Besides being a bird enthusiast, Courtney Ellis is a pastor in Southern California, the author of several books, and the host of a podcast called The Thing with Feathers. Her new book is Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope through Grief. In this episode, Courtney and Jonathan Rogers talk about delight, presence, and cultivating attention.

Timothy Jones is Fully Beloved
40:40

Bethaney Wilkinson's More Beautiful Way to Live
39:44

Wesley Vander Lugt Breathes Beauty (from the Archives)
37:47