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It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. You can find us as always on the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. On this Monday, in which people have opened up the offices of Bitch and Mode to discuss what the f that was that the NBA rolled out during All Star weekend.

It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. You can find us as always on the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. On this Monday, in which people have opened up the offices of Bitch and Mode to discuss what the f that was that the NBA rolled out during All Star weekend.

They was tweaking. I mean I was tweaking on NBA All Star weekends. It's just you know, people not real much, not real thrilled with you.

They was tweaking. I mean I was tweaking on NBA All Star weekends. It's just you know, people not real much, not real thrilled with you.

Yeah, the current format or whatever this this format was.

Yeah, the current format or whatever this this format was.

This past weekend.

This past weekend.

You had a dunk contest featuring a guy who's played you know, fourteen seconds in the NBA Win it again. You had whatever, this rinky dink circus tent pop up event that was supposed to be the All Star Game show back up, and people are not happy about it and are not thrilled with the content and the viewing experience.

You had a dunk contest featuring a guy who's played you know, fourteen seconds in the NBA Win it again. You had whatever, this rinky dink circus tent pop up event that was supposed to be the All Star Game show back up, and people are not happy about it and are not thrilled with the content and the viewing experience.

That they got bar over the All Star weekend. I mean I was thrilled because I didn't have an experience because I didn't view it.

That they got bar over the All Star weekend. I mean I was thrilled because I didn't have an experience because I didn't view it.

Dan, If you want me to break down who had the best dunk of the night on Saturday.

Dan, If you want me to break down who had the best dunk of the night on Saturday.

I watched it. I watched the highlights of it all. But to watch all of it, you know why it doesn't have that type of mass app because, let me tell you something, them dunks were crazy good. They're crazy good dunks, man, And that used to be the highlight of somewhat of an NBA season. That was what you wanted, you waited for. You were excited, who's going to be in the dunk contest? Who's doing it this year? And you wouldn't learn, like you said, somebody who doesn't even play very many minutes. You would learn about new people and they would become celebrities. I'll never forget when Kenny Skywalker won the dunk contest doing like like aero dynamic, like acrobatic, like you know, like a ballet. He was doing ballet in the air when he was dunking, like Kenny's Skywalker wasn't like a dope basketball player for the Knicks, but we found out, we learned about who he was because of the way he was dunking like. It just built a lot of It built a lot of brands in the NBA back in the day, like in the late you know, mid eighties, early nineties, you know, nineties, like it was All Star Weekend was a thing. And I think I think the NBA is suffering from the same exact thing that the NFL is suffering from as it applies to their All Star weekend, which is what is the relevance of these weekends? What can you do to make these weekends more relevant than what they are? And I don't. I think it's because of technology and all of these different things that's going on, fast paced technology. I think it's very it is a riddle that the NFL or the NBA has yet to figure out.

I watched it. I watched the highlights of it all. But to watch all of it, you know why it doesn't have that type of mass app because, let me tell you something, them dunks were crazy good. They're crazy good dunks, man, And that used to be the highlight of somewhat of an NBA season. That was what you wanted, you waited for. You were excited, who's going to be in the dunk contest? Who's doing it this year? And you wouldn't learn, like you said, somebody who doesn't even play very many minutes. You would learn about new people and they would become celebrities. I'll never forget when Kenny Skywalker won the dunk contest doing like like aero dynamic, like acrobatic, like you know, like a ballet. He was doing ballet in the air when he was dunking, like Kenny's Skywalker wasn't like a dope basketball player for the Knicks, but we found out, we learned about who he was because of the way he was dunking like. It just built a lot of It built a lot of brands in the NBA back in the day, like in the late you know, mid eighties, early nineties, you know, nineties, like it was All Star Weekend was a thing. And I think I think the NBA is suffering from the same exact thing that the NFL is suffering from as it applies to their All Star weekend, which is what is the relevance of these weekends? What can you do to make these weekends more relevant than what they are? And I don't. I think it's because of technology and all of these different things that's going on, fast paced technology. I think it's very it is a riddle that the NFL or the NBA has yet to figure out.

So the way they laid it out was, it's four different teams. You had rising stars, you had just like whatever if the TNT crew had their teams, and to break down the different categories and they would all meet up and then they would go into the final just team Shack, Kenny Chuck, Candae Park like all that stuff. It was just a fiasco, like there's just there's there's too much going on. It was not all that entertaining. It wasn't funny. Like they tried their hardest to try and add comedy to it. It wasn't funny. And so Draymond Green, who is you know, slowly becoming better and better and better, and his media career after he's done play, it's already blossoming. After his career is over, He's going to be, you know, sitting with you know, the the great medium, the great former players to ever do it post career when it comes to the media. He spoke last night on TNT and gave a brutally honest critique of this new format.

So the way they laid it out was, it's four different teams. You had rising stars, you had just like whatever if the TNT crew had their teams, and to break down the different categories and they would all meet up and then they would go into the final just team Shack, Kenny Chuck, Candae Park like all that stuff. It was just a fiasco, like there's just there's there's too much going on. It was not all that entertaining. It wasn't funny. Like they tried their hardest to try and add comedy to it. It wasn't funny. And so Draymond Green, who is you know, slowly becoming better and better and better, and his media career after he's done play, it's already blossoming. After his career is over, He's going to be, you know, sitting with you know, the the great medium, the great former players to ever do it post career when it comes to the media. He spoke last night on TNT and gave a brutally honest critique of this new format.

You work all.

You work all.

Year to be an All Star and you get to play up to forty and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Winbyama, who just took this game really seriously, Chake Gilges Alexander who just took this game really seriously.

Year to be an All Star and you get to play up to forty and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Winbyama, who just took this game really seriously, Chake Gilges Alexander who just took this game really seriously.

When you talk about chasing out to the.

When you talk about chasing out to the.

Points, Wreckers, mellow with Kobe and all these guys who've had great scoring nice, they don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. Also, we can watch some rising stars. We're about to watch that Olympic team. Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team play I against the U nineteen team.

Points, Wreckers, mellow with Kobe and all these guys who've had great scoring nice, they don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. Also, we can watch some rising stars. We're about to watch that Olympic team. Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team play I against the U nineteen team.

Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten? Your thoughts of the format? Ten band the best? Yes, let's zero sucks.

Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten? Your thoughts of the format? Ten band the best? Yes, let's zero sucks.

And that's a fair honest assessment. You know what, I think the real problem is with the NBA. I think the problem is the timing of it all. That why would you have because listen, you mentioned the NFL All All Star games minus Major League Baseball are awful.

And that's a fair honest assessment. You know what, I think the real problem is with the NBA. I think the problem is the timing of it all. That why would you have because listen, you mentioned the NFL All All Star games minus Major League Baseball are awful.

They're awful like the.

They're awful like the.

Pro Bowl looks like, you know, an airing of Double Dare from twenty years ago. It's like you're waiting for some guy to slide down a chocolate slide and pull a flag out of the nose.

Pro Bowl looks like, you know, an airing of Double Dare from twenty years ago. It's like you're waiting for some guy to slide down a chocolate slide and pull a flag out of the nose.

Like it's awful.

Like it's awful.

Like whatever they've they've thought they were doing to try and protect players in the Pro Bowl, it's terrible. It's not so much that the All Star Game sucks, it's the timing of it all. The NFL season just ended, there are people that are looking for things to watch, and the NBA throws out this instead of Hey, why don't we maybe do the All Star Game? I don't know, like do it the same weekend of the Pro Bowl? Do it earlier, Like let's let's let's move it up earlier, so that that way, when the NFL season is over, we're putting on primetime marquee matchups. You want to throw Celtics Thunder on because they're two of the best teams in the league, that's fine. You want to throw the Lakers with Luke on, but do that and present your product timing wise, in a better imagine. If you're an NBA fan and you're like, all right, I'm gonna give this NFL a try, and the first thing you see is the Pro Bowl should be looking around and go.

Like whatever they've they've thought they were doing to try and protect players in the Pro Bowl, it's terrible. It's not so much that the All Star Game sucks, it's the timing of it all. The NFL season just ended, there are people that are looking for things to watch, and the NBA throws out this instead of Hey, why don't we maybe do the All Star Game? I don't know, like do it the same weekend of the Pro Bowl? Do it earlier, Like let's let's let's move it up earlier, so that that way, when the NFL season is over, we're putting on primetime marquee matchups. You want to throw Celtics Thunder on because they're two of the best teams in the league, that's fine. You want to throw the Lakers with Luke on, but do that and present your product timing wise, in a better imagine. If you're an NBA fan and you're like, all right, I'm gonna give this NFL a try, and the first thing you see is the Pro Bowl should be looking around and go.

What the theF is this?

What the theF is this?

If you're the NBA, I don't know why they refuse to counter program. I don't know why they refuse to acknowledge you're not even the second most popular sport anymore. You're third behind college football. Why don't you like adjust your timing We've talked about, you know, start the season on Christmas Day and move it back so you're not competing with the NFL during and college football in the World Series and made all the other stuff that goes on in the fall. Move your season back. In this case, this feels like an easy fix. Just have your All Star game sooner, whatever you want to roll out, But the first weekend out of the gate with no football, this is the product you present it. It doesn't make any sense to me because it's an awful watch. And now all the conversation is about, man, the league is broken. It needs to do this, it needs to do that. Instead of we could be talking about great games, great matchups, like make it a mar Que moment to where NFL season's over, We'll take it from here, and instead they rolled out crap.

If you're the NBA, I don't know why they refuse to counter program. I don't know why they refuse to acknowledge you're not even the second most popular sport anymore. You're third behind college football. Why don't you like adjust your timing We've talked about, you know, start the season on Christmas Day and move it back so you're not competing with the NFL during and college football in the World Series and made all the other stuff that goes on in the fall. Move your season back. In this case, this feels like an easy fix. Just have your All Star game sooner, whatever you want to roll out, But the first weekend out of the gate with no football, this is the product you present it. It doesn't make any sense to me because it's an awful watch. And now all the conversation is about, man, the league is broken. It needs to do this, it needs to do that. Instead of we could be talking about great games, great matchups, like make it a mar Que moment to where NFL season's over, We'll take it from here, and instead they rolled out crap.

Well this again, I'll say the saddest part of the commentary outside of it being true, is is that the Dunks were phenomenal. They weren't just good, they were phenomenal, and nobody cared. You know who cared? The people who are probably upset right now that I said nobody cared, And that's like the niche portion of basketball fanatics. You have some basketball purists who love to judge anybody who doesn't, which you had that in every sport, but those are the people who care. What I don't understand is, again, how do you allow for such a disconnect to take place on something that has been such a major part of our American culture to slip into non relevance. I just don't get it. Like the three point contest, people like watching it. That's something that people will watch. It was something that it mattered. But no mistake about it. You enjoyed the game because you knew in the second half they were all going to play and they were gonna play hard, and they were gonna want to win the game, and the dunk contests like that's what it was. And I just I asked myself when when I when we were coming into the topic, I asked myself, is this just a symptom of me? Like old heads are always the ones that say, oh, it was so much better when when I was coming up, it was it was so different. Dah da da these days and you guys, you young young bucks, don't know anything about you know what it's all about? This that is so different now? Am I am? I? Like I gotta take a step back and say, am I coming at it from the wrong lens from the wrong perspective, and I looked. I looked a social media because social media can now give you an idea of how you're feeling and what the algorithms are, and because if it's something that's something, it's gonna be there, it's gonna pop up, it's gonna like you're making fun of Jello, You're making fun You're making fun of his song. That's one of the highlights of the whole deal is making fun of Jello being being the main that's your main performer. What's there to make fun of one one song? Like it's not even like the dude got an album out, Like the dude has one song that they may go viral and it's not even really a real performer. Like I'm sitting there, I'm like, you did not need all this gimmicky stuff. And it made me take a step back and say to myself, are we now looking at an NBA that is a personality less NBA. That's what it made my ultimate my ultimate thought and my conclusion was do we have an NBA now, Like do you know the personality of Victor Winban wim bin Yama? Do you know his personality? Uh?

Well this again, I'll say the saddest part of the commentary outside of it being true, is is that the Dunks were phenomenal. They weren't just good, they were phenomenal, and nobody cared. You know who cared? The people who are probably upset right now that I said nobody cared, And that's like the niche portion of basketball fanatics. You have some basketball purists who love to judge anybody who doesn't, which you had that in every sport, but those are the people who care. What I don't understand is, again, how do you allow for such a disconnect to take place on something that has been such a major part of our American culture to slip into non relevance. I just don't get it. Like the three point contest, people like watching it. That's something that people will watch. It was something that it mattered. But no mistake about it. You enjoyed the game because you knew in the second half they were all going to play and they were gonna play hard, and they were gonna want to win the game, and the dunk contests like that's what it was. And I just I asked myself when when I when we were coming into the topic, I asked myself, is this just a symptom of me? Like old heads are always the ones that say, oh, it was so much better when when I was coming up, it was it was so different. Dah da da these days and you guys, you young young bucks, don't know anything about you know what it's all about? This that is so different now? Am I am? I? Like I gotta take a step back and say, am I coming at it from the wrong lens from the wrong perspective, and I looked. I looked a social media because social media can now give you an idea of how you're feeling and what the algorithms are, and because if it's something that's something, it's gonna be there, it's gonna pop up, it's gonna like you're making fun of Jello, You're making fun You're making fun of his song. That's one of the highlights of the whole deal is making fun of Jello being being the main that's your main performer. What's there to make fun of one one song? Like it's not even like the dude got an album out, Like the dude has one song that they may go viral and it's not even really a real performer. Like I'm sitting there, I'm like, you did not need all this gimmicky stuff. And it made me take a step back and say to myself, are we now looking at an NBA that is a personality less NBA. That's what it made my ultimate my ultimate thought and my conclusion was do we have an NBA now, Like do you know the personality of Victor Winban wim bin Yama? Do you know his personality? Uh?

Yeah, well he reads books before games, which do you know his personality?

Yeah, well he reads books before games, which do you know his personality?

You know, you know why we like Anthony ant Man so much because it's the first time we get a pulse of somebody having a freaking personality that You know why we like Draymond Green because we get a pulse of what a person? Do you know who Draymond Green is? Do you know how he is? Sure exactly exactly Steph Steph Curry, relatively obscure. You know he could shoot the ball. You know he's a good dude, does things in the community. You know his why, But do we really know his personality? You have those type of personalities from back in the day, but it's like they're like not, they're not the A list group of celebrities. That's you knew who Michael Jordan was. In fact, Michael Jordan told all of us to come fly with him, and every one of us stopped. We could fly, And that's why we still be wearing this I got. I don't have no Jordan's on today, but I had some on yesterday. I had some on yesterday, and I'd be damn if I don't have Jordan's on more often than it. Right. Bottom line A New Ballads. We knew who Dominique Wilkins was, and we were all trying to beat the Human Highlight film. We all were. You knew whose foot, what it was. He was the more quiet one. He was like that quiet one. But you had so many personalities. Charles Barkley telling you to f off. I'm not your your role model, I'm not your kid's role model. I'm not your role model. I think what has happened with the NBA more specifically, which you shouldn't lose because they don't wear helmets. You don't have to battle people not knowing who you are and what you look like. You're six foot whatever, looking like an avatar. You gotta have. There has to be more more established personalities like throwing guns up in the club, throwing one's strippers, like you can't have John Morant, who is one of your biggest names and dopest players. That's how we know you, that's how we know you. Like that's Jason Williams back in the day and he's like the degenerate of all the superstars. But even then you knew who Jason Williams was. Personality was because it was a point to make sure that the personalities were getting consumed by the consumer. You're selling the game. We know who Lebron James is. We know his personality, we know who he is. He drives it because his personality and us knowing him, us going on this NBA journey with Lebron makes sense. How many players in today's NBA can we say that about when you could say that about each team, each team. If you were a Pistons fan, it was Vinnie the Microwave, it was Isaiah Thomas, it was Joe Dumars, it was Rick Mahorn, and you knew who they were because they had They all had Bill Lambert. They all had their their personalities that you love that made them the bad boys. If it was the New York Knicks, from Oakley to Mason to Ewing to Starts to Mark Jackson, you knew who these people were by market and their personalities drove the game, and they mattered from the Celtics to you name it, the Rockets, they all had their different personalities. The Portland Trailblazers, the Indiana Pacers, sitting there choking that Reggie, Reggie Miller. We got to know Reggie Miller. He's sitting there choking himself out to Spike Lee. There were so many great moments that built a relationship between the players, the teams, and the fans. It's unrecognizable. You don't have that. I mean, am I off on this? Do we? There's that's a disconnect. That's a disconnect like, what's what is the connection to the player, what is the connection to the players as in general, and what's the connection to the team. Where has that gone? Because I think in a way, largely in part because of fantasy football and all this stuff going on with gambling, I think it's decentralized football as well. I think that's a large part of the problem that we have in football at this point now as well, is that decentralizing of what the fan could really focus in on, in that connection to the player and that connection to the team. I think it's been I think it's been removed. Well, I mean, the good news is the All Star Weekend's over, So there you go. Hopefully this is the last time we got talked about it. At least at least there's that.

You know, you know why we like Anthony ant Man so much because it's the first time we get a pulse of somebody having a freaking personality that You know why we like Draymond Green because we get a pulse of what a person? Do you know who Draymond Green is? Do you know how he is? Sure exactly exactly Steph Steph Curry, relatively obscure. You know he could shoot the ball. You know he's a good dude, does things in the community. You know his why, But do we really know his personality? You have those type of personalities from back in the day, but it's like they're like not, they're not the A list group of celebrities. That's you knew who Michael Jordan was. In fact, Michael Jordan told all of us to come fly with him, and every one of us stopped. We could fly, And that's why we still be wearing this I got. I don't have no Jordan's on today, but I had some on yesterday. I had some on yesterday, and I'd be damn if I don't have Jordan's on more often than it. Right. Bottom line A New Ballads. We knew who Dominique Wilkins was, and we were all trying to beat the Human Highlight film. We all were. You knew whose foot, what it was. He was the more quiet one. He was like that quiet one. But you had so many personalities. Charles Barkley telling you to f off. I'm not your your role model, I'm not your kid's role model. I'm not your role model. I think what has happened with the NBA more specifically, which you shouldn't lose because they don't wear helmets. You don't have to battle people not knowing who you are and what you look like. You're six foot whatever, looking like an avatar. You gotta have. There has to be more more established personalities like throwing guns up in the club, throwing one's strippers, like you can't have John Morant, who is one of your biggest names and dopest players. That's how we know you, that's how we know you. Like that's Jason Williams back in the day and he's like the degenerate of all the superstars. But even then you knew who Jason Williams was. Personality was because it was a point to make sure that the personalities were getting consumed by the consumer. You're selling the game. We know who Lebron James is. We know his personality, we know who he is. He drives it because his personality and us knowing him, us going on this NBA journey with Lebron makes sense. How many players in today's NBA can we say that about when you could say that about each team, each team. If you were a Pistons fan, it was Vinnie the Microwave, it was Isaiah Thomas, it was Joe Dumars, it was Rick Mahorn, and you knew who they were because they had They all had Bill Lambert. They all had their their personalities that you love that made them the bad boys. If it was the New York Knicks, from Oakley to Mason to Ewing to Starts to Mark Jackson, you knew who these people were by market and their personalities drove the game, and they mattered from the Celtics to you name it, the Rockets, they all had their different personalities. The Portland Trailblazers, the Indiana Pacers, sitting there choking that Reggie, Reggie Miller. We got to know Reggie Miller. He's sitting there choking himself out to Spike Lee. There were so many great moments that built a relationship between the players, the teams, and the fans. It's unrecognizable. You don't have that. I mean, am I off on this? Do we? There's that's a disconnect. That's a disconnect like, what's what is the connection to the player, what is the connection to the players as in general, and what's the connection to the team. Where has that gone? Because I think in a way, largely in part because of fantasy football and all this stuff going on with gambling, I think it's decentralized football as well. I think that's a large part of the problem that we have in football at this point now as well, is that decentralizing of what the fan could really focus in on, in that connection to the player and that connection to the team. I think it's been I think it's been removed. Well, I mean, the good news is the All Star Weekend's over, So there you go. Hopefully this is the last time we got talked about it. At least at least there's that.

So so if you're not a fan of the All Star Weekend, congratulations, it's Monday.

So so if you're not a fan of the All Star Weekend, congratulations, it's Monday.

It's over.

It's over.

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Coming up next though, we've got some more details as to why one move was made in the NFL, and it is really getting juicy. Somebody really trying to get their side of the story out there. You'll hear those that's next.

Coming up next though, we've got some more details as to why one move was made in the NFL, and it is really getting juicy. Somebody really trying to get their side of the story out there. You'll hear those that's next.

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We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. The fact that we've been friends for the last twenty years and still work together. I mean that says something, right, So check us out. We like to get you involved too, take your phone calls, chop it up. As they say, I'd say, the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planetar. Be sure to check out Cavino and Rich live on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app from five to seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific, And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covin on Rich wherever you get your podcasts, and of course on social media.

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From now, and the headline news.

From now, and the headline news.

We are going to talk about what the future of the NFL could look like, and it's involving somebody who might have had a little too much to drink, So we will get into that for you again a little hard. Twenty minutes from now no, no Lee, oh no Brady? Oh just you and I yeah, man, yeah, just grinding you and me, Greag two week Chris Purfetts here eh yeah, yeah, yay on a holiday, just grinding away here, if you got to grind it, all right, So here we go. This is god, this is so much fun. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are no longer together? All right, they broke up.

We are going to talk about what the future of the NFL could look like, and it's involving somebody who might have had a little too much to drink, So we will get into that for you again a little hard. Twenty minutes from now no, no Lee, oh no Brady? Oh just you and I yeah, man, yeah, just grinding you and me, Greag two week Chris Purfetts here eh yeah, yeah, yay on a holiday, just grinding away here, if you got to grind it, all right, So here we go. This is god, this is so much fun. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are no longer together? All right, they broke up.

All right.

All right.

We're gonna treat this like it's, you know, a celebrity breakup. They're no longer together. Oh Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

We're gonna treat this like it's, you know, a celebrity breakup. They're no longer together. Oh Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

Yeah, believe it or not. Now were they together now? Or did they track?

Yeah, believe it or not. Now were they together now? Or did they track?

There's some fun developments on this. Albert Breer of our buddy who comes on with us every week on two pros and a cup of Joe, He said the following in his MMQB column quote. The reality was that the Jets desire to move on was about them and not rogers and timelines that don't match up. New York was looking at a deliberate reimagination of its football operation, which was going to be tough to marry up with a quarterback playing for this year alone. There was no ultimatum on discussing Aaron's outside media appearances, but there was a disc ushion about it, so that from Albert Breer, who just kind of said, listen, you know, this whole thought that I think the athletic came out with that he can't do the Pat McAfee show, and they were trying to, you know, set some rules and.

There's some fun developments on this. Albert Breer of our buddy who comes on with us every week on two pros and a cup of Joe, He said the following in his MMQB column quote. The reality was that the Jets desire to move on was about them and not rogers and timelines that don't match up. New York was looking at a deliberate reimagination of its football operation, which was going to be tough to marry up with a quarterback playing for this year alone. There was no ultimatum on discussing Aaron's outside media appearances, but there was a disc ushion about it, so that from Albert Breer, who just kind of said, listen, you know, this whole thought that I think the athletic came out with that he can't do the Pat McAfee show, and they were trying to, you know, set some rules and.

All that was propaganda.

All that was propaganda.

Not exactly the exact played out, but this is why this is hilarious. Talk about Steve Helling. And Ryan Dunlevy of The New York of New York Posts reported that Rogers quote pleaded with the Jets to keep him, and that in the final conversation with the team's new regime, he quote aggressively urged the franchise to give him another year or even two. In the end, he reportedly accepted the decision quote like a man going.

Not exactly the exact played out, but this is why this is hilarious. Talk about Steve Helling. And Ryan Dunlevy of The New York of New York Posts reported that Rogers quote pleaded with the Jets to keep him, and that in the final conversation with the team's new regime, he quote aggressively urged the franchise to give him another year or even two. In the end, he reportedly accepted the decision quote like a man going.

To the gallows dot dot dot.

To the gallows dot dot dot.

What a bunch of men, what a bunch of craft sports. It's just it's so bad. But what it does do is illustrate the point that Aaron Rodgers was right the entire time, because he told everybody there's too many leaks in the organization, There's too much of this stuff going on. He's been out the door for twenty minutes, and already you've got three different reports about what happened and what transpired, none of which have come from him.

What a bunch of men, what a bunch of craft sports. It's just it's so bad. But what it does do is illustrate the point that Aaron Rodgers was right the entire time, because he told everybody there's too many leaks in the organization, There's too much of this stuff going on. He's been out the door for twenty minutes, and already you've got three different reports about what happened and what transpired, none of which have come from him.

All from the jets that you know of who you.

All from the jets that you know of who you.

Think he's gonna portray himself as walking to the gallows within the opposed No, but but the idea of putting something out there to make him more of a sympathetic figure could be a form of subterfuse for him.

Think he's gonna portray himself as walking to the gallows within the opposed No, but but the idea of putting something out there to make him more of a sympathetic figure could be a form of subterfuse for him.

That organization is a diaper fire, and I think that's what it also ultimately comes down to, is whether some of it was rogers or not, you're still looking at an organization that that runs it in a toxic manner. And I always reference back I lived in it, I worked in it, and I understand what that type of environment does to the players, to the people that work in the building, from the people who clean up the locker rooms, to who takes care of the field, to the reception that's at the front, to the media department, to the scouting department, to the sales department, advertising, you name it. Toxic is toxic, and it becomes a part of the entire culture of what you have going on operationally speaking, and without knowing very much about the New York Jets and having been through their doors, I can just tell you the things that you see, the things that you hear that come from that organization internally totally illustrates what dysfunction and what toxic looks like. It's like the epitome of what it would be like if you say it, here's the definition of what toxic or what dysfunctional looks like. It would have the New York Jets as an example. And listen, I'm sorry if you're a New York Jets fan and that offends you, but the reality of it is is that you, guys ultimately become a part of that dysfunction too. You ultimately become a product of the culture as well as fans because you are living through these moments that get leaked out and get and get pushed out by by the New York media. And the New York media has always had what I would say a fun time with taking the stories and the leaks and the information that they get and putting it in their periodicals or or reporting on it. I mean Francessa, Mike, Mike, Mike, Francessa, Francessa, I mean he can talk twenty hours about what's going on just in New York sports if he wanted to. I've been in the I've been in the studio and have had an opportunity to listen to him and how he's able to talk about New York sports and what's going on. It is a part of the coulture. And if you don't have a solid sound way of how you handle your business internally with your sports organization, it will ultimately become what you are. And that's what you see. Hell, that's what you're saying with the New York Giants right now. And I would have never thought that you would say that. From my time there, it seemed like it was a very well organized, very well structured group by the Mirror and the Tish family that it seemed like they did just an amazing job. But it even seems like they have now fallen victim to the same exact toxic uh not operating out a high level dysfunctional organization. It's the New York teams period right now.

That organization is a diaper fire, and I think that's what it also ultimately comes down to, is whether some of it was rogers or not, you're still looking at an organization that that runs it in a toxic manner. And I always reference back I lived in it, I worked in it, and I understand what that type of environment does to the players, to the people that work in the building, from the people who clean up the locker rooms, to who takes care of the field, to the reception that's at the front, to the media department, to the scouting department, to the sales department, advertising, you name it. Toxic is toxic, and it becomes a part of the entire culture of what you have going on operationally speaking, and without knowing very much about the New York Jets and having been through their doors, I can just tell you the things that you see, the things that you hear that come from that organization internally totally illustrates what dysfunction and what toxic looks like. It's like the epitome of what it would be like if you say it, here's the definition of what toxic or what dysfunctional looks like. It would have the New York Jets as an example. And listen, I'm sorry if you're a New York Jets fan and that offends you, but the reality of it is is that you, guys ultimately become a part of that dysfunction too. You ultimately become a product of the culture as well as fans because you are living through these moments that get leaked out and get and get pushed out by by the New York media. And the New York media has always had what I would say a fun time with taking the stories and the leaks and the information that they get and putting it in their periodicals or or reporting on it. I mean Francessa, Mike, Mike, Mike, Francessa, Francessa, I mean he can talk twenty hours about what's going on just in New York sports if he wanted to. I've been in the I've been in the studio and have had an opportunity to listen to him and how he's able to talk about New York sports and what's going on. It is a part of the coulture. And if you don't have a solid sound way of how you handle your business internally with your sports organization, it will ultimately become what you are. And that's what you see. Hell, that's what you're saying with the New York Giants right now. And I would have never thought that you would say that. From my time there, it seemed like it was a very well organized, very well structured group by the Mirror and the Tish family that it seemed like they did just an amazing job. But it even seems like they have now fallen victim to the same exact toxic uh not operating out a high level dysfunctional organization. It's the New York teams period right now.

In football, So like for the Jimmy Butler Miami Heat situation, that that was toxic towards the end, because I mean, you know, these reports about he left, you know, left him on the tarmac. He wasn't showing up. He didn't get a lot, like just one out of there. But when it was over, he said, I got nothing but respect for the organization.

In football, So like for the Jimmy Butler Miami Heat situation, that that was toxic towards the end, because I mean, you know, these reports about he left, you know, left him on the tarmac. He wasn't showing up. He didn't get a lot, like just one out of there. But when it was over, he said, I got nothing but respect for the organization.

And it was done.

And it was done.

We were gone like that, like it was over. He went his way. That's fine, he listen, didn't work out. You have fun in me at Golden State. You know, we're going to do our thing all as well. Like the Jets, just can't let it go like this, it's over. You're moving on, like you've you've made the decision, you've gotten out there that you want to move on from Aaron Rodgers that the timeline's don't add up all as well. Yet every day a new detail comes out.

We were gone like that, like it was over. He went his way. That's fine, he listen, didn't work out. You have fun in me at Golden State. You know, we're going to do our thing all as well. Like the Jets, just can't let it go like this, it's over. You're moving on, like you've you've made the decision, you've gotten out there that you want to move on from Aaron Rodgers that the timeline's don't add up all as well. Yet every day a new detail comes out.

Why for what Because it's New York. It's because it's I'm telling you it's because it's New York.

Why for what Because it's New York. It's because it's I'm telling you it's because it's New York.

Trade for Justin Tucker. Okay, Like if you want content, I make a move.

Trade for Justin Tucker. Okay, Like if you want content, I make a move.

They got enough of them. Massage parlors. Yeah, they do red open side. Okay, I look for I was told just look for the red open sign for massages and that's the place and they and they probably keep better secrets.

They got enough of them. Massage parlors. Yeah, they do red open side. Okay, I look for I was told just look for the red open sign for massages and that's the place and they and they probably keep better secrets.

Like I'm just like you know, like if you're looking for if that's what you want it to be like, and it feels different than we talk about the Cowboys and Jerry Jones and you know, he's all, you know what, loves the drama and loves to be you know, have the team out there. But it feels different because like with Jerry Jones, like you know, like what you know, this is about a business, the Jets. It's just about drama. Like we just got to get our story out, like we gotta we gotta get this out and that. And so when the discussion becomes, hey, what's going to happen next for both sides? Where's Rogers? And uh, you know, like the different teams that are out there that are being rumored to be interested in him.

Like I'm just like you know, like if you're looking for if that's what you want it to be like, and it feels different than we talk about the Cowboys and Jerry Jones and you know, he's all, you know what, loves the drama and loves to be you know, have the team out there. But it feels different because like with Jerry Jones, like you know, like what you know, this is about a business, the Jets. It's just about drama. Like we just got to get our story out, like we gotta we gotta get this out and that. And so when the discussion becomes, hey, what's going to happen next for both sides? Where's Rogers? And uh, you know, like the different teams that are out there that are being rumored to be interested in him.

I mean that becomes the story, right, well, that should be what becomes the story.

I mean that becomes the story, right, well, that should be what becomes the story.

And the reason that becomes the story is because there's not a person walking the face of the earth. I don't care if you're fireman ed, I don't care if you're some mechanic in Brooklyn, I don't care who you are. That's a diehard Jets fan. There's not a Jets fan walking the planet who has any confidence it's that this organization is going to be able to figure it out a at quarterback and B roster wise, to get back to the playoffs or get back to some sort of relevancy. It's not happening, like nobody should feel any confidence in it. And especially after well, we got rid of the old regime. We got rid of our GM and our head coach and our quarterback. We got a brand new coach, brand new GM. We are back. You just got rid of your quarterback. And instead of hearing about what the plan is for them possible yes, and.

And the reason that becomes the story is because there's not a person walking the face of the earth. I don't care if you're fireman ed, I don't care if you're some mechanic in Brooklyn, I don't care who you are. That's a diehard Jets fan. There's not a Jets fan walking the planet who has any confidence it's that this organization is going to be able to figure it out a at quarterback and B roster wise, to get back to the playoffs or get back to some sort of relevancy. It's not happening, like nobody should feel any confidence in it. And especially after well, we got rid of the old regime. We got rid of our GM and our head coach and our quarterback. We got a brand new coach, brand new GM. We are back. You just got rid of your quarterback. And instead of hearing about what the plan is for them possible yes, and.

Throwing dirt on on a dead hurt, it's over.

Throwing dirt on on a dead hurt, it's over.

It's done, Like the coffin. It's in the ground. They're shoveling dirt on and they're and they're trying to open it, pry it back open and get one last lick in like the body's cold and they want to get one more insult in. Oh yeah, you pos like, like no, just close the lid, throw some dirt on it, yes, And they won't. They they've got there's got to run to the media. I gotta get these stories out.

It's done, Like the coffin. It's in the ground. They're shoveling dirt on and they're and they're trying to open it, pry it back open and get one last lick in like the body's cold and they want to get one more insult in. Oh yeah, you pos like, like no, just close the lid, throw some dirt on it, yes, And they won't. They they've got there's got to run to the media. I gotta get these stories out.

And and it's like it's somebody who drives like a super fast car, super loud car, and they like making it rev up and like like get into everybody's like day and interrupt it while they're having a peaceful meal or whatever it may be. Yeah, it's the same type. Right, you're insecure about something. Them dudes in them cars that'd be revenue, they got something wrong with them. But if there's something that is insignificant about it, if I did that with my truck, if I try to have my truck your car, would that it would vanish? Yeah, it would disappear and you would evaporate with it, Like I would just be sitting there holding a steering First off, your your truck would not be capable of making that type of no sound anyway. So but I almost feel like that's a reverse. You're hiding something, Like there's a reverse something wrong with you jailing. It's like you're not getting the brand new one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars car that says hey, hey, look, pay attention to me. You got the the five thousand dollars truck that that says, hey, uh, load up your your tools. We're gonna go, you know, mow some lawns. Look at the backseat handle. We're gonna go handle some plumbing or you know, look at the backseat. It's it's the outfits for a mariachi band, like to the instrument there. I'm just saying, like, but you got equally, you probably have something that you're compensating for as well by under underwhelming yourself with the vehicle that you drive. It's the same thing with this New York Jets organization, same thing probably with the ownership is is that there is a tremendous amount of trying to overcompensate for an in adequacy of something. And maybe it's winning, maybe maybe it's relevance in the sportsphere. I don't know what it is, but they are over compensating and it's like play to hits. You know how you hit you with play Jonas, play the hits. Let's talk about dollars of doubt. Whatever it may be. I think that this is one of those things where they won't get to leverage Aaron rod You know how they get to leverage him again is if Aaron Rodgers went somewhere and did really poorly. I don't think they would try to leverage him. If he went somewhere and did really well. I think Aaron Rodgers would leverage it if he went somewhere and did really well. But that's the only way you get to use Aaron Rodgers again to generate some type of ROI because you've gotten zero in reality of an ROI from bringing in Aaron Rodgers to your organization. They're trying to get their return on investments, so they're going to keep playing the hits. It's fresh into the into the off season. You did do all of those things with all these new people, so basically paint a picture of how fed up it was, so that now you can sit there and say, hey, look at what we did. We are doing things better. We are being a better organization, you know what I mean. Like we're getting Aaron Rodgers up out of here. You know, he's not going to get any more coaches fired. Da Da da Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, your toxic. You did this, like get rid of them, Like okay, there go listen, Aaron.

And and it's like it's somebody who drives like a super fast car, super loud car, and they like making it rev up and like like get into everybody's like day and interrupt it while they're having a peaceful meal or whatever it may be. Yeah, it's the same type. Right, you're insecure about something. Them dudes in them cars that'd be revenue, they got something wrong with them. But if there's something that is insignificant about it, if I did that with my truck, if I try to have my truck your car, would that it would vanish? Yeah, it would disappear and you would evaporate with it, Like I would just be sitting there holding a steering First off, your your truck would not be capable of making that type of no sound anyway. So but I almost feel like that's a reverse. You're hiding something, Like there's a reverse something wrong with you jailing. It's like you're not getting the brand new one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars car that says hey, hey, look, pay attention to me. You got the the five thousand dollars truck that that says, hey, uh, load up your your tools. We're gonna go, you know, mow some lawns. Look at the backseat handle. We're gonna go handle some plumbing or you know, look at the backseat. It's it's the outfits for a mariachi band, like to the instrument there. I'm just saying, like, but you got equally, you probably have something that you're compensating for as well by under underwhelming yourself with the vehicle that you drive. It's the same thing with this New York Jets organization, same thing probably with the ownership is is that there is a tremendous amount of trying to overcompensate for an in adequacy of something. And maybe it's winning, maybe maybe it's relevance in the sportsphere. I don't know what it is, but they are over compensating and it's like play to hits. You know how you hit you with play Jonas, play the hits. Let's talk about dollars of doubt. Whatever it may be. I think that this is one of those things where they won't get to leverage Aaron rod You know how they get to leverage him again is if Aaron Rodgers went somewhere and did really poorly. I don't think they would try to leverage him. If he went somewhere and did really well. I think Aaron Rodgers would leverage it if he went somewhere and did really well. But that's the only way you get to use Aaron Rodgers again to generate some type of ROI because you've gotten zero in reality of an ROI from bringing in Aaron Rodgers to your organization. They're trying to get their return on investments, so they're going to keep playing the hits. It's fresh into the into the off season. You did do all of those things with all these new people, so basically paint a picture of how fed up it was, so that now you can sit there and say, hey, look at what we did. We are doing things better. We are being a better organization, you know what I mean. Like we're getting Aaron Rodgers up out of here. You know, he's not going to get any more coaches fired. Da Da da Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, your toxic. You did this, like get rid of them, Like okay, there go listen, Aaron.

We're really really concerned about you know, if you did come back, what would it look like these weekly media appearances you're doing with the Pat McAfee show. That's our big concern. While we go to the media and multiple times over to let them know that we're telling you not to go to the media or else you It's like, dude, what are you doing?

We're really really concerned about you know, if you did come back, what would it look like these weekly media appearances you're doing with the Pat McAfee show. That's our big concern. While we go to the media and multiple times over to let them know that we're telling you not to go to the media or else you It's like, dude, what are you doing?

Okay, as long as we're doing it. When you do it, you know, it would be like like a drug addict standing outside of fast food place going hey, man, get your life together. Tang excuse you, you've got to You've got a spoon with a lighter and it's noon. I'm having a milkshake and fries both to kill you. Yeah, yes, that's why I use PhD weight line. That's right, what a PhD both to kill you?

Okay, as long as we're doing it. When you do it, you know, it would be like like a drug addict standing outside of fast food place going hey, man, get your life together. Tang excuse you, you've got to You've got a spoon with a lighter and it's noon. I'm having a milkshake and fries both to kill you. Yeah, yes, that's why I use PhD weight line. That's right, what a PhD both to kill you?

Though, I'm just telling you the damn Jets you I'll say this is like a strawberry milkshake yesterday from In and Out.

Though, I'm just telling you the damn Jets you I'll say this is like a strawberry milkshake yesterday from In and Out.

By the way, did you hit the spot? Damn? Yeah. It was better than watching the NBA All Star And it's also better than talking about Aaron Rodgers getting asked on by the Jets, because we already know they they did equal. If you ask me, they did equally. To put us on one another from Aaron Rodgers and how he's handled things to the way the Jets have handled things, it ain't as good as that strawberry milk shit by the way, By the way, if I had a strawberry milkshake, I'd have to throw away my shoes in a half hour. Oh yeah, like tolerant? Are you like those of taller I'm something something I am? I am and I and I was in Penn's music or dance recital yesterday and and I just got to tell you if they had those those like those things they have at at Disney where it monitors you or it has the heat and they can see the gases coming from you. Really you know what I'm talking about. And we talked about that they can kick you out of that or a rush you if you're passing gas. Yeah, they ban you from the park. If you're passing go don't come to a radio studio. Oh well, you shouldn't have been there. Nowhere near me yesterday, nowhere near your boy yesterday. Every time somebody dance, I like, do one of them like movements like I dance with them like it's just like like a little duck come out like run, you know. And it was strawberry milkshake because I'm lactose intolerant, but I really enjoyed it. Laar. You're a trumpet player. I try to make sure it was loud. It was great acoustics in there, so you me, I mean it was good though, you know, outside of representation of the of the product. No, you know, No, I didn't didn't well, I mean the the Jets are success in tolerant, So there's that.

By the way, did you hit the spot? Damn? Yeah. It was better than watching the NBA All Star And it's also better than talking about Aaron Rodgers getting asked on by the Jets, because we already know they they did equal. If you ask me, they did equally. To put us on one another from Aaron Rodgers and how he's handled things to the way the Jets have handled things, it ain't as good as that strawberry milk shit by the way, By the way, if I had a strawberry milkshake, I'd have to throw away my shoes in a half hour. Oh yeah, like tolerant? Are you like those of taller I'm something something I am? I am and I and I was in Penn's music or dance recital yesterday and and I just got to tell you if they had those those like those things they have at at Disney where it monitors you or it has the heat and they can see the gases coming from you. Really you know what I'm talking about. And we talked about that they can kick you out of that or a rush you if you're passing gas. Yeah, they ban you from the park. If you're passing go don't come to a radio studio. Oh well, you shouldn't have been there. Nowhere near me yesterday, nowhere near your boy yesterday. Every time somebody dance, I like, do one of them like movements like I dance with them like it's just like like a little duck come out like run, you know. And it was strawberry milkshake because I'm lactose intolerant, but I really enjoyed it. Laar. You're a trumpet player. I try to make sure it was loud. It was great acoustics in there, so you me, I mean it was good though, you know, outside of representation of the of the product. No, you know, No, I didn't didn't well, I mean the the Jets are success in tolerant, So there's that.

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LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here in for Colin on this Monday. Now, normally we do this show alongside Brady Quinn and you can hear us normally Monday through Friday, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific.

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So this is considerably later than what we were used to getting all for. Oh, pheels so good. Yeah, I gotta admit it feels nice being awake while I'm doing the show.

So this is considerably later than what we were used to getting all for. Oh, pheels so good. Yeah, I gotta admit it feels nice being awake while I'm doing the show.

Let me tell you something, that whole that old five to six hours of consecutive sleep really underrated, really totally underrated.

Let me tell you something, that whole that old five to six hours of consecutive sleep really underrated, really totally underrated.

I'll tell you what. I woke up, Like, what the hell it's like? It was like four thirty four at least cars doing on the road. Wait a second, I get to go back to sleep. That is the uh, let me do that.

I'll tell you what. I woke up, Like, what the hell it's like? It was like four thirty four at least cars doing on the road. Wait a second, I get to go back to sleep. That is the uh, let me do that.

That is the one thing that when we were in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, like the one the common question you get from.

That is the one thing that when we were in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, like the one the common question you get from.

Everybody is how do you guys do do it? You mean get up at one am every day? I just you know, you just do it. Then we chose to do a weekend show too. That's what's crazy, Like, all right, it's not enough yet to do one more show and knock down six days a week. You do weekend show, A dope weekend show. I had this loser dude that comes on right immediately at did you like that? Perfect? How I hit him with that? We had Loser in the topic with Cam Newton. We go into it and immediately translated into using that as a transition messed up show in this knocks that's.

Everybody is how do you guys do do it? You mean get up at one am every day? I just you know, you just do it. Then we chose to do a weekend show too. That's what's crazy, Like, all right, it's not enough yet to do one more show and knock down six days a week. You do weekend show, A dope weekend show. I had this loser dude that comes on right immediately at did you like that? Perfect? How I hit him with that? We had Loser in the topic with Cam Newton. We go into it and immediately translated into using that as a transition messed up show in this knocks that's.

Mess listen as your as your technical producer for both your shows and the weekends.

Mess listen as your as your technical producer for both your shows and the weekends.

I'm not gonna get into the middle of the fight between mom and daddy. That fair.

I'm not gonna get into the middle of the fight between mom and daddy. That fair.

That's fair as long as I'm dead and he's mom. All I do is promote that whatever that show is there, you get your head'll get your head.

That's fair as long as I'm dead and he's mom. All I do is promote that whatever that show is there, you get your head'll get your head.

I promote your show at least three times during the course of my show, at least perfect I don't know. I think the over unders two and a half, taking the under, okay, two and a half, outside on two and a half at least two times.

I promote your show at least three times during the course of my show, at least perfect I don't know. I think the over unders two and a half, taking the under, okay, two and a half, outside on two and a half at least two times.

My favorite part is that people can't don't understand the dynamics, so they.

My favorite part is that people can't don't understand the dynamics, so they.

Go got this, Oh my gosh, Johnson, they don't like each other.

Go got this, Oh my gosh, Johnson, they don't like each other.

I think that's really should have been there Thursday night in New Orleans.

I think that's really should have been there Thursday night in New Orleans.

Oh that was all love. That was all love. Oh man, that was that was too much love. Now we did we did talk earlier in the show. We were discussing, you know, the dysfunctional New York Jets, all the dysfunctional NBA All Star Weekend, the dysfunctional New York Jets that they've still got to thrust stories out there. Go on Aaron Rodgers and then you know, there's Saquon Barkley Penn State. Later we are another member of the Stick City class number eleven.

Oh that was all love. That was all love. Oh man, that was that was too much love. Now we did we did talk earlier in the show. We were discussing, you know, the dysfunctional New York Jets, all the dysfunctional NBA All Star Weekend, the dysfunctional New York Jets that they've still got to thrust stories out there. Go on Aaron Rodgers and then you know, there's Saquon Barkley Penn State. Later we are another member of the Stick City class number eleven.

Michael Parsons, Uh, he's seen the Philadelphia Eagles now win a Super Bowl. He's the Washington from that side of the state, the Washington Commanders also in the division. They were in the one title game the Giants. Who knows address them right now, But Parsons spoke about the Eagles winning the Super Bowl and said the following quote, Yeah, that makes me hurt man. Over the past couple of years, we kind of got our wins and losses against them and battled with them. Obviously talent is here, but we've got to just finish and go be aggressive the same way they did. You know, I don't want to sit back and just watch other people build and build and build, and we stay the same. So we definitely need some call to action. That from Michael Parson's member of the Dallas Cowboys. What he said I was wrong, nothing like the problem like I.

Michael Parsons, Uh, he's seen the Philadelphia Eagles now win a Super Bowl. He's the Washington from that side of the state, the Washington Commanders also in the division. They were in the one title game the Giants. Who knows address them right now, But Parsons spoke about the Eagles winning the Super Bowl and said the following quote, Yeah, that makes me hurt man. Over the past couple of years, we kind of got our wins and losses against them and battled with them. Obviously talent is here, but we've got to just finish and go be aggressive the same way they did. You know, I don't want to sit back and just watch other people build and build and build, and we stay the same. So we definitely need some call to action. That from Michael Parson's member of the Dallas Cowboys. What he said I was wrong, nothing like the problem like I.

Saw stephen A and other people like kind of chiming in on it, Like what did he say that's wrong? Nobody, no one out here should take any exception to what he just said what he said in his quote, what do you say that's wrong? Dak Prescott made the same comments, and it was even more. It was even more like, at least Mike has said, look, we can beat these teams, like it's it's weird competitive Dak. The way I heard Dak and how he said, it's like he's disappointed that they weren't in the Super Bowl challenging to win the Super Bowl, Like that's delusional, like one is to me comes from are a more grounded space, like we got to get better, Like we're a team that has to get better and not let everybody else get better and get away from us and get ahead of us. Whereas I felt like Dak was and like, look, we beat them, we should have won, and I'm terribly disappointed that we weren't. I mean, maybe I read it wrong, but I just felt like he was like I'm.

Saw stephen A and other people like kind of chiming in on it, Like what did he say that's wrong? Nobody, no one out here should take any exception to what he just said what he said in his quote, what do you say that's wrong? Dak Prescott made the same comments, and it was even more. It was even more like, at least Mike has said, look, we can beat these teams, like it's it's weird competitive Dak. The way I heard Dak and how he said, it's like he's disappointed that they weren't in the Super Bowl challenging to win the Super Bowl, Like that's delusional, like one is to me comes from are a more grounded space, like we got to get better, Like we're a team that has to get better and not let everybody else get better and get away from us and get ahead of us. Whereas I felt like Dak was and like, look, we beat them, we should have won, and I'm terribly disappointed that we weren't. I mean, maybe I read it wrong, but I just felt like he was like I'm.

Terribly or was that Jerry Jones, Well, Jerry Jones was disappointed, and you know, I thought for sure we were going to lose Super Bowl and then But the problem is that you can't keep track of what each of these guys is saying, because it all is going to result in the same thing, which is they're never going to win a Super bowlang Like, if Michah Parsons wants to win a Super Bowl, he's got to get the hell out of Dallas. And I say this to somebody who's been bullish about the Cowboys. I mean, there's some reports out there I might have had him in the Super Bowl this past year. I'm not here to confirm nor deny any of that stuff, but Michaeh Parsons is probably looking around going the way we operate and do things is a lot different than the best teams in the league, and we're not close. Like, yeah, you're in the same division, but I got news for you. The Bears were in the same division as Alliance, so what Like the Jets were in the same division as the Patriots for years. Like, just because you're in the same division and maybe there's some familiarity and you play him tight, doesn't mean that you're close to being the same team, because there's like, you know, this little thing called fifteen to sixteen other games you have to play. So like, I mean I know that. Listen, you've beaten them a couple of times and you played them competitively. Dallas wasn't close this year, Dak Prescott went down with an injury and this was their quote unquote all in year.

Terribly or was that Jerry Jones, Well, Jerry Jones was disappointed, and you know, I thought for sure we were going to lose Super Bowl and then But the problem is that you can't keep track of what each of these guys is saying, because it all is going to result in the same thing, which is they're never going to win a Super bowlang Like, if Michah Parsons wants to win a Super Bowl, he's got to get the hell out of Dallas. And I say this to somebody who's been bullish about the Cowboys. I mean, there's some reports out there I might have had him in the Super Bowl this past year. I'm not here to confirm nor deny any of that stuff, but Michaeh Parsons is probably looking around going the way we operate and do things is a lot different than the best teams in the league, and we're not close. Like, yeah, you're in the same division, but I got news for you. The Bears were in the same division as Alliance, so what Like the Jets were in the same division as the Patriots for years. Like, just because you're in the same division and maybe there's some familiarity and you play him tight, doesn't mean that you're close to being the same team, because there's like, you know, this little thing called fifteen to sixteen other games you have to play. So like, I mean I know that. Listen, you've beaten them a couple of times and you played them competitively. Dallas wasn't close this year, Dak Prescott went down with an injury and this was their quote unquote all in year.

That's what he said. I just that's what he said. Do you find yourself curious as to what the call to action is that he's referring to? What is the call to action? What do you do? What would be the most efficient, most intentional, most effective call to action? What do you think think? Michael Parsons was thinking, what do you think people who are thinking a call to action? What would the call what should that call to action be?

That's what he said. I just that's what he said. Do you find yourself curious as to what the call to action is that he's referring to? What is the call to action? What do you do? What would be the most efficient, most intentional, most effective call to action? What do you think think? Michael Parsons was thinking, what do you think people who are thinking a call to action? What would the call what should that call to action be?

If you were gonna do something drastic, it would be at the quarterback position. But they can't because they already paid him. So you are stuck with and you do that. And look, Dak Prescott has had good years, but I just don't it feels like the Cowboys window closed.

If you were gonna do something drastic, it would be at the quarterback position. But they can't because they already paid him. So you are stuck with and you do that. And look, Dak Prescott has had good years, but I just don't it feels like the Cowboys window closed.

Come on, keep trying, you got you gotta keep reaching. Come on, and you're gonna stop on that one? Well, no, you're gonna leave it that personnel on the field, didn't he didn't he bring up Philadelphia and say, Philadelphia, who's been getting all the love from Philadelphia? Think about it, who's been getting the love for them winning the champions? No? You're on the field. You all aight of course? Now think about that. Yeah, the GM is getting all everybody and their mama is singing the praises of the GM. I'm just wondering because I don't want to put Micah in no compromising situations because listen, I don't talk to Micah about what he's got going on professionally or anything like that. So this is not no inside bit or anything like that. We strictly family talk about family things. But I'm just wondering, is the call to action? Since we can't replace the owner, You can't replace your call to action, can't say we got to replace the owner. The owner has got to stop doing all of the meddaling that he's doing. When'd you think the second singular biggest move that would be a call to action, especially if you're the best player on the team saying it and you still haven't done your contract yet. So I'm telling you there needs to be a call to action, and that could be gently or lightly position and to say, if you want me to redo my contract, you want me to do a contract that's going to keep me here, there needs to be some changes made that make us better. He made a specific statement in comment to getting better, like they're out here getting better. What are we doing? What are we doing to me? You can't say, oh, well, it's the quarterback position. You can't say, oh it's this position. You got to say that it's the people that are making the decisions on the personnel of this team that have to do better. That's the only way you can make That's the only way you can make way. He said, a valid, a valid point of emphasis, right, yeah.