Frank Turek was near Charlie Kirk on the day he was killed at UVU. A year later, he sits down with Greg to talk about grief, evil, and what Charlie's legacy means for the church now.

From there, the conversation opens up into Frank's new book, The War on Reality (co-written with Phoenix Hayes, with a foreword by Erika Kirk), and the cultural questions Frank is hearing most on college campuses today.

In this episode:
- The night Charlie was killed and what Erika said to Frank at the hospital
- Why the top three objections to Christianity today are all about morality
- The transgender conversation, detransitioners, and what to actually say to your kid
- Why socialism keeps making a comeback on campus
- The rise of antisemitism after October 7th
- AI, hallucinations, and the "Madagascar" test that failed 33 out of 35 students
- Plus: Beatles trivia, desert island songs, and Greg's awkward encounter with Ringo

Learn more about Frank's book at thewaronreality.com.

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Timestamps:

00:41 Remembering Charlie Kirk one year later
02:26 Why it's not PTSD — it's normal grief
04:11 Evil, eternity, and the ripple effect
07:16 Erika Kirk: "Don't let his legacy die"
09:53 How campus objections shifted to morality
14:10 Is the church feeding the war on reality?
18:34 The trans social contagion and detransitioners
22:03 Questions to ask a child who says "I'm trans"
25:38 Why socialism keeps making a comeback
29:13 Ten reasons Christians must engage politically
32:51 The hidden dangers of AI hallucinations
37:20 The spiritual roots of rising antisemitism
44:09 Go-to verses for stress and suffering
49:42 One last sermon: glorified or horrified
53:35 Beatles rabbit hole and witnessing to Ringo
59:10 Why he wrote The War on Reality

Frank Turek was near Charlie Kirk on the day he was killed at UVU. A year later, he sits down with Greg to talk about grief, evil, and what Charlie's legacy means for the church now.
From there, the conversation opens up into Frank's new book, The War on Reality (co-written with Phoenix Hayes, with a foreword by Erika Kirk), and the cultural questions Frank is hearing most on college campuses today.
In this episode: - The night Charlie was killed and what Erika said to Frank at the hospital - Why the top three objections to Christianity today are all about morality - The transgender conversation, detransitioners, and what to actually say to your kid - Why socialism keeps making a comeback on campus - The rise of antisemitism after October 7th - AI, hallucinations, and the "Madagascar" test that failed 33 out of 35 students - Plus: Beatles trivia, desert island songs, and Greg's awkward encounter with Ringo
Learn more about Frank's book at thewaronreality.com.
Subscribe for new conversations every week.
Timestamps:
00:41 Remembering Charlie Kirk one year later 02:26 Why it's not PTSD &mdash; it's normal grief 04:11 Evil, eternity, and the ripple effect 07:16 Erika Kirk: "Don't let his legacy die" 09:53 How campus objections shifted to morality 14:10 Is the church feeding the war on reality? 18:34 The trans social contagion and detransitioners 22:03 Questions to ask a child who says "I'm trans" 25:38 Why socialism keeps making a comeback 29:13 Ten reasons Christians must engage politically 32:51 The hidden dangers of AI hallucinations 37:20 The spiritual roots of rising antisemitism 44:09 Go-to verses for stress and suffering 49:42 One last sermon: glorified or horrified 53:35 Beatles rabbit hole and witnessing to Ringo 59:10 Why he wrote The War on Reality

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.

On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life. 

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.
On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life.&nbsp;
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

The Greg Laurie Show

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

Frank Turek: The Nightmare Is When I Wake Up

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