Drew Miller is a Nashville singer-songwriter, content developer for the Rabbit Room, and the producer of this podcast. This fall and winter he is releasing two EPs, Desolation and Consolation. In this episode, Jonathan and Drew discuss the interdependence of desolation and consolation, how to evoke genuine emotion in listeners, and the importance of truth-telling in a world full of false consolations.

Writers who make Drew Miller want to write:
Madison Cunningham (Who Are You Now?)
Sara Groves (Floodplain)

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Drew Miller is a Nashville singer-songwriter, content developer for the Rabbit Room, and the producer of this podcast. This fall and winter he is releasing two EPs, <a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/desolation?_pos=102&amp;_sid=5c513b202&amp;_ss=r&amp;variant=30288003498071">Desolation</a> and&nbsp;Consolation. In this episode, Jonathan and Drew discuss the interdependence of desolation and consolation, how to evoke genuine emotion in listeners, and the importance of truth-telling in a world full of false consolations.
Writers who make Drew Miller want to write:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.madisoncunningham.com/">Madison Cunningham</a> (Who Are You Now?)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.saragroves.com/">Sara Groves</a> (Floodplain)</li>
</ul>
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Emily P. Freeman spends a lot of time thinking, talking, and writing about discernment and decision-making–doing the next right thing. She hosts The Next Right Thing podcast and created The Next Right Thing Guided Journal. Her latest book is How to Walk Into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away. In this conversation, Emily and Jonathan Rogers talk about pointing and calling, the difference between discernment and decision-making, and the counterintuitive truth that, when it comes to discerning the next best step, remembering is more important than predicting.

Emily P. Freeman spends a lot of time thinking, talking, and writing about discernment and decision-making–doing the next right thing. She hosts <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-right-thing/id1268826768">The Next Right Thing podcast</a> and created <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Next-Right-Thing-Guided-Journal/dp/0800739779/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=1C0ORHFVQUGW5&amp;dchild=1&amp;keywords=the+next+right+thing+guided+journal&amp;qid=1608990540&amp;sprefix=the+next+right+thing,aps,150&amp;sr=8-3&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=chaatthesky-20&amp;linkId=15c46ee2af750163c19fc62638f0f375&amp;language=en_US">The Next Right Thing Guided Journal</a>. Her latest book is <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/how-to-walk-into-a-room-and-how-to-know-when-it-s-time-to-walk-out-discernment-for-your-next-right-thing-emily-p-freeman/20165302?ean=9780063328822">How to Walk Into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away</a>. In this conversation, Emily and Jonathan Rogers talk about pointing and calling, the difference between discernment and decision-making, and the counterintuitive truth that, when it comes to discerning the next best step, remembering is more important than predicting.

Emily P. Freeman On How to Walk Into a Room

Faith Chang struggles with perfectionism. Nevertheless, she pushed through and finished a book–about perfectionism. It’s called Peace Over Perfection: Enjoying a Good God When You Feel You're Never Good Enough. Faith is the guest on this week’s episode of The Habit Podcast.

Faith Chang struggles with perfectionism. Nevertheless, she pushed through and finished a book–about perfectionism. It’s called <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/peace-over-perfection-enjoying-a-good-god-when-you-feel-you-re-never-good-enough-faith-chang/20660742?ean=9781784989859">Peace Over Perfection: Enjoying a Good God When You Feel You're Never Good Enough</a>. Faith is the guest on this week’s episode of The Habit Podcast.

Faith Chang Is a Perfectionist.

Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie are the founders of Wolfbane Books. They are also co-authors of the Story of God trilogy of picture books, beautifully illustrated by Aedan Peterson—The Story of God with Us, The Story of God the King,andThe Story of God Our Savior. In this episode, Kenneth and Shay and Jonathan Rogers talk about visual storytelling, Biblical theology (as distinct from systematic theology), mountains, and alligators. 

Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie are the founders of Wolfbane Books. They are also co-authors of the Story of God trilogy of picture books, beautifully illustrated by Aedan Peterson—<a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/the-story-of-god-with-us?variant=40005524783191">The Story of God with Us</a>, T<a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/the-story-of-god-our-king?variant=40040199716951">he Story of God the King,</a> and <a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/products/copy-of-the-story-of-god-our-king?_pos=18&amp;_sid=5b234899e&amp;_ss=r&amp;variant=40481592410199">The Story of God Our Savio</a>r. In this episode, Kenneth and Shay and Jonathan Rogers talk about visual storytelling, Biblical theology (as distinct from systematic theology), mountains, and alligators.

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