reich in Philly, he left, never the same. I wouldn't be surprised if Doug Peterson and Jacksonville calls Frank Rych says, you got a lot of money coming, come down here and help me. Doug Peterson without Frank Reich in Jacksonville and in Philly not the same coach. So I'm not saying Nick Sirianni doesn't know what he's doing. I'm saying you, I mean, I remember, you know, covering Oregon football years and years ago when they got Chip Kelly, different program. It was just a different program as a coordinator. Then he took over his head coach. Sometimes you have these coordinators that are brilliant, they don't always become great coaches. Frank Reich was not a superstar coach, but boy he made Doug Peterson better. And I'm Kyle Shanahan dan Quinn without him under five hundred. So it just it feels like something is missing. And I think it's very possible that Nick Sirianni when he was hired, it was surprising. It was very bumpy early two and five, and then he finally said, all right, you call the place. It was magic for a year and a half. It's not magic anymore. And you tell me what's what's the Don't tell me the old line's not good. They have one of the top rated left tackles, a great right tackle, a first ballot Hall of Fame center, better than average tight ends, two star receivers, a great leader that's mobile and can throw it deep in Jalen Hurts, and capable running backs. What is it? It's the same guys. Last year they were blowing everybody out. Another schedule's been harder. Dallas is better. You know, there's things here. But I would also argue the Giants are worse than last year, and so's Washington. Washington now is circling the drain. So, Jay Max, you can say what you want. This whole coaching thing is absolutely collaborative. You can go to the Belichicks, the Pete Carroll's, the Andy Reid's, I mean, Eric b Enemy and Andy Reid were really special. The enemy leaves and it's been a work in progress for Kansas City's offense. They're averaging nineteen points a game.

Let me just throw this out there. Coaching is a collaborative effort. Belichick's had his best with Josh McDaniels. Nick Seriani starts with a laughably inept opening press conference. He makes fun of it. First year, seven games with this roster, two and five, then he surrenders play calling to a brilliant young coach, Shane Steichen. Finish the year, make the playoffs. Next year, magical get to the Super Bowl. Almost went. That coordinator leaves, so does the defensive coordinator, and the two replacements aren't great. Offense has not had one great game this year for four quarters, and defensively they just replaced the DC with Matt Patricia late in the season. Ooh, the offense is completely uneven. It rarely has great halves. The quarterback now is questioning commitment, whatever that means. So could I suggest that the secret sauce to this organization has always been Shane Steikin bad opening presser two and five. You finally surrender play calling to Steichen. Great year and a half, he leaves ugly since losing streak. It does feel a little bit like dan Quinn in Atlanta, dan Quinn pre and post Kyle Shanahan, losing record with Shanahan for two years, a trip to the Super Bowl and a winning record again. Coaching is hard. Coordinators matter. That dan Quinn Atlanta team was only special when Shanahan was there, had a good roster, and this team without Shane Stiken is uneven. I'm not sure what they are Offensively. They've got the tight ends, they got the old line, they got the quarterback, they have the running back, they have the wide receivers. It's not a personnel issue. The defense has some holes. The offense doesn't best right tackling football, best center in football, two excellent star receivers, good tight ends. Jalen Hurts is an eight quarterback. Why aren't they better? They're not better. They lost their Shanahan. Shane Stikin could win the division with Gardner Minshew. This stuff is hard. Belichick without Josh McDaniels. When he had him, Mac Jones made the playoffs without him circus. I mean, Doug Peterson had Frank Reich in Philly, he left, never the same. I wouldn't be surprised if Doug Peterson and Jacksonville calls Frank Rych says, you got a lot of money coming, come down here and help me. Doug Peterson without Frank Reich in Jacksonville and in Philly not the same coach. So I'm not saying Nick Sirianni doesn't know what he's doing. I'm saying you, I mean, I remember, you know, covering Oregon football years and years ago when they got Chip Kelly, different program. It was just a different program as a coordinator. Then he took over his head coach. Sometimes you have these coordinators that are brilliant, they don't always become great coaches. Frank Reich was not a superstar coach, but boy he made Doug Peterson better. And I'm Kyle Shanahan dan Quinn without him under five hundred. So it just it feels like something is missing. And I think it's very possible that Nick Sirianni when he was hired, it was surprising. It was very bumpy early two and five, and then he finally said, all right, you call the place. It was magic for a year and a half. It's not magic anymore. And you tell me what's what's the Don't tell me the old line's not good. They have one of the top rated left tackles, a great right tackle, a first ballot Hall of Fame center, better than average tight ends, two star receivers, a great leader that's mobile and can throw it deep in Jalen Hurts, and capable running backs. What is it? It's the same guys. Last year they were blowing everybody out. Another schedule's been harder. Dallas is better. You know, there's things here. But I would also argue the Giants are worse than last year, and so's Washington. Washington now is circling the drain. So, Jay Max, you can say what you want. This whole coaching thing is absolutely collaborative. You can go to the Belichicks, the Pete Carroll's, the Andy Reid's, I mean, Eric b Enemy and Andy Reid were really special. The enemy leaves and it's been a work in progress for Kansas City's offense. They're averaging nineteen points a game.

I was just texting a buddy who would know. So did you notice that.

I was just texting a buddy who would know. So did you notice that.

Siriani is like the big guy. He's not like in charge of the OFFENSI as head.

Siriani is like the big guy. He's not like in charge of the OFFENSI as head.

Coach or in charge of the walkaround guy.

Coach or in charge of the walkaround guy.

Right, nothing wrong with that's the best place to be.

Right, nothing wrong with that's the best place to be.

Walk around guy.

Walk around guy.

You know why something goes wrong with the offense, I'm gonna blame that guy. I'm gonna get someone else. Something goes wrong with the defense, let's change it. Walk around guy doesn't get a lot of blame, does he.

You know why something goes wrong with the offense, I'm gonna blame that guy. I'm gonna get someone else. Something goes wrong with the defense, let's change it. Walk around guy doesn't get a lot of blame, does he.

Well, many of the great coaches have been walking around guys.

Well, many of the great coaches have been walking around guys.

Nick Sirianni is great coach. Did he earned that? I don't know how he got that, but that's pretty awesome.

Nick Sirianni is great coach. Did he earned that? I don't know how he got that, but that's pretty awesome.

He's being absolved of all blame during this three game losing streak.

He's being absolved of all blame during this three game losing streak.

I don't hear any blame for Sirianni.

I don't hear any blame for Sirianni.

Nick pre Stiking calling the plays two and five, Nick post Shane steikin uneven. They were great for about a twenty game you know, twenty five game run with Stiking. Stiking now may win a division with Gardner minshew, I mean he looks like Shanahan to me, where you're like, holy moly, we got we got a star coach here. I remember when he was in San Diego, and Tom Telasco, recently released of his duties and with the Chargers, told me he goes Stichen's a star, like this guy is. This guy is so special.

Nick pre Stiking calling the plays two and five, Nick post Shane steikin uneven. They were great for about a twenty game you know, twenty five game run with Stiking. Stiking now may win a division with Gardner minshew, I mean he looks like Shanahan to me, where you're like, holy moly, we got we got a star coach here. I remember when he was in San Diego, and Tom Telasco, recently released of his duties and with the Chargers, told me he goes Stichen's a star, like this guy is. This guy is so special.

When we talked about Belichick earlier, Hey what's wrong with the players?

When we talked about Belichick earlier, Hey what's wrong with the players?

Well, Belichick, you picked him. You're a defensive guy. Why can't you guys stop a him? But Belichick he gets a lot of the blame obviously.

Well, Belichick, you picked him. You're a defensive guy. Why can't you guys stop a him? But Belichick he gets a lot of the blame obviously.

You know, he gets the accolades when they're going well right now, three game losing streak, where's a lot of the blame going all those flukey loves.

You know, he gets the accolades when they're going well right now, three game losing streak, where's a lot of the blame going all those flukey loves.

Crush, the.

Crush, the.

Crushing, the Jalen hurts, a lot of change in the decrush in the corners.

Crushing, the Jalen hurts, a lot of change in the decrush in the corners.

Nothing for Nick Sirianna here, huh, listen, I'm not hammering the guy.

Nothing for Nick Sirianna here, huh, listen, I'm not hammering the guy.

I'm not saying he's the problem.

I'm not saying he's the problem.

I'm just saying it's interesting how walk around guy gets no blame.

I'm just saying it's interesting how walk around guy gets no blame.

And I like Dan Quinn. I think he's a very good candidate. But Dan's two years when they were really special with the Shanahan years. The first year it was like, ooh, this is good. This team's getting better. Matt's really good, second year, super Bowl, and then he leaves and we just have to be honest here, even great coaches can be very reliant on a start. Mike McCarthy, I think is absolutely benefiting from having the best defensive coordinator in football, Dan quinn All. I'll say this, by the way, Sean McDermott with Brian Babel the offense, it just may have just finally found it's footing a year and a half.

And I like Dan Quinn. I think he's a very good candidate. But Dan's two years when they were really special with the Shanahan years. The first year it was like, ooh, this is good. This team's getting better. Matt's really good, second year, super Bowl, and then he leaves and we just have to be honest here, even great coaches can be very reliant on a start. Mike McCarthy, I think is absolutely benefiting from having the best defensive coordinator in football, Dan quinn All. I'll say this, by the way, Sean McDermott with Brian Babel the offense, it just may have just finally found it's footing a year and a half.

We play the blame game in media, but Colin, hey, why can't the Eagles last night put away a team with a backup quarterback?

We play the blame game in media, but Colin, hey, why can't the Eagles last night put away a team with a backup quarterback?

What like?

What like?

That's a reasonable ass?

That's a reasonable ass?

Put them away, get some distance, run away and hide and walk so it's not an issue in the fourth quarter. Who saw the Niners do it to the Seattle team twice? They just pulverized them. Dallas had some issues getting stops. I just I haven't seen that ability to get separation, run away and hide and it's not a sweat in the fourth quarter. I don't see that from this Seagles team. All games are close, they let inferior teams hang around. That's not a great recipe for success.

Put them away, get some distance, run away and hide and walk so it's not an issue in the fourth quarter. Who saw the Niners do it to the Seattle team twice? They just pulverized them. Dallas had some issues getting stops. I just I haven't seen that ability to get separation, run away and hide and it's not a sweat in the fourth quarter. I don't see that from this Seagles team. All games are close, they let inferior teams hang around. That's not a great recipe for success.

Jalen Hurt says, I questioned commitment.

Jalen Hurt says, I questioned commitment.

Who's he talking about?

Who's he talking about?

I don't know, I do not know.

I don't know, I do not know.

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Here we go, heard hierarchy time.

Here we go, heard hierarchy time.

Now let's go the top ten NFL teams according to College.

Now let's go the top ten NFL teams according to College.

Number ten, the weird Cleveland Browns. They have the most giveaways in the NFL with thirty. They've had four different quarterbacks with a game winning drive. I would not want to play them in the first round. Excellent defense, excellent at home, great pass rusher, third win by when trailing by ten plus points. Weirdest team in the league. Four different quarterbacks game winning drives. I think they're well coached. I like their personnel, and I think they could win a playoff game. I would not want to face them in the first round. Cleveland ten.

Number ten, the weird Cleveland Browns. They have the most giveaways in the NFL with thirty. They've had four different quarterbacks with a game winning drive. I would not want to play them in the first round. Excellent defense, excellent at home, great pass rusher, third win by when trailing by ten plus points. Weirdest team in the league. Four different quarterbacks game winning drives. I think they're well coached. I like their personnel, and I think they could win a playoff game. I would not want to face them in the first round. Cleveland ten.

Number nine.

Number nine.

I've probably got Philadelphia low, but they're on a three game losing streak, and I don't think they have their offense figured out. So they did a better job of running the football last night, and they're seven and three against teams with winning records. I probably have them low, but this offense, Jalen Hurts, saying, I don't know for committed. They're averaging sixteen points in the last three games. They're just they got to figure out the offense. It's not a personnel issue. I probably have them a bit low, but I got to see him pick up a double. You here because they outplayed Seattle and lost. It's one thing to get hammered by San Francisco and Dallas. They gotta win games here, so I've got them low. Still think they can win playoff games. Philly at nine, number eight. They beat the Rams earlier this season, but I don't think they'd beat him next week. Rams are on fire in the last month, Matt Stafford got twelve teen's in a pick Cooper Cup. Shocker unguardable Puka Nakua matchup problems that running back Kyron Williams five straight games over one hundred and ten yards. Sean McVay is having his best here. I think their defense is young, will ultimately cost them in the playoffs if they get there. Rams. Right now, you do not want to play the La Rams. Stafford's on a heater, cups open all the time. Mcvay's on fire. Rams at eight, number seven Miami. Now they're zero to three against teams with winning records. But you know, to be able to go out and drop a thirty nothing without Tyreek Hill shows you the depth of their talent. Raheem Moster twenty total touchdowns, most of the NFL. They could run, they can pass. There's a lot to like about this team. Two A leads the NFL in passing yards. They're a little like the West Coast Niners without the physicality. Again, Miami at seven more than capable of winning a playoff game. Homer away. Number six Detroit Lions. I like their physicality up front with their offensive line. Probably not a team I would trust going on the road in the playoffs, but if they win their division, they got a home game nine and one this year when they can hold teams to twenty eight or fewer. Now, they don't know what's do that because they're not very good in the back end. But you play them in Detroit and if they can hold you to twenty eight or less, they're winning the football game. Four straight games of rushing for over one hundred and forty yards. That Jamier Gibbs, that draft pick, That kid is special. That pick works. Number five Cowboys. They had a bad Sunday, but there's a lot of things to like here. Seven to zero at home, seven blowouts, their kicker has a missedic kick. Do they play well on the road, No, they don't, Little jekylin Hyde. But the truth is Dak Home, Dak Roads, two different quarterbacks. I'm not picking them to win the Super Bowl, but I do think they'll bounce back and beat Miami. That's why I'm five in Miami seven Dallas at five, number four. Kansas City's gonna be fine. They're gonna end up in the AFC Championship. But they do have an issue. They have an unsettled wide receiver room Tony Mahomes doesn't trust Kelsey, always looks banged up. They're tackles not great. Let's be honest. They're seven to zero when they score twenty one or more. The problem is they have struggled to score twenty one and more consistently. I like them. They're fine, but this is not a great team. It's very much Philadelphia. They're a very good team. They're not as good as last year. They're not nearly as dynamic. Number three. I know you're gonna think I'm crazy Buffalo. I think they found their seat Churtsaus. A couple of weeks ago, we saw Tampa catch fire after a buye. This team is now running the football. James Cook has had one hundred plus yards in five straight games. This is what I said yesterday. They remind me of those big Ben Steeler teams when they had a run game. A great defense would create turnovers and wouldn't turn it over. By the way, Josh Allen didn't turn it over, ran the football, didn't have to throw, and decimated Dallas schedule. He's got three wins on it to close the season. They are peaking late, but I love the dimension James Cook has added to the offense. This is Buffalo at their best. Josh Allen can be complementary on drives time to time. Number two Baltimore. I've liked them all year. Number one seed, only team to hold a lead in every game in the fourth quarter. Won eight of their last nine games, and they could have won that one. Number one scoring defense, Lamar Jackson. Nobody will give him credit, but he remains better in the pocket that anybody wants to admit. I think losing Mitchell the running back hurts. He was a dynamic spark plug to this offense. They've already missed a tight end. They're left tackles never healthy. It's classic Baltimore. They're like the Niners. I like them every year. Can they stay healthy? Right now? They're not number one? The Niners are eighteen to zero and brought perty McCaffrey and Debo including the playoffs. Are healthy? What do you want me to say? They're averaging almost seven yards of play six point eight yards of play. It's the third highest by any team in the Super Bowl era. It is a completely stacked roster with no weaknesses. It's almost impossible to create a roster this deep and this good in twenty twenty three. They've done it because they're not paying their quarterback. They even missed on a first round quarterback. This team is stacked.

I've probably got Philadelphia low, but they're on a three game losing streak, and I don't think they have their offense figured out. So they did a better job of running the football last night, and they're seven and three against teams with winning records. I probably have them low, but this offense, Jalen Hurts, saying, I don't know for committed. They're averaging sixteen points in the last three games. They're just they got to figure out the offense. It's not a personnel issue. I probably have them a bit low, but I got to see him pick up a double. You here because they outplayed Seattle and lost. It's one thing to get hammered by San Francisco and Dallas. They gotta win games here, so I've got them low. Still think they can win playoff games. Philly at nine, number eight. They beat the Rams earlier this season, but I don't think they'd beat him next week. Rams are on fire in the last month, Matt Stafford got twelve teen's in a pick Cooper Cup. Shocker unguardable Puka Nakua matchup problems that running back Kyron Williams five straight games over one hundred and ten yards. Sean McVay is having his best here. I think their defense is young, will ultimately cost them in the playoffs if they get there. Rams. Right now, you do not want to play the La Rams. Stafford's on a heater, cups open all the time. Mcvay's on fire. Rams at eight, number seven Miami. Now they're zero to three against teams with winning records. But you know, to be able to go out and drop a thirty nothing without Tyreek Hill shows you the depth of their talent. Raheem Moster twenty total touchdowns, most of the NFL. They could run, they can pass. There's a lot to like about this team. Two A leads the NFL in passing yards. They're a little like the West Coast Niners without the physicality. Again, Miami at seven more than capable of winning a playoff game. Homer away. Number six Detroit Lions. I like their physicality up front with their offensive line. Probably not a team I would trust going on the road in the playoffs, but if they win their division, they got a home game nine and one this year when they can hold teams to twenty eight or fewer. Now, they don't know what's do that because they're not very good in the back end. But you play them in Detroit and if they can hold you to twenty eight or less, they're winning the football game. Four straight games of rushing for over one hundred and forty yards. That Jamier Gibbs, that draft pick, That kid is special. That pick works. Number five Cowboys. They had a bad Sunday, but there's a lot of things to like here. Seven to zero at home, seven blowouts, their kicker has a missedic kick. Do they play well on the road, No, they don't, Little jekylin Hyde. But the truth is Dak Home, Dak Roads, two different quarterbacks. I'm not picking them to win the Super Bowl, but I do think they'll bounce back and beat Miami. That's why I'm five in Miami seven Dallas at five, number four. Kansas City's gonna be fine. They're gonna end up in the AFC Championship. But they do have an issue. They have an unsettled wide receiver room Tony Mahomes doesn't trust Kelsey, always looks banged up. They're tackles not great. Let's be honest. They're seven to zero when they score twenty one or more. The problem is they have struggled to score twenty one and more consistently. I like them. They're fine, but this is not a great team. It's very much Philadelphia. They're a very good team. They're not as good as last year. They're not nearly as dynamic. Number three. I know you're gonna think I'm crazy Buffalo. I think they found their seat Churtsaus. A couple of weeks ago, we saw Tampa catch fire after a buye. This team is now running the football. James Cook has had one hundred plus yards in five straight games. This is what I said yesterday. They remind me of those big Ben Steeler teams when they had a run game. A great defense would create turnovers and wouldn't turn it over. By the way, Josh Allen didn't turn it over, ran the football, didn't have to throw, and decimated Dallas schedule. He's got three wins on it to close the season. They are peaking late, but I love the dimension James Cook has added to the offense. This is Buffalo at their best. Josh Allen can be complementary on drives time to time. Number two Baltimore. I've liked them all year. Number one seed, only team to hold a lead in every game in the fourth quarter. Won eight of their last nine games, and they could have won that one. Number one scoring defense, Lamar Jackson. Nobody will give him credit, but he remains better in the pocket that anybody wants to admit. I think losing Mitchell the running back hurts. He was a dynamic spark plug to this offense. They've already missed a tight end. They're left tackles never healthy. It's classic Baltimore. They're like the Niners. I like them every year. Can they stay healthy? Right now? They're not number one? The Niners are eighteen to zero and brought perty McCaffrey and Debo including the playoffs. Are healthy? What do you want me to say? They're averaging almost seven yards of play six point eight yards of play. It's the third highest by any team in the Super Bowl era. It is a completely stacked roster with no weaknesses. It's almost impossible to create a roster this deep and this good in twenty twenty three. They've done it because they're not paying their quarterback. They even missed on a first round quarterback. This team is stacked.

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Pro Bowler, seventh round pick out of Oregon State ended up being not only a Fox Sports analyst, heck of a player trained young athletes. Kids are great athletes. TJ. Hushman's ad to catch up on game with LeVar Arrington Plexico Burras Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio. All right, so we've had. We've had a lot of discussions here. Let's just start with the Aaron thing and get it out of here. So Aaron announces, yeah, it's not realistic. I'm not going to be ready to play, which is what we all said. And we're kind of, uh, you know, looked down upon for trusting, like you know, the history of like science that he would not be ready, and now Aaron admitting, yeah, I'm not going to be ready. We're not crazy town. Sometimes science is right. You never thought, I mean, you've been dealing with athletes your whole life. It was unrealistic, right.

Pro Bowler, seventh round pick out of Oregon State ended up being not only a Fox Sports analyst, heck of a player trained young athletes. Kids are great athletes. TJ. Hushman's ad to catch up on game with LeVar Arrington Plexico Burras Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio. All right, so we've had. We've had a lot of discussions here. Let's just start with the Aaron thing and get it out of here. So Aaron announces, yeah, it's not realistic. I'm not going to be ready to play, which is what we all said. And we're kind of, uh, you know, looked down upon for trusting, like you know, the history of like science that he would not be ready, and now Aaron admitting, yeah, I'm not going to be ready. We're not crazy town. Sometimes science is right. You never thought, I mean, you've been dealing with athletes your whole life. It was unrealistic, right.

I thought it was like, you're gonna come back the same season.

I thought it was like, you're gonna come back the same season.

Like, honestly, you know what he should have done, Oh we're out the playoff picture, so I'm not gonna risk it. Yeah, that's what he probably should have said. No body he thought realistically that he could play. And then you see him throwing the ball, you see him walking around, You're like, wait, maybe he can Is this some new cutting ash technology. It would to me just be best to say, uh, you know, we can't make the playoffs, so I'm gonna just wait till next year.

Like, honestly, you know what he should have done, Oh we're out the playoff picture, so I'm not gonna risk it. Yeah, that's what he probably should have said. No body he thought realistically that he could play. And then you see him throwing the ball, you see him walking around, You're like, wait, maybe he can Is this some new cutting ash technology. It would to me just be best to say, uh, you know, we can't make the playoffs, so I'm gonna just wait till next year.

That's what would have been, like, what that would have been like obvious, like I always feel like something. In the last three years, Aaron's always selling me something, and I'm like, Aaron, you're not gonna be ready for the record, I came on the eron said Aaron, don't play. This offensive line can't protect anybody. Don't play again.

That's what would have been, like, what that would have been like obvious, like I always feel like something. In the last three years, Aaron's always selling me something, and I'm like, Aaron, you're not gonna be ready for the record, I came on the eron said Aaron, don't play. This offensive line can't protect anybody. Don't play again.

He he really wants to be in a spotlight. He and as good as he is when oh, I'll be back this year. And then he goes back to New York and you see him walking and throwing the ball. We haven't seen it. I never torn my achilles, but I played with guys. You're not even supposed to put weight on that leg for months, and he had done it so soon. And so for Aaron, I'm sure he misses a He wants to be around the game, and this is the next best thing is to I'm going to play in the game. Oh not realistically, I can't play. But for aer Rah, I just hope next year he has a great season, because if he doesn't, a lot of Jets fans, including our guy here, J Mack, will be very disappointed.

He he really wants to be in a spotlight. He and as good as he is when oh, I'll be back this year. And then he goes back to New York and you see him walking and throwing the ball. We haven't seen it. I never torn my achilles, but I played with guys. You're not even supposed to put weight on that leg for months, and he had done it so soon. And so for Aaron, I'm sure he misses a He wants to be around the game, and this is the next best thing is to I'm going to play in the game. Oh not realistically, I can't play. But for aer Rah, I just hope next year he has a great season, because if he doesn't, a lot of Jets fans, including our guy here, J Mack, will be very disappointed.

Okay, so I said this earlier. I love Seattle's talent. I like the receivers, their corners, their d line, their tackles, their running backs, their safety. I love their talent. I don't think they have a raised the trophy guy at quarterback. I think Gino has been a great story. I think Drew lock had a great night. I can love both. I think they have to do. And I'll tell you something. They're not gonna get to the number one pick. They're not gonna get to the number two or three pick. I'm gonna throw a name out there, and I'm gonna lean on your expertise because you know all these kids. Jaden Daniels at LSU may drop to eight, nine or ten Seattle if they don't make the playoffs. Don't think they will. Is gonna draft about seventeen eighteen. I think they have an of talent. They could move off one of their running backs. They can move off somebody and get up there. Give you picks and a player. I think this kid, I think we're sleeping on him. I think I thought he was very good at Arizona State once you gave him elite talent. I thought he was a rock star at LSU. Brian Kelly, by the way, is not the easiest coach. I like Brian but he ran through quarterbacks at Notre Dame like he Brian is a rough guy, right, He's intense. What do you hear about him? What do you know about him? I think he could end up being the And I say this knowing I like Caleb Williams. Daniels is so consistently productive. What do you hear?

Okay, so I said this earlier. I love Seattle's talent. I like the receivers, their corners, their d line, their tackles, their running backs, their safety. I love their talent. I don't think they have a raised the trophy guy at quarterback. I think Gino has been a great story. I think Drew lock had a great night. I can love both. I think they have to do. And I'll tell you something. They're not gonna get to the number one pick. They're not gonna get to the number two or three pick. I'm gonna throw a name out there, and I'm gonna lean on your expertise because you know all these kids. Jaden Daniels at LSU may drop to eight, nine or ten Seattle if they don't make the playoffs. Don't think they will. Is gonna draft about seventeen eighteen. I think they have an of talent. They could move off one of their running backs. They can move off somebody and get up there. Give you picks and a player. I think this kid, I think we're sleeping on him. I think I thought he was very good at Arizona State once you gave him elite talent. I thought he was a rock star at LSU. Brian Kelly, by the way, is not the easiest coach. I like Brian but he ran through quarterbacks at Notre Dame like he Brian is a rough guy, right, He's intense. What do you hear about him? What do you know about him? I think he could end up being the And I say this knowing I like Caleb Williams. Daniels is so consistently productive. What do you hear?

I like Jaye Daniels a lot. And I'll tell you why. I don't know him, but I'm very familiar with him. If that means I saw him improve so much. He trains out went to lu Yes, but he trains out here. And last summer, not twenty three summer, the twenty two summer, really thin, inaccurate throwing the ball. He came back this past summer sticker, he put on weight, extremely accurate. It was like he was out here training so much. I was like, do you have school? He was so dedicated to bettering himself as a player. Yes, like Colin summer twenty two, I'm gonna say Jade Daniels was probably one hundred and eighty pounds. He's probably two ten right now. Wow, like he and it was all in his lower body. He's still thin up to me, he's improved so much. And his quarterback coach, Taylor Kelly told me before the college football season started, Betty, Jade and Daniels would win the Heisman. He told me this before the college football season started. And the improvement, it's what you said with Brian Kelly. I follow college football man. He was changing them quarterbacks and I like he's rough on course, and so for him to stick with jayde Daniel shows you he really believed in them. And to your Seattle point, you gotta get Pete Carroll. Credit man. Pete Carroll's a hell of a coach. Pete Carroll can coach. And so if you give him Jade and Daniels with his ability to run the ball, his accuracy, strong arm, you have DK that can really stretch the field vertically, that's a perfect match.