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All right, we got to a Friday.

All right, we got to a Friday.

What a week it has been, not just for Lebron James, but primarily.

What a week it has been, not just for Lebron James, but primarily.

Live in Los Angeles.

Live in Los Angeles.

It is the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac, we got a loaded show today. NFL season ends, we take a vacation, comeback. There's gonna be NBA March Madness free agency. But the NBA did us as solid this year, Jimmy Butler. The Warriors has been seven to one. It's a new staff and a new team and Lebron and Luca now converging. In Lost Angelus, they beat another good Western team. The West is much deeper than the East. So you start beating these Dallas, Kyrie, you start beating Denver, you start beating Minnesota. These are impressive wins a little bit, A little bit. Yeah, they're pretty good. So I'm gonna start with this. Luca's not playing that well, let's just say it out loud. He's not in great shape, never been a good defender, looks a little soft one for nine last night on shooting threes, and everybody sort of hedges their bet. We've all been doing this, myself included, for the last two years. We've all been doing this in the media. We just don't want to say, you know, is Lebron like the second best player in the league. Nobody wants to say that, right, It's hey, jo Kich, Joannis. I have watched Lebron in the last week outplay Aunt Edwards, Luca, Yo Kich and Kyrie Irving. He has been the best player in the NBA in the last week. On every single night, is Lebron the best player in the league. No, on any given night, is Lebron the best player in the league.

It is the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac, we got a loaded show today. NFL season ends, we take a vacation, comeback. There's gonna be NBA March Madness free agency. But the NBA did us as solid this year, Jimmy Butler. The Warriors has been seven to one. It's a new staff and a new team and Lebron and Luca now converging. In Lost Angelus, they beat another good Western team. The West is much deeper than the East. So you start beating these Dallas, Kyrie, you start beating Denver, you start beating Minnesota. These are impressive wins a little bit, A little bit. Yeah, they're pretty good. So I'm gonna start with this. Luca's not playing that well, let's just say it out loud. He's not in great shape, never been a good defender, looks a little soft one for nine last night on shooting threes, and everybody sort of hedges their bet. We've all been doing this, myself included, for the last two years. We've all been doing this in the media. We just don't want to say, you know, is Lebron like the second best player in the league. Nobody wants to say that, right, It's hey, jo Kich, Joannis. I have watched Lebron in the last week outplay Aunt Edwards, Luca, Yo Kich and Kyrie Irving. He has been the best player in the NBA in the last week. On every single night, is Lebron the best player in the league. No, on any given night, is Lebron the best player in the league.

Yeah?

Yeah?

His defense right now, it looks like he's twenty seven. It's insane. His energy better than Luca. His shooting right now better than Luca, his on ball defense, his scoring. Lebron at forty years old, has better consistent energy than any other Laker. Now. Austin Reeves is close. Austin plays hard all the time. But Lebron's fourth quarter energy, it doesn't even make sense. His on ball defense right now, this is the best defense he's played in eight years. He's a better defender at forty than Luca is at twenty six. His energy, I'm telling you right now, is Lebron showing off. And I'll get to Steph in a second. It feels like Steph is kind of showing off that Jimmy Butler like listen to old man, you know, and I feel when Tom Brady beat Mahomes at Arrowhead Stadium in the AFC Championship and then he beat him in the Super Bowl, everybody by then was falling in love and sort of was saying it, you know, like.

His defense right now, it looks like he's twenty seven. It's insane. His energy better than Luca. His shooting right now better than Luca, his on ball defense, his scoring. Lebron at forty years old, has better consistent energy than any other Laker. Now. Austin Reeves is close. Austin plays hard all the time. But Lebron's fourth quarter energy, it doesn't even make sense. His on ball defense right now, this is the best defense he's played in eight years. He's a better defender at forty than Luca is at twenty six. His energy, I'm telling you right now, is Lebron showing off. And I'll get to Steph in a second. It feels like Steph is kind of showing off that Jimmy Butler like listen to old man, you know, and I feel when Tom Brady beat Mahomes at Arrowhead Stadium in the AFC Championship and then he beat him in the Super Bowl, everybody by then was falling in love and sort of was saying it, you know, like.

Brady's old Brady.

Brady's old Brady.

You know, not a lot left in the tank for old Tommy. Ma Holmes is the new king, and Brady beat him twice in Arrowhead and overtime, and then the Super Bowl, tom Brady reminding you, yeah, it goes through me, and Lebron is reminding everybody right now, yeah, the West for ten years, the East went through me ten twelve years, however long he was over there. Now the West is going to go through me, so at minimum, And I understand that Luca got hurt, hadn't played for a long time. He's playing himself back into shape, like I get it, and he'll be a better shooter. His jumper right now is short consistently. That's like Cardio that's legs, his jumper short. But at forty years old, Lebron James last year had last year at thirty nine years old, Ron had eighty four dunks. When Michael Jordan was thirty nine, mj had twenty one, four times the dunks of a guy known for dunks, Michael Jordan at the same age. And I think Lebron this year is better than Lebron last year. And the other thing is because Ad was traded into Dallas. Lebron is hyper aware that he has to play better defense because Luca is a lousy defensive player and Austin Reeves is limited. So Lebron is like, oh, oh, you need me to do that too, all right? His defense is insane. So he's averaging twenty five eight to nine, that's what That's not the part that's blowing me away.

You know, not a lot left in the tank for old Tommy. Ma Holmes is the new king, and Brady beat him twice in Arrowhead and overtime, and then the Super Bowl, tom Brady reminding you, yeah, it goes through me, and Lebron is reminding everybody right now, yeah, the West for ten years, the East went through me ten twelve years, however long he was over there. Now the West is going to go through me, so at minimum, And I understand that Luca got hurt, hadn't played for a long time. He's playing himself back into shape, like I get it, and he'll be a better shooter. His jumper right now is short consistently. That's like Cardio that's legs, his jumper short. But at forty years old, Lebron James last year had last year at thirty nine years old, Ron had eighty four dunks. When Michael Jordan was thirty nine, mj had twenty one, four times the dunks of a guy known for dunks, Michael Jordan at the same age. And I think Lebron this year is better than Lebron last year. And the other thing is because Ad was traded into Dallas. Lebron is hyper aware that he has to play better defense because Luca is a lousy defensive player and Austin Reeves is limited. So Lebron is like, oh, oh, you need me to do that too, all right? His defense is insane. So he's averaging twenty five eight to nine, that's what That's not the part that's blowing me away.

It's the energy in the defense.

It's the energy in the defense.

And you know this, it's I feel like I've said this for years. I think the NBA playoffs should be a three game first round and then five games even through the finals. I think create urgency. I mean March madness. College basketball doesn't have much talent and it gets tremendous ratings. Why there's urgency. I mean, you know, Cooper Flag, take him off Duke. They got a couple of decent players, but a Duke game with Cooper Flag against Xavier will get a better rating maybe than like the Western Conference or Eastern Conference finals, because it's like you have to watch. You got two and a half hours. Somebody's out could be Duke and Cooper Flag. And so I think there needs to be no more urgency. And I also think in the NBA regular season, I'd cut it down to sixty eight games.

And you know this, it's I feel like I've said this for years. I think the NBA playoffs should be a three game first round and then five games even through the finals. I think create urgency. I mean March madness. College basketball doesn't have much talent and it gets tremendous ratings. Why there's urgency. I mean, you know, Cooper Flag, take him off Duke. They got a couple of decent players, but a Duke game with Cooper Flag against Xavier will get a better rating maybe than like the Western Conference or Eastern Conference finals, because it's like you have to watch. You got two and a half hours. Somebody's out could be Duke and Cooper Flag. And so I think there needs to be no more urgency. And I also think in the NBA regular season, I'd cut it down to sixty eight games.

Start it six weeks later.

Start it six weeks later.

Get away from college and pro football, you know, start playing Christmas. Start playing Christmas not your first TV game. Start plan then. So I understand that if you're Lebron, you're Steph Curry and you're not with a championship team. You're on a treadmill to nowhere. It is so clear between Steph and Lebron that these moves have absolutely energized these guys. And just watch Lebron's defense. It is elite and he has outplayed aunt, Luka, Kyrie and Jokic in the last week. He has been the best player on the floor. And here is uh, here's Lebron after We.

Get away from college and pro football, you know, start playing Christmas. Start playing Christmas not your first TV game. Start plan then. So I understand that if you're Lebron, you're Steph Curry and you're not with a championship team. You're on a treadmill to nowhere. It is so clear between Steph and Lebron that these moves have absolutely energized these guys. And just watch Lebron's defense. It is elite and he has outplayed aunt, Luka, Kyrie and Jokic in the last week. He has been the best player on the floor. And here is uh, here's Lebron after We.

Know we could have been a lot better offensively, but you know we've been hanging our head on our under the defensive end. And you know, when you don't shoot the ball well, you got to be able to get stops. And they made a ruin. They're really good team. We saw what they did a couple of nights ago against Okay. See when it was down big and those young guys came in, sparked them, give them good energy. So you know they cut it down to three. I believe at one point, boy was able to execute. After today, get some time he stops and was able to come out with the winner.

Know we could have been a lot better offensively, but you know we've been hanging our head on our under the defensive end. And you know, when you don't shoot the ball well, you got to be able to get stops. And they made a ruin. They're really good team. We saw what they did a couple of nights ago against Okay. See when it was down big and those young guys came in, sparked them, give them good energy. So you know they cut it down to three. I believe at one point, boy was able to execute. After today, get some time he stops and was able to come out with the winner.

So Lebron in February twenty nine and a half points, ten rebounds, seven and a half assays, shooting fifty five percent from the floor, forty six percent on three pointers, and playing elite on ball defense at forty at thirty nine, he had eighty four dunks. At thirty nine, MJ had twenty one. Like, you're a watching this is unprecedented. You know, we're always looking ahead. Don't just live in this moment. What you're watching doesn't make any sense. It's Brady in Tampa. It makes no sense that Brady was that year first, second best quarterback in the league.

So Lebron in February twenty nine and a half points, ten rebounds, seven and a half assays, shooting fifty five percent from the floor, forty six percent on three pointers, and playing elite on ball defense at forty at thirty nine, he had eighty four dunks. At thirty nine, MJ had twenty one. Like, you're a watching this is unprecedented. You know, we're always looking ahead. Don't just live in this moment. What you're watching doesn't make any sense. It's Brady in Tampa. It makes no sense that Brady was that year first, second best quarterback in the league.

All right, So I want to give you a update this.

All right, So I want to give you a update this.

According to Diana Russini, the Rams are meeting with Matt Stafford at their facility in person today regarding the future. So the Raiders and the Giants, and I think the Raiders are in play here have discussed a two year contract that includes ninety to one hundred million guaranteed, and a decision is expected soon. So I was thinking about this. I think if it's only two years and the Raiders are not giving you a third, then I would stay with the Rams and take less. The Rams can get you to seventy five eighty eighty five, I would take that over one hundred on a two year deal. If they're both offering two years, Raiders go to a third year forty five million, no state tax, I'd probably consider that. But it's really interesting, and what I'm about to say won't. You'll think it's ridiculous initially, but just think about the Rams are not far off from winning a Super Bowl. They're really close. They had they were driving to beat Philly in a snowstorm, and that defense got better every other week. And they're all coming back and they're super talented. So you're not going to score a lot of points on the Rams going forward. If they get a corner in the draft of the first pick or second, they don't have a hole. That defense is good everywhere and young and cheap. If Matt Stafford stays and wins a second Super Bowl. And I know legacies are all about ego, but if you put fifteen twenty twenty five years into being a politician, a talk show host, a quarterback, a landscaper, legacies matter. You want to be remembered fondly, not just as a husband and as a dad, but what did you do professionally in your community? If he wins a second Super Bowl, that's the same as Elway, Peyton, Manning and Big Ben. But it's more than Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young and and I've said this for years, Matt Stafford was better in high school than Aaron Rodgers, much better in college, better his first four years in the NFL, and much better now in his last three. Now, there were ten years where he was in dysfunctional Detroit and put up a lot of stats, but didn't get much to the playoffs and do much. And meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers was in Green Bay, highly functional, great draft and developed organization, good coaching, and had a better middle of ten years. But if you had to put Aaron in Detroit and Matt in Green Bay, I think he has more than one ring. But my take is legacy matters. If Stafford wins a second Super Bowl, that means he would go four to zero in the playoffs in the Super Bowl, he would have more rings than Aaron. He'd have a better playoff percentage than Aaron. He would be better late than Aaron, better early than Aaron. As a former number one pick, there's a real large ena you take Matt Stafford.

According to Diana Russini, the Rams are meeting with Matt Stafford at their facility in person today regarding the future. So the Raiders and the Giants, and I think the Raiders are in play here have discussed a two year contract that includes ninety to one hundred million guaranteed, and a decision is expected soon. So I was thinking about this. I think if it's only two years and the Raiders are not giving you a third, then I would stay with the Rams and take less. The Rams can get you to seventy five eighty eighty five, I would take that over one hundred on a two year deal. If they're both offering two years, Raiders go to a third year forty five million, no state tax, I'd probably consider that. But it's really interesting, and what I'm about to say won't. You'll think it's ridiculous initially, but just think about the Rams are not far off from winning a Super Bowl. They're really close. They had they were driving to beat Philly in a snowstorm, and that defense got better every other week. And they're all coming back and they're super talented. So you're not going to score a lot of points on the Rams going forward. If they get a corner in the draft of the first pick or second, they don't have a hole. That defense is good everywhere and young and cheap. If Matt Stafford stays and wins a second Super Bowl. And I know legacies are all about ego, but if you put fifteen twenty twenty five years into being a politician, a talk show host, a quarterback, a landscaper, legacies matter. You want to be remembered fondly, not just as a husband and as a dad, but what did you do professionally in your community? If he wins a second Super Bowl, that's the same as Elway, Peyton, Manning and Big Ben. But it's more than Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young and and I've said this for years, Matt Stafford was better in high school than Aaron Rodgers, much better in college, better his first four years in the NFL, and much better now in his last three. Now, there were ten years where he was in dysfunctional Detroit and put up a lot of stats, but didn't get much to the playoffs and do much. And meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers was in Green Bay, highly functional, great draft and developed organization, good coaching, and had a better middle of ten years. But if you had to put Aaron in Detroit and Matt in Green Bay, I think he has more than one ring. But my take is legacy matters. If Stafford wins a second Super Bowl, that means he would go four to zero in the playoffs in the Super Bowl, he would have more rings than Aaron. He'd have a better playoff percentage than Aaron. He would be better late than Aaron, better early than Aaron. As a former number one pick, there's a real large ena you take Matt Stafford.

More super bowls.

More super bowls.

I mean super bowls alone are going to get Eli Manning eventually into the Hall of Fame. And he was an average regular season quarterback. How a movie ends and how a quarterback's career ends absolutely shapes how we think of you. When Brady went to Tampa in one fifty percent of you watching and listening for years, and I saw it on Twitter. It's a system quarterback.

I mean super bowls alone are going to get Eli Manning eventually into the Hall of Fame. And he was an average regular season quarterback. How a movie ends and how a quarterback's career ends absolutely shapes how we think of you. When Brady went to Tampa in one fifty percent of you watching and listening for years, and I saw it on Twitter. It's a system quarterback.

He left New England.

He left New England.

One Belichick regressed, Brady is unquestionably the goat. Beat Mahomes last two times they played. He is head and shoulders above the crowd. John Elway never forget Lway, Ozero and three and super bowls got hammered. John can't win the big game. Last two years, two super Bowl wins with Terrell Davis the running back, and we viewed him number two all time to Joe Montange. Peyton Manning goes to Denver. Let's be honest. He goes to Denver. His reputation was he's not good in big games. One Super Bowl, Brady owns him. All of a sudden, he beat Brady in a playoff game or two wins in Denver. And now that Brady Manning thing is like, oh eh, Peyton kind of got the best of him last couple of years. If Matt Stafford stays, no, you're not getting a ring with Las Vegas. You're not getting a ring with the Giants, it makes those franchises respectable and probably winning franchises very quickly. Matt Stafford has a chance to get to another level as many Super Bowls as l Way and Peyton Manning in that class, and more than far of an Aaron Rodgers. And so to me, when you put I mean, think about when Matt Stafford started playing football six years old, seven years old. He's thirty eight years old. He has given thirty years of his life to football. Number one high school player, number one pick out of Georgia, had to endure a lot of nonsense in Detroit. The idea that if he could get another Super Bowl in the next two years with the Rams and.

One Belichick regressed, Brady is unquestionably the goat. Beat Mahomes last two times they played. He is head and shoulders above the crowd. John Elway never forget Lway, Ozero and three and super bowls got hammered. John can't win the big game. Last two years, two super Bowl wins with Terrell Davis the running back, and we viewed him number two all time to Joe Montange. Peyton Manning goes to Denver. Let's be honest. He goes to Denver. His reputation was he's not good in big games. One Super Bowl, Brady owns him. All of a sudden, he beat Brady in a playoff game or two wins in Denver. And now that Brady Manning thing is like, oh eh, Peyton kind of got the best of him last couple of years. If Matt Stafford stays, no, you're not getting a ring with Las Vegas. You're not getting a ring with the Giants, it makes those franchises respectable and probably winning franchises very quickly. Matt Stafford has a chance to get to another level as many Super Bowls as l Way and Peyton Manning in that class, and more than far of an Aaron Rodgers. And so to me, when you put I mean, think about when Matt Stafford started playing football six years old, seven years old. He's thirty eight years old. He has given thirty years of his life to football. Number one high school player, number one pick out of Georgia, had to endure a lot of nonsense in Detroit. The idea that if he could get another Super Bowl in the next two years with the Rams and.

People, a lot of people would look.

People, a lot of people would look.

At him and there's an argument he's better than Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, maybe farv. That'd be hard for me to walk away from. I know, it's just legacy, and a lot of people think that's vanity. I don't care if you're a mailman, a quarterback, a politician, a landscaper, a lawyer.

At him and there's an argument he's better than Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, maybe farv. That'd be hard for me to walk away from. I know, it's just legacy, and a lot of people think that's vanity. I don't care if you're a mailman, a quarterback, a politician, a landscaper, a lawyer.

It matters. You want to be remembered for committing to something, and.

It matters. You want to be remembered for committing to something, and.

When you've been doing it at a high level like Stafford, you get a wizard away for money in Vegas. That'd be hard for me. So if the Raiders are not going to give you three years, I don't care if.

When you've been doing it at a high level like Stafford, you get a wizard away for money in Vegas. That'd be hard for me. So if the Raiders are not going to give you three years, I don't care if.

It's more money.

It's more money.

I think the legacy matters too much to a guy that's totally been committed to football, sits in the pocket till the end, takes more shots than almost anybody in the league. I mean, that's the thing about Stafford and Aaron. Aaron don't want to get hit anymore. I guess I get it. Brady didn't want to get in a hit anymore. Stafford sits there and gets hammered every Sunday. Some part of him is always banged up or bleeding. He has committed totally of this career. Be hard to walk away if I don't get extra years and an extra fifty to seventy million bucks. All right, j Mac Steph Curry put on a little.

I think the legacy matters too much to a guy that's totally been committed to football, sits in the pocket till the end, takes more shots than almost anybody in the league. I mean, that's the thing about Stafford and Aaron. Aaron don't want to get hit anymore. I guess I get it. Brady didn't want to get in a hit anymore. Stafford sits there and gets hammered every Sunday. Some part of him is always banged up or bleeding. He has committed totally of this career. Be hard to walk away if I don't get extra years and an extra fifty to seventy million bucks. All right, j Mac Steph Curry put on a little.

Clinic last night. He was okay, fifty six, not bad at all.

Clinic last night. He was okay, fifty six, not bad at all.

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Tell your friends you want to watch the next twenty minutes tarn Armstead twelve years in the NFL, A five time Pro bowler, started with the Saints, went to the Dolphins. One of the great multi left tackles, pass blocking, run blocking in the NFL for a long time. Could play still available. We'll get into that in a second. This guy's full of personality that, you know what's always interesting. I'm fascinated by this. How in the hell did you end up being overlooked by SEC teams? It didn't take you very long to be good in the NFL. You went to Arkansas Pine Bluff. I know where Arkansas is. I don't know where the pine or the bluff is at. Why were you a late bloomer?

Tell your friends you want to watch the next twenty minutes tarn Armstead twelve years in the NFL, A five time Pro bowler, started with the Saints, went to the Dolphins. One of the great multi left tackles, pass blocking, run blocking in the NFL for a long time. Could play still available. We'll get into that in a second. This guy's full of personality that, you know what's always interesting. I'm fascinated by this. How in the hell did you end up being overlooked by SEC teams? It didn't take you very long to be good in the NFL. You went to Arkansas Pine Bluff. I know where Arkansas is. I don't know where the pine or the bluff is at. Why were you a late bloomer?

I think my area was just overlooked.

I think my area was just overlooked.

My high school was behind the times as far as exposure, putting the eyes on guys and getting the tape to where it was available. You know, I was still VHS, very very a lot of static.

My high school was behind the times as far as exposure, putting the eyes on guys and getting the tape to where it was available. You know, I was still VHS, very very a lot of static.

Look Josh Allen, same thing. Oh really, Joan, I mean literally didn't get a single college offer.

Look Josh Allen, same thing. Oh really, Joan, I mean literally didn't get a single college offer.

Oh wow?

Oh wow?

Played out in the sticks in Northern Calling.

Played out in the sticks in Northern Calling.

For same situation.

For same situation.

Yeah, so if you were watching my film, you would have to kind of figure out which of those dots were me and we liked that guy, and that it didn't happen for me.

Yeah, so if you were watching my film, you would have to kind of figure out which of those dots were me and we liked that guy, and that it didn't happen for me.

Did you know did you go to the combine?

Did you know did you go to the combine?

I did?

I did?

Okay, When did you know.

Okay, When did you know.

I'm better than that guy? I'm better than that guy? Like, when did you know I'm gonna play in this league?

I'm better than that guy? I'm better than that guy? Like, when did you know I'm gonna play in this league?

I wouldn't say the combine was that situation for me. Comby helped me get more odds and more exposure. I had broke the forty yard dash record for the offense ave lineman ran four sixty five to two, So look at that. Yeah, So that just helped me get my name out and got more people to watch my film. My college film had some static too, but it was more DVD. It wasn't VHS no more. So it's hard to see that too. But Combin helped me tremendously. But as far as like which guy that I felt like I could play against for.

I wouldn't say the combine was that situation for me. Comby helped me get more odds and more exposure. I had broke the forty yard dash record for the offense ave lineman ran four sixty five to two, So look at that. Yeah, So that just helped me get my name out and got more people to watch my film. My college film had some static too, but it was more DVD. It wasn't VHS no more. So it's hard to see that too. But Combin helped me tremendously. But as far as like which guy that I felt like I could play against for.

I'm better than never really been my thing.

I'm better than never really been my thing.

I went to the East West Shrine game and then got invited to the Senior Ball the next week. So those two weeks were probably the most revealing for me as far as level of talent, because I kept hearing that through the process your a level of talent that you played against is going to be different than the SEC guys.

I went to the East West Shrine game and then got invited to the Senior Ball the next week. So those two weeks were probably the most revealing for me as far as level of talent, because I kept hearing that through the process your a level of talent that you played against is going to be different than the SEC guys.

So first one on one, I'll tell you a quick story.

So first one on one, I'll tell you a quick story.

First one on one at the senior ball I got there late a lineup. It's a d M from Georgia. I don't remember his name, and I'm like, this is my moment. I jumped at him through his ass five yards and jumped on them everything like I blacked out And that was my right then, and there was my moment of you can do this, you can play at this level.

First one on one at the senior ball I got there late a lineup. It's a d M from Georgia. I don't remember his name, and I'm like, this is my moment. I jumped at him through his ass five yards and jumped on them everything like I blacked out And that was my right then, and there was my moment of you can do this, you can play at this level.

I love stories like that.

I love stories like that.

I love that stuff.

I love that stuff.

The you know, it's funny. We were talking during the break. I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton facetiming last night in Indy and you played for him for years and he is very blunt for sure. He and Russell Wilson. Russell's mister optimism, Shawn's mister authentic honesty.

The you know, it's funny. We were talking during the break. I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton facetiming last night in Indy and you played for him for years and he is very blunt for sure. He and Russell Wilson. Russell's mister optimism, Shawn's mister authentic honesty.

Like it clashed. Yeah, you didn't like Seawn early.

Like it clashed. Yeah, you didn't like Seawn early.

I didn't.

I didn't.

I didn't like him at all my first three four years, but I appreciated him like I appreciated his coaching style. He's very direct, he was very aggressive, but he wasn't personable at all, like I couldn't say nothing to him, couldn't make a suggestion or opinion or anything.

I didn't like him at all my first three four years, but I appreciated him like I appreciated his coaching style. He's very direct, he was very aggressive, but he wasn't personable at all, like I couldn't say nothing to him, couldn't make a suggestion or opinion or anything.

Only time he talked to you was if you messed up. That was it.

Only time he talked to you was if you messed up. That was it.

Like he was not a pat on the back guy at all. So as a young player coming from Arkansas pinm Bluff.

Like he was not a pat on the back guy at all. So as a young player coming from Arkansas pinm Bluff.

I was looking for a little you know what I mean, a little something.

I was looking for a little you know what I mean, a little something.

But everything that he taught me in those first four years, it stuck with me, and it taught me what's important doing your job, execution, play after play, a game after game, and I couldn't I can't thank the man enough. And then later on my last five years together, we became best friends and I love him to death that the stories that he has and the moments that we've shared together.

But everything that he taught me in those first four years, it stuck with me, and it taught me what's important doing your job, execution, play after play, a game after game, and I couldn't I can't thank the man enough. And then later on my last five years together, we became best friends and I love him to death that the stories that he has and the moments that we've shared together.

He went the extra mile for me.

He went the extra mile for me.

Twenty twenty, during COVID, my brother passed away and we couldn't travel, so, you know, it was looking like I wouldn't be able to go to the funeral.

Twenty twenty, during COVID, my brother passed away and we couldn't travel, so, you know, it was looking like I wouldn't be able to go to the funeral.

And I'm like, I'm driving if that's the case. It's middle of the week.

And I'm like, I'm driving if that's the case. It's middle of the week.

And Sean called me to his office and he's like, missus Benson. I told her the situation. We're taking her plane. We're going to the funeral. I'm like, what do you mean way, He's like, I'm coming with you. We're going to the And he came up to my hometown, me and him, Dan Rochark, he just signed with the Bears as the O line Coach album Kamara and Latavia's Murray, and we all went to the funeral together and Sean was amongst the people and he helped my family, like genuinely had people laughing and smiling at really the toughest time of our lives.

And Sean called me to his office and he's like, missus Benson. I told her the situation. We're taking her plane. We're going to the funeral. I'm like, what do you mean way, He's like, I'm coming with you. We're going to the And he came up to my hometown, me and him, Dan Rochark, he just signed with the Bears as the O line Coach album Kamara and Latavia's Murray, and we all went to the funeral together and Sean was amongst the people and he helped my family, like genuinely had people laughing and smiling at really the toughest time of our lives.

So forever, forever grateful for that man.

So forever, forever grateful for that man.

By the way, the somebody said on the staff, they said, hey, tarn is going to give you crap about Steph Curry who dropped fifty six last night. What are you going to say to me? I was very complimentary today have Steph Curry?

By the way, the somebody said on the staff, they said, hey, tarn is going to give you crap about Steph Curry who dropped fifty six last night. What are you going to say to me? I was very complimentary today have Steph Curry?

Yeah?

Yeah?

No, So now that you mentioned it, and it's about eight years ago that you said this, eight years Yeah, I've been holding on to it that I've been waiting for you.

No, So now that you mentioned it, and it's about eight years ago that you said this, eight years Yeah, I've been holding on to it that I've been waiting for you.

Yeah, so eight years.

Yeah, so eight years.

I honestly don't even remember what you said. I just know at the moment I didn't like it, didn't like it one bit. What I said it was he is he can he winning championship you know by somelfing he does he need Swy and Z to do it. It was it was something crazy.

I honestly don't even remember what you said. I just know at the moment I didn't like it, didn't like it one bit. What I said it was he is he can he winning championship you know by somelfing he does he need Swy and Z to do it. It was it was something crazy.

Just just outraged, and it just bothered you.

Just just outraged, and it just bothered you.

It bothered me so bad.

It bothered me so bad.

But you know what It's funny about Steph Curry. He goes to Davidson so none of us watch him small school. You and him have something in common. He has ankle issues, ankle issues. He's not very good defensively at all.

But you know what It's funny about Steph Curry. He goes to Davidson so none of us watch him small school. You and him have something in common. He has ankle issues, ankle issues. He's not very good defensively at all.

My ankle. My ankle is pretty good. I heard everything else but ankles were good.

My ankle. My ankle is pretty good. I heard everything else but ankles were good.

But he was he had to develop into something.

But he was he had to develop into something.

Yeah, and there was there were talk they were going to keep Monte Ellis and and move him like there that was Jerry west Is like, we're not doing that. I think I think it was Jerry West or somebody in the organization. And the truth is is that I do think the jet fuel to players like you and Curry. And I've said this about this year's quarterback draft. They're all getting crushed.

Yeah, and there was there were talk they were going to keep Monte Ellis and and move him like there that was Jerry west Is like, we're not doing that. I think I think it was Jerry West or somebody in the organization. And the truth is is that I do think the jet fuel to players like you and Curry. And I've said this about this year's quarterback draft. They're all getting crushed.

This is all That's a fact.

This is all That's a fact.

And what makes Curry so great is that he just he just always works at his craft. And I think sometimes and I see this a little with Luca. Luca was so good at sixteen beating European men. He's still not in good shape. Like what the harder things are to attain, the more it fuels you for the rest of your life. Steph Curry will be competitive golfing at seventy four because of Davidson.

And what makes Curry so great is that he just he just always works at his craft. And I think sometimes and I see this a little with Luca. Luca was so good at sixteen beating European men. He's still not in good shape. Like what the harder things are to attain, the more it fuels you for the rest of your life. Steph Curry will be competitive golfing at seventy four because of Davidson.

And going to your life. The fact you were doubted even today.

And going to your life. The fact you were doubted even today.

Does it tick you because you were I think you were great, top four, third best, top three tackle last year? Does it still drive you crazy? Do you feel disrespected by that?

Does it tick you because you were I think you were great, top four, third best, top three tackle last year? Does it still drive you crazy? Do you feel disrespected by that?

I do?

I do?

I do?

I do?

And that to your point, it that's what drew me to Steph Curry. Like to be. To become a fan of Steph Curry is all the noise.

And that to your point, it that's what drew me to Steph Curry. Like to be. To become a fan of Steph Curry is all the noise.

And for him to use it as fuel and to work like to work, to work, to work to become what he has become. I took the same approach. I had to work over time to go from Arkansas pinem Bluff and be a small school, got underachiever, all of those things whatever to be a five time pro bowler, all pro.

And for him to use it as fuel and to work like to work, to work, to work to become what he has become. I took the same approach. I had to work over time to go from Arkansas pinem Bluff and be a small school, got underachiever, all of those things whatever to be a five time pro bowler, all pro.

You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.

And it's still like you say, to this day, was third rate tackle this year? Whatever whose grays or metrics, But I just always got to prove myself and I'm okay with that, because I love the grind, I love the work, I love getting better, I love the progression.

And it's still like you say, to this day, was third rate tackle this year? Whatever whose grays or metrics, But I just always got to prove myself and I'm okay with that, because I love the grind, I love the work, I love getting better, I love the progression.

It's just a part of who I am.

It's just a part of who I am.

So I've said this before.

So I've said this before.

NFL is obviously rewarding financially offensive players over defensive players. But I've said there's a handful of defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald. They're just different facts. Miles Garrett is pretty close to that, and my argument is if you give him a winning environment, he'll play even better. Like Lebron looks better now that Luke's there, for sure. I mean, Staff's playing better, Jimmy Butler's there. It's like they're showing up and like, okay, everybody's watching my games.

NFL is obviously rewarding financially offensive players over defensive players. But I've said there's a handful of defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald. They're just different facts. Miles Garrett is pretty close to that, and my argument is if you give him a winning environment, he'll play even better. Like Lebron looks better now that Luke's there, for sure. I mean, Staff's playing better, Jimmy Butler's there. It's like they're showing up and like, okay, everybody's watching my games.

Now.

Now.

How many times have you faced Miles Garrett and physically he should have more body fat at that size. Is he a top matchup even for you?

How many times have you faced Miles Garrett and physically he should have more body fat at that size. Is he a top matchup even for you?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah, I've played him three times. I would say I think we played the first time in twenty eighteen. That is a top three one on one old line versity line battle. I went and watched it again probably two months ago. It's a it's a it's a dogfight.

Yeah, I've played him three times. I would say I think we played the first time in twenty eighteen. That is a top three one on one old line versity line battle. I went and watched it again probably two months ago. It's a it's a it's a dogfight.

I won. I did it I'm gonna just put that out. I won.

I won. I did it I'm gonna just put that out. I won.

But if you go back and watch that game, I got no help, He got no help. He lined up here, I line up here, and we went at it for the entire game twenty eighteen.

But if you go back and watch that game, I got no help, He got no help. He lined up here, I line up here, and we went at it for the entire game twenty eighteen.

Go watch that.

Go watch that.

So the next day when you wake up, be honest with me, right, is it hard to get out of bed when you play somebody at that long?

So the next day when you wake up, be honest with me, right, is it hard to get out of bed when you play somebody at that long?

For sure?

For sure?

For sure that you get a physical dog fight like that, somebody that's really it's like a train wreck.

For sure that you get a physical dog fight like that, somebody that's really it's like a train wreck.

For sure. It is.

For sure. It is.

You feel every part of it, your neck, back, shoulders, for sure, no question about it.

You feel every part of it, your neck, back, shoulders, for sure, no question about it.

By the way, Matt Stafford just reached an agreement with the Rams. Oh wow, so we got the Raiders came after him. But it was interesting. According to Diana Russini, the Raiders only offer two years, which is what the Rams are offering. So the trade speculation talk is done. The first significant offseason quarterback Domino has fallen. The Rams and Stafford, according to Adam Schefter, have reached an agreement on a restructured deal. My guess is two years. I'm not sure about the money. Stafford's pretty unique, you know what I always appreciated about Stafford A lot of these older quarterbacks don't want to get hit.

By the way, Matt Stafford just reached an agreement with the Rams. Oh wow, so we got the Raiders came after him. But it was interesting. According to Diana Russini, the Raiders only offer two years, which is what the Rams are offering. So the trade speculation talk is done. The first significant offseason quarterback Domino has fallen. The Rams and Stafford, according to Adam Schefter, have reached an agreement on a restructured deal. My guess is two years. I'm not sure about the money. Stafford's pretty unique, you know what I always appreciated about Stafford A lot of these older quarterbacks don't want to get hit.

Matt will sit in.

Matt will sit in.

There fearless to the last half second, fearless.

There fearless to the last half second, fearless.

You've hit him a few times. I mean you've hit him.

You've hit him a few times. I mean you've hit him.

You've been in games against Stafford are there is there a secret code the quarterbacks Like Breeze was a smaller quarterback as he got older, tell me what it's like to protect like Tua, we got concussions. He don't want to get You don't want to get hit. Do you feel a responsibility because of Tua's concussions? Does that add pressure to you?

You've been in games against Stafford are there is there a secret code the quarterbacks Like Breeze was a smaller quarterback as he got older, tell me what it's like to protect like Tua, we got concussions. He don't want to get You don't want to get hit. Do you feel a responsibility because of Tua's concussions? Does that add pressure to you?

It's pressure playing that for position anyway, being being the front line, Like I had two smaller quarters.

It's pressure playing that for position anyway, being being the front line, Like I had two smaller quarters.

I've had two smaller quarterbacks my career, Drew Brees and Tua.

I've had two smaller quarterbacks my career, Drew Brees and Tua.

Thos been your guys guy. By the way, Tua Breeze is TOAs com.

Thos been your guys guy. By the way, Tua Breeze is TOAs com.

For sure, for sure, and for a good reason too. It is not It is not for nothing. He's he is that from that claw. So the stressful part and it's real life stress, Like it's anxiety that goes on in past protection.

For sure, for sure, and for a good reason too. It is not It is not for nothing. He's he is that from that claw. So the stressful part and it's real life stress, Like it's anxiety that goes on in past protection.

That's like the worst thing in the world is to get your quarterback hit.

That's like the worst thing in the world is to get your quarterback hit.

To me, so if I give up a sack like, no matter how played for the rest of the game, it doesn't matter.

To me, so if I give up a sack like, no matter how played for the rest of the game, it doesn't matter.

My day is ruined. It's ruined. I get the quarterback hit.

My day is ruined. It's ruined. I get the quarterback hit.

Only gave up three last year.

Only gave up three last year.

I don't think two of those are on me, So we got to go back and watch the film. Yeah, that's a lot of factors goes into that.

I don't think two of those are on me, So we got to go back and watch the film. Yeah, that's a lot of factors goes into that.

Is there a guy in the league that gave you more trouble and he wasn't a high draft pick?

Is there a guy in the league that gave you more trouble and he wasn't a high draft pick?

Yeah, you know, we've always said.

Yeah, you know, we've always said.

This, There are guys in the NBA they have maybe a weird body or whatever. But if you ask players are like, I mean, I remember Dominique Wilkins telling me, he goes, I love playing Mr. I did not sleep playing Bernard King. Bernard could just say I'm scoring fifty four tonight, he goes.

This, There are guys in the NBA they have maybe a weird body or whatever. But if you ask players are like, I mean, I remember Dominique Wilkins telling me, he goes, I love playing Mr. I did not sleep playing Bernard King. Bernard could just say I'm scoring fifty four tonight, he goes.

I couldn't stop him. He goes, I hated playing it.

I couldn't stop him. He goes, I hated playing it.

Is there a guy in the league that you're like because Max Crosby talks a lot of trash he does, and he's a fourth I think he's a fourth rounder. Is there a guy in the league that you maybe don't sleep quite as well the night before?

Is there a guy in the league that you're like because Max Crosby talks a lot of trash he does, and he's a fourth I think he's a fourth rounder. Is there a guy in the league that you maybe don't sleep quite as well the night before?

No, I would say I feel the same way as as Dominique like, I would rather block Miles Garrett and Max Crosby.

No, I would say I feel the same way as as Dominique like, I would rather block Miles Garrett and Max Crosby.

Wow, I would, I will. It's the it's the guy that just got elevated off practice squad. I'm terrified of him. I'm scared to death. He is. He's in his stands, he got his his leg is shaken.

Wow, I would, I will. It's the it's the guy that just got elevated off practice squad. I'm terrified of him. I'm scared to death. He is. He's in his stands, he got his his leg is shaken.

God damn, he's about to rush with everything in his being intimidating.

God damn, he's about to rush with everything in his being intimidating.

No, No, the scouts, who you talk?

No, No, the scouts, who you talk?

Who's the tactic squad guy that's that just got elevated this week.

Who's the tactic squad guy that's that just got elevated this week.

They told him on wins that hey, you're gonna play this week.

They told him on wins that hey, you're gonna play this week.

You might not get me terrified.

You might not get me terrified.

I'm fearful. Yeah, I don't want to see him. Give me Max, give me Miles Garrett. Yeah, with that practice squad, I got it.

I'm fearful. Yeah, I don't want to see him. Give me Max, give me Miles Garrett. Yeah, with that practice squad, I got it.

Just called up. I don't want no smokers, young man.

Just called up. I don't want no smokers, young man.

He's got nothing but energy.

He's got nothing but energy.

Nothing but energy.

Nothing but energy.

He's gonna run through my face mask over and over and I throw him to the ground. But I'm like supposed to. So it's like, you know what I mean, he gonna get up and do it again. Would I want to see him?

He's gonna run through my face mask over and over and I throw him to the ground. But I'm like supposed to. So it's like, you know what I mean, he gonna get up and do it again. Would I want to see him?

You've made your money, you can retire today, but you play outside of quarterback, the most important position in the sport. If a good team called you up and said, dude, two years would you would you go play?

You've made your money, you can retire today, but you play outside of quarterback, the most important position in the sport. If a good team called you up and said, dude, two years would you would you go play?

I'm on a good team, so no, so you wouldn't you were not gonna play. I'm on a good team already know. But I mean, so nobody else can.

I'm on a good team, so no, so you wouldn't you were not gonna play. I'm on a good team already know. But I mean, so nobody else can.

Call me you would you? This is it?

Call me you would you? This is it?

I'm a yeah, Dolphins only.

I'm a yeah, Dolphins only.

Yeah, and that's it.

Yeah, and that's it.

That's it.

That's it.

But you're you're you're kind of pausing.

But you're you're you're kind of pausing.

I'm not. I think it's natural pauses in a conversation. You know what I mean?

I'm not. I think it's natural pauses in a conversation. You know what I mean?

That's money? So what do you do now? You're how old are you? Thirty? Okay, you got you got some money.

That's money? So what do you do now? You're how old are you? Thirty? Okay, you got you got some money.

You've had a career.

You've had a career.

Yeah, what do you do? What is an Can most people retire? I'm sixty and still working. The average person great man sixty five, sixty six, you're thirty three and can wrap it up? What do you do?

Yeah, what do you do? What is an Can most people retire? I'm sixty and still working. The average person great man sixty five, sixty six, you're thirty three and can wrap it up? What do you do?

I weigh my options, right.

I weigh my options, right.

I feel like being in the league for so long, having a successful career and done and I've done well financially, it gives me cushion in room to make a decision like this and to see if I want to continue to go out and compete in pursuit of a championship. That's the goal, like that honestly, honestly speaking, that is that's the goal. So there's a lot of factors that goes into that. A lot of health for sure. But then kids, my kids getting older, my twin girls about to be teenagers. Pray for me please, So those type of things are factors for sure.

I feel like being in the league for so long, having a successful career and done and I've done well financially, it gives me cushion in room to make a decision like this and to see if I want to continue to go out and compete in pursuit of a championship. That's the goal, like that honestly, honestly speaking, that is that's the goal. So there's a lot of factors that goes into that. A lot of health for sure. But then kids, my kids getting older, my twin girls about to be teenagers. Pray for me please, So those type of things are factors for sure.

The Dolphins have been incredible and Grace will allow me this time. I know you've seen the contract restructure that we we just came to. It worked well for all parties.

The Dolphins have been incredible and Grace will allow me this time. I know you've seen the contract restructure that we we just came to. It worked well for all parties.

It allowed me a little bit more time to think and allowed them to do whatever they need to do necessary to improve the tea.

It allowed me a little bit more time to think and allowed them to do whatever they need to do necessary to improve the tea.

It made you an offer the Dolphins.

It made you an offer the Dolphins.

Have you said structure funny? Yeah, yeah, we restructure. Yeah, you haven't signed it, not physically.

Have you said structure funny? Yeah, yeah, we restructure. Yeah, you haven't signed it, not physically.

Are you going to Yeah? Again, you're pausing. What does that mean?

Are you going to Yeah? Again, you're pausing. What does that mean?

You're pausing when I asked you, are you going to sign the contract?

You're pausing when I asked you, are you going to sign the contract?

What the restructure is? It's like I took my projected salary down to minimum.

What the restructure is? It's like I took my projected salary down to minimum.

Okay, So it allows the Dolphins to do with the new space cap space to do.

Okay, So it allows the Dolphins to do with the new space cap space to do.

Whatever they need to do to improve the team.

Whatever they need to do to improve the team.

It allows me the time to make a decision whether I want to keep planning or not. So if I'll decide, hey we're doing this, I'm locking in, let's go, then we have another conversation.

It allows me the time to make a decision whether I want to keep planning or not. So if I'll decide, hey we're doing this, I'm locking in, let's go, then we have another conversation.

Okay, Matt Stafford broke news. You could do it right after I could.

Okay, Matt Stafford broke news. You could do it right after I could.

I want to let Matt have his day? Would I be to take his shine? And then they only talking about me today? You know? All right?

I want to let Matt have his day? Would I be to take his shine? And then they only talking about me today? You know? All right?

You know you've you've had Sean Payton's intensity as a coach, Dan Campbell's almost he's a player, and now you've got this wizard this like m I t Mike McDaniel. Be honest about Mike McDaniel. First time you saw him, did you say he's gonna stand in front of us?

You know you've you've had Sean Payton's intensity as a coach, Dan Campbell's almost he's a player, and now you've got this wizard this like m I t Mike McDaniel. Be honest about Mike McDaniel. First time you saw him, did you say he's gonna stand in front of us?

He's a little bit different?

He's a little bit different?

Right? No, not at all, not at all.

Right? No, not at all, not at all.

My first time I saw him was I was on a visit, so it was it was one on one and he just came in.

My first time I saw him was I was on a visit, so it was it was one on one and he just came in.

He came in with energy. Man, he was he was excited.

He came in with energy. Man, he was he was excited.

He had just got there three or four days before, you know what I mean, So he didn't know where his pans.

He had just got there three or four days before, you know what I mean, So he didn't know where his pans.

And yeah, he is, for sure, he's he's different.

And yeah, he is, for sure, he's he's different.

He's different, but that's okay because he's it's genuinely him and.

He's different, but that's okay because he's it's genuinely him and.

That's what I appreciate is not a front, is not an act.

That's what I appreciate is not a front, is not an act.

It's it's him, and you spend time with him, you'll see that and you have a d for appreciation for him.

It's it's him, and you spend time with him, you'll see that and you have a d for appreciation for him.

Tarron Armstead, you know you're always welcome.

Tarron Armstead, you know you're always welcome.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate it.

You can always come by the show.

You can always come by the show.

You come to my show too. I don't have one yet, but one day when I do. You let me tell you that.

You come to my show too. I don't have one yet, but one day when I do. You let me tell you that.

Free to come through.

Free to come through.

It's a dead end career. There's no reason to do this.

It's a dead end career. There's no reason to do this.

You hang out with your beautiful twin daughters. Are they athletes?

You hang out with your beautiful twin daughters. Are they athletes?

What are they? Yeah? Basketball players?

What are they? Yeah? Basketball players?

Best sixth grade team in the country, going AU Nationals again.

Best sixth grade team in the country, going AU Nationals again.

Yeah, back to back, we're doing it.

Yeah, back to back, we're doing it.

What do you weigh right now? By the way, that's personal.

What do you weigh right now? By the way, that's personal.

What do you weigh about two eighty five?

What do you weigh about two eighty five?

What do you play at to ninety eight three hundred? That's a light tackle for you to be that good at that.

What do you play at to ninety eight three hundred? That's a light tackle for you to be that good at that.

Weight, appreciate it strong.

Weight, appreciate it strong.

What do you This is a weird question. If I said max reps bench, what do you bench? This is it's a weird question.

What do you This is a weird question. If I said max reps bench, what do you bench? This is it's a weird question.

What's bench?

What's bench?

Huh?

Huh?

I'm not benching no more. You don't bench, no, not max rep.

I'm not benching no more. You don't bench, no, not max rep.

No, No, You're just doing light stuff, trying to keep tone.

No, No, You're just doing light stuff, trying to keep tone.

Yeah, I get what I need to get in a lot of pilates and stuff like that.

Yeah, I get what I need to get in a lot of pilates and stuff like that.

Really about that, course, Dan, how about that?

Really about that, course, Dan, how about that?

Yeah, that's when I grab him. Yeah, no getting away.

Yeah, that's when I grab him. Yeah, no getting away.

Okay, Matt Stafford is signed with the Rams. We'll say it again. Uh, congrass, Yeah, that's that's so.

Okay, Matt Stafford is signed with the Rams. We'll say it again. Uh, congrass, Yeah, that's that's so.

We said.

We said.

We thought the Raiders were in play, but in the end the Rams wanted that first Raiders pick and probably a second, and the Raiders said that's a little bit too much. So Stafford whose legacy again, if you give him a second super Bowl, that's l way, That's Peyton Manning, that's big Ben. Don't forget how a quarterback's career ends goes a long way in forming that legacy. Right now, Stafford's considered great. He becomes an all time great with a second Super Bowl, and the Rams are in that short little window where they could do it.

We thought the Raiders were in play, but in the end the Rams wanted that first Raiders pick and probably a second, and the Raiders said that's a little bit too much. So Stafford whose legacy again, if you give him a second super Bowl, that's l way, That's Peyton Manning, that's big Ben. Don't forget how a quarterback's career ends goes a long way in forming that legacy. Right now, Stafford's considered great. He becomes an all time great with a second Super Bowl, and the Rams are in that short little window where they could do it.

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All Right, once again, the breaking news happened thirty twenty five minutes ago. Matt Stafford staying with the Rams new contract couple years. I guess one hundred million guaranteed two years. J Max says a little tastier than that. I do not know if you're the New York Giants or reportedly now they will shift their attention to Aaron Rodgers.

All Right, once again, the breaking news happened thirty twenty five minutes ago. Matt Stafford staying with the Rams new contract couple years. I guess one hundred million guaranteed two years. J Max says a little tastier than that. I do not know if you're the New York Giants or reportedly now they will shift their attention to Aaron Rodgers.

Now.

Now.

My take is I got him with the Rams, and I got Aaron Rodgers.

My take is I got him with the Rams, and I got Aaron Rodgers.

With the Jets. Like those two I get.

With the Jets. Like those two I get.

I'm not sure if he wants to go to another franchise that can't get attacked together. That is an ugly way to end it for Aaron Rodgers. I think I would call it a career if the Giants is the only thing I had.

I'm not sure if he wants to go to another franchise that can't get attacked together. That is an ugly way to end it for Aaron Rodgers. I think I would call it a career if the Giants is the only thing I had.

I remember that Dabel historically likes mobile quarterbacks. Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Rogers is at mobile. I don't think he fits what the Giants really want to do. Can you turn him into a pocket passer when you can't protect the quarterback? Their offensive line is one of the worst in league. Thomas was good, but other than.

I remember that Dabel historically likes mobile quarterbacks. Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Rogers is at mobile. I don't think he fits what the Giants really want to do. Can you turn him into a pocket passer when you can't protect the quarterback? Their offensive line is one of the worst in league. Thomas was good, but other than.

That and very shaky. I think the Raiders kind of become interesting here.

That and very shaky. I think the Raiders kind of become interesting here.

Would he work with the Raiders?

Would he work with the Raiders?

Like, Yeah, they don't want Davonte Adams back, do they so that's kind of a weir.

Like, Yeah, they don't want Davonte Adams back, do they so that's kind of a weir.

That would be awkward, and maybe Devanta Adams kind of poisoned the Raiders for Rogers knowing what's going on in the organization, although some things have changed obviously, right.

That would be awkward, and maybe Devanta Adams kind of poisoned the Raiders for Rogers knowing what's going on in the organization, although some things have changed obviously, right.

I don't.

I don't.

I just don't.

I just don't.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, I just got my first taste the last two years of a dysfunctional operation. I want to I want to go to one that's even worse. I mean, at least the Jets have a roster that's redeemable. The Jets have some players, and Aaron played well down the stretch, even the left tackle, who I like a lot for the Giants. He's had health issues. Yeah he gets better, Thomas gets banged up.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, I just got my first taste the last two years of a dysfunctional operation. I want to I want to go to one that's even worse. I mean, at least the Jets have a roster that's redeemable. The Jets have some players, and Aaron played well down the stretch, even the left tackle, who I like a lot for the Giants. He's had health issues. Yeah he gets better, Thomas gets banged up.

But Pittsburgh Steelers in Aaron rodgersics.

But Pittsburgh Steelers in Aaron rodgersics.

Doesn't fit at all at all. Culturally, it just doesn't work at all. They can't get their O line right. It's all about defense, Prima Donna, wide receiver stuff like. I don't think Pittsburgh and Aaron fit at all.

Doesn't fit at all at all. Culturally, it just doesn't work at all. They can't get their O line right. It's all about defense, Prima Donna, wide receiver stuff like. I don't think Pittsburgh and Aaron fit at all.

I don't know where he goes.

I don't know where he goes.

I think Vegas or Bust, but I'm not. And you can say, well, why would he because it's closer West. It's Pete Carroll, it's Chip Kelly, it's Brock Bowers. They've got their left tackle. I think the Raiders actually have some really good pieces. Go watch them play. Go watch the replays of those Kansas City Raider games with bad quarterback play. They went toe to toe with the Chiefs in Arrowhead. So I don't Aaron Rodgers giants.

I think Vegas or Bust, but I'm not. And you can say, well, why would he because it's closer West. It's Pete Carroll, it's Chip Kelly, it's Brock Bowers. They've got their left tackle. I think the Raiders actually have some really good pieces. Go watch them play. Go watch the replays of those Kansas City Raider games with bad quarterback play. They went toe to toe with the Chiefs in Arrowhead. So I don't Aaron Rodgers giants.

I just do not see that. I don't. I think Aaron could call a career going out with this scilice. I wouldn't want to.

I just do not see that. I don't. I think Aaron could call a career going out with this scilice. I wouldn't want to.

But is there a quarterback he could shove out? Maybe in Seattle? Would you dump Gino Smith and get on board with Aaron Rodgers? Does that keep dk DK metcalf around. There's a lot of chatter about him and Lockett maybe being done in Seattle.