Christine Caine on why the "victim narrative" is destroying a generation—and what the real gospel actually says.

In this conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie sits down with Christine Caine (founder of A21, evangelist, author) for a wide-ranging talk about faith, calling, and the fight against human trafficking.

What we cover:
• Finding out at 33 she was adopted—and how a decade of renewing her mind with Scripture prepared her for that moment
• Childhood abuse, shame, and why "despite" is the real language of the gospel
• Why she believes evangelism is the most unwanted job in the 21st-century church
• Running A21 across 22 countries and what she's learned on the front lines
• 30 years of marriage, 260+ hotel nights a year, and building a life around purpose
• The hardest prayer she's ever prayed
• Why Jesus is coming back—and what that should change about how we live today
• Numbering your days: the practice she started at 22 that still shapes her life

Two evangelists, one long conversation, plenty of laughter along the way.

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Timestamps

00:16 The one-night stand and the plan of God

01:54 A phone call reveals the family secret

06:29 Renewing the mind before the storm hits

10:14 Making pain a tool, not a prison

14:17 Redemption is "despite," not "if only"

18:44 Losing a son and the resurrection witness

22:53 What Jesus did is bigger than what was done to you

29:33 Preaching to the back row, not the front row

34:06 Why eschatology still matters

41:26 The hardest prayer: getting the "want" back

46:28 Marriage built on purpose and the fruit of the Spirit

01:07:12 J. John and the power of another cup of coffee

01:12:03 Numbering your days from age 22

01:17:15 Three questions from Eden for the unwanted

Christine Caine on why the "victim narrative" is destroying a generation&mdash;and what the real gospel actually says.
In this conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie sits down with Christine Caine (founder of A21, evangelist, author) for a wide-ranging talk about faith, calling, and the fight against human trafficking.
What we cover: &bull; Finding out at 33 she was adopted&mdash;and how a decade of renewing her mind with Scripture prepared her for that moment &bull; Childhood abuse, shame, and why "despite" is the real language of the gospel &bull; Why she believes evangelism is the most unwanted job in the 21st-century church &bull; Running A21 across 22 countries and what she's learned on the front lines &bull; 30 years of marriage, 260+ hotel nights a year, and building a life around purpose &bull; The hardest prayer she's ever prayed &bull; Why Jesus is coming back&mdash;and what that should change about how we live today &bull; Numbering your days: the practice she started at 22 that still shapes her life
Two evangelists, one long conversation, plenty of laughter along the way.
Subscribe for new episodes of the Greg Laurie Podcast every week.
Timestamps
00:16 The one-night stand and the plan of God
01:54 A phone call reveals the family secret
06:29 Renewing the mind before the storm hits
10:14 Making pain a tool, not a prison
14:17 Redemption is "despite," not "if only"
18:44 Losing a son and the resurrection witness
22:53 What Jesus did is bigger than what was done to you
29:33 Preaching to the back row, not the front row
34:06 Why eschatology still matters
41:26 The hardest prayer: getting the "want" back
46:28 Marriage built on purpose and the fruit of the Spirit
01:07:12 J. John and the power of another cup of coffee
01:12:03 Numbering your days from age 22
01:17:15 Three questions from Eden for the unwanted

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.

On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life. 

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith.
On the "The Greg Laurie Show," Pastor Greg brings insight to Scripture, a deep dive into real cultural issues, and special guest interviews with trusted Christian voices with a variety of life experiences that will help you make sense of life.&nbsp;
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

The Greg Laurie Show

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."

Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit https://harvest.org/. 
Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/ 

Everyone talks about life after death, but what about life during life? Do you wonder, 'Why am I here? How can I be truly happy? Does my life matter, or why do I feel empty inside?' And, 'What really happens when I die?' Pastor Greg Laurie has helped millions find profound hope through true faith. On "The Greg Laurie Show," he transparently shares his own journey from hopelessness, addiction, and abuse to a spiritual revolution that transformed everything. Drawing on decades of impactful ministry, Greg tackles life's deepest questions, offering timeless biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and a compelling vision for a life radically transformed by Christ. Join Pastor Greg as he navigates today's cultural challenges, unpacks spiritual truths, and empowers listeners to discover lasting joy and meaning in a relationship with God."
Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit <a href="https://harvest.org/">https://harvest.org/.</a>&nbsp; Find Pastor Greg on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/">https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/</a>&nbsp;

Christine Caine: The Kitchen Table Where Everything Changed

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