What happens when a celebrated crime novelist, political commentator, and former Hollywood insider shares his unlikely journey from atheism to faith? In this thought-provoking episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg sits down with Andrew Klavan—Daily Wire host, best-selling author, humorist, and screenwriter—for a revealing and joyfully honest conversation about belief, culture, truth, and the state of the modern world.

From the trauma of a “cracked up” life and his secular Jewish upbringing to a miraculous encounter with God at age 49, Klavan shares how grappling with deep depression and relentless curiosity led him to Christianity. Together, Pastor Greg and Andrew explore how ideas shape society, why true masculinity and femininity matter, and what it means to stand firm in your convictions—even when it costs you everything.

 

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Find Andrew’s memoir—The Great Good Thing—here: https://bit.ly/4868CyS 

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/.

Find Pastor Greg on social media:
https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/
https://x.com/greglaurie
https://www.facebook.com/harvest.greglaurie

Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

 

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TIMESTAMPS: 

00:00 Andrew Klavan’s Descent into Depression and Miraculous Recovery
01:46 Culture Shock: Returning to America After Seven Years Abroad
02:48 Hollywood’s Shift: Speaking Out Against Anti-American Narratives
04:14 The Symbolism of Trump’s Election & Defeating “Empire of Lies”
07:58 Arguing Spiritual Truth in a Material World
10:31 Rejecting Empty Religion: Klavan’s Jewish Upbringing and Crisis
12:48 Therapy, Transformation, and the Power of Mentorship
14:12 The Logic and Experience of Prayer
15:25 The Unlikely Call to Christian Baptism
16:57 Reading the Bible as Truth: A Pivotal Moment
19:35 Are Today’s Intellectuals Moving Toward Faith?
22:21 The Limits of Science and Dawkins as a “Cultural Christian”
23:55 Jordan Peterson’s Influence on Youth & The Bible
24:23 Letting God Judge: On Orthodoxy, Spirit, and Conversions
27:34 Darkness in the World & The Call to Love
29:23 Defining True Masculinity: Integrity and Courage
31:46 The High Calling of Motherhood & Marriage Insights
33:39 Art, Storytelling, and the Hope for Genuine Christian Films
35:20 Why Mainstream Filmmakers Avoid Christian Stories—But Momentum Grows
37:40 The Power of Story: “Chariots of Fire” & Impactful Interviews
40:41 Shakespeare as the Ultimate Interview: Faith, Story, and Mystery
43:53 The Role of Humor in Surviving Life’s Corruption
45:41 Jewish Humor, Survival, and Laughter Through Adversity
47:15 Closing: The Power of Love, Humor, and Unique Voices

What happens when a celebrated crime novelist, political commentator, and former Hollywood insider shares his unlikely journey from atheism to faith? In this thought-provoking episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg sits down with Andrew Klavan&mdash;Daily Wire host, best-selling author, humorist, and screenwriter&mdash;for a revealing and joyfully honest conversation about belief, culture, truth, and the state of the modern world.
From the trauma of a &ldquo;cracked up&rdquo; life and his secular Jewish upbringing to a miraculous encounter with God at age 49, Klavan shares how grappling with deep depression and relentless curiosity led him to Christianity. Together, Pastor Greg and Andrew explore how ideas shape society, why true masculinity and femininity matter, and what it means to stand firm in your convictions&mdash;even when it costs you everything.
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Find Andrew&rsquo;s memoir&mdash;The Great Good Thing&mdash;here: <a href="https://bit.ly/4868CyS">https://bit.ly/4868CyS</a>&nbsp;
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>
Find Pastor Greg on social media:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://x.com/greglaurie">https://x.com/greglaurie</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/harvest.greglaurie">https://www.facebook.com/harvest.greglaurie</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more Christian podcasts at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/">lifeaudio.com</a> and inquire about advertising opportunities at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/contact-us">lifeaudio.com/contact-us</a>.
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TIMESTAMPS: 
00:00 Andrew Klavan&rsquo;s Descent into Depression and Miraculous Recovery 01:46 Culture Shock: Returning to America After Seven Years Abroad 02:48 Hollywood&rsquo;s Shift: Speaking Out Against Anti-American Narratives 04:14 The Symbolism of Trump&rsquo;s Election &amp; Defeating &ldquo;Empire of Lies&rdquo; 07:58 Arguing Spiritual Truth in a Material World 10:31 Rejecting Empty Religion: Klavan&rsquo;s Jewish Upbringing and Crisis 12:48 Therapy, Transformation, and the Power of Mentorship 14:12 The Logic and Experience of Prayer 15:25 The Unlikely Call to Christian Baptism 16:57 Reading the Bible as Truth: A Pivotal Moment 19:35 Are Today&rsquo;s Intellectuals Moving Toward Faith? 22:21 The Limits of Science and Dawkins as a &ldquo;Cultural Christian&rdquo; 23:55 Jordan Peterson&rsquo;s Influence on Youth &amp; The Bible 24:23 Letting God Judge: On Orthodoxy, Spirit, and Conversions 27:34 Darkness in the World &amp; The Call to Love 29:23 Defining True Masculinity: Integrity and Courage 31:46 The High Calling of Motherhood &amp; Marriage Insights 33:39 Art, Storytelling, and the Hope for Genuine Christian Films 35:20 Why Mainstream Filmmakers Avoid Christian Stories&mdash;But Momentum Grows 37:40 The Power of Story: &ldquo;Chariots of Fire&rdquo; &amp; Impactful Interviews 40:41 Shakespeare as the Ultimate Interview: Faith, Story, and Mystery 43:53 The Role of Humor in Surviving Life&rsquo;s Corruption 45:41 Jewish Humor, Survival, and Laughter Through Adversity 47:15 Closing: The Power of Love, Humor, and Unique Voices

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.

On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life. 

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.
On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life.&nbsp;
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

The Greg Laurie Show

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

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