Chris Robinson hosts the The Hard Ball Gets - Good Chat, sitting down with a special guest every week as well as weighing up some over/unders and previewing the weekend.

Heath Black went from Fremantle to St Kilda and then back to Freo in a 192 game career, experienced the devastating lows of post-footy life, and then found a way to rebuild his life and help others through a similar journey.

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