Dave and Licia Radford constitute the husband-wife duo, The Gray Havens. Their upcoming album, Blue Flower, is inspired by C. S. Lewis's autobiography, Surprised by Joy and explores "inconsolable longing" and every human's homesickness for a place they've never been. Most of the album's songs are available on Spotify.

In this episode, Dave Radford and Jonathan Rogers talk about the ways that joy is both a spur and a guide for creative work. You might also check out the Blue Flower Podcast, in which Dave talks through the origins of each song on the album.

Dave and Licia Radford constitute the husband-wife duo, <a href="https://www.thegrayhavensmusic.com/">The Gray Havens</a>. Their upcoming album, Blue Flower, is inspired by C. S. Lewis's autobiography, Surprised by Joy and explores "inconsolable longing" and every human's homesickness for a place they've never been. Most of the album's songs are available on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4P6370QMeannEM8wXtlJBS?si=71oktpxvTqmxmFnitqp-9g&amp;dl_branch=1">Spotify</a>.
In this episode, Dave Radford and Jonathan Rogers talk about the ways that joy is both a spur and a guide for creative work. You might also check out the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0cPMszWwNARnr5fh7uYLuW?si=pGpmLWzrSLyy7AWlj7vgjw&amp;nd=1">Blue Flower Podcast</a>, in which Dave talks through the origins of each song on the album.

Conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers.

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