As Israel moves rom managing the Iranian threat to removing it, former Australian Assistant Defence Minister and soldier Mike Kelly provides a hard-headed assessment of the escalating conflict involving Israel, Iran, Hezbollah and the United States. What are the real military and geopolitical stakes of this war, and how far could it spread? We examines the strategic objectives of Israel and the US, the role of Iran’s proxy forces across the region, and managing the risks of wider regional escalation including Iran's use of global terror. The conversation uncovers the strategic fiascos of Australia's National Security establishment and the "failure to appreciate the ecosystem of terror".