What happens when two ideas don't fit — until they finally do? What does that process actually look like?

In this episode of The Hardest Part, Kieron Banerji is joined by Ulrika Spacek to break down the making of their track “Weights and Measures.”

The song began as two completely separate pieces. One was built around a heavy fuzz section. The other drew on early 2010s London electronic textures. For a long time, they simply would not work together. Bringing them into one track meant shifting tempos, adjusting pitch, and committing to the contrast rather than smoothing it out.

The band talk through their collaborative writing process, building ideas from a shared sample bank and starting with drum sketches recorded remotely. They unpack the technical challenges of blending digital and analog sounds, recreating MIDI parts, and pushing themselves beyond what felt comfortable.

They also reflect on creative block and how time and collective thinking helped the song eventually find its shape. Despite being difficult to finish, it has become one of the tracks that means the most to them.

Guest: Ulrika Spacek

Track: “Weights and Measures”

Album: EXPO (2026)

Host: Kieron Banerji

Produced and Distributed by: Palm Tree Island