We're Officially On In Salt Lake City!

Published Jan 13, 2025, 4:26 PM
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It's the tangent giving you all this shit we couldn't talk about on the air. All right, guys, it's our offare uncentered. Podcast's been very busy, very busy around here. We're picking up cities like crazy, but we still only have thirteen listeners. So now we're on in a few different places, but only we still only have thirteen. I don't understand, Like that makes no sense to me, Like the only people in Chicago, the only people listening. I guess, I guess that's it. Yeah, well you're right, You're right, I know. But here we are, we're spreading our wings. If you know people who live in Norfolk, if you know people who live in Salt Lake City in Raleigh, Am I forgetting I'm already forgetting one. All right, I know those are all the ones, so Fargo, Chicago, obviously Chicago. If you know people, yeah, then just tell them like we just We had a text from Salt Lake City this morning that people are going to be recruiting friends and family.

So this is exciting.

Yes, wow, I mean really, we're really growing and I'm hoping that if we grow big enough, we can book a really big guest, like I don't know, maybe the Mom Talk people from the Hulu show.

Have you reached out to them?

No, I was waiting until things became official, and we're going to reach out.

Yeah, because I can't determine if the people of Salt Lake City will appreciate us for having them on or hate us for having them on. That's what I can't figure out because what I can't do. What I don't know is do they represent more of the population than not or do they not represent you know what I mean? Like, are people they're really that devout as we hear or are they really more like in that demographic? Is that more of a representation like drinking caffeine and cussing a lot and having multiple husbands and lots of children from different people. And what I'm curious about is that more real life or not? I'm guessing it's not, but I don't know. I guess we'll have to ask when we go to Salt Lake City. We'll have to ask around for these people, but they got me hoked. I'm ready for the next season of that show.

Same and the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is the best franchise franchise in the whole game right now.

I may have to watch them, But yeah, it's been a lot lately, and there has been There have been some really shitty people saying really mean things to us, and and it's misdirected because we don't have anything to do with any of the things that you're mad about. And then also like a lot of things are being said that aren't true too, that people just kind of made up and then got mad about, which is my specialty. So let me be the guy to make up my own scenario and then get pissed off about it. That's my game, Okay, that's my brand, And I don't need people coming in all my stuff, okay, because that's what I do. I go home and I ruminate on stuff, and then I come up with a reason that everybody hates me and that everything's my fault, and then I get really upset about it, and it turns out that maybe not that many people hate me and it wasn't my fault. But it's impossible. Yeah, you do the same thing every day. I think everything is my fault. I think every I'm not even I'm not even mean, I'm not having funny Like I think everything's my fault. I think everybody hates me no matter how hard I try, and I get really upset about it. And then it turns out sometimes like if someone doesn't call me back, I'm like, they hate me, they hate me. They don't they don't want to be my friend. They hate me, And then they'll call me and then they're like nothing happened, and I'm ready to get just chewed out. Oh yeah, but like nothing happened.

When Jason has the answered hit my phone calls, I'm like, oh my god, he's fucking nune with me.

This is it, this is the ends, Like he does not want to hear from me, like no.

And if I don't hear from you, Fred, if I text you, I'm like, I'm fired.

That's it.

It was nice working here, Like I get goofy with it, like I'm insane.

You guys do do this. I work myself up big time for no reason.

Oh yeah, I always think I'm beeting fired.

Well that too, you are going to be the last person here. I don't know if you consider it a good or a bad thing, but I don't. Hey, look, I don't know if it's a gift. I really don't. But you do so many people's jobs that they can't afford. For you not to work here, you will literally be the last human being in this film.

They will get rid of all of us, and you'll still have a jab. Well, I don't know.

I'm just saying you're the guy who does absolutely everything.

I still feel like anytime anyone puts like anything on my calendar, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna get fired. Like this is that?

Well, that's the thing, like the whole, the whole, you know, the show growing and stuff like that's great, Like that is really great on a lot of levels. But it's also like kind of part of our survival now, you know, for anybody who's like why why Salt Lake City or why you know, wherever? Isn't Chicago good enough? No, Chicago's more than good enough. But this is the business that we're in now where we have to sort of become a national brand in order to make sure that we get to survive. It's it's rough around here, so but yeah, and we also have to do more than one job as well, So that's another that's another reality, which I don't think is any different than a lot of other places the world right everywhere. But everyone's having to do more for the same price, which is not fair, but it's at the same time it's better than the alternative, I guess. So anyway, we're happy, but it's exciting. But I just I don't want anyone to think, like, oh, trust me, Chicago was always Chicago was my dream, my one and only dream. This was not part of the dream. This is like this is actually creating imposter syndrome, to be honest with you, because like I don't understand why this is happening in some ways, Like I don't. I mean, our show's done well in Chicago for a long time, but like I haven't had imposter syndrome in fourteen years since I got here. And I was like, why me, Like why does anybody give a shit you know what I would have to say on the radio in the third largest media mark in the country. And I haven't had that feeling in fourteen years, and now I'm having it again. Really yeah, because it's like, well that many more eyes are on us now, So if the show sucks, then like it really sucks, like we're exposed. Like maybe we were able to bamboozle all of Chicago, but I don't know we could bamboozle all these other cities too.

I don't know.

But I actually have a little bit of insecurity about about this expansion. I'll be really candid about it. I don't know if you guys feel the same way or if you're just like fuck it. But I, for the first time, I'm like, do I know the room deserves it? I know that, and I hate the word deserve. I do believe the show deserves it, but like, do I deserve it?

I don't think so. I don't think so.

No, I think you do. I think it's weird that, like there are people in other cities that I've never been that are like in their cars like listening to us, Like that's so weird, right, Like isn't that weird to think of?

Yeah?

Yeah, my dad was trying to understand, and he's like, so they can hear it in other places like on the app, right, And I'm like no, but like also in their cars, but on the app right, I'm like no.

Like on the radio.

Yeah, and he was learning about syndication, and so am I.

So no, we taught ourselves how to do this.

And you can tell when it's like snows or there's like any kind of storm that we apparently that throws the whole the Gerbil that's running in the little wheel gets he gets upset and scared, and then he stops running and then before long we're not on the air anywhere, and it's a whole thing.

But no, I haven't I haven't had this.

I haven't experienced this in a very long time where I'm like, well, but I guess I guess you could argue it's a good thing because, like you, if you get all these big opportunities and then you don't, like if they didn't feel like anything, then maybe you wouldn't be maybe I'd be taking it for granted or something, or maybe I'd think, I don't know, Like, isn't it kind of a good thing to have that heightened sense of awareness, even though it's not a great feeling to be insecure. It's like it you know what I mean, Like I'm feeling it.

Yeah, but I feel like if you're like you were the opposite where it's like you just feel like it's owed and then it should just come to you. Then you would lose that hustle, right like we still care and want to do a.

Good job versus one hundred percent.

It's like, oh yeah, no, I should get that, like you know, and then not putting forth in the effort. You know, I always think it's better to want to hustle than just like I agree, sit back and let it come to you.

I agree, And I desperately want everyone to love the show. I want everyone to love the show. I want everyone to be happy. I want everyone to love us, and I know that that's not always possible. But anyway, onward and upward, the.

Negative voices are always louder than the positive ones. Nobody not A lot of people take time out of their data, like say they like something, which is really sad. I try to do it if I have a good server or something.

But just I try and do the same thing I do, try and go out of my way when someone does a good job somewhere to like go on the website and write a note. And I'm not like pad on the back to me. I just I realize a lot of people don't do it, and in this business, You're right, we only really not. There are some very kind people, and there are some very nice people who have had nice things to say and have nice things to say. But for the most part, I feel like people if you go to Yelp, like, no one's going to Yelp to write something nice. For the most part, people are only going to these places to shit on people.

What.

Yeah, like your alter ego? Who's really just here?

And I give chances.

And then you hide. You thought you were hiding behind some kind of pseudonym, but you forgot it was your picture.

Yeah, just a small detail.

But yeah, I give.

I give multiple chances before I go on YO for you to get it right. Do they know you're giving them these chances? Yeah, well maybe I don't know.

No, No, they probably don't know.

Yeah, but like nobody.

I feel like far more people use their voice to complain than they do to tell people they're doing a good job, which is hard, and so it's something I especially because of this industry. I think about that, like, I don't know if someone does a good job at a store or a flight attendant, or I don't know, somebody, I'll find the website and I'll go write the comment and I don't know if it ever gets to them, but at least get tried.

Right.

It's given me tougher skin, though, has it not for you?

Yeah?

I just I mean some of the stuff, like, look, some people can if I say something and you heard it for what it was and you were pissed, that's whatever. But I find the stuff that really gets under my skin is when either you're mad about something that I didn't do or we didn't do. You're mad about a situation we have no control over, You're mad about something that you heard that I didn't actually say. That kind of stuff gets under my skin and I don't and I'm not as I don't do as well with it as I probably should for a person who chose this lone of work, Like I'm not a victim, Like this is part of it. But it's like, dude, there's a lot of stuff to be pissed off about in the world, Like don't make it up, you know what I mean, Like, don't find something where it doesn't exist. But some people do that.

Yeah, our culture looks for like the tea or a gotcha moment or a story and almost has more fun with like theories. You know, that's why I read it exists. Everyone's just you know, talking about shit, yeah theories.

You know.

Yeah, I appreciate that the kindness, and appreciate the understanding. Lately, you know, there's been a need for some understanding. But I've read a lot of wild theories lately, based on zero information about all kinds of things. And I'm going, well, I'm sorry you're so mad about that, but I don't know that to be true. And I work here or whatever or whatever it is. You know, it's just like, wow, I guess you know more than I do because I don't. I don't know much. But this is your year, remember, Oh well it's I'm positive in twenty twenty five.

And I think you're gonna have a better year.

Do you think so? Yeah, it'll be hard to have a worse one. Yes, But it didn't start out exactly great.

I think you hit your rock bottom. I think I.

Thought i'd already had. I thought that was not good point last year.

But no, we can only go up.

Yeah, well only yeah.

Yeah, it's good though, because I am I am proud of this show, and I am proud of the growth, and I do hope that things go well as we expand, and I think it will only make the show better, hopefully in the wrong long run, and it will take time, but I hope that it also means more opportunity for everybody here, because unfortunately that's where we're at, Like, that's what it's going to take, I think, to keep doing this show for another whatever, however many years, because like everything else, we're all getting squeezed. So anyway, that's a little behind the scenes as to why we're doing this that and we also want to have a real Housewives of the Fred show, and we're looking for Andy Cohen to pick us up on Bravo and we need more listeners in order to do it.

Ooh and one step closer to Anderson Cooper.

Yeah, yeah, No, I mean if we had a show on Bravo that naturally you would be part of the CNN New Year's Eve celebration obviously.

No, I just want to marry Anderson Cooper. I don't need to be on CNN. And I just like, in my head we're together, Like I'm watching New Year's even I'm like, that's my man. I'm laying next to my man in real life. But I'm I'm like, I can't wait for him to come home so I can tell him what an amazing job he did. That's how de Lulu I am. It's very about Anderson Cooper.

Call and I have met him, and he was actually a very friendly, guying Oh yeah, me too, right, I was super.

Satisfied with that meeting. I wasn't sure what to expect from those two. It was Andy Cohen am time they were here. They played in the Chicago Theater and a few of us went backstage and met them, but and they were very, very kind, and I thought Anderson was actually very engaging. And he's super add and scattered, but like Anderson like looks you in the eye and shakes your hand. Nice to meet you, and he has a little squeal giggle, which is kind of funny because like, this is a dude who I've watched growing up, like get you know, have like bombs dropped near his head all over the world. And then I see him on stage, going.

Yeah, I remember when he got hit recently in the face with that debris while he was covering a storm. Andy on his show played like, would you rather do this or get hit in the face with debris?

And he made him do that, and he makes him talk about sex and stuff and he's always blushing.

But do you know about his life, like how he's a Vanderbilt?

You do?

I mean, I don't really know about history, but I know Riches.

His mom was an icon, banged all of Hollywood.

Okay, anyway, yeah.

Yeah, he's they've been through it though, the Vanderbilts.

But yeah, lots of money.

Yeah, he didn't get lots of money. I can't remember. I don't want to be wrong about this. I want to say maybe I read somewhere that he that he didn't get all the piles of money that he might expect, that he earned most of.

It mom like spund it. But he has a kid, though, would you be a stepdad because you don't want kids?

Don't And as a kid, him and.

Andy Bilt did it on their own.

I didn't know that.

And did that. Yeah, it's really wyat is his son.

I don't know what I knew about about Andy Cohen. I didn't know about.

And they're going to Disney together this year for the first time.

Oh my god.

Oh oh he also got another one too, well estion. Okay, so they both have two kids.

Well, good for them. That's very nice. But they were nice people that. Those were a couple of people. I wasn't sure what to expect, and I kind of thought Anderson wouldn't be that nice. I've heard he's a little shy, Yeah, a little bit of reserved and stuff, but he was very were.

The first ones too, They were probably like these bitches great, k It was like the first ones in line.

I think she looked we.

Looked thirsty, and we were.

We were very thirsty and thirsty for those games. I love those two ran.

Anderson's eyes just pierced through you.

There's beautiful birthday, Kiki, Who's the most disappointing person you've ever met? Like that?

You were this this person's gotta be awesome and they weren't.

Probably t I I've heard that. Yeah, I've ever interviewed him before.

Yeah, Fred his mom left him one point five million, see which chump.

Change compared to what he has is? Yeah.

I mean because he's written books obviously, and all the shows, and so he's made most of it on his own. Wh's good for him, Towns guy, he's legit, you know. Anderson Cooper, by the way, never with the cloth spins on the back of the jacket. No, well he would he would just have his fitted. He would have he would have had a tailored ahead of time. I mean, come on, like, we wouldn't be he would have exactly, Jason would have taken it over to the tailor and over the dry cleaner. That would have been fine. His little his little fireman suit would have fit perfectly. None of this last minute stuff.

He's out there with his little mask.

Oh.

I just love him, mask, I do.

I also don't understand why they have to put them right in the middle of all this stuff. Like I've never understood that, Like when they put the traffic people on the side of the road when it's the worst possible weather, Like there's a car.

They're adding to the traffic by driving around doing live shots from the van.

There's like ice everywhere, But let's put the guy right next to where the icy is, where people are already not able to control their motor vehicles.

Let's put it right there.

Or or like in the middle of this is burning fires everywhere, let's put them right in the middle of this. It's like, I don't you could be adjacent to it in a safe place. We could put a drone in there and that way, like you're not in the way of anybody and no one's at the risk of getting hurt. But I guess the ratings are that people want to see all the destruction and you standing right in the middle of it, because that means that you're a real newsman if you're standing in the middle of all the disaster.

Yeah, I feel like they probably give like the OG's a choice, Like I'd like to think that Anderson wants to go out there, like because he's like a journalist at heart. Yeah, Like I would assume they like ask you.

He talked about that a little bit too, and he said it's like a whole new generation of people who didn't know that that was a thing, like standing out there, and like people are very concerned for him, but he very much wants to be out there, which I respect, but also like protect him at all, comes.

Let me go out there. I gotta go, right.

I just think there was a there was a time period where like watching the news at five or six o'clock whatever it was, and this is way before our time, but we're like the guy standing that was how you saw it. That was the only way you were going to see it whatever was going on, whether it was devastation or war or whatever. But now there's a million different other ways to get information and to have like to see pictures of all this technology. So I guess I just wonder, why do we need to clog up the system by putting you know, these guys and their entire crew and all their makeup people and all the satellite dishes, And why do we got put that in some guy's yard who's trying to clean up and collect what remains of his stuff. And there's David Mirror with his clips jacket, you know which, By the way, people made a big deal about the clips and stuff. I really don't think, like if it happens all the time. I mean, like ninety five percent of people you see on TV look nothing like that in person, and if they were going to turn around, they'd be clamped at every angle because they only are concerned about what the camera shot looks like. So people gave him the worst time for that, And I get that it looked insensitive, and that was probably the least of anyone's concern was whether his jacket fit properly. But at the same time, the guy's getting roasted. I'm like, dude, this is this is what being on TV is. They want to be paring what you look like on the shot, and who knows what's going on around the shot. Nobody knows, but the guy like narcissist. Like we're calling the guy and he might be I don't know, but because he clipped his jacket to make it look cinched, he's a narcissist.

Like yeah, just an overused word, right, Oh.

Yeah, trust me by definition, I hope the man is not a narcissist. That's a mental illness. He might be vain, he might be very concerned with his appearance. He might be an asshole. I don't know any of that. I've never met the guy, but like all weekend it was I can't believe him. It's like they're all doing that.

It was someone off to the sideline who said, hey, let me clip your jacket.

Like maybe it wasn't even his decision. We don't know. We just want to be pissed about stupid shit. How do we go back? Yeah, I'm sick of it.

Yeah, people want to be angry, there's no doubt about that. People.

I think people prefer her to be angry. Than happy, which is crazy to me. I don't know why you would choose that.

It's like the Internet just gave everyone a say on everything, and I think that's the issue, like not everyone needs to say on everything.

Some things can just be and we don't need your opinion.

Well, it's funny because when people say for the most part, not all, but when people say really mean stuff, one of two things happens. When you respond. They either double down on the really mean stuff, even if you're telling them they're wrong because they've just decided, or they change their tune. And that's what happens most of the time. I feel like people write nasty shit on social media, dms, on text, would email, whatever it is, they say the worse stuff, and then when they realize when someone actually responds to them and is willing to hear them out, and they realize, oh wow, that went to a real human being. I found most people, I would say eighty percent seventy percent will not necessarily change their tune, but they come at you a lot more respectfully because it's like, oh wait, someone's actually listening to me, Like this went to a real human being, like with real emotions. And then you've got the percentage of people whatever it is, ten fifteen percent. They just don't care. They want you to feel like shit because they do. I think that's the other thing is I think that people who feel shitty want you to feel shitty.

Yes, misery company, right.

So, but captain positivity in twenty twenty five, That's what I'm about.

We have your Beni Hannah thing coming up.

Oh, I'm excited.

What is that a week from Friday.

That's a great question. It's in your calendar.

It's exciting.

I'm going to eat so much man.

Yeah, from me a shrimp.

No, this has been in the works for years now. It was given to me for my birthday many years ago. About you guys where you can buy you pay money. You can be the chef at Benni Hannah And I guess I have to go to like training ahead of time morning. Yeah, I have to go in the morning and they teach me how to Benny Hannah the training and then you guys show up and I come out. I hope I get the whole garb too. I hope I'll get the hat and a little like the little whatever they wear.

The room is so tall with that hat.

Yeah, that's what they do. Like when they come out there and they like bang against.

Zucchini in my mouth, They like tossed the zucchini in your mouth?

Did you want? Okay, which one are you going to? Which Benny Hanna location is? This is this on hall Stead called Benny Hannah.

What we're going to have after this?

I just people already know what garlic, but I'm.

In Oh, yeah, I'm gonna need to be alone after this. This is one of those classes. Yeah.

No, we did one time the show, this show many years ago, did go to Benny Hannah and then, smelling like that, we went to a club. We are saying that did happen? I saw more of Paulina that night than I've ever seen of you. I was your ass was so high in the air, so high your ass was?

You were? You had you must have stretched or something before that.

I don't know when I ate Bennie Hannah. I've always smelled like it.

We did.

There was a cloud of Benny Hannah. Yeah, we're nasty in the club.

I don't know why. Yeah, I don't get it. We walked in it was like hell high, the hell's going on here?

Wild?

Maybe we should repeat it. Maybe we should do it again. I don't know.

Maybe for Jason's birthday. We go to the club, so I don't eat before.

Yeah, maybe so, may get a digestic food first.

All right, let's go take us out.

Well, there's the tangent I catch up on the show, the iHeart app, search for the Fred Show on demand, and thank you for listening.

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