On today’s Christmas week episode of The Greg Laurie Show, we’re bringing back a classic interview between Pastor Greg and the one and only, Joni Eareckson Tada. Together they talk honestly about suffering, depression, chronic pain, and the unshakable hope of Christ. Plus, Joni shares her story—from a life-altering diving accident to a lifetime of ministry—along with a powerful perspective on God’s sovereignty, the true meaning of “Emmanuel,” and what she’s most looking forward to in heaven: not just a healed body, but a glorified heart. 

Wishing you a Christmas filled with joy, love, laughter, and the true peace of knowing your Savior has been born. 

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CHAPTERS: 

0:00 — Burning bush, unconsumed
00:31 — Christmas hope for hurting
04:08 — Introducing Joni’s ministry
06:17 — The diving accident
07:25 — Trusting with missing pieces
10:05 — God’s sovereignty in suffering
12:27 — The cross brings good
15:56 — “Jesus, You can”
17:55 — Romans 8, real “good”
20:39 — Help someone hurting worse
23:36 — Don’t suffer alone
26:05 — How Joni met Ken
30:27 — Emmanuel, God with us
32:09 — Peace made through Jesus
36:12 — Longing for a new heart
38:29 — Simple steps of sanctification
46:24 — A spectacle of glory
50:48 — Beyond Suffering Bible resource
01:02:15 — “Welcome home” moment