Shawn Smucker has published five novels in the last five years—most recently, The Weight of Memory. He has also co-written some thirty books. Shawn and his wife Maile Silva coach, teach, and encourage other writers in a creative community they call The Stories Between Us. They host a podcast of the same name.

In this episode, Shawn Smucker and Jonathan Rogers discuss revision, point of view, and when it's ok for writers to stop pushing and take a break.