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All Right, here we go. It is a Thursday. It is live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Tom Brady stops by in thirty minutes. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. So, Jaback, I was thinking about this. I do not watch games with fans now infrequently. You and I'll go, or I'll go to my place in Manhattan Beach and I'll watch a game that doesn't really matter. What I would call a fun game. I haven't bet it. It may not be on the show, it's a Friday Saturday game. But generally I don't like to watch professional sports with other people that aren't in my business because they always blame the refs. Even my reasonable smart friends, they always blame the refs. Oh boy, here we go. So the Kansas City Chiefs are twenty two and two in their last twenty four and even jamac, a hardened journalist, believes it's luck, it's rigged. It's the officials. And so what has always been remarkable to me? And I'm not a snob on this stuff. I just get worn down by fans and friends. It's always the refs. So Kansas City now is the target of all this stuff. And you'll hear from Patrick Mahomes in about three minutes. But I'll give you an example. Fans will be tough on the officials. They want perfection, but yet they let their coach and their players off the hook all the time. So let's go to Sunday's game. So let's just go to this Houston game where everybody thought it was the refs. It is for than ten at this moment, it's the biggest possession of the game for the Houston Texans. They are scrambling to get the play in and here's the call.

All Right, here we go. It is a Thursday. It is live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Tom Brady stops by in thirty minutes. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. So, Jaback, I was thinking about this. I do not watch games with fans now infrequently. You and I'll go, or I'll go to my place in Manhattan Beach and I'll watch a game that doesn't really matter. What I would call a fun game. I haven't bet it. It may not be on the show, it's a Friday Saturday game. But generally I don't like to watch professional sports with other people that aren't in my business because they always blame the refs. Even my reasonable smart friends, they always blame the refs. Oh boy, here we go. So the Kansas City Chiefs are twenty two and two in their last twenty four and even jamac, a hardened journalist, believes it's luck, it's rigged. It's the officials. And so what has always been remarkable to me? And I'm not a snob on this stuff. I just get worn down by fans and friends. It's always the refs. So Kansas City now is the target of all this stuff. And you'll hear from Patrick Mahomes in about three minutes. But I'll give you an example. Fans will be tough on the officials. They want perfection, but yet they let their coach and their players off the hook all the time. So let's go to Sunday's game. So let's just go to this Houston game where everybody thought it was the refs. It is for than ten at this moment, it's the biggest possession of the game for the Houston Texans. They are scrambling to get the play in and here's the call.

Yeah, this is too big of a play. I think they need to call time out, but they snapped it. Glitz again.

Yeah, this is too big of a play. I think they need to call time out, but they snapped it. Glitz again.

Stroud in trouble Carloftus is there. Kansas City, bar complete Mayheim.

Stroud in trouble Carloftus is there. Kansas City, bar complete Mayheim.

You think you're gonna beat Andy Reid in a bye and you can't get that buttoned up. But Tamiko Ryans after said these officials, that was us against the world. Now, Kansas City didn't score on that. Now, let's go back to the first quarter. We'll reverse it. Let's go back to the first quarter. Remember, the NFL has instructed its officials call roughing on plays like this, and at first glance, it looked like roughing. It's not challengeable. So there's that play and everybody think that is not right. Well, on that play, it did give them a first down, I'll admit that. But on the very next play, Travis Kelcey, the best time end in football for six seven years is for one of four times on the day left wide open. You may want to cover him. I mean, Kansas City doesn't have a lethal receiving corps. They don't throw to their backs that much. That's the one guy you have to cover. You didn't. He was seventy percent of the offense. Xavier Worthy's more of a gadget guy. Rashi Rice is out. It's musical chairs at wide receiver. Noah Gray's not beating anybody down the field. You had one guy to cover if you left them open all game. Let's go back even further to the opening kickoff. You basically gave the Chiefs a three to nothing lead at Arrowhead off a buye, and to make it worse than giving up a sixty three yard kick, you had an unsportsman like penalty and a player shoving a coach. So you go on the road, you shove a coach, a disastrous special teams performance, You miss two field goals, that's six points. You miss a pat that's one point. You give up a field goal in the opening kick because of that nonsense, that's ten points. You lost by nine. And you also on several occasions did not cover the only really Hall of Fame level weapon Kansas City has Old Rickety Travis Kelcey. And you're blaming the refs on a go either way call with Will Anderson and Patrick Mahomes, which I said yesterday on first glance, I was like, Oh, that's that. That that and the referees it's not challengeable. They don't get slow mo, they don't get a replay, they got a call. What they see so again you demand that the officials are perfect when they're instructed to make certain calls and they're not challengeable calls. But you gave up on special teams. You gave up ten points and you lost by nine, and that gets lost over. Patrick Mahomes was talking about what it's like to be the chiefs now in this constant talk about officials and working the system.

You think you're gonna beat Andy Reid in a bye and you can't get that buttoned up. But Tamiko Ryans after said these officials, that was us against the world. Now, Kansas City didn't score on that. Now, let's go back to the first quarter. We'll reverse it. Let's go back to the first quarter. Remember, the NFL has instructed its officials call roughing on plays like this, and at first glance, it looked like roughing. It's not challengeable. So there's that play and everybody think that is not right. Well, on that play, it did give them a first down, I'll admit that. But on the very next play, Travis Kelcey, the best time end in football for six seven years is for one of four times on the day left wide open. You may want to cover him. I mean, Kansas City doesn't have a lethal receiving corps. They don't throw to their backs that much. That's the one guy you have to cover. You didn't. He was seventy percent of the offense. Xavier Worthy's more of a gadget guy. Rashi Rice is out. It's musical chairs at wide receiver. Noah Gray's not beating anybody down the field. You had one guy to cover if you left them open all game. Let's go back even further to the opening kickoff. You basically gave the Chiefs a three to nothing lead at Arrowhead off a buye, and to make it worse than giving up a sixty three yard kick, you had an unsportsman like penalty and a player shoving a coach. So you go on the road, you shove a coach, a disastrous special teams performance, You miss two field goals, that's six points. You miss a pat that's one point. You give up a field goal in the opening kick because of that nonsense, that's ten points. You lost by nine. And you also on several occasions did not cover the only really Hall of Fame level weapon Kansas City has Old Rickety Travis Kelcey. And you're blaming the refs on a go either way call with Will Anderson and Patrick Mahomes, which I said yesterday on first glance, I was like, Oh, that's that. That that and the referees it's not challengeable. They don't get slow mo, they don't get a replay, they got a call. What they see so again you demand that the officials are perfect when they're instructed to make certain calls and they're not challengeable calls. But you gave up on special teams. You gave up ten points and you lost by nine, and that gets lost over. Patrick Mahomes was talking about what it's like to be the chiefs now in this constant talk about officials and working the system.

And obviously I've been on both sides of it as far as how I felt the calls were made. But at the end of the day, man, those guys are doing doing their best to make the best calls and keep it to where the players and making the plays in the game. And that's what besides the outcome. And obviously there was a call here or there that people didn't agree with, but at the same time, I think there was a lot of other plays that really decided to out come of that football game.

And obviously I've been on both sides of it as far as how I felt the calls were made. But at the end of the day, man, those guys are doing doing their best to make the best calls and keep it to where the players and making the plays in the game. And that's what besides the outcome. And obviously there was a call here or there that people didn't agree with, but at the same time, I think there was a lot of other plays that really decided to out come of that football game.

Yes, there were. I've said this to NBA fans because for years and years NBA fans were relentless, mostly because the Lakers attracted better players. They had Shack and Kobe. That's the way it works. And I always said this whenever you want to complain as an NBA fan, ask yourself two questions. How many free throws did you miss? How many free throws did your team miss? Oh nine? You can't hit free throws as a professional basketball player. And how many turnovers do you have? And if the combination is like sixteen to eighteen mistakes, the refs get one occasionally two. All right, So I do not believe in curses, UFOs, ghosts. Yeah, I don't believe any of that stuff. Sorry, but I said this this morning to the staff. If Ben Johnson and the Bears don't work, I'm pouring my entire net worth into bitcoin. I think it's going to work. Now, there are so many things. This is not the Jets, this is not Carolina. This should work. And here's the new guy they hired. It's Ben Johnson. Full of energy, full of spirit. He talked yesterday. Here it is all right, Bears Nation.

Yes, there were. I've said this to NBA fans because for years and years NBA fans were relentless, mostly because the Lakers attracted better players. They had Shack and Kobe. That's the way it works. And I always said this whenever you want to complain as an NBA fan, ask yourself two questions. How many free throws did you miss? How many free throws did your team miss? Oh nine? You can't hit free throws as a professional basketball player. And how many turnovers do you have? And if the combination is like sixteen to eighteen mistakes, the refs get one occasionally two. All right, So I do not believe in curses, UFOs, ghosts. Yeah, I don't believe any of that stuff. Sorry, but I said this this morning to the staff. If Ben Johnson and the Bears don't work, I'm pouring my entire net worth into bitcoin. I think it's going to work. Now, there are so many things. This is not the Jets, this is not Carolina. This should work. And here's the new guy they hired. It's Ben Johnson. Full of energy, full of spirit. He talked yesterday. Here it is all right, Bears Nation.

You're ready to go beyond fired up to be here.

You're ready to go beyond fired up to be here.

This is exciting times. Cannot wait to get to work.

This is exciting times. Cannot wait to get to work.

Bear down, baby, Okay, sharp offensive coach known for maximizing offensive personnel, and the Bears have weapons. Just left a great culture so he can cherry pick some stuff. He had proximity to a great culture and a rebuild, right, Like, he wasn't in a dynasty, he was in a bad franchise that built up from the ground floor. So this is literally he's taking the job and he just worked through a four and five year cycle of what he wants to do. He can steal stuff from there. The Bears have good assets. They have sixty six million dollars in cap space, that's top five. They have a dynamic rookie quarterback who has four years he's basically free. And oh, by the way, you have three picks in the top forty one because you have an extra second. You have interesting weapons. This is not the Panther's job. This is not the Patriots job with Jerrod Mayo. That's not what this is. So I don't know if Ben Johnson can turn it around. I don't know if he's Bobby Flay or Sean McVay. But he's got a full pantry in a great kitchen. And if you go look, what really is true is that if you just look at the two teams that were in worse shape than Chicago Washington this year, I mean, Washington's roster coming into the season is significantly lower PFF than Chicago's that Ben Johnson will get and he's got He's got six seven draft picks to add and free agents. And Houston was a laughing stop ownership down. And they both gave you blueprints. For instance, Washington fixed the offensive line. Then they brought in like smart, savvy veterans Bobby Wagner, Zach Ertz, Marcus Mariota. So you don't even have to if you're Ben Johnson, you don't even have to be original. You can just steal what Washington did. You have a mobile quarterback, Your O line needs upgrading, Go add sprinkle in a couple savvy veterans, stir, put it in the oven, let it bake, and it should work. So now now, in the first moves, he hired Dennis Allen as a defensive coordinator. I like Dennis Allen as a DC, not a head coach. He's gonna bring reportedly as the offensive coordinator, the guy Hank Fraley that built that offensive line. I like that move. So there's a there's like eight reasons this should work. You don't even have to be original, just copy Washington, and I feel like I won't be watching a football team, I'll be watching an exorcis. Can they exercise their quarterback and offensive demons? Because when you look at this, this is a way better situation than Washington had, in a way better situation than Houston had. We hated Houston's roster two years ago, and Ben Johnson doesn't even get a rookie.

Bear down, baby, Okay, sharp offensive coach known for maximizing offensive personnel, and the Bears have weapons. Just left a great culture so he can cherry pick some stuff. He had proximity to a great culture and a rebuild, right, Like, he wasn't in a dynasty, he was in a bad franchise that built up from the ground floor. So this is literally he's taking the job and he just worked through a four and five year cycle of what he wants to do. He can steal stuff from there. The Bears have good assets. They have sixty six million dollars in cap space, that's top five. They have a dynamic rookie quarterback who has four years he's basically free. And oh, by the way, you have three picks in the top forty one because you have an extra second. You have interesting weapons. This is not the Panther's job. This is not the Patriots job with Jerrod Mayo. That's not what this is. So I don't know if Ben Johnson can turn it around. I don't know if he's Bobby Flay or Sean McVay. But he's got a full pantry in a great kitchen. And if you go look, what really is true is that if you just look at the two teams that were in worse shape than Chicago Washington this year, I mean, Washington's roster coming into the season is significantly lower PFF than Chicago's that Ben Johnson will get and he's got He's got six seven draft picks to add and free agents. And Houston was a laughing stop ownership down. And they both gave you blueprints. For instance, Washington fixed the offensive line. Then they brought in like smart, savvy veterans Bobby Wagner, Zach Ertz, Marcus Mariota. So you don't even have to if you're Ben Johnson, you don't even have to be original. You can just steal what Washington did. You have a mobile quarterback, Your O line needs upgrading, Go add sprinkle in a couple savvy veterans, stir, put it in the oven, let it bake, and it should work. So now now, in the first moves, he hired Dennis Allen as a defensive coordinator. I like Dennis Allen as a DC, not a head coach. He's gonna bring reportedly as the offensive coordinator, the guy Hank Fraley that built that offensive line. I like that move. So there's a there's like eight reasons this should work. You don't even have to be original, just copy Washington, and I feel like I won't be watching a football team, I'll be watching an exorcis. Can they exercise their quarterback and offensive demons? Because when you look at this, this is a way better situation than Washington had, in a way better situation than Houston had. We hated Houston's roster two years ago, and Ben Johnson doesn't even get a rookie.

CJ.

CJ.

Stride was a rookie for Demico Ryans. I mean, Caleb's already been in the league. So take a deep breath. But people ask me, you think it'll work, and I'm like, yeah, I think it will work. I think it will work. But this is not Remember most people thought if you would have had a younger, more current, richer owner, most people thought this was viewed as the best job available, despite their politics and potholes. So I'm looking at Dennis Allen, I'm looking at this, I'm looking at cap Space. I'm looking at you can use Washington with a mobile quarterback in all new people as an example. They're gonna bring the Lion's O line coach to be the OC. Like this should work. I'm very excited it should work. Here was is it? Ben Johnson introducing himself to Chicago. We already showed that video, right, we already showed that one. Okay, so j Max, you're looking at me kind of smiling. I'm not trying to be overly optimistic, but I also don't want to be cynical because it does stack up. There's a lot of stuff here. I mean, the big knock is we don't know if it's the right GM. We also don't know if it's the wrong one.

Stride was a rookie for Demico Ryans. I mean, Caleb's already been in the league. So take a deep breath. But people ask me, you think it'll work, and I'm like, yeah, I think it will work. I think it will work. But this is not Remember most people thought if you would have had a younger, more current, richer owner, most people thought this was viewed as the best job available, despite their politics and potholes. So I'm looking at Dennis Allen, I'm looking at this, I'm looking at cap Space. I'm looking at you can use Washington with a mobile quarterback in all new people as an example. They're gonna bring the Lion's O line coach to be the OC. Like this should work. I'm very excited it should work. Here was is it? Ben Johnson introducing himself to Chicago. We already showed that video, right, we already showed that one. Okay, so j Max, you're looking at me kind of smiling. I'm not trying to be overly optimistic, but I also don't want to be cynical because it does stack up. There's a lot of stuff here. I mean, the big knock is we don't know if it's the right GM. We also don't know if it's the wrong one.

I don't know much about Ben Johnson.

I don't know much about Ben Johnson.

I'd really never heard him say much outside of that video, so I wonder it was a little rigid. And I'm not being too critical here, but you know how when you like meet a girl and you think there's some major potential, it's just like you want to go salsa dancing and you're like, of course not, oh sure, yeah, let's go salsa dancing. Yeah, That, to me is what Ben Johnson felt like there, where he's like, all right, bear down, let's go. Well, he looks like a quiet reserve kind of cotton docors on the weekend kind of guy. Okay, who's buttoned up.

I'd really never heard him say much outside of that video, so I wonder it was a little rigid. And I'm not being too critical here, but you know how when you like meet a girl and you think there's some major potential, it's just like you want to go salsa dancing and you're like, of course not, oh sure, yeah, let's go salsa dancing. Yeah, That, to me is what Ben Johnson felt like there, where he's like, all right, bear down, let's go. Well, he looks like a quiet reserve kind of cotton docors on the weekend kind of guy. Okay, who's buttoned up.

And I don't know if that looked like the real Ben Johnson.

And I don't know if that looked like the real Ben Johnson.

Okay, let me just say this. I do to your point, he is not McVeigh, right, but I will tell you I think he could be Matt Lafleur. So when Matt Lafleur got the job in Green Bay, I made two calls to Tennessee. I said, what are they getting and they said, well, he hasn't shown that he can walk in and be a leader of men. He can be kind of quiet, kind of cerebral. The knock on him is, oh, he's going to Green Bay and it's Aaron Rodgers. Is he going to get overpowered? So he was not. By the way, Shanahan's not a big personality there. He's not. Zach Taylor's not. He's been to a Super Bowl.

Okay, let me just say this. I do to your point, he is not McVeigh, right, but I will tell you I think he could be Matt Lafleur. So when Matt Lafleur got the job in Green Bay, I made two calls to Tennessee. I said, what are they getting and they said, well, he hasn't shown that he can walk in and be a leader of men. He can be kind of quiet, kind of cerebral. The knock on him is, oh, he's going to Green Bay and it's Aaron Rodgers. Is he going to get overpowered? So he was not. By the way, Shanahan's not a big personality there. He's not. Zach Taylor's not. He's been to a Super Bowl.

Mike McDaniel's definitely.

Mike McDaniel's definitely.

Mike McDaniels is not. He's quirky. Matt Lafleur isn't. You look at McVeigh and you're like, well, Sean is the whole package. Okay. That is like comparing quarterbacks to mahomes. If you can be ninety three percent of mahomes, you're a seven time Pro bowler. Like if Jaden Daniels you said today is ninety percent of mahomes, that means he'll win a Super Bowl or two. Because Patrick may win six and he's going to be a thirteen time pro bowler and Patrick will be eighteen times. So my take is, don't look at McVeigh. I would look at Matt Lafleur, who was a bit reticent, not a huge personality kind of. I think what I hear about Ben very cerebral, very bright. Now now we don't want him to beat Adam Gaze, who really was tipped on the a little obscure, a little out there. But I think my take is best case scenario, and what I've heard over the last three days, there's some Matt Lafleur here.

Mike McDaniels is not. He's quirky. Matt Lafleur isn't. You look at McVeigh and you're like, well, Sean is the whole package. Okay. That is like comparing quarterbacks to mahomes. If you can be ninety three percent of mahomes, you're a seven time Pro bowler. Like if Jaden Daniels you said today is ninety percent of mahomes, that means he'll win a Super Bowl or two. Because Patrick may win six and he's going to be a thirteen time pro bowler and Patrick will be eighteen times. So my take is, don't look at McVeigh. I would look at Matt Lafleur, who was a bit reticent, not a huge personality kind of. I think what I hear about Ben very cerebral, very bright. Now now we don't want him to beat Adam Gaze, who really was tipped on the a little obscure, a little out there. But I think my take is best case scenario, and what I've heard over the last three days, there's some Matt Lafleur here.

That means big win. Colin breaking news.

That means big win. Colin breaking news.

The Buffalo Bills were just flagged fifteen yards for hitting Patrick Mahomes and the game till five days away.

The Buffalo Bills were just flagged fifteen yards for hitting Patrick Mahomes and the game till five days away.

Just wanted to put that on your radar, an early flag on the Buffalo Bills.

Just wanted to put that on your radar, an early flag on the Buffalo Bills.

See, I'm not going to watch games with you anymore. This is what it is. You. You were the last guy I watched games.

See, I'm not going to watch games with you anymore. This is what it is. You. You were the last guy I watched games.

I'm kidding.

I'm kidding.

I sit on my couch all weekend and just write down notes for games because you've done this before, like the Kansas City's gotten into Laker territory, like Kobe and Shack. So I used to say this all. We got Tom Brady here pretty quick. But I used to say this all the time about Shaq. If you went to a Laker game and watched, how often Shaq was fouled and it wasn't called. But if you watched on TV you thought Shaq was fouling everybody. You had to go to a Laker game, sit there and watch Shaq get mugged for two and a half hours.

I sit on my couch all weekend and just write down notes for games because you've done this before, like the Kansas City's gotten into Laker territory, like Kobe and Shack. So I used to say this all. We got Tom Brady here pretty quick. But I used to say this all the time about Shaq. If you went to a Laker game and watched, how often Shaq was fouled and it wasn't called. But if you watched on TV you thought Shaq was fouling everybody. You had to go to a Laker game, sit there and watch Shaq get mugged for two and a half hours.

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Yeah. I'm eternally grateful that I got a broadcast for a living and watch sports and take notes and have fun. But it's also been great that I get Tom Brady on a regular basis. He is joining us all.

Yeah. I'm eternally grateful that I got a broadcast for a living and watch sports and take notes and have fun. But it's also been great that I get Tom Brady on a regular basis. He is joining us all.

Now.

Now.

I gotta start with this because everything I read on and the internet Tom is true, and it breaks my heart that we only got to work a year together. You're already leaving, so it's really hard for me. I swear to God, the interweb has you. I don't know where you're going, but you're leaving. Would you address that please?

I gotta start with this because everything I read on and the internet Tom is true, and it breaks my heart that we only got to work a year together. You're already leaving, so it's really hard for me. I swear to God, the interweb has you. I don't know where you're going, but you're leaving. Would you address that please?

It's hard for me too. I thought it was a great run, you know, one solid year, so you know there's time for new things, and I figured, you know, this has been totally master to this point. Yeah, I don't know where it comes from. I know it always says sources close to Brady or whatever. But I've had the best time at Fox, and I've loved every time going into the booth and working with such great people, starting with my partner Kevin, everyone in our crew, Ze Russ, Aaron, Tom who you know everyone would probably know a little bit about, but behind the scenes, there's so many incredible people that bring the NFL to life and to see kind of how it is from a different perspective, you know, I've had so many years, twenty three years playing on the field, I've watched so many games from from you know, the sideline, sideline view, and now I'm sitting up there in the booth and seeing it from a different perspective. And I've I've I've loved kind of just the whole process and diving into all these different teams. It's been a lot of growth for me in one year, and I really can't see can't wait to see what it looks like in year or two, and and way beyond that too. So I got nine years left on my deal and maybe longer. You never know. If Fox wants me, then I want to go. We'll just keep going because it's been it's been really fun thus far.

It's hard for me too. I thought it was a great run, you know, one solid year, so you know there's time for new things, and I figured, you know, this has been totally master to this point. Yeah, I don't know where it comes from. I know it always says sources close to Brady or whatever. But I've had the best time at Fox, and I've loved every time going into the booth and working with such great people, starting with my partner Kevin, everyone in our crew, Ze Russ, Aaron, Tom who you know everyone would probably know a little bit about, but behind the scenes, there's so many incredible people that bring the NFL to life and to see kind of how it is from a different perspective, you know, I've had so many years, twenty three years playing on the field, I've watched so many games from from you know, the sideline, sideline view, and now I'm sitting up there in the booth and seeing it from a different perspective. And I've I've I've loved kind of just the whole process and diving into all these different teams. It's been a lot of growth for me in one year, and I really can't see can't wait to see what it looks like in year or two, and and way beyond that too. So I got nine years left on my deal and maybe longer. You never know. If Fox wants me, then I want to go. We'll just keep going because it's been it's been really fun thus far.

I think sources close to Brady or your kids, and my guess is they're not leaking stuff to the internet. So okay, So all right, let's get into the raider stuff. So they need a coach again, there's a lot of talk about who the coach. They need a general manager. So you're a rookie broadcaster, you're now a rookie part of an ownership group. Kind of give me what does this entail.

I think sources close to Brady or your kids, and my guess is they're not leaking stuff to the internet. So okay, So all right, let's get into the raider stuff. So they need a coach again, there's a lot of talk about who the coach. They need a general manager. So you're a rookie broadcaster, you're now a rookie part of an ownership group. Kind of give me what does this entail.

That's a great point, you know, being rookie too. You got to almost go back to what your roots are as a rookie and remember that when you are a rookie year trying to learn as much as you can. And when I was a rookie as a quarterback, I really just kind of engulf myself in the playbook and listen to a lot of the veterans, and this is how you're going to go about it, Tom, this is how you're going to be the best possible player you can be. And then you realize that many years later, ten years later, I started to actually perform the way that I thought I was capable of performing. So I wish I could have played football my entire life, but that kind of, you know, twenty three years was long enough. I got tired of really taking the hits and I wanted to spend, you know, as much time as I could with the kids. So really being involved with the Raiders gives me an opportunity to be involved with football for the rest of my life. And I really love teamwork. I always have. I love seeing other people succeed. I really hope other players get former players get opportunities to be involved with teams. And right now I've got there's a great own group, there's other great people involved on one voice. It's so collaborative. But I think this process of learning is so important. So that's kind of where it's at.

That's a great point, you know, being rookie too. You got to almost go back to what your roots are as a rookie and remember that when you are a rookie year trying to learn as much as you can. And when I was a rookie as a quarterback, I really just kind of engulf myself in the playbook and listen to a lot of the veterans, and this is how you're going to go about it, Tom, this is how you're going to be the best possible player you can be. And then you realize that many years later, ten years later, I started to actually perform the way that I thought I was capable of performing. So I wish I could have played football my entire life, but that kind of, you know, twenty three years was long enough. I got tired of really taking the hits and I wanted to spend, you know, as much time as I could with the kids. So really being involved with the Raiders gives me an opportunity to be involved with football for the rest of my life. And I really love teamwork. I always have. I love seeing other people succeed. I really hope other players get former players get opportunities to be involved with teams. And right now I've got there's a great own group, there's other great people involved on one voice. It's so collaborative. But I think this process of learning is so important. So that's kind of where it's at.

So I want to ask you about Ben Johnson. So this is interesting to me. So everybody says, and I think I fall into this, Hey he got an offensive coach, and you think immediately that's great, but you didn't. And in fact, Belichick let you and Josh kind of go behind the curtain and he let you do your thing, which I love that that's cool, Like, hey, you're into it, Josh. If you get an offensive coach.

So I want to ask you about Ben Johnson. So this is interesting to me. So everybody says, and I think I fall into this, Hey he got an offensive coach, and you think immediately that's great, but you didn't. And in fact, Belichick let you and Josh kind of go behind the curtain and he let you do your thing, which I love that that's cool, Like, hey, you're into it, Josh. If you get an offensive coach.

Here's what I think when you look at these go ahead, sorry Carl a second delay. But I think that it's there's such a jigsaw puzzle when you look at a lot of different organizations, and whether football organizations or basketball baseball, I think it's a collective group of people and you've got to figure out that puzzle of what exactly fit. If you do have a defensive head coach, you know, like Bill Was. Bill was a great manager, and Bill did a great job coach in the coaches and he had high expectations. I think he had backgrounded offense, so he didn't necessarily probably throw all his ideas out there, but he did have a general understanding of how we should perform on offense and he had expectations for that. Bill was, I thought, one of the greatest special teams coaches ever in the history of the NFL, and obviously the greatest defensive coordinator probably in the history of the NFL. So I think when you look at all the different roles that he played in the organization that I was successful in. He did more than just coach. He was a great kind of added beneficiary or added great benefit to the defensive staff. He was a great listening and is about to listen to what we're doing offensively, could provide insight to that. There was a lot of things he added to our clubs. So this whole puzzle with the offense coach defensive coach, I just it should be about great people doing great things, working collaboratively, being humble, learning every year. In the same way that you said earlier to me, you're always trying to up your game every year. I feel like that's what I always try to do as a player, and I don't see that's any different in football or in business. Everybody should always be looking to improve and understanding where their weaknesses are, how to improve their weaknesses, and then continue to build on their strengths.

Here's what I think when you look at these go ahead, sorry Carl a second delay. But I think that it's there's such a jigsaw puzzle when you look at a lot of different organizations, and whether football organizations or basketball baseball, I think it's a collective group of people and you've got to figure out that puzzle of what exactly fit. If you do have a defensive head coach, you know, like Bill Was. Bill was a great manager, and Bill did a great job coach in the coaches and he had high expectations. I think he had backgrounded offense, so he didn't necessarily probably throw all his ideas out there, but he did have a general understanding of how we should perform on offense and he had expectations for that. Bill was, I thought, one of the greatest special teams coaches ever in the history of the NFL, and obviously the greatest defensive coordinator probably in the history of the NFL. So I think when you look at all the different roles that he played in the organization that I was successful in. He did more than just coach. He was a great kind of added beneficiary or added great benefit to the defensive staff. He was a great listening and is about to listen to what we're doing offensively, could provide insight to that. There was a lot of things he added to our clubs. So this whole puzzle with the offense coach defensive coach, I just it should be about great people doing great things, working collaboratively, being humble, learning every year. In the same way that you said earlier to me, you're always trying to up your game every year. I feel like that's what I always try to do as a player, and I don't see that's any different in football or in business. Everybody should always be looking to improve and understanding where their weaknesses are, how to improve their weaknesses, and then continue to build on their strengths.

You watched a lot of Caleb Williams. If there was one thing that you want him to improve on that Ben Johnson can zero in on and you got a lot of snaps. Is there one thing you'd say, hey, Caleb, this is the one thing I want you to work on.

You watched a lot of Caleb Williams. If there was one thing that you want him to improve on that Ben Johnson can zero in on and you got a lot of snaps. Is there one thing you'd say, hey, Caleb, this is the one thing I want you to work on.

I think it's always you know, well, I would say this for any player, and Caleb in particularly as a young player, there's a lot of room for growth. Obviously, it's really up to him to decide where he wants to spend his time and energy to become the player that he wants to be. And I believe that there's three parts that make up great players, the physical, the mental, the emotional. We all have deficiencies. None of of are fur pick players. Maybe the only perfect players I played against was Ed Reid, ray Lewis, Jason Taylor. Those guys were perfect in my opinion, but they had so many things figured out. I, let's say, at one point, was physically probably not where I wanted to be. Mentally emotional, I was always very good. I had a great understanding of the tactics. I could bring a competitive desire to practice every single day to get the most out of my teammates. Where I needed to prove is physically. How do I become a better pocket passer? How do I improve the footwork in my pocket? How can I become more durable? How can I be a little bit more stronger in the pocket. When those things caught up to what I was doing mentally and emotionally, I became the type of player that I wanted to be. Some guys are really blessed physically, so they don't have to work on necessarily the mental, emotional as much. So I think you always have to have an understanding if you want to reach your true potential, it's about maximizing all three of them. Those things. I went and spoke to the Notre Dame football team before they were in the Orange season, before they won the Orange Bowl. I talked about those exact same things. I talk to any player who comes up and talks to me, whether it's other quarterbacks on other teams, whether it's college teams. You know they're always seeking my advice, and I tell them the same thing. You have to have a self awareness about who you are, where you want to go, and then work hard at the things where you're deficient and while still understanding what your strengths are and bill on those. But this is this is a full time job to be an NFL player. This is I woke up in the morning brushing my teeth in the morning thinking about my throwing mechanics. If I just get my left shoulder looking in the mirror of you's That's how I thought about it, and I think that's why I was able to have such a productive career over a long period of time.

I think it's always you know, well, I would say this for any player, and Caleb in particularly as a young player, there's a lot of room for growth. Obviously, it's really up to him to decide where he wants to spend his time and energy to become the player that he wants to be. And I believe that there's three parts that make up great players, the physical, the mental, the emotional. We all have deficiencies. None of of are fur pick players. Maybe the only perfect players I played against was Ed Reid, ray Lewis, Jason Taylor. Those guys were perfect in my opinion, but they had so many things figured out. I, let's say, at one point, was physically probably not where I wanted to be. Mentally emotional, I was always very good. I had a great understanding of the tactics. I could bring a competitive desire to practice every single day to get the most out of my teammates. Where I needed to prove is physically. How do I become a better pocket passer? How do I improve the footwork in my pocket? How can I become more durable? How can I be a little bit more stronger in the pocket. When those things caught up to what I was doing mentally and emotionally, I became the type of player that I wanted to be. Some guys are really blessed physically, so they don't have to work on necessarily the mental, emotional as much. So I think you always have to have an understanding if you want to reach your true potential, it's about maximizing all three of them. Those things. I went and spoke to the Notre Dame football team before they were in the Orange season, before they won the Orange Bowl. I talked about those exact same things. I talk to any player who comes up and talks to me, whether it's other quarterbacks on other teams, whether it's college teams. You know they're always seeking my advice, and I tell them the same thing. You have to have a self awareness about who you are, where you want to go, and then work hard at the things where you're deficient and while still understanding what your strengths are and bill on those. But this is this is a full time job to be an NFL player. This is I woke up in the morning brushing my teeth in the morning thinking about my throwing mechanics. If I just get my left shoulder looking in the mirror of you's That's how I thought about it, and I think that's why I was able to have such a productive career over a long period of time.

Jaden Daniels is obviously gifted. He moves well, he's accurate when you watch him from upstairs. What is the one thing that surprises you about Jaden Daniels as a rookie quarterback.

Jaden Daniels is obviously gifted. He moves well, he's accurate when you watch him from upstairs. What is the one thing that surprises you about Jaden Daniels as a rookie quarterback.

I think when you deal with most rookie quarterbacks, and I think what I saw in this Detroit game is when they most defensive coaches. Now, it's just like, let's put pressure on him, Let's get to the middle of the pocket. Let's send blitzers. He won't see him, he won't have a full understanding of protections or where his great one on one matchups are. Jaden looks and I know this for a fact. He is a tremendous work ethic. Everybody speaks about his ability to work hard. He's in the playbook after he gets drafted. In the offseason, he's trying to understand what the coaches are going to ask him, and then you see how it's reflected in his rookie season, one of the great rookie seasons any quarterbacks ever had. And he's got a great connection with his players. He has the physical tools, and he's a very humble kid. How that reflects, and when I watch him play, he has tremendous poison in the pocket. He's calm under the chaos of being an NFL quarterback. They're blitzing him the other night the Lions, where he's standing in the pocket waiting the very last second a lot like you know Patrick does in so many ways, and then delivers the ball accurately to his receivers instride and they make big plays. So that's I think a little bit about what's in store for him as he continues to develop in his future, his poise, confidence in himself. Some players need production to become confident. Some people become confident before they have any production. That's a great trait to have as an athlete. Before you walk on the field, you're confident. You don't need to complete your first five passes to become confident. And I think that's what I see in a young Jayden Daniels.

I think when you deal with most rookie quarterbacks, and I think what I saw in this Detroit game is when they most defensive coaches. Now, it's just like, let's put pressure on him, Let's get to the middle of the pocket. Let's send blitzers. He won't see him, he won't have a full understanding of protections or where his great one on one matchups are. Jaden looks and I know this for a fact. He is a tremendous work ethic. Everybody speaks about his ability to work hard. He's in the playbook after he gets drafted. In the offseason, he's trying to understand what the coaches are going to ask him, and then you see how it's reflected in his rookie season, one of the great rookie seasons any quarterbacks ever had. And he's got a great connection with his players. He has the physical tools, and he's a very humble kid. How that reflects, and when I watch him play, he has tremendous poison in the pocket. He's calm under the chaos of being an NFL quarterback. They're blitzing him the other night the Lions, where he's standing in the pocket waiting the very last second a lot like you know Patrick does in so many ways, and then delivers the ball accurately to his receivers instride and they make big plays. So that's I think a little bit about what's in store for him as he continues to develop in his future, his poise, confidence in himself. Some players need production to become confident. Some people become confident before they have any production. That's a great trait to have as an athlete. Before you walk on the field, you're confident. You don't need to complete your first five passes to become confident. And I think that's what I see in a young Jayden Daniels.

Take out Gronk and the Patriots weren't known as personality. Plus Belichick muted some of that, or or players self muted that, knowing Bill didn't like it. And then there's the Philadelphia Eagles. It's ego and now now Barkley. Saquan is very patriot like Jalen Hurts a little bit, but it's a big personality. The coach is barking at fans, how does it work in Philadelphia because it's the opposite of your dynasty.

Take out Gronk and the Patriots weren't known as personality. Plus Belichick muted some of that, or or players self muted that, knowing Bill didn't like it. And then there's the Philadelphia Eagles. It's ego and now now Barkley. Saquan is very patriot like Jalen Hurts a little bit, but it's a big personality. The coach is barking at fans, how does it work in Philadelphia because it's the opposite of your dynasty.

Sure, I think they do things very uniquely. But Howie Roseman's done an incredible job assembling that team. I think he's a guy that lives in breathe football every single day. When you think about being tough, you think about the offensive line and running the football, and the defensive line and their ability to stop the run. And you're right, they do have some personalities. But when I look at Jordan my Alatta, when I look at Lane Johnson and Dickerson and Jurgiens and Makai Beckton coming in there, the strength of that team is their offensive line and Saquon and they're just tremendous. That dominating force they have up front is absolutely incredible, and the defensive line has drawn a tremendous job, and Williams has done a great job. Jalen Carter's had a great second season, Sweat's done a great job. They lost Brandon, Graham and Huff to injury, and they're still producing at a very high level. So I think that physical toughness permeates the whole team. And then you're right. I think naturally at the skill positions there always is a little more personality. And I reference this in one of the games. The receivers certainly, and this has been even when I was a rookie with Terry Glenn. You know, God rest his soul, but he had a, you know, his own way of trying to get included. And if they're not getting passes all the time, whether that was Randy, who I love more than anyone in this world, they just they want to feel included in what they're doing. If they're not getting balls and impact in the game, they want to let you know about it. And that's just part of it that comes with the territory. AJ does a little bit of that. DeVante Smith is obviously a great teammate and a very unselfish player. But naturally, some of those I would say, cornerback positions, receiver positions, they have their own way of looking at things and you just deal with it.

Sure, I think they do things very uniquely. But Howie Roseman's done an incredible job assembling that team. I think he's a guy that lives in breathe football every single day. When you think about being tough, you think about the offensive line and running the football, and the defensive line and their ability to stop the run. And you're right, they do have some personalities. But when I look at Jordan my Alatta, when I look at Lane Johnson and Dickerson and Jurgiens and Makai Beckton coming in there, the strength of that team is their offensive line and Saquon and they're just tremendous. That dominating force they have up front is absolutely incredible, and the defensive line has drawn a tremendous job, and Williams has done a great job. Jalen Carter's had a great second season, Sweat's done a great job. They lost Brandon, Graham and Huff to injury, and they're still producing at a very high level. So I think that physical toughness permeates the whole team. And then you're right. I think naturally at the skill positions there always is a little more personality. And I reference this in one of the games. The receivers certainly, and this has been even when I was a rookie with Terry Glenn. You know, God rest his soul, but he had a, you know, his own way of trying to get included. And if they're not getting passes all the time, whether that was Randy, who I love more than anyone in this world, they just they want to feel included in what they're doing. If they're not getting balls and impact in the game, they want to let you know about it. And that's just part of it that comes with the territory. AJ does a little bit of that. DeVante Smith is obviously a great teammate and a very unselfish player. But naturally, some of those I would say, cornerback positions, receiver positions, they have their own way of looking at things and you just deal with it.

Probably finally here because we have about three minutes left, Mahomes. Mahomes getting a lot of heat. I've been defending the Patriots, I said a couple of years ago when they when they moved off Tyreek Hill, they became the Patriots. They wouldn't be the firework shows. Like you guys losing Moss, You're not gonna score fifty. You're gonna have to be more efficient. You have to be smarter, you have to be even better situationally, Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill give you those free touchdowns over the top and those two play drives those are over I think they manipulate. I think they leverage. I think they're smart. I don't think you know, all this rig stuff's nonsense. But but I will say Mahomes and that out of bound stuff where he stops, I don't love that. I think it's I don't love that. What do you make of the late hits and the controversy that the league is protecting Mahomes, What do you make of all of it?

Probably finally here because we have about three minutes left, Mahomes. Mahomes getting a lot of heat. I've been defending the Patriots, I said a couple of years ago when they when they moved off Tyreek Hill, they became the Patriots. They wouldn't be the firework shows. Like you guys losing Moss, You're not gonna score fifty. You're gonna have to be more efficient. You have to be smarter, you have to be even better situationally, Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill give you those free touchdowns over the top and those two play drives those are over I think they manipulate. I think they leverage. I think they're smart. I don't think you know, all this rig stuff's nonsense. But but I will say Mahomes and that out of bound stuff where he stops, I don't love that. I think it's I don't love that. What do you make of the late hits and the controversy that the league is protecting Mahomes, What do you make of all of it?

Well, there's an aspect that I don't like about the some of these defensive rules. I think I've been pretty outspoken, not just on broadcasts but just in general over the last bunch of years and before a quarterbacks out of bounds, you know you hit them. And it's the reality for me is offensive players need to protect themselves and if they're running full speed and the defenders are coming up, the defenders the intent is to create The only way to turn the ball over is to create force. Right, you're not going to blow on the football and gonna, you know, knock its way out of a running back's hands or a quarterback says you got to go in there with force and knock it out. You're trying to create turnovers, you're trying to disrupt the pass, you're trying to dislodge the ball. The only way to do that is with force, and there needs to be an aggressiveness to doing that. When quarterbacks become running backs and they're out of the pocket, they should lose their protection. And we are in essence, we're trying to say we're trying to protect the quarterbacks, but coaches are calling more quarterback runs than ever in the history of the game. So who's protecting the quarterback? You're trying to say the referee should do it. I believe if you're an offensive player and you can't protect yourself or you're a defensive player, and you can't protect yourself. If you're a d lineman and you're engaged in a block, no one can come and clip you, which is that's a chop block. That's well known. Everyone agrees with that. If you're defending your own block, you know they can. They got to get you on the ground somehow. If you're running with the ball, you should protect yourself. If you don't want to get hit, you can go down, you can run out of bounds, but you can't, in essence, have the defensive player come in at half speed and then you run over the defensive player because he's afraid of getting a penalty. And I think it's just a disservice to the game. It's something that I would hope that people would really address and say, not that anyone's trying to take advantage of the rules, but they've just gone to a point where it does impact the quality of the game. I was on my social media and I was watching Ronnie Lott and who's the greatest safety Ronnie Lott?

Well, there's an aspect that I don't like about the some of these defensive rules. I think I've been pretty outspoken, not just on broadcasts but just in general over the last bunch of years and before a quarterbacks out of bounds, you know you hit them. And it's the reality for me is offensive players need to protect themselves and if they're running full speed and the defenders are coming up, the defenders the intent is to create The only way to turn the ball over is to create force. Right, you're not going to blow on the football and gonna, you know, knock its way out of a running back's hands or a quarterback says you got to go in there with force and knock it out. You're trying to create turnovers, you're trying to disrupt the pass, you're trying to dislodge the ball. The only way to do that is with force, and there needs to be an aggressiveness to doing that. When quarterbacks become running backs and they're out of the pocket, they should lose their protection. And we are in essence, we're trying to say we're trying to protect the quarterbacks, but coaches are calling more quarterback runs than ever in the history of the game. So who's protecting the quarterback? You're trying to say the referee should do it. I believe if you're an offensive player and you can't protect yourself or you're a defensive player, and you can't protect yourself. If you're a d lineman and you're engaged in a block, no one can come and clip you, which is that's a chop block. That's well known. Everyone agrees with that. If you're defending your own block, you know they can. They got to get you on the ground somehow. If you're running with the ball, you should protect yourself. If you don't want to get hit, you can go down, you can run out of bounds, but you can't, in essence, have the defensive player come in at half speed and then you run over the defensive player because he's afraid of getting a penalty. And I think it's just a disservice to the game. It's something that I would hope that people would really address and say, not that anyone's trying to take advantage of the rules, but they've just gone to a point where it does impact the quality of the game. I was on my social media and I was watching Ronnie Lott and who's the greatest safety Ronnie Lott?

Why?

Why?

Because he brought a force to the game that if you were catching the ball over the middle, he was going to force incomplete passes and if the quarterbacks made bad reads, you know, that's who That's how the game got taught. Now there's no repercussions for quarterbacks making poor reads, making poor decisions out of the pocket. So I think, overall, in my opinion, that needs to be seriously looked at.

Because he brought a force to the game that if you were catching the ball over the middle, he was going to force incomplete passes and if the quarterbacks made bad reads, you know, that's who That's how the game got taught. Now there's no repercussions for quarterbacks making poor reads, making poor decisions out of the pocket. So I think, overall, in my opinion, that needs to be seriously looked at.

All right, And like the professional broadcaster he is, he hands it to me for about twelve seconds left before we go to break. Tom Brady, nice to know you're going to be back at Fox. You know, you gotta be careful about the interweb, folks. Not everything, believe it or not, is true. And his sources, I swear to you, are as kids, and that's who's everybody's sources should be.

All right, And like the professional broadcaster he is, he hands it to me for about twelve seconds left before we go to break. Tom Brady, nice to know you're going to be back at Fox. You know, you gotta be careful about the interweb, folks. Not everything, believe it or not, is true. And his sources, I swear to you, are as kids, and that's who's everybody's sources should be.

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So earlier, Danny Parkins pushback on Jaden Daniels maybe being the top five quarterback in the NFL. But I do think we have four that are established, you know, Mahomes, Alan Burrow and Lamar Jackson are established. Not everybody's going to hoist trophies. And then I think you get into five and a lot of people would say Stafford. I would, But if you considered everything, if you were starting a franchise today, you're the gm age health salary, I think you've got an argument you'd pick Jaden Daniels.

So earlier, Danny Parkins pushback on Jaden Daniels maybe being the top five quarterback in the NFL. But I do think we have four that are established, you know, Mahomes, Alan Burrow and Lamar Jackson are established. Not everybody's going to hoist trophies. And then I think you get into five and a lot of people would say Stafford. I would, But if you considered everything, if you were starting a franchise today, you're the gm age health salary, I think you've got an argument you'd pick Jaden Daniels.

Right.

Right.

The great stock pickers in America don't pick it when the stock is at eighty dollars a share. They find that at two dollars a share. So I mean part of the attractiveness with Jayden Daniels, no bad habits to correct, very inexpensive for the next four years. He's got his health like this is going to be the worst roster Jaden Daniels plays for on his first concent Here's what Here's what Tom Brady said earlier. What blows him away about Jade Daniels.

The great stock pickers in America don't pick it when the stock is at eighty dollars a share. They find that at two dollars a share. So I mean part of the attractiveness with Jayden Daniels, no bad habits to correct, very inexpensive for the next four years. He's got his health like this is going to be the worst roster Jaden Daniels plays for on his first concent Here's what Here's what Tom Brady said earlier. What blows him away about Jade Daniels.

He has tremendous poison in the pocket. He's calm under the chaos of being an NFL quarterback. They're blitzing him the other night the Lions where he's standing in the pocket waiting for the very last second, a lot like you know Patrick does in so many ways. And then delivers the ball accurately to his receivers. Some players need production to become confident. Some people become confident before they have any production. That's a great trait to have as an athlete. Before you walk on the field, you're confident. You don't need to complete your first five passes to become confident. And I think that's what I see in a young Jade Daniels.

He has tremendous poison in the pocket. He's calm under the chaos of being an NFL quarterback. They're blitzing him the other night the Lions where he's standing in the pocket waiting for the very last second, a lot like you know Patrick does in so many ways. And then delivers the ball accurately to his receivers. Some players need production to become confident. Some people become confident before they have any production. That's a great trait to have as an athlete. Before you walk on the field, you're confident. You don't need to complete your first five passes to become confident. And I think that's what I see in a young Jade Daniels.

That's a really good that's a really good thought. Okay, do we have the breaking bar? It should be in green, not red. We have a new coach for the New York Jets, Aaron Glenn, defensive man. I think he's impressive former Jet. I think he was a scout for the team for a while. I don't have a problem with it. I think of all the job openings this year that were six or seven, I think the Jets have the best roster. I don't think it's I don't think it's a bad I mean, he just came out of a great culture, so I don't have a problem with it. I think we tend to look at offensive coordinators as the future of the NFL, and I would prefer if I had a young quarterback. Generally i'd prefer an offensive coach. But Washington's got Dan Quinn and they hired a great coordinator, so it can be done. Demiko Ryans was CJ. Stroud defensive coach. Sean McDermott, he went from Brian day Bolt. Now they got Joe Brady, so I mean it can be done. I mean, let's let's be honest. John Harbaugh is not an offensive coach, and Sean McDermott's non offensive coach, and Dan Quinn isn't and they were round then last weekend. Demiko Ryans was around last weekend. And if I was the Raiders, I think I'd hire Pete Carroll. So I don't have a problem. I think, I again, we're seeing defensive coaches with young quarterbacks succeed. And I also think this organization has made a pivot. Whether or not Aaron Rodgers is in the building, he will not control things. He's not gonna tell them go get me this, this, this. They don't care. There is a new sheriff in town. It's Aaron Glenn. I like the hire. I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I thought Vrabel was an excellent higher I mean, so far, I think the hires have been pretty shrewd. I mean, my opinion, Vrabel is exactly who New England should have hired. I had Ben Johnson number two on my list. But by all accounts, that's a smart hire. I think if Pete Carroll goes to the Raiders, that's an excellent higher. I don't have a problem with this higher at all. They weren't going to get Ben Johnson, so okay, and they weren't going to get Rabel, so I like the higher. I don't have a problem with it. I mean, Aaron I called somebody last night and he thought this was going to happen, and nothing but good things to say about Aaron Glenn. And this is a good team. This is this is a good roster. You know, you can say what you want about Robert Sala. They got way worse after Robert Sala left. So let me read this the Okay, this is interesting. This is Adam Schefter. The Jets have now hired seven head coaches since the end of two thousand seasons, so in fairness, that is twenty five years, and with Aaron Glenn, six of them have been first time head coaches with defensive backgrounds. Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles, Robert Sala, Glenn now Herm Edwards had some success. Eric Mangini Early had some success, Rex Ryan had some success, Bulls Sala didn't. The lone exception was Adam Gase and that was the biggest mess. So I am I am offensive coach guy, but not in all cases. I think Vrabel is a good good hire. J Mack your reaction, So I.

That's a really good that's a really good thought. Okay, do we have the breaking bar? It should be in green, not red. We have a new coach for the New York Jets, Aaron Glenn, defensive man. I think he's impressive former Jet. I think he was a scout for the team for a while. I don't have a problem with it. I think of all the job openings this year that were six or seven, I think the Jets have the best roster. I don't think it's I don't think it's a bad I mean, he just came out of a great culture, so I don't have a problem with it. I think we tend to look at offensive coordinators as the future of the NFL, and I would prefer if I had a young quarterback. Generally i'd prefer an offensive coach. But Washington's got Dan Quinn and they hired a great coordinator, so it can be done. Demiko Ryans was CJ. Stroud defensive coach. Sean McDermott, he went from Brian day Bolt. Now they got Joe Brady, so I mean it can be done. I mean, let's let's be honest. John Harbaugh is not an offensive coach, and Sean McDermott's non offensive coach, and Dan Quinn isn't and they were round then last weekend. Demiko Ryans was around last weekend. And if I was the Raiders, I think I'd hire Pete Carroll. So I don't have a problem. I think, I again, we're seeing defensive coaches with young quarterbacks succeed. And I also think this organization has made a pivot. Whether or not Aaron Rodgers is in the building, he will not control things. He's not gonna tell them go get me this, this, this. They don't care. There is a new sheriff in town. It's Aaron Glenn. I like the hire. I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I thought Vrabel was an excellent higher I mean, so far, I think the hires have been pretty shrewd. I mean, my opinion, Vrabel is exactly who New England should have hired. I had Ben Johnson number two on my list. But by all accounts, that's a smart hire. I think if Pete Carroll goes to the Raiders, that's an excellent higher. I don't have a problem with this higher at all. They weren't going to get Ben Johnson, so okay, and they weren't going to get Rabel, so I like the higher. I don't have a problem with it. I mean, Aaron I called somebody last night and he thought this was going to happen, and nothing but good things to say about Aaron Glenn. And this is a good team. This is this is a good roster. You know, you can say what you want about Robert Sala. They got way worse after Robert Sala left. So let me read this the Okay, this is interesting. This is Adam Schefter. The Jets have now hired seven head coaches since the end of two thousand seasons, so in fairness, that is twenty five years, and with Aaron Glenn, six of them have been first time head coaches with defensive backgrounds. Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles, Robert Sala, Glenn now Herm Edwards had some success. Eric Mangini Early had some success, Rex Ryan had some success, Bulls Sala didn't. The lone exception was Adam Gase and that was the biggest mess. So I am I am offensive coach guy, but not in all cases. I think Vrabel is a good good hire. J Mack your reaction, So I.

Wasn't super positive on this earlier this week, Remember when it seemed like it was trending this way.

Wasn't super positive on this earlier this week, Remember when it seemed like it was trending this way.

I gotta be honest.

I gotta be honest.

I'm a Jets fan. I've been rooting for this team for a long time. You remember the Aaron Rodgers stuff. I did not want Rogers. I did not want Rodgers when they got him. All right, let's go Rogers, Let's get us to the playoffs. So I'm on board with the Aaron Glenn hyre. I just had to go on YouTube. Do you remember the Dan Marino fake spike touchdown Passaga Cotette? Yeah, nineteen ninety four. Do you remember the cornerback who was victimized on that play, Aaron Glen?

I'm a Jets fan. I've been rooting for this team for a long time. You remember the Aaron Rodgers stuff. I did not want Rogers. I did not want Rodgers when they got him. All right, let's go Rogers, Let's get us to the playoffs. So I'm on board with the Aaron Glenn hyre. I just had to go on YouTube. Do you remember the Dan Marino fake spike touchdown Passaga Cotette? Yeah, nineteen ninety four. Do you remember the cornerback who was victimized on that play, Aaron Glen?

It was excellent. Yeah, So listen, I'm gonna be positive and you're right.

It was excellent. Yeah, So listen, I'm gonna be positive and you're right.

They have a good roster, but there is a lot I crap, you gotta clean out of that roster, a lot of garbage.

They have a good roster, but there is a lot I crap, you gotta clean out of that roster, a lot of garbage.

Clean What garbage do you have to clean out? I think you start under center.

Clean What garbage do you have to clean out? I think you start under center.

Huh, you wanna start with the quarterback?

Huh, you wanna start with the quarterback?

Okay, let's let's let's let's talk about he's the best available guy in the market, So let's move off Aaron Rodgers. Alan Lazard's contracts a little pricey for me. If I could move off that, I would Aron Smith, that's done already have a left tackle.

Okay, let's let's let's let's talk about he's the best available guy in the market, So let's move off Aaron Rodgers. Alan Lazard's contracts a little pricey for me. If I could move off that, I would Aron Smith, that's done already have a left tackle.

We hope he got injured, the kid from Penn State.

We hope he got injured, the kid from Penn State.

By the way, I don't have the Jets picks in front of me. Do they have all of them? I think they have all.

By the way, I don't have the Jets picks in front of me. Do they have all of them? I think they have all.

They definitely have their first round pick, DeVante Adams, I assume is out.

They definitely have their first round pick, DeVante Adams, I assume is out.

The door with Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, the Jets don't have It's not a great quarterback class, so they don't have an immediate need.

The door with Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, the Jets don't have It's not a great quarterback class, so they don't have an immediate need.

So Colin, the real problem with the Jets is their window was last year. Now you're on the cusp Reyce Hall, who underwhelmed last year, gonna be looking for.

So Colin, the real problem with the Jets is their window was last year. Now you're on the cusp Reyce Hall, who underwhelmed last year, gonna be looking for.

A contract soon.

A contract soon.

He's gonna show out.

He's gonna show out.

Garrett Wilson, he wants a contract. Sauce Gardner. Now, they're not up.

Garrett Wilson, he wants a contract. Sauce Gardner. Now, they're not up.

Yet, but the window is shrinking before you have to pay all these young, talented guys that are on the roster.

Yet, but the window is shrinking before you have to pay all these young, talented guys that are on the roster.

So and without a quarterback, I just don't see any reason.

So and without a quarterback, I just don't see any reason.

On Aaron Positive. Aaron had a good seven of his last eight weeks. He's not the future. He is fifteenth best quarterback in the league. Okay, that's fine. I don't All I'm gonna say is this of the coaching vacancies. New England doesn't have this roster. Saints don't have this roster, and the Saints have cap Hell coming up. This team has some space. They do have a quarterback who played well down the stretch. They've got they have six elite players, all right. Let me Gwenn Williams, Sauce Gardner, the young linebacker they like. I think Brice Hall, Garrett Wilson, Davonte Adams, and the tight end from Penn State's going to be elite this year with the left tackle from Yes left my back, so Colin here, here's the thing.

On Aaron Positive. Aaron had a good seven of his last eight weeks. He's not the future. He is fifteenth best quarterback in the league. Okay, that's fine. I don't All I'm gonna say is this of the coaching vacancies. New England doesn't have this roster. Saints don't have this roster, and the Saints have cap Hell coming up. This team has some space. They do have a quarterback who played well down the stretch. They've got they have six elite players, all right. Let me Gwenn Williams, Sauce Gardner, the young linebacker they like. I think Brice Hall, Garrett Wilson, Davonte Adams, and the tight end from Penn State's going to be elite this year with the left tackle from Yes left my back, so Colin here, here's the thing.

Without a quarterback, you really don't have much. The last time that when they hired Rex Ryan as head coach. They traded up and got Mark Sanchez and they went to back to back AFC Championship games.

Without a quarterback, you really don't have much. The last time that when they hired Rex Ryan as head coach. They traded up and got Mark Sanchez and they went to back to back AFC Championship games.

Is there a.

Is there a.

World where the Jets can dangle something to the Titans and go up and get cam Ward.

World where the Jets can dangle something to the Titans and go up and get cam Ward.

I'm willing to move off, soft Gardner.

I'm willing to move off, soft Gardner.

Now I'm waning to move off, Garrett. Let me say this. Let me throw this out there, is that the Jets. Also the good thing about having the number seven pick is you have that pick at the top up of every round, so it's a so remember so Ryan, by the way, do the Jets have a second round pick?

Now I'm waning to move off, Garrett. Let me say this. Let me throw this out there, is that the Jets. Also the good thing about having the number seven pick is you have that pick at the top up of every round, so it's a so remember so Ryan, by the way, do the Jets have a second round pick?

I believe they do. I think it was Okay, last year they lost it.

I believe they do. I think it was Okay, last year they lost it.

Okay, Roger, I'm gonna make a prediction that the Jets try to move down from the number seven spot. They won't have a ton of success doing that. Okay. It says they have a round two pick or a third conditional raider. So I don't know what they have this morning, but they have a third, fourth, three, two, five, two six. Who do you want? Don't tell me, I'll tell you right now. If if I ran the Jets number one, I would move down with a seven pick. I don't think if they had the four they could, I don't think they can at seven. So they're gonna go out, you know what, They're gonna go out and get. They're probably gonna go out and get I would guess. I don't think he'll be available now, team act the receiver won't be available. Okay, let me throw it out here. I'll throw it down. Mason Graham, who I think is the third best player in the draft them defensive tackle, is going to be in that six, seven eight spot. He will start Day one and be an impact player. I think they'd move down. But if they could get Mason Graham, I would take.