David Zahl is the founder and director of Mockingbird Ministries, editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird website, and co-host of The Mockingcast. His new book is Low Anthropology: The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Others (and Yourself). He writes, "Low anthropology keeps the avenues of communication open. It provides a bulwark against burnout. It has led to a kinder view of myself and a fount of curiosity, courtesy, honesty, humor, compassion, connection, and love." 

David Zahl is the founder and director of Mockingbird Ministries, editor-in-chief of the <a href="https://mbird.com/">Mockingbird website</a>, and co-host of <a href="https://mbird.com/category/the-mockingcast/">The Mockingcast</a>. His new book is <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781587435560">Low Anthropology: The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Others (and Yourself).</a> He writes, "Low anthropology keeps the avenues of communication open. It provides a bulwark against burnout. It has led to a kinder view of myself and a fount of curiosity, courtesy, honesty, humor, compassion, connection, and love."

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David Zahl Doesn't Think Too Highly of Himself (or You)

Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist, a speaker, and the author of several books–most recently, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope. In this episode, Curt and Jonathan Rogers talk about what it means to be hospitable to your own suffering, engaging suffering as the way of redemption, and the role of storytelling in mental and spiritual health.

This episode originally ran in August 2023.

Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist, a speaker, and the author of several books&ndash;most recently, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-deepest-place-suffering-and-the-formation-of-hope-curt-thompson/19235737?ean=9780310366478">The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope</a>. In this episode, Curt and Jonathan Rogers talk about what it means to be hospitable to your own suffering, engaging suffering as the way of redemption, and the role of storytelling in mental and spiritual health.
This episode originally ran in August 2023.

Curt Thompson Goes to the Deepest Place (from the Archives)

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Andrew Roycroft is a freelance editor and writer. He has published poetry in a number of Irish and British literary journals, has produced work for BBC Radio 4, has contributed to Arts Council Northern Ireland projects, and written commissioned work for New Irish Arts. Andrew is also a regular contributor to the Rabbit Room Poetry community. His Substack is New Grub Street. In this episode, Andrew and Jonathan Rogers talk about calling, Substack, and Seamus Heaney.

Andrew Roycroft is a freelance editor and writer. He has published poetry in a number of Irish and British literary journals, has produced work for BBC Radio 4, has contributed to Arts Council Northern Ireland projects, and written commissioned work for New Irish Arts. Andrew is also a regular contributor to the Rabbit Room Poetry community. His Substack is <a href="https://andrewroycroft.substack.com/">New Grub Street</a>. In this episode, Andrew and Jonathan Rogers talk about calling, Substack, and Seamus Heaney.

Andrew Roycroft's Calling Hasn't Changed.

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Marsh Moyle is an interesting man. He’s an Englishman but he grew up in Malta. He and his wife Tuula lived for 17 years in Vienna when the Iron Curtain divided Europe. There they organised book translation and distribution while researching the beliefs, practices, and problems of life under communism. In the post-communist period, they lived in Slovakia for 16 years, establishing publishing houses in seven countries. They also ran a learning community and held seminars with student groups in Central Europe, Russia, and Ukraine, committed to awakening the imagination, encouragng critical thinking, and fostering a deeper practical understanding of biblical ideas. Marsh is the author of Rumours of a Better Country: Searching for Trust and Community in a Time of Moral Outrage. In this episode, Marsh and Jonathan Rogers talk about utopianism, individualism, and the surprising truth that we can only be our true, distinct selves when our selves are shaped by the people around us.

Marsh Moyle is an interesting man. He&rsquo;s an Englishman but he grew up in Malta. He and his wife Tuula lived for 17 years in Vienna when the Iron Curtain divided Europe. There they organised book translation and distribution while researching the beliefs, practices, and problems of life under communism. In the post-communist period, they lived in Slovakia for 16 years, establishing publishing houses in seven countries. They also ran a learning community and held seminars with student groups in Central Europe, Russia, and Ukraine, committed to awakening the imagination, encouragng critical thinking, and fostering a deeper practical understanding of biblical ideas. Marsh is the author of <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/rumours-of-a-better-country-searching-for-trust-and-community-in-a-time-of-moral-outrage-marsh-moyle/40184f181d06f686?ean=9781789744675&amp;next=t">Rumours of a Better Country: Searching for Trust and Community in a Time of Moral Outrage</a>. In this episode, Marsh and Jonathan Rogers talk about utopianism, individualism, and the surprising truth that we can only be our true, distinct selves when our selves are shaped by the people around us.

Marsh Moyle Spreads Rumours of a Better Country

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David Zahl Doesn't Think Too Highly of Himself (or You)

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