This week on The Habit Podcast, Jonathan Rogers talks with Marilyn McEntyre, author of Speaking Peace in a Climate of Conflict.
They discuss the rich etymological depth of the word "conversation" and its connection to "dwelling with," the lost art of visiting, the transactional nature of conversation in a capitalist world, poetry's abiding danger to the status quo, and the recovery of metaphor.

Joy Clarkson Thinks You Are a Tree (from the archives)
46:02

Timothy Jones is Fully Beloved
40:40

Bethaney Wilkinson's More Beautiful Way to Live
39:44