Lisa Deam is an art historian and the author of 3,000 Miles to Jesus: Pilgrimage as a Way of Life for Spiritual Seekers. (She also blogs at The Contemplative Writer.)

In this episode, Lisa and Jonathan discuss the process of writing as a pilgrimage, the human desire to leave signposts for those who come after us, the infamous “long middle” of the writing journey, and the instructive power of inefficiency.

<p><a href="http://lisadeam.com/">Lisa Deam</a> is an art historian and the author of <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781506461632">3,000 Miles to Jesus: Pilgrimage as a Way of Life for Spiritual Seekers</a>. (She also blogs at <a href="https://thecontemplativewriter.com/">The Contemplative Writer</a>.)</p>
<p>In this episode, Lisa and Jonathan discuss the process of writing as a pilgrimage, the human desire to leave signposts for those who come after us, the infamous &ldquo;long middle&rdquo; of the writing journey, and the instructive power of inefficiency.</p>

Conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers.

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