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Here we go on a Monday, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Jmack interesting Sunday and Sunday Night, Big Monday Night. We don't know what's going on with Joe Burrow. Rams continue to be a surprise story, but as we are prone to do at least once every few Mondays. Dallas is a tough one.

Here we go on a Monday, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Jmack interesting Sunday and Sunday Night, Big Monday Night. We don't know what's going on with Joe Burrow. Rams continue to be a surprise story, but as we are prone to do at least once every few Mondays. Dallas is a tough one.

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Yes, I thought you would reference to by Green, not for my jets, but for all the money we gave, the audience and so many great winning picks.

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We did have a good We have to be humble though I came off a two week skid. But I will say this, Trayvon Diggs, the great corner for the Cowboys out for the season. Defense wasn't as aggressive. Dak Prescott had to play on the road and trailed. He was just ordinary mostly, And Mike McCarthy's coaching is always up for debate. One week after we said they're amazing, people thought they were amazing. The world fell in love with the Cowboys. Here we are. I think so many people, fans and media want Dallas to be great, but it's pretty clear in this league. To be great in this league you need three things. You know what they are, A great quarterback, a great coach, and a great edge rusher or pass rusher. Cowboys have one of those. I have a great edge rusher. I mean if San Francisco, who has the coach and edge rusher, had a great quarterback, you could put him in the Super Bowl right now. One of the reasons we didn't overreact to Kansas City losing at home to Detroit. Great coach, great quarterback, Chris Jones would come back. Those are the elements you need, and right now Dallas is okay at head coach and they're fine. Sometimes they're fine. B plus at quarterback. But there's a big gap between great and okay and fine, And I think but Dak is he's smart, his intangibles are great. He's a leader, he's charming, he's charismatic, he's likable. But I think, you know, last night is yesterday afternoon is kind of symbolizes what Dak is. Dak last year fifteenth in passer rating. Smack dab in the middle of the league. This year he's sixteenth in passer rating. Smack dab in the middle of the league. Do you know what Dak's career passer rating is? Seven tenth smack dab in the middle of the league and now no more. Zeke in his prime, very dependent downfield on Ceedee Lamb tight end. They're okay, not special. O line was missing three starters, so what happens. They're real clunky in the red zone. Again, there's a big gap between fine, okay, pretty good and great. You saw Buffalo yesterday. It's pretty clear Buffalo is becoming great again. Kansas City's great again. You know, Baltimore now all banged up, great elements, they got to get healthy. But you can see it every week. Mike McCarthy went into this season saying I want to run the football more. That's not what Andy Reid says, That's not what Sean McDermott says. Because they have great now again, Arizona is better than we thought. They are not the worst team in the league. Joshua Dobbs pretty fun quarterback. May not build around him, certainly capable, good kid, players love him, plays hard, They're sneaky good at home. The good thing about Dallas, though, they got ten wins written all over him with his defense, but that defense won't be as aggressive now is that at least Dak Prescott is always accountable. And that's why we like him so much. And this is the reality of Dallas when they get banged up going on the road against a sneaky good, surprisingly good Arizona team, at least at home. But we want him to be good. We want him to be great. It doesn't mean they are so yesterday, Denver I must have overvalued Denver significantly. There's a bunch of things with Denver. I have a rule, I haven't used it in a while. Say it out loud. If something doesn't sound right, it's probably not right. So say out loud. New very wealthy ownership, new outspoken head coach, gotta fix the culture, GM stays from a previous regime, and an aging star quarterback that was never beloved in the locker room. Apparently in Seattle. It doesn't sound like a quick fix. Denver bought this house Sean maybe thought it needed some touch ups, and now he's got a mold issue and a leaky basement and he doesn't know how to fix it. And that Russell Wilson contract is hanging over the franchise like a roof that needs fixing in the year, and you may not have the funds for it. This is not a quick fix. And Denver quit yesterday. Now Miami is fantastic. They are fantastic. Best team in the league. Said it last week, I'll tell you now, I'll say it tomorrow. And her hierarchy, it's the best team in the league. The coaching sensational, the speed to is upright. They're not great everywhere. Oh line's okay, Mimiy's a great football team right now. They are terrific. But did I overvalue the roster, Yeah? Did I overvalue the quarterback?

We did have a good We have to be humble though I came off a two week skid. But I will say this, Trayvon Diggs, the great corner for the Cowboys out for the season. Defense wasn't as aggressive. Dak Prescott had to play on the road and trailed. He was just ordinary mostly, And Mike McCarthy's coaching is always up for debate. One week after we said they're amazing, people thought they were amazing. The world fell in love with the Cowboys. Here we are. I think so many people, fans and media want Dallas to be great, but it's pretty clear in this league. To be great in this league you need three things. You know what they are, A great quarterback, a great coach, and a great edge rusher or pass rusher. Cowboys have one of those. I have a great edge rusher. I mean if San Francisco, who has the coach and edge rusher, had a great quarterback, you could put him in the Super Bowl right now. One of the reasons we didn't overreact to Kansas City losing at home to Detroit. Great coach, great quarterback, Chris Jones would come back. Those are the elements you need, and right now Dallas is okay at head coach and they're fine. Sometimes they're fine. B plus at quarterback. But there's a big gap between great and okay and fine, And I think but Dak is he's smart, his intangibles are great. He's a leader, he's charming, he's charismatic, he's likable. But I think, you know, last night is yesterday afternoon is kind of symbolizes what Dak is. Dak last year fifteenth in passer rating. Smack dab in the middle of the league. This year he's sixteenth in passer rating. Smack dab in the middle of the league. Do you know what Dak's career passer rating is? Seven tenth smack dab in the middle of the league and now no more. Zeke in his prime, very dependent downfield on Ceedee Lamb tight end. They're okay, not special. O line was missing three starters, so what happens. They're real clunky in the red zone. Again, there's a big gap between fine, okay, pretty good and great. You saw Buffalo yesterday. It's pretty clear Buffalo is becoming great again. Kansas City's great again. You know, Baltimore now all banged up, great elements, they got to get healthy. But you can see it every week. Mike McCarthy went into this season saying I want to run the football more. That's not what Andy Reid says, That's not what Sean McDermott says. Because they have great now again, Arizona is better than we thought. They are not the worst team in the league. Joshua Dobbs pretty fun quarterback. May not build around him, certainly capable, good kid, players love him, plays hard, They're sneaky good at home. The good thing about Dallas, though, they got ten wins written all over him with his defense, but that defense won't be as aggressive now is that at least Dak Prescott is always accountable. And that's why we like him so much. And this is the reality of Dallas when they get banged up going on the road against a sneaky good, surprisingly good Arizona team, at least at home. But we want him to be good. We want him to be great. It doesn't mean they are so yesterday, Denver I must have overvalued Denver significantly. There's a bunch of things with Denver. I have a rule, I haven't used it in a while. Say it out loud. If something doesn't sound right, it's probably not right. So say out loud. New very wealthy ownership, new outspoken head coach, gotta fix the culture, GM stays from a previous regime, and an aging star quarterback that was never beloved in the locker room. Apparently in Seattle. It doesn't sound like a quick fix. Denver bought this house Sean maybe thought it needed some touch ups, and now he's got a mold issue and a leaky basement and he doesn't know how to fix it. And that Russell Wilson contract is hanging over the franchise like a roof that needs fixing in the year, and you may not have the funds for it. This is not a quick fix. And Denver quit yesterday. Now Miami is fantastic. They are fantastic. Best team in the league. Said it last week, I'll tell you now, I'll say it tomorrow. And her hierarchy, it's the best team in the league. The coaching sensational, the speed to is upright. They're not great everywhere. Oh line's okay, Mimiy's a great football team right now. They are terrific. But did I overvalue the roster, Yeah? Did I overvalue the quarterback?

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I revalue the coach. I don't think so. But since Peyton Manning retired this team. This franchise has the fifth worst record. So Fox had Sean Payton. He loved LA he loved Fox Sports. I thought he was going to sign for three or four years and wait for the Chargers job to open, which it probably should be opened soon. But head coaches, especially smart ones with the Super Bowl, get restless, big money talks. The owners for the Broncos are rolling and let us, and so it happened. But I will say this, Sean Payton's side of the ball has gotten better. They're averaging six points more a game, a touchdowns a lot in the NFL. Russell Wilson's passer rating is up fifteen points. He's not the only issue, though I don't see a lot of juice in the second half with him. The defense has regressed badly. The Nuggets are going to continue to be a great NBA team. This is obviously not a quick fix. Let's be honest, Nick Sirianni. It was year two, Mike McDaniel, year two, Look how good they are? Bellichick year two, Pete Carroll seven and nine, seven and nine, eleven and five, year three. People forget this. You think Kyle Shanahan walked into San Francisco. Yeah he did. He went six and ten and four and twelve. It was year three with Kyle Shanahan, a very sophisticated offense, structure and culture. It was year three that the guy that we perceive now is the best offensive coach in a short list, if not the best, took three years in San Francisco, a historically well run franchise that had some good players. Sean McDermott, year three, Buffalo ten and six, had their quarterback on their way. Some of this stuff sounds easy, but Pete Carroll, Bellichick, Pete Carroll, you know Sean McDermott viewed as a good coach, Kyle Shanahan. It's not an easy fix. This house has a lot more issues than we thought. I think I overvalued the roster. I've liked this roster for years. Maybe it's just not as good as I think. Maybe it's not. Sean Payton after was embarrassed just about I mean, seventy points to surrender seventy points. I went to a high school that didn't have a great program. I don't think anybody scored seventy on us, So it is ugly. But I think I will say this j Mac and we do this from time to time. I'm guilty of it, even with great coaches. You know, McVeigh is very unique. He saved a franchise, got good immediately, Sirianni McDermott, Kyle Shanahan, Pete Carroll. You know, it's different. Mike Tomlin took over a great franchise, They had a great culture. Bill Coward to Tomlin, that's different. This thing needed a lot of fixing. I think I overvalued a lot of what was there. I look at Cortland Sutton, I look at the left tackle. I look at Jerry Judy, I look at Russell Wilson, Patrick Sartan. They have a hand, you know what they are. They're a little bit of a puzzle and the pieces don't quite fit, and the defense has regressed strangely overnight.

I revalue the coach. I don't think so. But since Peyton Manning retired this team. This franchise has the fifth worst record. So Fox had Sean Payton. He loved LA he loved Fox Sports. I thought he was going to sign for three or four years and wait for the Chargers job to open, which it probably should be opened soon. But head coaches, especially smart ones with the Super Bowl, get restless, big money talks. The owners for the Broncos are rolling and let us, and so it happened. But I will say this, Sean Payton's side of the ball has gotten better. They're averaging six points more a game, a touchdowns a lot in the NFL. Russell Wilson's passer rating is up fifteen points. He's not the only issue, though I don't see a lot of juice in the second half with him. The defense has regressed badly. The Nuggets are going to continue to be a great NBA team. This is obviously not a quick fix. Let's be honest, Nick Sirianni. It was year two, Mike McDaniel, year two, Look how good they are? Bellichick year two, Pete Carroll seven and nine, seven and nine, eleven and five, year three. People forget this. You think Kyle Shanahan walked into San Francisco. Yeah he did. He went six and ten and four and twelve. It was year three with Kyle Shanahan, a very sophisticated offense, structure and culture. It was year three that the guy that we perceive now is the best offensive coach in a short list, if not the best, took three years in San Francisco, a historically well run franchise that had some good players. Sean McDermott, year three, Buffalo ten and six, had their quarterback on their way. Some of this stuff sounds easy, but Pete Carroll, Bellichick, Pete Carroll, you know Sean McDermott viewed as a good coach, Kyle Shanahan. It's not an easy fix. This house has a lot more issues than we thought. I think I overvalued the roster. I've liked this roster for years. Maybe it's just not as good as I think. Maybe it's not. Sean Payton after was embarrassed just about I mean, seventy points to surrender seventy points. I went to a high school that didn't have a great program. I don't think anybody scored seventy on us, So it is ugly. But I think I will say this j Mac and we do this from time to time. I'm guilty of it, even with great coaches. You know, McVeigh is very unique. He saved a franchise, got good immediately, Sirianni McDermott, Kyle Shanahan, Pete Carroll. You know, it's different. Mike Tomlin took over a great franchise, They had a great culture. Bill Coward to Tomlin, that's different. This thing needed a lot of fixing. I think I overvalued a lot of what was there. I look at Cortland Sutton, I look at the left tackle. I look at Jerry Judy, I look at Russell Wilson, Patrick Sartan. They have a hand, you know what they are. They're a little bit of a puzzle and the pieces don't quite fit, and the defense has regressed strangely overnight.

You seem to be making this a lot about Denver. I don't know, Colin. This to me is the Miami Dolphins are just a juggernaut offensively. I mean, you know, the Broncos have sixty nine points this season, Okay, Miami scored seventy yesterday. Like, I don't think Denver's at bad. And by the way, they're already taking money for Week four against the Chicago Bears on the road. So like, I don't know that Denver's in that bat of shape. It just looks you give up seven hundred yards and seventy points, it looks really bad.

You seem to be making this a lot about Denver. I don't know, Colin. This to me is the Miami Dolphins are just a juggernaut offensively. I mean, you know, the Broncos have sixty nine points this season, Okay, Miami scored seventy yesterday. Like, I don't think Denver's at bad. And by the way, they're already taking money for Week four against the Chicago Bears on the road. So like, I don't know that Denver's in that bat of shape. It just looks you give up seven hundred yards and seventy points, it looks really bad.

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Well, we say it often on this show. Half of the first round quarterbacks, this is the first round quarterbacks. These are the good ones. These are the one all the scouts admire. Get all worked up over half don't work, and about five percent are able to over And that's a key word. Chicago makes it tough on young quarterbacks. It's a defensive coach, a defensive culture. I don't know the last time they had a great old line. Now, Josh Allen is gifted enough in Buffalo that he's overcome O line and running back issues. Justin field, isn't Josh Allen? Joe Burrow? How about Kenny Pickett? Great defense, great organization. Okay, the Bears are neither. So Kenny Pickett can win with real limitations. Josh Allen can win when they don't surround him with perfect offensive weapons. But that's not justin field scenario. The Bears have not been well run. The Bears have not been well run in a long long time. Who am I supposed to trust? Go back to two thousand. The Bears have made the playoffs back to back seasons one time. Chaos is always right behind him in the rearview mirror. I don't know if Jordan Love is very good in Green Bay, but I know they don't have chaos. They don't overspend on free agents. They draft and develop, and they do a really good job with quarterbacks dating back to Bart Starr and Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers. They stay at a chaos in Green Bay. They set you up to succeed. I don't think Jordan Love is great. I don't, But Justin Fields has been set up to fail. In college. He played at Ohio State, five star players everywhere relied on his athleticism. Often in Chicago, he doesn't have players around him. We don't know about the coaching. I suspect it's just not good enough and he's not developed into a very good pocket thrower. So he was set up to fail. And remember ninety percent of these first round quarterbacks forget their second third round guys. Ninety percent of the first round guys are not good enough to overcome. I mean Yester. This weekend, Trevor Lawrence had three beautifully thrown balls drop. He got routed at home by the Texans. Very few Andrew Lucks out there, very few John Elways. They don't exist. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Those are generational talents in Chicago. They force you to overcome. I would argue today that if you go to the last twenty years, Chicago's one of the bottom five places in the league for a young quarterback. Really cold, windy, northern weather doesn't help. Need a real strong arm there. It's a defensive culture. They're still celebrating the eighty five Bears. It's old school ownership, and the Green Bay Packers usually have a Hall of famerite quarterback. It's not a coincidence that Kansas City has had great coaches multiple times, the Hunt family, Dick Vermeial Herm Edwards, Andy Reid, Marty Schottenheimer, Hank Stram. They've also had Lenn Dawson, Patrick Mahomes, Alex Smith, Trent Green got to the playoffs, Joe Montana. It's not a coincidence. Certain organizations have better ownership, more stability. They're ahead and progressive. They're not old school in behind Chicago's old school ownership still Worship's defense, Kansas City's ahead of the curve on offense, have been for years, and so there just are organizations in this league. Washington's been another one that make it really hard on young quarterbacks, forcing them to overcome and overcome. I mean, Trevor Lawrence has seen as success. His first coach didn't work, had to overcome this year, protection drop passes, had to overcome. They're scrapping and struggling. My guess is they'll turn it around. But I feel like the Bears are analog in a digital world and they just make it hard and justin Fields, though talented, isn't generationally gifted like a Josh Allen to overcome all the hurdles they put in front of you. I don't know if if Jordan loves any good there's not a lot of hurdles. Aaron Jones is great, good old line. They're not even healthy now and you can win great home field advantage, excellent front office, Green Bay drafts, and develops. They don't rush you, they draft you, you sit for multiple years. I mean the pressure is like this year within the organization, they kept saying, don't rush him. It's gonna be slow and steady. They say the right things, they draft, they do the right thing. Chicago makes it really, really hard. And I just think justin fields is the league average, which is ninety percent of these guys are just not gifted enough to overcome stuff. Cincinnati for years has made it hard. Carson Palmer at one point said I'm out, I'm over it right.

Well, we say it often on this show. Half of the first round quarterbacks, this is the first round quarterbacks. These are the good ones. These are the one all the scouts admire. Get all worked up over half don't work, and about five percent are able to over And that's a key word. Chicago makes it tough on young quarterbacks. It's a defensive coach, a defensive culture. I don't know the last time they had a great old line. Now, Josh Allen is gifted enough in Buffalo that he's overcome O line and running back issues. Justin field, isn't Josh Allen? Joe Burrow? How about Kenny Pickett? Great defense, great organization. Okay, the Bears are neither. So Kenny Pickett can win with real limitations. Josh Allen can win when they don't surround him with perfect offensive weapons. But that's not justin field scenario. The Bears have not been well run. The Bears have not been well run in a long long time. Who am I supposed to trust? Go back to two thousand. The Bears have made the playoffs back to back seasons one time. Chaos is always right behind him in the rearview mirror. I don't know if Jordan Love is very good in Green Bay, but I know they don't have chaos. They don't overspend on free agents. They draft and develop, and they do a really good job with quarterbacks dating back to Bart Starr and Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers. They stay at a chaos in Green Bay. They set you up to succeed. I don't think Jordan Love is great. I don't, But Justin Fields has been set up to fail. In college. He played at Ohio State, five star players everywhere relied on his athleticism. Often in Chicago, he doesn't have players around him. We don't know about the coaching. I suspect it's just not good enough and he's not developed into a very good pocket thrower. So he was set up to fail. And remember ninety percent of these first round quarterbacks forget their second third round guys. Ninety percent of the first round guys are not good enough to overcome. I mean Yester. This weekend, Trevor Lawrence had three beautifully thrown balls drop. He got routed at home by the Texans. Very few Andrew Lucks out there, very few John Elways. They don't exist. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Those are generational talents in Chicago. They force you to overcome. I would argue today that if you go to the last twenty years, Chicago's one of the bottom five places in the league for a young quarterback. Really cold, windy, northern weather doesn't help. Need a real strong arm there. It's a defensive culture. They're still celebrating the eighty five Bears. It's old school ownership, and the Green Bay Packers usually have a Hall of famerite quarterback. It's not a coincidence that Kansas City has had great coaches multiple times, the Hunt family, Dick Vermeial Herm Edwards, Andy Reid, Marty Schottenheimer, Hank Stram. They've also had Lenn Dawson, Patrick Mahomes, Alex Smith, Trent Green got to the playoffs, Joe Montana. It's not a coincidence. Certain organizations have better ownership, more stability. They're ahead and progressive. They're not old school in behind Chicago's old school ownership still Worship's defense, Kansas City's ahead of the curve on offense, have been for years, and so there just are organizations in this league. Washington's been another one that make it really hard on young quarterbacks, forcing them to overcome and overcome. I mean, Trevor Lawrence has seen as success. His first coach didn't work, had to overcome this year, protection drop passes, had to overcome. They're scrapping and struggling. My guess is they'll turn it around. But I feel like the Bears are analog in a digital world and they just make it hard and justin Fields, though talented, isn't generationally gifted like a Josh Allen to overcome all the hurdles they put in front of you. I don't know if if Jordan loves any good there's not a lot of hurdles. Aaron Jones is great, good old line. They're not even healthy now and you can win great home field advantage, excellent front office, Green Bay drafts, and develops. They don't rush you, they draft you, you sit for multiple years. I mean the pressure is like this year within the organization, they kept saying, don't rush him. It's gonna be slow and steady. They say the right things, they draft, they do the right thing. Chicago makes it really, really hard. And I just think justin fields is the league average, which is ninety percent of these guys are just not gifted enough to overcome stuff. Cincinnati for years has made it hard. Carson Palmer at one point said I'm out, I'm over it right.

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And I don't just think this is a Los Angeles issue. But the Chargers out played Minnesota yesterday and with the right side the better team, Justin Jefferson, you knew was going to have some yards and touchdowns because that's what he does, especially at home. But so at their own twenty four yard line, the Chargers on a fourth and one goal for it, I thought it was a poor decision. But I want to get into this for a second. Why do I think it's a poor decision Because Minnesota had no timeouts, had struggled increasingly in the game to protect Kirk Cousins, only had a minute fifty left and they had to score a touchdown. Chargers led by four. I would not have gone for it. I think a defensive coach Brandon Staley should trust his defense force Kirk Cousins with no timeouts and shaky protection to score a touchdown. I like those odds. That's the first point. But the other one that needs to be noted. Why are you giving a backup running back your least skilled offensive player. They have a great left tackle, a quarterback, multiple receivers, a talented tight end, a good center, and you're giving it to a backup running back. The Chargers could not run the football all day. What they did marvelously all afternoon was the ability for Justin Herbert to take a snap and I mean a step back, quick throw out to the flat and get four yards plus. They did it eighteen times. They may have done it twenty five times because Mike Williams was hurt, especially late. It was the Keenan Allen Show and tight ends. That was the play. General rule in football, if you're gonna go for it, use your best players. But if you're gonna go for it at your own twenty four, your careers on the line, a backup running back. It just there's so many things that did not make sense. Jimmy Johnson was highly critical on the Fox Show after This has been a trend with Brandon stay. When you watch certain teams in this league, you see Sean Payton has made Russell Wilson better, Mike mcdanil, Kyle Shanahan. You can see really good coaching. My question is how many times in this game did the Chargers defense Brandon Staley's a defensive coach, shoot themselves in the foot twelve penalties. Seemingly a half of those came in key spots against the defense. They bailed the Vikings out multiple times. This is not a well coached team. Justin Herbert once again has to save the franchise. I think they went cheap on the coaching. Higher they could have had Brian day Boll. Listen, there's a play in the NFL. One of the knocks on Brandon Staley is he's condescending. He's young, you sort of know it all. I don't know him well enough to have that opinion, but I've seen it in press conferences. So Philadelphia, the Eagles have created a play over the last year. The entire league is seemingly copying it gets one yard every time. Justin Herbert is six five and a half two forty five. He is one of the big your quarterbacks in the league. Just copy somebody else. Copy the Eagles. Don't think you have all the answers. It's being copied throughout the NFL. You give it to a no burst power running back with an old line that could not create run support all day. What are you doing. It's one thing to not punt it to Kirk Cousins with no timeouts, make him drive sixty five to seventy yards. That's one thing. Increasingly the Chargers got pressure, that's one thing. But to use that player in that spot that call makes absolutely no sense to me. And it was funny because I was I was texting a Charger fan and I'm like, do you fire him before the flight, on the flight or in the tarmac when you get home? Like, this can't be the answer. But Justin Herbert was great. They get a tip ball and interception in the end zone, but there are so many questions about that after the game. Brandon Stay has no apologies for it, all right. I'm not seeking apologies. I'm not one of those media people. I'm never seeking apologies. But I am seeking clarity that running back you couldn't run all day deepen your territory when eighteen times Justin Herbert took the snap, threw it to the flat and got plus yards made no sense to me. Again, don't need an apology. Not looking to fire coaches, but they tried to give that game away six times. If you watch the Vikings Chargers, those were two teams trying to give the game away one of them. We don't think that is that talented outside of Justin Jefferson. We don't think Minnesota is a super talented team. They want a lot of one possession games. Last year, Chargers are really good. They're really good. They drafted good again. They found another pass rusher to go along with a Bosa. They're too good to be in this situation again. A play from on three.

And I don't just think this is a Los Angeles issue. But the Chargers out played Minnesota yesterday and with the right side the better team, Justin Jefferson, you knew was going to have some yards and touchdowns because that's what he does, especially at home. But so at their own twenty four yard line, the Chargers on a fourth and one goal for it, I thought it was a poor decision. But I want to get into this for a second. Why do I think it's a poor decision Because Minnesota had no timeouts, had struggled increasingly in the game to protect Kirk Cousins, only had a minute fifty left and they had to score a touchdown. Chargers led by four. I would not have gone for it. I think a defensive coach Brandon Staley should trust his defense force Kirk Cousins with no timeouts and shaky protection to score a touchdown. I like those odds. That's the first point. But the other one that needs to be noted. Why are you giving a backup running back your least skilled offensive player. They have a great left tackle, a quarterback, multiple receivers, a talented tight end, a good center, and you're giving it to a backup running back. The Chargers could not run the football all day. What they did marvelously all afternoon was the ability for Justin Herbert to take a snap and I mean a step back, quick throw out to the flat and get four yards plus. They did it eighteen times. They may have done it twenty five times because Mike Williams was hurt, especially late. It was the Keenan Allen Show and tight ends. That was the play. General rule in football, if you're gonna go for it, use your best players. But if you're gonna go for it at your own twenty four, your careers on the line, a backup running back. It just there's so many things that did not make sense. Jimmy Johnson was highly critical on the Fox Show after This has been a trend with Brandon stay. When you watch certain teams in this league, you see Sean Payton has made Russell Wilson better, Mike mcdanil, Kyle Shanahan. You can see really good coaching. My question is how many times in this game did the Chargers defense Brandon Staley's a defensive coach, shoot themselves in the foot twelve penalties. Seemingly a half of those came in key spots against the defense. They bailed the Vikings out multiple times. This is not a well coached team. Justin Herbert once again has to save the franchise. I think they went cheap on the coaching. Higher they could have had Brian day Boll. Listen, there's a play in the NFL. One of the knocks on Brandon Staley is he's condescending. He's young, you sort of know it all. I don't know him well enough to have that opinion, but I've seen it in press conferences. So Philadelphia, the Eagles have created a play over the last year. The entire league is seemingly copying it gets one yard every time. Justin Herbert is six five and a half two forty five. He is one of the big your quarterbacks in the league. Just copy somebody else. Copy the Eagles. Don't think you have all the answers. It's being copied throughout the NFL. You give it to a no burst power running back with an old line that could not create run support all day. What are you doing. It's one thing to not punt it to Kirk Cousins with no timeouts, make him drive sixty five to seventy yards. That's one thing. Increasingly the Chargers got pressure, that's one thing. But to use that player in that spot that call makes absolutely no sense to me. And it was funny because I was I was texting a Charger fan and I'm like, do you fire him before the flight, on the flight or in the tarmac when you get home? Like, this can't be the answer. But Justin Herbert was great. They get a tip ball and interception in the end zone, but there are so many questions about that after the game. Brandon Stay has no apologies for it, all right. I'm not seeking apologies. I'm not one of those media people. I'm never seeking apologies. But I am seeking clarity that running back you couldn't run all day deepen your territory when eighteen times Justin Herbert took the snap, threw it to the flat and got plus yards made no sense to me. Again, don't need an apology. Not looking to fire coaches, but they tried to give that game away six times. If you watch the Vikings Chargers, those were two teams trying to give the game away one of them. We don't think that is that talented outside of Justin Jefferson. We don't think Minnesota is a super talented team. They want a lot of one possession games. Last year, Chargers are really good. They're really good. They drafted good again. They found another pass rusher to go along with a Bosa. They're too good to be in this situation again. A play from on three.

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A lot of people are rooting for Deon Sanders. A lot of people seemingly are rooting against Dion Sanders as old as I'm rooting for interesting, So I like what I see. But Colorado and Dion we're not gonna win that game at option. They're gonna win a lot of games as long as Deon's the coach. That's not one of them. Especially missing Travis Hunter, a two way player. Oregon has been recruiting at an elite level for eight years, ten years. Colorado has been recruiting through a portal for six months. One's a great program and one is a great story. Cinderella Finally got into the tournament and played the tar Heels or the Jayhawks, and that's what it looks like. Oregon is a top ten recruiting machine. They're a marketing promotional mecca. They're one of the best programs on the West Coast. Only USC recruits at their level. Denver West one program, and there are many years Oregon out recruits him. They've won twenty six out of twenty seven at Otson. I'm not rooting forty on or against him. I'm rooting for interesting, and he's made Colorado really interesting. But Oregon is deep, has an excellent history, has five star recruits everywhere. An NFL quarterback in Bowneck. This was not a winnable game. And you can say, well, they were a twenty one point underdog to TCU, but we hadn't seen Colorado play. We didn't know how good Shadoure Sanders was and they were a twenty one point dog. This was We know how good shadour is. We've seen them play three times. They're three to zero, and they were still a twenty one point dog. This was not a winnable game. You go look at the last six or seven coaches. Oregon's hired. They've all worked except one, Willie Taggert briefly didn't moved on. They all work at Oregon. Phil Knight, the money, the stadium, the uniforms, the marketing, the recruiting. It's a power football program and Dione and Colorado are not there yet. You see this all the time where it's a great story. Oregon's got NFL guys all over both sides, recruiting elite O lineman D lineman. For eight to ten years, Mario Christobal was a great recruiter. This lending guy made be a better recruiter. I mean, they just they've had from Chip Kelly to Mike Polotti. These guys know what they're doing. Colorado ran into a buzzsaw. And again, you know who beats Oregon at Otson's that's like a that's like an NFL first round quarterback. That would be an SEC team or in Ohio State or Michigan. You're not bringing Colorado into win that football game. And I gonna win that football game. And bo Nicks I thought he was average at Auburn. He's pretty good. He's going to be a first or a second round draft pick. He's pretty good. So we were talking about earlier in the show about how organizations can make it easier or harder for quarterbacks. And so I was watching the Green Bay Saints game. I took the Saints to win that game, figured it would be pretty close, and they Saints totally control the game seventeen to nothing. Derek Carr goes down. Jordan Love gets a break and takes advantage of it and has a very good fourth quarter. And I will say this, I think he's a really good fit for this team. This is the youngest roster in the NFL, Green Bay, and he's one of the younger quarterbacks. It's a good fit. He's not better than Aaron, but he's a better fit. When Aaron would be down seventeen to nothing, and he was rarely down seventeen nothing at home, may never have been the game was over, the body language regressed, Aaron would get in his moods, a bit standoffish, rolling his eyes, sniping at coaches. That was not Jordan Love. Maybe he doesn't have the cynicism because he's young, he's naive, he's more optimistic. Whatever it is. But Green Bay games, when they went down by a couple of touchdowns and they didn't play well. It always felt like, you know, turn off the tap, it's over. It didn't yesterday. He did a good job. It's a completely Aaron Jones led offense. They're not quite healthy yet, but an older, prickly set in his way, sort of Aaron Rodgers. I feel like he got into these games just even the Packers are well run organization. Some Sundays you show up, everything goes wrong. And New Orleans was done. This game was over. It was seventeen to nothing. Car gets hurt and Jordan Love just kept firing away, being optimistic using his legs. This was a great run down the sidelines, very smartly and alertly moves down the sideline, picks up another ten. So again, his attitude, his energy, his focus, his optimism, it was very hopeful. I don't think he's a great quarterback, but I do think he is a great fit now for Green Bay. And I will say this success at quarterback in this league is not just talent. How much of a cap hit are you He's not much of one. Are you healthy he is? Do you connect with teammates he does? Are you coachable he is? Is he committed in the off season? He is as well, there's a lot of things about Jordan Love you should feel very good about. They They needed a break and they got one.

A lot of people are rooting for Deon Sanders. A lot of people seemingly are rooting against Dion Sanders as old as I'm rooting for interesting, So I like what I see. But Colorado and Dion we're not gonna win that game at option. They're gonna win a lot of games as long as Deon's the coach. That's not one of them. Especially missing Travis Hunter, a two way player. Oregon has been recruiting at an elite level for eight years, ten years. Colorado has been recruiting through a portal for six months. One's a great program and one is a great story. Cinderella Finally got into the tournament and played the tar Heels or the Jayhawks, and that's what it looks like. Oregon is a top ten recruiting machine. They're a marketing promotional mecca. They're one of the best programs on the West Coast. Only USC recruits at their level. Denver West one program, and there are many years Oregon out recruits him. They've won twenty six out of twenty seven at Otson. I'm not rooting forty on or against him. I'm rooting for interesting, and he's made Colorado really interesting. But Oregon is deep, has an excellent history, has five star recruits everywhere. An NFL quarterback in Bowneck. This was not a winnable game. And you can say, well, they were a twenty one point underdog to TCU, but we hadn't seen Colorado play. We didn't know how good Shadoure Sanders was and they were a twenty one point dog. This was We know how good shadour is. We've seen them play three times. They're three to zero, and they were still a twenty one point dog. This was not a winnable game. You go look at the last six or seven coaches. Oregon's hired. They've all worked except one, Willie Taggert briefly didn't moved on. They all work at Oregon. Phil Knight, the money, the stadium, the uniforms, the marketing, the recruiting. It's a power football program and Dione and Colorado are not there yet. You see this all the time where it's a great story. Oregon's got NFL guys all over both sides, recruiting elite O lineman D lineman. For eight to ten years, Mario Christobal was a great recruiter. This lending guy made be a better recruiter. I mean, they just they've had from Chip Kelly to Mike Polotti. These guys know what they're doing. Colorado ran into a buzzsaw. And again, you know who beats Oregon at Otson's that's like a that's like an NFL first round quarterback. That would be an SEC team or in Ohio State or Michigan. You're not bringing Colorado into win that football game. And I gonna win that football game. And bo Nicks I thought he was average at Auburn. He's pretty good. He's going to be a first or a second round draft pick. He's pretty good. So we were talking about earlier in the show about how organizations can make it easier or harder for quarterbacks. And so I was watching the Green Bay Saints game. I took the Saints to win that game, figured it would be pretty close, and they Saints totally control the game seventeen to nothing. Derek Carr goes down. Jordan Love gets a break and takes advantage of it and has a very good fourth quarter. And I will say this, I think he's a really good fit for this team. This is the youngest roster in the NFL, Green Bay, and he's one of the younger quarterbacks. It's a good fit. He's not better than Aaron, but he's a better fit. When Aaron would be down seventeen to nothing, and he was rarely down seventeen nothing at home, may never have been the game was over, the body language regressed, Aaron would get in his moods, a bit standoffish, rolling his eyes, sniping at coaches. That was not Jordan Love. Maybe he doesn't have the cynicism because he's young, he's naive, he's more optimistic. Whatever it is. But Green Bay games, when they went down by a couple of touchdowns and they didn't play well. It always felt like, you know, turn off the tap, it's over. It didn't yesterday. He did a good job. It's a completely Aaron Jones led offense. They're not quite healthy yet, but an older, prickly set in his way, sort of Aaron Rodgers. I feel like he got into these games just even the Packers are well run organization. Some Sundays you show up, everything goes wrong. And New Orleans was done. This game was over. It was seventeen to nothing. Car gets hurt and Jordan Love just kept firing away, being optimistic using his legs. This was a great run down the sidelines, very smartly and alertly moves down the sideline, picks up another ten. So again, his attitude, his energy, his focus, his optimism, it was very hopeful. I don't think he's a great quarterback, but I do think he is a great fit now for Green Bay. And I will say this success at quarterback in this league is not just talent. How much of a cap hit are you He's not much of one. Are you healthy he is? Do you connect with teammates he does? Are you coachable he is? Is he committed in the off season? He is as well, there's a lot of things about Jordan Love you should feel very good about. They They needed a break and they got one.

That's okay.

That's okay.

Ohio State needed to break and they got one. Notre Dame didn't enough have enough guys on the field. I looked at the green Bay schedule this morning. Listen, there's a lot of double us here. There's a lot of double us Detroit, Vegas, Denver's flailing, Minnesota rams at home. You know, I imagine November twelfth that Pittsburgh and TJ. Watt's going to be a bumpy Sunday. There's a lot of wins here for green Bay. Being a success at quarterback is not just talent. When Aaron signed that big contract at the end, there were limitations how many other top players they could bring into the roster.

Ohio State needed to break and they got one. Notre Dame didn't enough have enough guys on the field. I looked at the green Bay schedule this morning. Listen, there's a lot of double us here. There's a lot of double us Detroit, Vegas, Denver's flailing, Minnesota rams at home. You know, I imagine November twelfth that Pittsburgh and TJ. Watt's going to be a bumpy Sunday. There's a lot of wins here for green Bay. Being a success at quarterback is not just talent. When Aaron signed that big contract at the end, there were limitations how many other top players they could bring into the roster.

That is part of it.

That is part of it.

So I sat there and I thought, I don't know if he's any good, but he's a good fit. I like the fact they came from behind. For those who don't like Derek Carr, how are the Saints with him seventeen to nothing? How were they without him one hundred yards of offense? Say what you want about Derek Carr. Veteran corps back composed, completes passes.

So I sat there and I thought, I don't know if he's any good, but he's a good fit. I like the fact they came from behind. For those who don't like Derek Carr, how are the Saints with him seventeen to nothing? How were they without him one hundred yards of offense? Say what you want about Derek Carr. Veteran corps back composed, completes passes.

He mattered.

He mattered.

So what did you make a Jordan love.

So what did you make a Jordan love.

Well, I told you my theory last night. Right, they held out Bachdiari, Jones and Watson. They were trending toward playing right late in the week, and I think they were holding him for this Detroit game on Thursday, which is a big game. Member Detroit swept them last year. Yeah, divisional matchup, and let's be real, I look at this. I mean, I'm going to be on green Bay Thursday. I think it's time to put some money on them to win the division Vikings or toast Bears or forget it. And I think this Green Bay team, listen, that's a good comeback down seventeen to nothing. Look, by the way, how about Lafleur going for two to make it seventeen eleven. A lot of people were like, what's he doing?

Well, I told you my theory last night. Right, they held out Bachdiari, Jones and Watson. They were trending toward playing right late in the week, and I think they were holding him for this Detroit game on Thursday, which is a big game. Member Detroit swept them last year. Yeah, divisional matchup, and let's be real, I look at this. I mean, I'm going to be on green Bay Thursday. I think it's time to put some money on them to win the division Vikings or toast Bears or forget it. And I think this Green Bay team, listen, that's a good comeback down seventeen to nothing. Look, by the way, how about Lafleur going for two to make it seventeen eleven. A lot of people were like, what's he doing?

What's he doing?

What's he doing?

He wanted to win the damn game, and that's a great call by him. Man got to give him props.

He wanted to win the damn game, and that's a great call by him. Man got to give him props.

How about this. Look at the Bears who continue to lean to mostly defensive coaches, and then you look at the Packers Holme, Grin McCarthy, Matt Lafleur offense, offense, star quarterbacks. Just look at Chicago how young quarterbacks do. And look at green Bay. Green Bay drafts them multiple years. They can sit and learn the system. Then they get an offensive coach. They always get good offensive line. Green Bay does offense right. They're not always the flashiest, but Jordan Love. If he fails, it will be because of Jordan Love. Justin Fields, there's a lot of reasons he's flailing. Jordan Love, line, weapons, coaching, continuity. Green Bay is a really well run business. Chicago isn't.

How about this. Look at the Bears who continue to lean to mostly defensive coaches, and then you look at the Packers Holme, Grin McCarthy, Matt Lafleur offense, offense, star quarterbacks. Just look at Chicago how young quarterbacks do. And look at green Bay. Green Bay drafts them multiple years. They can sit and learn the system. Then they get an offensive coach. They always get good offensive line. Green Bay does offense right. They're not always the flashiest, but Jordan Love. If he fails, it will be because of Jordan Love. Justin Fields, there's a lot of reasons he's flailing. Jordan Love, line, weapons, coaching, continuity. Green Bay is a really well run business. Chicago isn't.

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All right, blazing five pretty good. Week three and one. We took the Chargers doing on the road the Saints plus one and a half. We covered by half a point New England to win and cover the spread. Fifty five five percent is the goal. So I need about four more weekends to look like this. I have the Rams plus three.

All right, blazing five pretty good. Week three and one. We took the Chargers doing on the road the Saints plus one and a half. We covered by half a point New England to win and cover the spread. Fifty five five percent is the goal. So I need about four more weekends to look like this. I have the Rams plus three.

Tonight where Colin was raw.

Tonight where Colin was raw.

I didn't necessarily think the Broncos were a super Bowl team, but they are a mess. Zero to three. What's happened to their defense? Major penalty issues, and it appears they quit. That's a cultural locker room issue. Now Miami's really good, well coached. Tyreek Hill is so much fun to watch, so many weapons, even in the red zone, a cluttered space, their deception, their magic the closer they get to that cluttered end zone. But I was wrong on the Broncos. They appear to be a team in turmoil.

I didn't necessarily think the Broncos were a super Bowl team, but they are a mess. Zero to three. What's happened to their defense? Major penalty issues, and it appears they quit. That's a cultural locker room issue. Now Miami's really good, well coached. Tyreek Hill is so much fun to watch, so many weapons, even in the red zone, a cluttered space, their deception, their magic the closer they get to that cluttered end zone. But I was wrong on the Broncos. They appear to be a team in turmoil.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Jay Glazer reported Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan their camps got a hold of the Jets, and the Jets said, no thanks, We're gonna stick with Zach Wilson. Now they may not stick with Zach Wilson for a long time. I don't think you bring a quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. I'm fine with because you can win a Super Bowl with him. I don't think you're gonna do that with Carson Wentz, Kirk Cousins, or Matt Ryan. I would stick it out. Zach Wilson, draft another quarterback next year in the third, fourth, fifth round. Aaron comes back. This organization's had too much chaos, too much change, too much turmoil. It's a bad year. You got a bad break with Aaron Rodgers.

Jay Glazer reported Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan their camps got a hold of the Jets, and the Jets said, no thanks, We're gonna stick with Zach Wilson. Now they may not stick with Zach Wilson for a long time. I don't think you bring a quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. I'm fine with because you can win a Super Bowl with him. I don't think you're gonna do that with Carson Wentz, Kirk Cousins, or Matt Ryan. I would stick it out. Zach Wilson, draft another quarterback next year in the third, fourth, fifth round. Aaron comes back. This organization's had too much chaos, too much change, too much turmoil. It's a bad year. You got a bad break with Aaron Rodgers.

Stick with it.

Stick with it.

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Where Colin was rong?

How about CJ. Stroud missing offensive lineman. He's an adult, he's a professional. He reads the defense really like what I see, shaky old line, not a lot of great targets. Rookie head coach and played caller. You know what, he throws it to the right spot. He's a big kid. Jared Goff was his comp that there wasn't gonna be a lot of athletic juice. But he's a grown up. He's a professional. He's an adult. He's got a ninety eight passer rating, hasn't thrown an interception. He feels like he's in total control of the game. And that's a lot. That's all I want from a rookie. I don't need you to be Mahomes. I don't need you to read your second, third, fourth receiver. He's in control at home and away, way better than I thought as a rookie. Good stuff. Where Colin was right, Well, what do you know, Dak Prescott playing from behind on the road is not the same Dak Prescott. I've said this, He's gonna be as good as his weapons. When he's missing multiple offensive line starters. It's not gonna be pretty. His numbers when he throws over thirty five times a game, his career numbers are bad. Dak's intelligence, his leadership, his guidance, his toughness is all a plus. But he's not a guy that's gonna carry very He's less mobile than he used to be because of lower body injuries. Greg Cosells pointed that out. But as much as we like Dak, aren't most of the reasons the intangibles and not the pure talent where Colin was raw Well, Arizona, I'm wrong, is not the worst team in the league. Joshua Dobbs. You can start Joshua Dobbs and win some games. They're feisty, They've got by the way. Joshua Dobbs so far this year is completing seventy eight percent of his throws ninety eight passer rating. If Kyler Murray comes back and Joshua Dobbs is your backup and Kyler Murray's healthy, that's not a bad quarterback room, that's not a bad quarterback. I'm not saying they're a great team, but I thought they were putrid and the worst team in the league. They're not Bears unwatchable, Jets unwatchable. Arizona's got some dudes.

How about CJ. Stroud missing offensive lineman. He's an adult, he's a professional. He reads the defense really like what I see, shaky old line, not a lot of great targets. Rookie head coach and played caller. You know what, he throws it to the right spot. He's a big kid. Jared Goff was his comp that there wasn't gonna be a lot of athletic juice. But he's a grown up. He's a professional. He's an adult. He's got a ninety eight passer rating, hasn't thrown an interception. He feels like he's in total control of the game. And that's a lot. That's all I want from a rookie. I don't need you to be Mahomes. I don't need you to read your second, third, fourth receiver. He's in control at home and away, way better than I thought as a rookie. Good stuff. Where Colin was right, Well, what do you know, Dak Prescott playing from behind on the road is not the same Dak Prescott. I've said this, He's gonna be as good as his weapons. When he's missing multiple offensive line starters. It's not gonna be pretty. His numbers when he throws over thirty five times a game, his career numbers are bad. Dak's intelligence, his leadership, his guidance, his toughness is all a plus. But he's not a guy that's gonna carry very He's less mobile than he used to be because of lower body injuries. Greg Cosells pointed that out. But as much as we like Dak, aren't most of the reasons the intangibles and not the pure talent where Colin was raw Well, Arizona, I'm wrong, is not the worst team in the league. Joshua Dobbs. You can start Joshua Dobbs and win some games. They're feisty, They've got by the way. Joshua Dobbs so far this year is completing seventy eight percent of his throws ninety eight passer rating. If Kyler Murray comes back and Joshua Dobbs is your backup and Kyler Murray's healthy, that's not a bad quarterback room, that's not a bad quarterback. I'm not saying they're a great team, but I thought they were putrid and the worst team in the league. They're not Bears unwatchable, Jets unwatchable. Arizona's got some dudes.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

I didn't buy into the Chicago Bears hype. I don't know if Matt Eberflus can coach, and I know defensive coaches who are rookie coaches with the young quarterbacks who are unproven is a bad combination. They just don't win enough games, and now it's regressed to their getting blown out early. They've lost thirteen straight. I'm not sure who you blame, but here's what concerns me, defensive coach, Same with the Chargers. Why is your defense so bad? I'm not asking you to solve everything, but Sean McDermott solve Buffalo's defense quickly. Right offensive coaches Andy Reid goes into a play, even Sean Payton. With Denver Russell Wilson's passer rating fifteen percent higher, they're averaging a touchdown more a game. You gotta solve your side of the ball within two years. This defense is worse than last year where Colin was raw. My early fascination with Sam Howell was misguided. Good, hell, he was awful, just terrible. My bad I don't know. I kind of like what the commanders were doing. He was overwhelmed. Four picks, nine sacks didn't get great production. I got a little hyper on that. Where Colin was right the perpetually underappreciated Derek Carr. He was in the game, Saints in controlled at Lambeau seventeen to nothing. He gets hurt, the team can't move the sticks. Listen, we don't think Derek Carr is sensational. This guy has spent a career. You know, he's thirteenth all time and fourth quarter comebacks. When he's in the game, you're under control, You're not in chaos. With that defense, you can move the chains. I don't think there's ever been a quarterback in this league who's good, dependable, and perpetually criticized like Derek Carr. Nice, solid be guy. Nobody thinks he's a star. When you try to tell me Dak's a star, that's when I have issue. Dak's good B plus. Derek Carr is good be to a B plus. That's what he is, but nobody will acknowledge it.

I didn't buy into the Chicago Bears hype. I don't know if Matt Eberflus can coach, and I know defensive coaches who are rookie coaches with the young quarterbacks who are unproven is a bad combination. They just don't win enough games, and now it's regressed to their getting blown out early. They've lost thirteen straight. I'm not sure who you blame, but here's what concerns me, defensive coach, Same with the Chargers. Why is your defense so bad? I'm not asking you to solve everything, but Sean McDermott solve Buffalo's defense quickly. Right offensive coaches Andy Reid goes into a play, even Sean Payton. With Denver Russell Wilson's passer rating fifteen percent higher, they're averaging a touchdown more a game. You gotta solve your side of the ball within two years. This defense is worse than last year where Colin was raw. My early fascination with Sam Howell was misguided. Good, hell, he was awful, just terrible. My bad I don't know. I kind of like what the commanders were doing. He was overwhelmed. Four picks, nine sacks didn't get great production. I got a little hyper on that. Where Colin was right the perpetually underappreciated Derek Carr. He was in the game, Saints in controlled at Lambeau seventeen to nothing. He gets hurt, the team can't move the sticks. Listen, we don't think Derek Carr is sensational. This guy has spent a career. You know, he's thirteenth all time and fourth quarter comebacks. When he's in the game, you're under control, You're not in chaos. With that defense, you can move the chains. I don't think there's ever been a quarterback in this league who's good, dependable, and perpetually criticized like Derek Carr. Nice, solid be guy. Nobody thinks he's a star. When you try to tell me Dak's a star, that's when I have issue. Dak's good B plus. Derek Carr is good be to a B plus. That's what he is, but nobody will acknowledge it.

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The former USC star in a good mood these days. Eleven NFL seasons. He's also every morning on Undisputed in studio. Keishawn Johnson is now joining us on the show. Hopefully Keishawan is a regular on our show. You know, on our show, you don't have to wear a tie. We're a little more casual. You're very professional this morning, and we appreciate it. Let me, I want to that's okay, you look good, Go ahead and move that mic.

The former USC star in a good mood these days. Eleven NFL seasons. He's also every morning on Undisputed in studio. Keishawn Johnson is now joining us on the show. Hopefully Keishawan is a regular on our show. You know, on our show, you don't have to wear a tie. We're a little more casual. You're very professional this morning, and we appreciate it. Let me, I want to that's okay, you look good, Go ahead and move that mic.

Obvious, kids and family and all of them was here, so you know.

Obvious, kids and family and all of them was here, so you know.

I was chilling, all right, So I want to ask you about this. Coach tend to say, I trust my players. I get it. But if you're gonna go for it that you're own twenty four and you haven't run the ball eleven carries twelve yards all day for Joshua Kelly, then you got to get it to Keenan Allen, to Justin Herbert. Forget the fact of going for it. We can we most of us don't love it. Couldn't I argue, get the ball to your best players in the biggest moments. He picked the wrong guy, a backup running back.

I was chilling, all right, So I want to ask you about this. Coach tend to say, I trust my players. I get it. But if you're gonna go for it that you're own twenty four and you haven't run the ball eleven carries twelve yards all day for Joshua Kelly, then you got to get it to Keenan Allen, to Justin Herbert. Forget the fact of going for it. We can we most of us don't love it. Couldn't I argue, get the ball to your best players in the biggest moments. He picked the wrong guy, a backup running back.

He look, it doesn't matter if it's a backup running back and starting running back or whoever that moment in that time, there was nowhere for him to go. Where could he go? He ran right up the back. First of all, it's a bad play, okay. The selection of the play was bad. Even though it was only a yard. You could do something different to get that yard. You could have some sort of misdirection. You don't want to toss the ball in that situation because therefore you going backwards, but you can neck, you bootleg, you could do something that would allow you to get that yard. The whole way there, they didn't get any push, so therefore they were dominated. And in terms of the trusting your god, what else.

He look, it doesn't matter if it's a backup running back and starting running back or whoever that moment in that time, there was nowhere for him to go. Where could he go? He ran right up the back. First of all, it's a bad play, okay. The selection of the play was bad. Even though it was only a yard. You could do something different to get that yard. You could have some sort of misdirection. You don't want to toss the ball in that situation because therefore you going backwards, but you can neck, you bootleg, you could do something that would allow you to get that yard. The whole way there, they didn't get any push, so therefore they were dominated. And in terms of the trusting your god, what else.

You're gonna say? I trust you? What else am I gonna say? I don't trust you anymore? That's just the reality of.

You're gonna say? I trust you? What else am I gonna say? I don't trust you anymore? That's just the reality of.

Now no timeouts left? You punt the Kirk Cousins buck fifty left increasingly in that game, as you saw, Chargers were getting great pressure. Yeah, isn't that the better bet?

Now no timeouts left? You punt the Kirk Cousins buck fifty left increasingly in that game, as you saw, Chargers were getting great pressure. Yeah, isn't that the better bet?

The best bet? So? Okay?

The best bet? So? Okay?

Often to often, many times in professional sports and even collegiate sports, the sports in general, the coaches think they're smarter than everybody else. They're gonna be geniuses because they sit up here and they listening. You call them a genius, They say me, call them a genius. So they start to buy into this theory. I'm a great defensive coordinator, I'm a genius, and I could do it this way. Punt the damn ball man, What the hell's wrong with you? Just punt the ball.

Often to often, many times in professional sports and even collegiate sports, the sports in general, the coaches think they're smarter than everybody else. They're gonna be geniuses because they sit up here and they listening. You call them a genius, They say me, call them a genius. So they start to buy into this theory. I'm a great defensive coordinator, I'm a genius, and I could do it this way. Punt the damn ball man, What the hell's wrong with you? Just punt the ball.

Zero timeouts, as you mentioned, non zero zero timeouts. Punt the ball.

Zero timeouts, as you mentioned, non zero zero timeouts. Punt the ball.

Make them go eighty yards to score seven not three seven. You know how hard that is to do in the National Football League. False start, back them up, holding you back them up, drop ball, closs, all those sort of things.

Make them go eighty yards to score seven not three seven. You know how hard that is to do in the National Football League. False start, back them up, holding you back them up, drop ball, closs, all those sort of things.

I think they're the most penalized team in the League of Minnesota. Yeah, he beat themselves continuous. So you have an offense that's been beating themselves all year in immobile quarterback that increasingly is getting bad protection. It made no sense.

I think they're the most penalized team in the League of Minnesota. Yeah, he beat themselves continuous. So you have an offense that's been beating themselves all year in immobile quarterback that increasingly is getting bad protection. It made no sense.

It made zero.

It made zero.

But he's gonna try to make it make sense by trying to convince you. Oh, I trust my defense. I trust my offense more because it was a four points not three points.

But he's gonna try to make it make sense by trying to convince you. Oh, I trust my defense. I trust my offense more because it was a four points not three points.

If it was three points, maybe a change is what I think. No kidding. If it was three points and you gave him the ball.

If it was three points, maybe a change is what I think. No kidding. If it was three points and you gave him the ball.

You be fired immediately on the tart map, much like Lane Kiffin, because they'll go right now, kick a field goal, tie the game up, and take it in the overtime.

You be fired immediately on the tart map, much like Lane Kiffin, because they'll go right now, kick a field goal, tie the game up, and take it in the overtime.

You lose, so yeah, you'll get fired. That is how that goes.

You lose, so yeah, you'll get fired. That is how that goes.

But he tries to convince everybody that he did the right thing. It was the probably the stupidest thing ever. Now, a guy like me is some other players that I played with in my career, we wouldn't have had. I can only imagine Brian Cox playing with b Cox if he would have allowed that to happen. Brian Cox would have been like, are you out of your damn mind?

But he tries to convince everybody that he did the right thing. It was the probably the stupidest thing ever. Now, a guy like me is some other players that I played with in my career, we wouldn't have had. I can only imagine Brian Cox playing with b Cox if he would have allowed that to happen. Brian Cox would have been like, are you out of your damn mind?

Same with me.

Same with me.

I would have said to him, even though I'm on office side of the bus, said man, you don'ta punt? That the hell's wrong with you. But sometimes you don't have players like that on your team. And he knows the post of the team, so he's gonna do that instead of being overridden by a player and saying, man, what are you doing? They have no time out? Why do you why are you making this decision? And it makes a coach now think, yeah, you're probably right, you know, let's just kick.

I would have said to him, even though I'm on office side of the bus, said man, you don'ta punt? That the hell's wrong with you. But sometimes you don't have players like that on your team. And he knows the post of the team, so he's gonna do that instead of being overridden by a player and saying, man, what are you doing? They have no time out? Why do you why are you making this decision? And it makes a coach now think, yeah, you're probably right, you know, let's just kick.

It right.

It right.

It's not that Denver lost, it's how they lost. It did feel, And you don't see this in the NFL much. You don't see it in hockey or the NFL because you have to play hard. Also, the games are taped. There's film on Monday, you don't want to mail it. In NBA Baseball, it's the whole different ball game, game next day. So with Denver, should I be concerned? Maybe we just overvalued how big of a lift it was. It took Belichick two years, Pete Carroll three in Seattle. Kyle Shanahan, we forget this, Kishawn. He went like six and ten, four and twelve.

It's not that Denver lost, it's how they lost. It did feel, And you don't see this in the NFL much. You don't see it in hockey or the NFL because you have to play hard. Also, the games are taped. There's film on Monday, you don't want to mail it. In NBA Baseball, it's the whole different ball game, game next day. So with Denver, should I be concerned? Maybe we just overvalued how big of a lift it was. It took Belichick two years, Pete Carroll three in Seattle. Kyle Shanahan, we forget this, Kishawn. He went like six and ten, four and twelve.

Well, I don't forget.

Well, I don't forget.

So maybe we just we think this is a quick fix, and this house just has it's.

So maybe we just we think this is a quick fix, and this house just has it's.

Not a quick fix at all.

Not a quick fix at all.

You figure Super Bowl winning coach Sean Payton comes in, he's gonna change everything. Well, the thing that he's changing first and foremost is to get the quarterback stable and under control and solidified. A. Yeah, you get that solidified and stabilized, and you calm that down, then you look at the roster and other pieces that you have. Defensively, it's a new scheme.

You figure Super Bowl winning coach Sean Payton comes in, he's gonna change everything. Well, the thing that he's changing first and foremost is to get the quarterback stable and under control and solidified. A. Yeah, you get that solidified and stabilized, and you calm that down, then you look at the roster and other pieces that you have. Defensively, it's a new scheme.

Now.

Now.

Vance Joseph is a defensive coordinator. This is not Vic Fangio. This is not one of those situations. This is not what they were running a year ago with under Hackett. So you gotta try to give it some time to develop. I'm not worried about Look, it's embarrassing to get seventy hung on you, but it wasn't like they were deliberately trying to score seven.

Vance Joseph is a defensive coordinator. This is not Vic Fangio. This is not one of those situations. This is not what they were running a year ago with under Hackett. So you gotta try to give it some time to develop. I'm not worried about Look, it's embarrassing to get seventy hung on you, but it wasn't like they were deliberately trying to score seven.

It just they're paid to score. You're paid to stop.

It just they're paid to score. You're paid to stop.

How much of this key shown and you've run into these buzz saws. You've been on these buzz saws at USC. How much of this is Miami's on a roll, they're healthy and they're great.

How much of this key shown and you've run into these buzz saws. You've been on these buzz saws at USC. How much of this is Miami's on a roll, they're healthy and they're great.

I think a lot of it is. Miami is a better football team than Denver. They have a better quarterback than Denver. Coaching year two, a coach in year two, everybody understands the system. Where you have a new coach who's been in the league before, but he's trying to figure everything out he's got.

I think a lot of it is. Miami is a better football team than Denver. They have a better quarterback than Denver. Coaching year two, a coach in year two, everybody understands the system. Where you have a new coach who's been in the league before, but he's trying to figure everything out he's got.

This is an.

This is an.

Evaluation year for Sean Payton in the Denver Broncos. They're evaluating exactly what it is that they have. They didn't come into the season saying we're going to the playoffs, they say, hey, let's see what we got, Let's see what pieces we need when we go to the draft board and free agency in twenty twenty four.

Evaluation year for Sean Payton in the Denver Broncos. They're evaluating exactly what it is that they have. They didn't come into the season saying we're going to the playoffs, they say, hey, let's see what we got, Let's see what pieces we need when we go to the draft board and free agency in twenty twenty four.

It does feel like, either at the trading deadline or in the draft, they should concentrate on defense. I don't think their D line gets much of a push. I like Mems Judy Sutton pays.

It does feel like, either at the trading deadline or in the draft, they should concentrate on defense. I don't think their D line gets much of a push. I like Mems Judy Sutton pays.

Yeah, they are, they are good players, but again, this is an evaluation here. If all of us it turns into something, and great, that's a feather in their cap. But for the most part, they're trying to evaluate these players to try.

Yeah, they are, they are good players, but again, this is an evaluation here. If all of us it turns into something, and great, that's a feather in their cap. But for the most part, they're trying to evaluate these players to try.

To see what they have in the long term goal.

To see what they have in the long term goal.

This is not a short term fixed This isn't oh man, we getting ready to roll right now.

This is not a short term fixed This isn't oh man, we getting ready to roll right now.

So you were in New York for four years with the Jets, and so j Mack this is his beloved team. And I've said, listen, you bringing Aaron. You gave up some money and some draft caps. Yeah, and you got a really crappy break. Let's just get through Zach Wilson year. It's ugly. He's not the future.

So you were in New York for four years with the Jets, and so j Mack this is his beloved team. And I've said, listen, you bringing Aaron. You gave up some money and some draft caps. Yeah, and you got a really crappy break. Let's just get through Zach Wilson year. It's ugly. He's not the future.

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

His belief is go get Kirk Cousins, And I'm like, oh, good god, you guys reach on everybody. What do you do if you're Zach Wilson, Because here's the fear, the ownership, which you know runs through coaches and ugly and criticism. Wfans crushing them. The New York Post is crushing them. I think Sola deserves another year in Joe Douglas, but you know in that set to Giants Town, they may just blow if Zach's ugly for eight weeks, Salla gets blamed. What would you do if you're up? Do you go get a winz A Matt Ryan, a Kirk Cousins or do you stay put and maybe look really bad the next six of the next twelve weeks.

His belief is go get Kirk Cousins, And I'm like, oh, good god, you guys reach on everybody. What do you do if you're Zach Wilson, Because here's the fear, the ownership, which you know runs through coaches and ugly and criticism. Wfans crushing them. The New York Post is crushing them. I think Sola deserves another year in Joe Douglas, but you know in that set to Giants Town, they may just blow if Zach's ugly for eight weeks, Salla gets blamed. What would you do if you're up? Do you go get a winz A Matt Ryan, a Kirk Cousins or do you stay put and maybe look really bad the next six of the next twelve weeks.

I would start by saying, what do I really believe in? Do I really believe that I'm gonna waste another year of a championship defense? If I think I'm gonna waste another year of a championship defense, then I've got to look to my coordinator and Hacket and find out if Nathaniel Hackett really knows what the hell he's doing, or is my coordinator really the guy who tore his achilles in Aaron Rodgers? Because when you when you run Bryce Hall the last two weeks sixteen attempts in two weeks. We just saw what the Arizona Cardinals did to the Dallas Cowboys. So go back to a week ago. They gave a ball to Bryce Hall four times, okay four times in week one, we saw him get the football against the Buffalo Bills, and.