Jiah. You know what it is right now, you tune in to The American Chronicles, the new podcast where my boy still and Soaring Baker. You got your boy big Oho right here. What's cracking fellas man on this episode. Man, we gonna get stuff kicked off. And we kind of had a little bit of controversy already, you know what I'm saying. But Big Old to saying, we're gonna keep a gangster. So that's what we're gonna do. We will keep a gangster exactly. We're gonna do what we gotta do. You know, new podcast. You know we're gonna try to bring all kind of elements to the table. You know, I know people you know wondering about the Gangster Chronicles. You know, uh, we're still on that, you know, shout out to my boy James. We still got that rolling. But we want to bring something different to the table. You know, the whole wide world of spectrum. You know, not just about the Street Tales or whatever, but you know interest that you know different people might want to have, you know, as far as you know the Street Tales music, you know, move vs. Uh, all types of genres here. You know what I'm saying, so and bringing you know, our boys soaring Baker Man journalistic extraordinary. Yes, yes, I'm glad to be here man author, I know eight since the nineties and still know from I guess close to a decade now. So I'm glad to be part of the team. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Man. You know one thing we was gonna talk about, and I don't think it's a definitive answer to this, we said we're gonna do the top three gainst the rap albums of all time, Street albums of all time. That's gonna be hard, bro. I think it's making five. We could go to fire, you can get you canna do your top five or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Uh, And this is like, you know, this is our personal opinions. So you know it might be something different that you might see, but this is coming from the spectrum of what we have experienced over these decades of being involved in hip hop and music, and so we just want to get it. Uh, you know our outlook. Everybody puts up their top five, top ten's, top fifties, whatever. You know, some people might be on there that you might not like. Some people might you know, So this is just our general intake of what we feel is, are you know, uh addition to that you feel me? Yeah? For sure? So who gonna kick it off first? Who gonna kick off the top five? One? You go? Still ship man, y'all just put me on the hot seat, right it seat. You just met to tell what you what you think your preference from when the day you started listening to hip hop or gangster music or whatever. We'll keep it in that, and then you started listening to the street music. You know, what do you feel up to? Now? Is your top five in street related tales? All right, here we go, And this is in no particular order. I cube America's most wanted music to drive by those boys gripping on another level, funck man, This is are iced T six's Ryan Pays, I gotta land see. This is fucking tough man. This is fucking tough man. M scar Face And this is what I'm had the problem because I already got to get a boys in there, but don got scar Face in there too for Last of a Dying Breeze. Yeah, and I and I explained each one of my picks. If if I can I think for me with America's most wanted for where we use at in the country at the time, because that was when conscious rap was real big. You know, everybody was walking around with the medallions on and everything. You remember, you'll remember that era right where everybody's walking around with the American you know, but the African medallions on everything like that. I think you bought that same energy. It was with a twist. It was like from a hood perspective. Yeah, I think two men growing up in Maryland, Yes, But I think for us one of the biggest things I remember me and my friends talking about was we all knew all the rappers in the n w A were phenomenal artists, but we didn't understand that Cube was that good. So for us, for us, it was the streets talking of like, yo, do you hear Ice Cube and he's like, fuck you Ice Cube. We were like what does he say? Like this is crazy and we had no idea that he was that good because Rand killed Straight Compton, you know, Dre was incredible on Straight Compton. They brought so much too easy does it and w ain't Aposse. It wasn't just because of Cube, it was all of them. So we just didn't for us. We didn't understand that significance in Maryland, and I just I'll never forget you know, the brother you love to hate kicking off the album, and my boy, one of my boys, just kept being like, I can't believe he said cue because we didn't know the inner workings and why he left. We just do he left and he had beef, but we didn't know what it was. And I was just mind blowing to all of us. Everyone that listened to the album loved it. We were just thrown off. Man. It was crazy and that's what I'm saying, That's what it was with me. And plus he was fresh off the heels, like you said, of leaving n w A yeah, and it was like you wanted to see what he was gonna say and what it was. And I just remember riding down the street and Cleveland listening to that whole album. Same thing with Music to drive By. Music to Drive By just really just took me to a different place. And I think because Eight's background sonically was so different, you know, from the West Coast during that time, he was hearing a lot of fun you feel what I'm saying. And I always like to tell people that aid is almost like the Isaac Hayes against the Wrap to me, yeah, you feel what I'm saying, he's the I said, he it's against the rep And it was kind of just like it didn't. That's when it was like with me because if I'm correct me if I'm wrong, that was the Compass Most Wanted the album. It wasn't an m C eight album, but eight was the only dude on their repping, and that was Scarface Starface and it was kind of like, Okay, where are the other dudes? That is that his name to Compass Most Wanted? Well, you know, um, well we started back you know, see if w it was me Chill you know, uh cat name and um you just do a little you know, trying to do a little demo tape. You know, I was whatever. But as they went on, um, you know, Chill you know had the kind of couple runnings you know with the with the boys. Um, so he had to go do some time. That's for um. I just continued on instead of going a solo artist at the time, I just kept on with the Counten's Most Wanted name, even though it was just me Rhynman. On the next three projects, I just kept to seem w name uh, and it wasn't up until I got ready to do we come strapped. It's when Stoney decided to have me just go it as a solo artist instead of CMW. Thus is how you got m C a feature in the concertence most Wanted on my first solo project. So that's how that happened. But I just felt, you know, in the beginning, I didn't feel like I should go to just MC eight. You get me. We had already had a platform for a comptence most Wanted because of the first album and one time gal for them upping that record, you know, selling about two hundred and fifty thousand companies back in fucking n So we just stuck with it. You fail me, yeah for sure. And it was a classic album because eight albums always reminded me of movies and did a lot of albums during that time period. They just had this really just like cinematic field where you would turn stuff over from the beginning and you wouldn't stop to the end. It wasn't no skipping, no tracks. You was just kind of listened to it. It It was like watching the movie kind of and it was cool, you know what I'm saying it was just real dope, you know what I'm saying. Hey, But but Music to Drive By and straight well really all three conference most one of the albums of the era. To steal his point, there's no skips. And that's one of the things I always go back and forth between if I like straight checking them, more Music to drive By more, but um, the the force and the menace of the production, especially on Music to Drive By, it's just phenomenal, And I just think straight checking them because I don't dance and some of the other songs that a little more. Always I was always, you know, I tried to be a little differently, you know. Um, that's why I did songs like I Don't Dance or you know, can I Kill It? Or you know, just songs that were different than the usual, you know, right, songs that were different than the usual. Hey man, you know, hood niggas, pistols, police, dope selling, you know. So, I you know, I was just an I wanted to be an artist first, even though from Compton in the neighborhood and all of that, Um, I want to be an artist or rapper first. So I felt, you know, having songs like the Ducks sick, I give up nothing, give it up. Uh, you know, final chapter, you get me songs like that, uh, straight checking them. I don't dance, uh, you know, songs that that third of way from just the typical Hey low wider Dayton's pistol and exactly. So, you know, I always try to be different. It's straight away from what everybody else was doing as far as thanks to Rap was concerned. You know, I think that's why you remain one of the best artists of all time from the genre there is. It is what it is man, you know, so and I never could play whatever it is up or down. You know. It's just, you know, I felt like I've done a a sort of contribution to hip hop as far as the West Coast is concerned, and my relationships that I've had with niggas on the East Coast, you know, puts me in the position to where I'm still you know, the garner a little respect from dudes, you know, and said that's much appreciated. Yeah, speaking of the East Coast, one thing I did want to bring up was, even though this is definitely not a gangster rap album, I just remember this was right around that's time. I was starting to really get into rap as a young young man or young youth as the wild would say. But the Run DMC, the first album the Streets of our area of Maryland d C. That that album, it's self titled album that had everything on fire Man because you had how this crew, you had Sucker MCS. You know, it was like that album to me as I was starting to understand rap and get into it, really, I started saying, like, wait a minute, this is what people are feeling in a different way than I think what I was starting to understand about people like Curtis Blow and loved his songs, but they felt Run d m C in a different way to me, uh what I was seeing. And that was the first one that I remember as I looked back that had that kind of different element and different field because Sucker m sees was so hard and so stripped down and so angry. You know, that element, I guess you could say that was on street Ship. You didn't me because you said they had wraps like Sucker MCS. They had shipped like hard Times and ship Man, come on man, you know, and then they would go to songs like rock Box or or you know, ship like that. But they was our first you know, element of street too, because you know that Motherfucker's been had a flashy outfits that Motherfucker's was used to niggas was in jeans and fucking you know, pimp chaps and motherfucking leather coats and ship. They represented the block and the hood and ship. You know, you might have didn't hear tales of an actual yeah HOMEI got you know, the homie wind popto was drug selling, but they had a way of describing hood tales and shipped to niggers coming from that era, you know what I'm saying, So I guess you could say that too. Yeah, hard times and it's like that in particular off that album. Those two were the quote like eight saying. They weren't like, oh, I'm on the block slanging or doing whatever, but they were also like talking about things in a way we saw maybe with the message and different things that had come out before it, but this was much more like sonically, especially, I think it matched the force and the energy and kind of the anger at times that Run and DMC had, But the beats were so hard and so stripped down that it was just like you know, you could feel when they said hard times where it's like that, you know, that's just the way exactly. I always kind of looked at that. It's like the message kind of they took the chorus of the message and kind of played off it because it's like a jungle. Sometimes it's like that, and that's the way it is exactly they described in the term still can you hear this snoring in the background, I'm just saying, can you pick? Are you hearing it? Ah? Because this this nigga loud is hell over here? Who is it? Oh? Man? He's knocked the funk out? I can't you know what I did here? A little something the background snoring like a grown ass motherfucking man who had had like fifteen shots last night or some liquor, and he just laid up shut off the eighth store over there over the front the weed he probably got stop stopping that nigga told out album wake up? Hey, So my um, you want to finish describing your picks? Still? Yeah, let me go back because I'm going to kind of playoffs. So it's Run DMC. Is the first Run DMC album? One of your picks? So yeah, that would be one of mine. Because mine I have being that I'm not from l A. And being that I also I have different entry points too, because what I was around and what I saw, like for instance, America's Most Wanted of course is one of the best albums of all time as his music to drive by, But to me they meant a lot. But to what was going on around me in Maryland when I would go or be in Baltimore or be in d C. Neither one of those two albums like are gonna say what my five would be at least four when I was a kid, because to me, part of the reason why I think I had my careers because I could feel what eight was saying in such a way that the first time I ever met Snoop back in like ninety whenever I met Snoop, he was like, I was asking about King T and Above the Law. He's like, oh, what part of l A are you from. I was like, I'm not from l A. I'm from Maryland, man, And he was blown away that to me, that music meant so much to me that I was asking him, Oh, Snoop, did this influence you or did you do this or do because of Above the Law or because of King T. But that's how I felt the music. But what I'm talking about the street effect, I'm gonna talk about more what I saw or my friends, or the cities. When I would go in the Baltimore, I go into d C. What I would see or here playing out of cars when I go to play basketball, when we were being a tournament or something. You know. Well, that's why these lists are always subjective versus being objective, because it's just our own personal opinions and what we feel. And it's like, you know, you named run DMC. I'm Richie from Cleveland, but I've been out in California since eighty seven. So my next pick, which was the Ghetto Boys gripping on another level that very much qualifies as against the rap album because there was three dudes from Houston, Texas talking ship. First of all, it was a fucking I remember the original Ghetto Boys when it was Um Prince, Johnny C and m Ready Red. So we went from having the car free records to where when they brought Willie d N and Scarface went from being DJ Action the Scarface, there was just some rapping motherfucker's and they was all so different. Willie deep was like the big country dude. There was like a city dude to talk a bunch of ships. There was really what people's ass in the streets. And you heard about these fights that he made got in because I heard about him with somebody's ass from east side of Cleveland before the end store. Well he's a he's a real boxer though too. On top of all that, yeah, yeah, we all got swabbos, you know, so we all got squabbles. And then it was just the misied man. And then it was the ship they was talking about like it was almost kind of like they were part gangster rap, part horror Corgan's they were talking about, you know, slicing women up. Like those records couldn't have got made today and instinctive as area we're here right now, those records would have been banned for sure, a whole lot of them. And so that's why I picked the Ghetto Boys. I think they brought something new. It was like a new experience, right and again another visual group because if you noticed during that time period, a lot of songs didn't have looks on them. It would be just kind of the instrumental ride for about twenty thirty seconds you know what I mean, almost to give your brain kind of trying to reflect on the ship you just heard for the past minute, and it was just real visual. Now my other one Ice Tea was like my introduction to West Coast rap. I remember when I first heard six in the Morning. I was in the projects in Cleveland, the project Homeboy. You know, you got the homie in the hood that knows every rap from everywhere. He got every tape of ells, he got instants burned outside his crib. He just know everything and helps to know about hip hop, and he always got weeds. So I went over to Homie Ice Mike. Shout out to Homie Ice Mike. I went over to his crib, and I remember everybody was standing around like we was all kids too, man, And we heard the poem that Ice t had at the beginning of the song, the child was born in the East, one day into the West. He moved and all that ship and he had the music in the background. Then when a magnificent rhyme around the eel be designer if they ask you if from death, it was just so it was like, God, damn this ship as hard as a motherfucker. And that's when they was kind of like doing it pit rock guitars over the eight away drums and all that ship. And then when six in the morning came me and he told this story. It was so motherfucking just like it was so visual. And that was around the time the movie Colors that came out and all that, and I was going to the West Coast that year. That's when I was coming up to play football, and so all the homies kept telling me, man, you sure you want to be out there with them crips, them crypts is real dangerous. Man. I didn't know what the funding crip war blood was. So when I came out here, I'm the lone beach. I had a red Ohio state sweat shirt on and I was walking to the burger spot. There was a dude in the wheelchair and another Summonian dude named Joker pulled up on me that was like, Cuz, what did you were you from? Cuz? And I said Ohio. They said, oh, you're trying to be funny to do in the wheelchair like wrapped the strip, like the strip up under the blanket in his lap. And I was like, man, no, I'm from Ohio. And they started laughing, they said, because really from Ohio, they deliver see your driver's license, because and I pulled out my I d right to see it Ohio, so I gotta pass right and start hanging out with them due. So that's when I started getting to understanding of what the Crypts and the Blufs was. But Ice gave a very very visual reputation representation of what Los Angeles, California was at that time. Yeah, I got the I got the privilege of being able to see eight and Iced Tea perform earlier this year, and I was like eight. I was like, I gotta sit in the crowd this time because I haven't seen I was like, i'ven't seen iceed Tea performing in person in a long time. So I was like, I gotta be in the crowd because it's such a different experience from being on the side of the stage of backstage. And thanks for the shout out again on that eight because because I was for a long way eight, I was with fishing with Laman and my wife and we were like eight sauce rapping. But I was like, man, but Ice, I think Iced Tea really as time goes on, because he's such a prominent actor. People forget and Pitchman for doing all his commercials, but they forget what he gave the Rat and what he still gives the Rat. And I think that's one of the biggest travesties. So I think it's important Steal that you're bringing that up because you know Ryan Pay's power. You know ice Burg all these albums o G. They're phenomenal and his stories. The great thing about to me, the best gangster rap is something that eight did, something that iceed T did, schooly D did it too. But all the great artists, ice Cube, like we talked about earlier, they showed you to the cons of the game too. It wasn't just like, oh I'm the man, I'm getting all this stuff. It was about getting locked up. It was about their problems and how people the collateral damage that comes with the life. And Iced Tea, I think was one of the best and first people to do that on such a big scale. And Ron Pays. You know, it's definitely wonder them because he's running from the police. First thing, police at my door, so we already know that's a second line. Yeah, for Shure, and you know, going back to eight, it was so hard for me not to put We come strapped in there. You feel what I mean? And it was like, you know, you're trying to do this stuff is you? It's all subjective, but you want to be as a you don't want to miss nothing. You feel what I'm saying that. They almost feel like a travesty not to include that album because he's another one that gave you the pitfalls eight don't been burned on songs. It ain't just been about him getting shot. He's been that. Gonna cut STDs on songs, don't cut std fun with the herd rad bitch of this ship. He don't got jack before. He don't. You don't, you don't got arrested. My tails are. I just try to tell a motherfucker like you know, a lot of niggas, you know, want to be the victorious. You know, I sold a hundred thousand birds and I'm bawling, and you know I'm there or I'm not. I've always liked the educator nigga on the pitfalls of being in the neighborhood because everything is not glorious. You get me. Yeah, there's some niggas who's ball and ship, but they eventually get popped, sent up, go to the beds, get jack, come invaded, killed, whatever. So I just always wanted to tell niggas the pitfalls of being from the neighborhood. Yeah, we loved it, you get me. Wasn't trade it for nothing. You give me. If I had to go back and do it all over again, nigga still do it all over again, ragging the back pockets, strapping the motherfucking under the seat, getting jacked by the police every day. But you know, there was always a motherfucking there was always an insight to it, you nit me, because I always went to jail, or always got busted with a gun in my car, or got shot at it or you really you didnt me. So even though it was glorious to a nigga, we still had to, you know, go through those pitfalls of being from the neighborhood. And that's what I wanted to tell in my chails. I didn't just wanted to glorify. Everybody had low riders and banging, and we were the strong power and ruthy win. Don't tell a nigga like, yeah, the homie went to jail for life, or the homie got chilled, or hey, I got a question for you on that exact point, because I noticed from listening to your music since the beginning, since the Comptent compilation. But my question is, why do you think because you, in particular and the other great artists we mentioned have done that, why do you think so many people don't acknowledge that or pay attention to it when they talk about Comptence most wanted the gangster rap that it's always so much of the glorifying or the negativity. They don't look at the fact that no MC is telling you all these bad things that happened to him, that he's seen bad happen, Like why do they not? Because to me I always saw that. I always was like whoa, I guess um because I just fell into that motherfucking category of being a gangster net from Compton. You get me And to others who were against that, um you, they never want to recognize you know, like you always see the bad. You will never see a motherfucker give back to the neighborhood or when they go out and by turkeys or do little ship for the schools or whatever. Um I was. It was just the category of being against the rapper and Compton's most wanted And I think that's what had a lot of effect on it. When you heard the word Compton and you looked at the videos and you saw them, you know, the imagery and magazines or whatever. A lot of people didn't get that. Um. They just saw you know, niggas and khaki suits with with raiders caps on and talking about Compton and drive by killings and Ship. But they never wanted to analyze that. A lot of the Ship that I told was the pitfalls of it. You get me, You you sucked with a hood rack, you got burnt. Uh, you did a drive by, You go to prison, You get me. Uh. Niggas come through and catch you slipping, you die, you get me? Uh. That was my tails. It wasn't like nigga. We was at the park today having a ball and the picnic and everybody was barbecuing and drinking forties and Ship. I couldn't tell them stories because Ship, when we go to the park and have a barbecue, somebody comes through and blast that motherfucker, or the police end up jacking everybody, and somebody end up going to jail, or we all go to jail. So I would tell you that progress you give me, but some people, you know, didn't recognize it. Some people did, and some people would give me, you know, props for um. I think I've seen something not too long ago where somebody was talking about that. You know, how up as, these classified gangster rappers influenced the youth of today. And it's our fault because niggas is going out killing everybody and doing ship. And I would tell motherfucker's you know, I never glorified the hood like that, you know, And then I saw somebody would say, well, eight would tell the pitfalls of it. Eight would never glorify being from the neighborhood, even though he was from the neighborhood. He would always tell you at the end of his songs, the homely got killed, they ended up going to prison for life or you know, that was the scenario. And that's the real life outlook, you know, on a lot of us who came from the neighborhood, you know, not being rappers ship. You know, before I was rapping, I was just a regularized kid running around Jane Banning and we went to jail every other day for lortering Bonice come through, pick us up, drive us around, throw us in the motherfuckerselves. Niggas come through blasting. We're on the corner every day, six seven niggas trying to tell, you know, to one car just to make ends me because when you go home, you get me. You know, when you're living in poverty and minds are struggling and ship like that, you gotta tell them tales man, because you gotta let motherfucker's know that. You know, the pitchfalls are being from the neighborhood is not all glorified. So that was just something I always wanted to do as far as my contribution. Some people recognize that, some people didn't. Yeah, well, you know what. Eight was great at the introspective stuff in It's a song. I gotta give Iced Tea some credit. On Dog Really Had Me. It was the first song I heard about prison. They're really Scared the funk out of Me on the O G album. It was on the original Gamester album The Tower, when of the greatest fucking rap songs ever fucking wrote you know Where. He was like, I'm rolling up in a big gray bust and I'm shackled down myself though that's who I trust. The minute I arrived. Some sucking gout hit shank ten times behind some bullshit. It was just a real ship. Like when he said that ship I stuck, I stuck with twice in the nick and lefting they in the yard. I was like, oh, this ship hard is a motherfucker. I used to it's the hardest motherfucker ever. And they get paid and niggas got and we got you know, band or whatever, because but niggas was just telling tales from from from situations you did me, because the ship was really happy, man, you get me. It was niggas getting stuck on the prison yard. You get me killed, niggas be on that bus shackled like man out of fucked up. Man, you gave me. It's it's it's it's real hard life and some people don't understand it. And the way for us to express it. What's the rap music you did me had? Also, the music had like the Halloween type of music from them. Yeah, And it just scares you because man, when I heard that ricking, you gotta remember I'm old now, but I was young at that time. We was younger at that time. When I heard it, I was like, oh my god, man, that's also remember two Similarly, the moment I feared by slick Rick exactly whoa whoa? I only I don't want no part of that. Yeah, it was and slick Rick. You know what, man. And that's the thing about gamester rapper. I think sometimes some artists like to me, cougie rappers against rapper. To me, carriss one is against rapper. To me, justice is against rapper. To me, school he is against rapper. It's not just the West Coast thing or here. You could be for wherever. If you tell me, you know, you gotta be. Because even though they didn't talk blood and crypt ship, that was the introduction. Do you know what I'm saying? The East Coast? To me, those those were niggas that I bumped, you know, faithfully, because that was as a young motherfucker getting introduced to kid pop um. Them niggas represented the streets. You give me school. Listen to this in eight six, This is what school, he said. Part side my placing home. The PSK gangsters like the room Sheba in her hand, thirty two on her socks, protecting our turf like it was Fort Knox. That's her ship. Yeah, here's my gang, here's our corner. And if you come around. We got something for you. That's dang banging all day and that was eighty six so like and that's on the park Side five too. That want to listen to that song, But like I remember hearing that and in Maryland. Thankfully I didn't grow up in a super crazy area anything, but it was only one or two. It wasn't that far away. But we didn't have it. We had more crews and neighborhoods and stuff like that in Baltimore, DC or places I would go, but it wasn't like you don't come on fifty two and Parkside like school. He made me believe, you know, I'm not going to Philly. If I go to Philly, I do not want to end up on fifty two Street and park Side Avenue. I do not want to go you know, you know you being from that part of the country. Man, kick your top five. Kick your top five right now. I'm interested to hear with this. This is hard given how we kind of change what it is. So remember but the five I think impacted what I saw a different times in my life of the streets per se was the running m C Publican Demia takes the Nation of millions to hold us back straight out of Compton, n w A. And then I gotta say, uh, the chronic and ghet O D by Master P. Okay, that's interesting that I can. I can see that Dom Ghetto D is the only one I was in college. I had graduated from college when that came out, but I went to college in Ohio. It's Cincinnati A Xavier. Yeah, I can. Oh, my god. I had seen him at Dayton, Ohio perform during like the ice Cream Man error or something, and I was like, who is this dude, Mr P And why is he performing in Dayton, Ohio. I didn't believe he would be able to have a show there at that time, but it was sold out and people with daan't Ohio it would go on nuts and as both y'all know, that's Roger and Zapp, that's that's you know, they got the music there. So the Ghetto D album not only was it affecting all over the country, which I hadn't seen yet because we didn't go I only went on two vacations my whole life as a kid. We weren't like traveling around the world or anything. I was pretty much in Maryland, so I didn't see other parts of the country until I went to college. But I'll did they know how to show? And then also I used to study Billboard every week religiously. And I remember when Ghetto D and eight. You remember this, When the album would come out rarely, but sometimes it would chart the week before because the mom and pops and the other stores would sell the illegally quote unquote before it came out. Now, the thing I'll never forget about master p with Ghetto D and this let me know the streets or into it. It charted at like a hundred sixty eight of all albums before it was even out, so that many people were buying it before it even was legally for sale, that it made the top two D not a rap of music. And I just remember, like in Maryland people were loving it, and Ohio people were loving it. And I had started traveling for writing, you know, thankfully my career had started taking off, so I was going to different cities. I was going to the South, I was coming to l A. I was in New York all the time, and I just remember I I had never experienced anything like Ghetto D, where it seemed like the whole country was like Ryan for this dude, and then that album just blew up, so that one, that one, it was just crazy to see that in real time and being able to travel. So I gotta say, Ghetto d Uh is one of them. Man. So you got Ghetto d Master, P Run DMC, what was your other? What was your other? Three takes the Nation of Millions, the holest back Uh straight Compton by w A and then the Chronic by Dr Dre And I can go through all five or how y'all want to do it, but man, what I want to come back to this is the big debate right here. The Chronic is probably the greatest rap album of all times. The biggest debate no between that in way because you gotta go an impact right without in w A L the Chronic might not be shipped well. One of the things that I noticed and from for me and my area in Maryland, that straight out Compton did that was very different was and it started really what easy does it? Because that came out first, But I never forget. I was in uh home economics or wood shop class in middle school and this white boy who I had never heard talk about rap, ever, I had everything. This dude came up to me with the Easy Does It on cassette and he was like, Yo, we heard this ship Sore. I was like, yeah, I love easy Man. He goes, man, this is this is amazing. And the thing that I noticed was that the white kids that had heard Rapper did or whatever, for whatever reason Easy Does It in Strail Compton, but more Strail Compton, even though it came out later, that really changed them for whatever reason, to get into wrap in a way I had not because this is so I've been listening to rap all day, every day for three or four years at that time, but that album all these white dudes at my school because I basically only had black people to talk to in my school that love rap because no one else did at that time. And as y'all know, that changed a little bit later, you know, until where it was like so many white people like rap, but not in my In my school, it was unusual until and it was something about Easy Does It and some about Strail Compton in eighty nine where they were like, oh, we can listen to this or in a different way because running m C. I think, at least in my experience, it was more they liked Walked This Way. Didn't like Running MC. They like that song for whatever reason too. They weren't listening to the Sucker mcs. They weren't listening to the Hard Times or it's like that, you know, even though those are huge songs, it was more we like, they're like more of the poppy stuff because you know, Walked this Way it was a big song. That was the Aerosmith cross over. It was just a big record cause I remember me being in the highway at that time at all. It's kind of like places that I hung out with my white friends, like you know, the road with skating rink and all that and those little shitty gloves. They're back in the house. They would just play that song and that was them playing rap. And then eventually it became like with Tone Low, that's the same type of records, like you know with Tone Look, which interested enough. Tone Look was the first person game banging on wats but made the least games to rap music, but was the biggest creep out there. Tone Yeah, Look, Tone Look made the pop made pop music, you feel what I'm saying. He made pop music, but he was a gamester to dude, and I think that was the thing in that era, I think with eight and them did because it was some really regional good. It was some good regional gates to wrap in the nineties like nineties nine, like you had cats like the Dayton family. You had top authority, and if you went to Ohio, if you were in Ohio, Indianapolis, you know, in Ohio, Indiana or Michigan, you would have swerping down. Top authority was platinum for the Dayton family because every truck that drove by was them dudes, and it was like that was day comptence most wanted. And they see what I'm saying, that was their version. Everybody had their own version of in dethituate around the country and it made it some pretty dope hip hop. And during that time you can kind of fall off your bid and see thirty thousand records. Remember, of course eight knows. But that's why I'm bringing up the same thing with the MC breeding DFC, because exactly DFC was huge to man, especially huge I had to benefit and part of the reason why I wanted to go to Ohio was to get to see a different part of the country. So when I did go to college and I was able to go to Cleveland and Columbus and Dayton and Cincinnati and Lexington and Louisville and all these places because all the people in my school were from there. So I'd be like, hey, can I go hold with you for the weekend? I want to see what it's like. And I got to do all that. That's where I gained a deeper appreciation. And even people in the South like April and MJ. G were huge and Cincinnati, so it's like, you know, you just see and hear all these different things when you're able to get around. And that's why to me that ghetto d by Master P was such a not only because I agree everything is still saying, but I also think the Master P was times a thousand. You know. It's just a different level of the games. Yeah know, because you got to see it there see. And don't get me wrong, I'm a master P fan. I think you can't help but love what his movement was. You know, he's a dude that came because he wasn't necessarily the best rapper in the world, but just his hustle and his driving, his determination kind of makes you want to want see the motherfucker win. You know what I'm saying, and he did his ship. You know, I just think it was a lot of um. I just think as far as independence go, during that time, it was a lot of great independent albums too that may not necessarily be worthy of that top five spot or whatever like that. But then something you may talk to somebody that's from Cleveland, Ohio, from Detroit, Michigan, and they may swear, but down the day the Dayton Family got the best gamester Rap album of all time, and some of that ship may be valid that they may have valid opinions. I think they got valid points. But I think as far as now man, I think that air makes that are so specialist that people actually it was a method behind the madness. People was actually talking about sit gamester Rap made some of the best political statements and songs, you know what I'm saying, Like Ice Cue with Black Career, You know what I'm saying, A song that couldn't be made the day because it would be mr It would be looked at as um anti Semitic and all kinds of other stuff. You know what I mean, Right, we would be looked at in a certain way. But they actually made statements back then. It just wasn't about senseless violence. It was all like a method behind the madness. And today man versus today to where you get a dude to sell like A said, a million bricks, he is sell a million killer Grahams. And he got away because his girlfriend was in there at fans or whatever. He was sucking her or whatever. He got away in the helicopter. He wait, you see what I'm saying exactly like you're saying. Still, how many damn helicopters are there in reality? Exactly? Man, So you know you got motherfucker's But all these tales, and I always remember that this is just entertainment at the end of the day. It's entertainment. But I still think the ship meant a little bit more back then. Well, I think too. And eight let me ask you this eight building off what's steel saying? I remember it seemed to me and when I was starting to get into writing and the interview artists, it also seemed like the things switched from being great or being respected for your work too in the mid to late nineties, I think it changed into the quote unquote the hustle or I'm gonna get paid off of this. Did you see a switch yourself artistically, of course it is, but I want to see from eight from the artistic side what he saw as his career progressed of that if at all. Um, Basically it started the era of you know, like you said, it started that era of I'm a hustler, Um, I'm I'm I'm gonna get mine. Um. It changed to more of about you know, what I can gather as far as you know, uh, the glitz and glamor of hip hop. You get me. Uh, Nigga started to speak more on their wealth and and the ship that they could accumulate as to when I first started, Uh, it was more about your lyricism and if you can capture niggas with your word play and what you had to say, you get me. Thus, niggas like fucking uh ice Q, and then niggas like ll Ale or early Nads or you know, just the whole rap scene in general. You know, Um, you have to be respected for your four what you brought as far as what you had to say to a motherfucker you know, Um, you gotta tell me something as to you know, that error changed them to more of you know, uh, you know the glitch, the glamour, the money, you know, the jury, the flossiness, the cars um. To me, it just changed the aspect of of being a truan see and it got away from um, you know, trying to capture motherfucker's with songs. Asked too, let's just do a lot of hookie ship and get people to sing alone. And and and it was you know, not to say that anything was bad with the hustle and wanting to you know, show your wealth or whatever. But I didn't come from that era to get me. I came from the era of being humble and just trying to get on and trying to make a way of getting out of the hood because of of of the mishaps of which you might fall into. You get me going to prison, getting killed, you know, mama struggling, you got you know, baby mama, and ship like that. So it was more about us trying to express what was going on with us in the neighborhoods and trying to make a way out of being stuck in fucking shit. You get me as opposed to no, I'm a rapper about nigga, you know, I'm a rapper about my lexus in my chain and my bank account and you know, you know what I bought today and ship like that. So it just changed a little bit of the dynamic of hip hop for us who were brought up on You know, nigga, you you got a rap to get in this ship you give me. I don't give a funk about how much money you've got for you. You better know how to wrap or how you ain't gonna you ain't gonna make it. You feel me, So I'm gonna tell you I love Mr P. I love Mr P bought all these records, but openly that's why Master people weren't around that long, because he wasn't as good of a rapper, and that was his whole thing, Um was I'm not a wrapper, I'm a hustle. And I was cool with that. It was cool he could tell you so off the p this is not no this at all. That man made fool cool money. Mr Pe made stupid money, and he paid the way for a lot of other people to have careers. He was a great businessman. Even today he's still making moves. Mass be up there and everything from corn flakes, shoes cereal dog like hustler, Donna hustle, right, my nigga know how to hustle the games, and I don't think he was ever on the on the motherfucking uh, the assumption of I'm gonna be a fucking ice cube or a fucking Tupac. You didn't know, motherfucker, where I'm from. We got certain phrases and certain ways we do ship, certain ways we hustle, and I'm a motherfucking I'm gonna serve that you get me. I'm gonna serve up with my people like and he knew you get me. It was smart because ain't nobody was pushing for what they was doing, and he decided, fuck that, I'm gonna push my own ship. You feel me, and I'm and no, I ain't. I ain't gotta be the best motherfucking lyricists. He made away because it's all kind of motherfucker's that's selling a lot of records dogs, not just like Gucci man. You got cats like Gucci man. You got a whole bunch of these motherfucker's that's out there. Made a lot of money. They sell the records. I'm not gonna lie. Some of the records is jamming everything I know. The cater to my customers that's the hustle mentality. Cater to your customers and then let everybody else fall along. But I'm gonna serve up my customers what they want from where I'm from, and then that's just just gonna fluctuate to other motherfucking places. You get me, because eventually they're gonna like my ship or whoever whoever. They're gonna take my ship over here, and somebody over there gonna like it, and then one person over here gonna take my ship. But right now, I'm gonna concentrate and cater to my customers. You get me. And that's how I'm gonna build my foundation by supporting my customers. And that's how the niggas got to win. They didn't worry about the niggas who felt like you gotta be a lyrical genius or whatever, because where I'm from, the niggas talk like this and they hustle like this. So let me cater to them and bring and push that ship, and then everything else will follow. And it did, it did, It definitely did. And that's why I too remember two with Master P. I think he was one of He wasn't the first, but I remember he did it on every album, and on several songs. Remember at the end of the songs he shout out since each shout out like fifty cities, and he shouted out the cities that didn't get didn't have either a big rap scene or that is being c markets. So like, you know, I'm shouting out Louis, I'm shouting out Cincinnati. I'm shouting out exactly, shouting out loss of Vegas or whatever it was. But he did that religiously and I think that really affected people because I know in Ohio when I was in college, that mattered to them so much because in Cincinnati they didn't have that big rap scene. You know. So when someone's shouting out with Cincinnati, Ohio on a song, whoa what is this? Let me ride with this dude? And it worked. Yeah, it work big time. And you know somebody else and I ain't trying to get too much off your list. But we talked about quality, right lyricism and beat selection and all that stuff that just goes into making a great artist, right because at the end of the day, it was entertainment. You know. It's just like if Ronald Schwartz and I could go out and shoot fifty people in the movie. We don't believe that movie was real. It was just great entertainment for that hour or two hours we was in the theater. Right, So you look at a cat like Rick Ross, for example, Rick Ross is a bad motherfucker. He's a bad boy, dope as lyrics, got prop possibly top five as far as beat selection, as far as you know, crafting songs and putting stuff together. Ross makes some fireship. But is it believable or is it even about that? It was it just you know, because it's all entertainment and I'm not knocking them, but I'm just asking that question is should we judge these artists on basis of them being how authentic they are or are they making the best piece of art? Well, um, I mean to me, this makes sense what I'm saying. I mean, I get what I mean, I get what you I mean. But it all is, it's all in the imagination of what a motherfucker feel he wants to do with making a song. Because I don't necessarily have to be speaking on me, you get me. I could just be making this song in general, because this is the perception I get from what I see or what I spee over that happens. You get me, uh am I the nigga shipping thirty keys across the motherfuckering whatever I could be or I could not be, you get me. But the perception is, this is the song that I want to make because I know a lot of motherfucker's bill in that area. You get me. There's a lot of niggas on the streets who knows what I'm speaking on and if I want to have treat credibility, because that's the direction I'm going with my music and my image. I'm not going, uh you know, I'm not going to common route or the tribe called quest route or the L. L. Cool J Route. I'm going the route of the inner city nigga coming from poverty who have hustled his way up to whatever. So this could be the perception, Like I said, could it beat me? You never know. But what I'm trying to do is I'm just trying to make a song and paying the story for niggas that might be in this ship or niggas who feel they like music. Who tells stories of the hustler, the nigga who balling, the nigga who got a hundred bitches. You're getting me in, you know, so you you can't perceive sit just like you said with a movie. And I know people uh tend to hold us to credibility a little more when speaking on records or the perception with videos or you're saying that you this person. People hold us to that standard because we're making records, right, because when you're get in the studio and you're talking about you know, you know, I pull out the the I pull out the pistol and a blasts and nigga and I'm miss and I'm not. That's the perception how that you've given off to the people, to the that's the perception you given off. That's an important point eight. And I think that's the difference is that name any actor or actress you want when they're done, they're acting, and the differences that think and the problem is in rap, a lot of the rappers, not all of the courts, have always said I this is my life, this is me and then when they rap about it, then they don't want to be accountable for it because but wait, it's just a song. Well no, you can't say this is all real and this is what I've done and then run from it. Because you know, Christian Belle isn't saying I'm Batman after exactly, He's not saying I jumped off these buildings and beat up the joker and didn't like No, he's an actor. So like when you hear a rapper, that's the difference. If the rapper just said, like what Ah just said. Again, they might not listen to what eight said, but at least eight seven and the differences all these street dudes real or imagined they are in this business of saying, like so many popular rappers now that have been in the game for a decade plus still rapping about selling thirty kilos a month, I'm like, dude, you would be incarcerated seventeen times over like no way and that in this ain't in no way of not towards if you're making the one to answer that right quick though. That's why I say it's a It's a line between presenting your ship as as as music you get me, or or presenting your ship as yeah, I'm I'm the biggest boss and and I'm the hardest street killer, or like nigger I pulled up on the ops and I shot a nigger. You get me now? Now you got that perception from the streets. Okay, okay, you oh you got that. Okay, because new niggas don't want to just make music you give me, or you don't want to hypothetically say in this record you get me. Oh Johnny did this or Frank did this? You want to be Frank or Johnny. Right, So now that's the pitfalls of Now you see why gang of motherfucker's is falling into a gang of bullshit nowadays, because oh, that's what you wanna be. You're saying you're the hardest nigga and use the fucking you're the fucking killer and you're the biggest cheelo drug dealer. Okay, no problem. Now we either gonna come Now, we're either gonna come checking your door, uh, try to take your ship, or you're gonna you know, that's the situation and the line between trying to just make me music for people to enjoy. Well, like they say, I was a storyteller, Yeah, I'm gonna telling your story. I'm not saying that's me. I'm just telling you a story. I'm not saying eight jumped out the motherfucking I'm just hypothetically saying this might happen. You never see me say yeah, nigga, I jumped out the bushes with the h A and are killing niggas and whatever whatever, Because that's the difference between the days of when I told stories as to now. It seems like when niggas make records, they want to glorify this position or you know, they want to glorify the the craziness of of what we used to try to keep silent. You give me how all motherfucker's know that I'm selling thirty keys? I don't want you to give me. It's like that John Gotti complex, Like I gotta let the motherfucking know, like this is me type ship, like when you're supposed to be quiet about ship. But I guess that's the world of of of the difference of of you know, trying to make just music and songs for people and then giving people to present perception that you want to be a you know, a killer or a drug dealer or you get me yeah, and you know, and put that out there to clarify something I said about Ross. The type of music Ross makes is South Miami music and the area where he comes from. You know, he's an eighties later eighties nineties guy, it was all kind of dope deep boys down there. So I'm pretty sure he's speaking of the experience of seeing all that he saw down there, and he probably hustled a little bit, probably hustled a lot. We don't know. Like he said, he could have been a man down there for all we know. But to the average here just listening to that stuff, it just seems so far affected that we always have to remember. I do think that it deals in the team because it is far fast. She doesn't know the real noriega. Come on, come on, come on ahead, come so, I come on, man. But that was a hard ass line. You gotta be. But but I guess you would have to. I guess you would have to. Uh, you know how, Like you said, movies now they make movies that they go they are based off of true stories, right, and then there's movies like you said, when you see a motherfucking jump out, you see it. They can jump off for the building and land on his feet and kill up every alien and ship not leave with a scratch. Right, You have to differentiate the truth from from the hypothetical and what you sit up there and go like, man, my nigga said, you know the real Noriega. What you like? What you even contemplate that? Like? Man, he said, you know the real Noriega. Man, know the real norriea At And still my favorite movie. My favorite movie is Hollywood Shuffle. I don't know if y'all remember the movie. So y'all remember this exactly what it is saying. You remember when they did sneaking in the movies and they had the Chicago Jones playing off Indiana Jones and the ed to the cliff and they jump off the cliff and when they land him and his girl, he's like, yo, you're okay. She goes, yeah, just to run in my stockings and they just jump off a cliff. That's my favorite movie. So you got you as a as a man, you just got to like, you gotta really just sit there and analyze and be like, Okay, that's that's that's clever ship to say. And you just have to take it from there because it's been entertainment, you know, it's it's it's for it's for for nigga telling street tales and for a lot of niggas who know the real Noriega and what was behind the real Noriega. That that's a that's a good ass rap line for a nigga. You get me to say that I'm a hustler and I know the real Noriega because everybody knows the story behind Noriega. You get me if you don't watch the all the drug documentaries are all the tales of the government and the drugs and all that, you know, Noriega was significant. So for rat nigga who speaking from the aspect that I come from the hustle game, you get me saying a line like Nigga, Nigga, I know the I know Noriega. Nigga that the all this nigga this thing? Did he know the real Noriega? This nigga getting bookoo dope, you get that's what's that. As an average ask nigga who popping in his CD, spent to it and he owned the streets hustling, he gonna be like, Yeah, that nigga, that dash you get me, and that's the effect won't have you get me? He won't that effect on the nigga who out on the block every day hustling his packs and ship making his money from that, and the nigga go nigga, I'm hustling nigga. I know the real Noriaga nigga. He know he owed me a hundred favors. Hey, you know the first thing they're gonna say though, really like because he already speaking in the tons of I'm the hustler nigga. Nigga, I nigga, I know about key lows and work and all that. So when the nigga dot nigga, I know the real noriaga nigga, nigga owed me a hunted favors. That making nigga go, who for real nigga? That nigga danger? Did you get me to an average? And that's just a nigga listening to a song. That's the effect he wanted them to half exactly. And you know what the thing about that he was like when Ross had that beet with fifty cent, you know what, fifty couldn't pull it off over on him. Ross's music was immaculate. Regardless of what you said about everything, all the other ship that came back to the music, Ross was making way better music than Like I said, Man, you know, when you in this game of hip ho hop whatever, um, you know, you gotta be able to craft music. You get me. It's just not about just rapping and shipped and throwing down a record and whatever. You gotta be able to craft songs and music. And you know, it's fortunate that you know a lot of artists who have came along, you know, like Ross, like you know, Snoop fifty Cube. You know, they have been able to climb to up songs that are ever lasting, you know, not just over, you know, not just put out some ship that nigger here today and go on tomorrow. And so that's what that's what the nature of of hip hop and being great for to be in this ship, you have to be able to make ship like that that's decades, you know, lasting. You did me, not just to fly by night ship. So before we get out of your dog, because we enjoyed this conversation so much, we don't miss running rent at the time. Top five albums, though, I'm gonna just I'm gonna do my ship like this, my top five what were we doing? Gangster ships? Streak Ship affected the streets. I'm gonna do this like this, the top five artists that affected streat Ship to me, I'm gonna go school e D. I'm gonna go easy. I'm gonna go Totty T and I'm gonna go um k RST and Scott lar Rock, criminal minded, great fucking lists and great list, all those things, all those boar. And that's as far as my introduction to street ship. That's what I heard. You get me. I heard PSK banging in every hood nigga card on in l A from here to fucking New York. Okay, you heard motherfucking criminal minded South Bronx banging. That was some hood ship to me. You get me. Um, So those are niggas Totty t on the West coast. As far as gangster ship, the batter Ram, you know, Totty t is is the one who introduced niggas to making street records because he used to put out T d K tapes and he used to wrap over all the motherfucking the whod need if it was who d e be? If it was fucking uh, He had a motherfucking The battle round was off of remember Wrapping Duke. Remember the Wrapping Dukes single. That was the first battle round. It was on a T d K tape and Tydt wrapped the battle raum off a wrapping Duke you give me, and that tape just floated around content He had all of like everything that was going on in the neighborhoods before Easy, before any street motherfucker I knew about. It was Todd Mixed Master, Spain, d J M. Wall all in Niggas. They had t D capes folding around and it was just nothing but hood tales. Everything was about Darryl Gates and the L A p D And the drug raids and and and the Clucks coming out at night and how they were serving in Track Park and all of your like freaks come out that night. Day song was called the Clucks come out that night and they talked about how they were serving in trig New Park and blah blah blah. You know, it was extraordinary to me as a twelve year old kid walking around ride my bike in the streets to Compton, and then you go to the hood and Nigga's banging his motherfucking tape on his boom box and you got this nigga wrapping over the little You remember how they used to put the little echo on the ship back in the days and ship, so you got this nigga rapping about Nigga Nigga five Old came through last night. They raided and Gil Gates in the battle ram over here and Nigga I'm in the hood and they talked about your neighborhood. That was gangs. That was then instroduction of street shipped to me so you know. And then going over to the East coast Krst one because him in Scotland Rock with the bridges over in South Bronx and poetry and criminal A did man. Then I had the poetry single Man and I thought that was the I thought that was the greatest ship ever made, like just all these niggas, it's on some different ship. You get me. That's what I first thought. But but then he has had the album cover with the guns and the ship, you know, and I'm like, oh, there's some gangster niggas. They was just from the East Coast. So that was my introduction to the East Coast street ship you get me. So that's what that's what I say. That's my contribution. Yeah, man, hey, you close without and its intergretting you bring t t up because Todd, who don't do the interviews with nobody, has said he's coming on the show. Oh that's good. Is an original, you get me. And for a lot of people who don't know about Todd, you know, he had the Battle Roum single that got picked up by Ethic that was on each first. But like I said, that ship started out on the tv K take wrapping off for Rapping Duke. That rapping Duke. That's where sucking the Battle round pains from. And a lot of people they go, they jumped to the easy eating you know, because easy had you know, the world without it wouldn't be no king. But when they come to Hampton, gangster rap and the motherfucking originality and the origin it started with Toddy t mixed Master Spade and just telling the tales of like growing up in the hood, you get me. And so for every motherfucking nigga who was banging in Campton or l A, you had that fucking T d K taping. You had that tape and you had them strongs. What they was talking about, the hoods, the selling dope, they was talking about, the hood rats and the straw b areas, they were talking about the clubheads. They basically was giving you a description of the city and what was going on before Nigga's even made it to whack you give me, So you gotta give Todd his his problems? Are you real quick? You almost have to say you can almost say that T d T and Mixed Masters fade recipes are the godfathers a rap in coming. Now. If now nigga's gonna dispute that, it was probably you know niggas who was putting out ship before them. But to me, that's my significance of dankster rap and my introduction to uh, you know, neighborhoods and writing on wax. Like I said, because we was just little young niggas, you get me. We were just little young niggas riding on our bikes in the hood whatever. Nobody was talking about what was going on, you get me ship that we were seeing on the regular. Because it was the ship that was going on. We didn't think that was, you know, important enough for people to know about nigga. We was getting ship every night, that's not new. Niggas was getting blasted on every night and ye have niggas was selling crack pieces that if you want to be you get me. So we never looked at that ship like. But when Todd put it on record and he started, you know it laid niggas feel like, oh yeah, you know Ship. This is significant because now people will get to know about really what's going on. And that's just to me how the introduction of our gangster ship from Compton started. Like, I don't know who was before Todd. It could have been a plenty of few and or who knows, But to me as an eleven twilve year old, thirteen year old kid, you get me, uh, coming out of that air of being a kid, you know, watching cartoons on Saturdays and ship like that too, you know, being in the backyard with niggas and they got douce deuces and niggas got forty ounces and you got a nigger on the boom box blast and Toddy t talking about watch out for the battle ram and you know, nigga's gonna come through blasting and you know this how you serve a nigga and watch out for the one time and the clucks and on that. That was my mother's sucking introduction to the hood. Well, I would say, man, you know, even if it was somebody before time, they wasn't didn't had a significance yet, So to me, Todd is the godfather always recognized lin I said no disrespect to no other nigga or whatever. You know, Easy was very significant and I always, like I said, we want Easy album was very significant to you know coming up. Uh, but Totty t was you know, and and eight like we've been saying this whole show. Don't also had just say no something exactly. It was always it was yeah, he could tell you I'm serving, but he was also telling you. Darrel Gates was coming with that battle ram you did me. There was no fucking positive I don't look like you get me. But then I'm gonna tell you just say no too. And on all that ship. Then I had songs like do you want to go to the liquor store and party jams and you give me? So everything wasn't always negativity, but we still got to give you that descriptive ship. You get me because like you said, so my nigga told you about how we were serving and selling. But then at the end he say, what just say no to drugs because look what the funk it do to you? You give me and turn you into a cluckhead and funked up your family or at the end of the day, maybe you're going to do thirty. You get me, you're going to do thirty in the beds, So just say no at the end of the day and then you'll be like still looking at the tower. Well, man, we on that note. Man, we gonna shut it down. Man, we appreciate you, guys. Tune me and man, remember, subscribe to the new channel. Subscribe to the new channel. Follow us on our social media platforms. We're all trying to again, staring, trying to get popping. Like eight eight got the million million followers and all that ship in the blue, and then I ain't bought no boxing, no motherfucking followers. So nigga, my ships is all authentic. I ain't paid for none. So Eight's still on eights, still on the load with the followers and ship. You see niggas with thirty million followers and eighty million followers. Man, I know you come followed, but we don't do the boxing, we don't do the pain for ship and none of that. We're trying to keep it authentic here. Hey, I think they know the real Noriega, right, Yeah, don't want to know the real Noriega. They got a billion followers, man, not not me. I'm just a simplified their The man keep ussemming for sure when we out of here at peace, chill H.