Mark Duffield is the chief football writer at The West Australian, Glen Quartermain is the sports editor of The Sunday Times. Coming into round five, they discuss:

• Optus Stadium's surface concerns (1:00).
• Could veterans be rested from Optus Stadium? (4:26)
• Is the bump back (6:34).
• When should Aaron Sandilands be rested? (10:30)
• The AFL's 'disgraceful' grand final contract (11:46)
• Questions (19:58)