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Welcome back to the Fish Tank presented by iHeartRadio right here on the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, Seth Levitt and the toughest podcaster Dan Marino ever played with oj McDuffie juice.
This is your kind of day, isn't it?
You know?
The except you know it's my kind of day, man for a lot of reasons. As you go and introduce our next guest man, But man, it's it's it's huge right now for me, bro for sure.
Yeah, well it is. It is a big day. And so and I'm gonna get to the reason why. But I have to say one of the things that I absolutely love about our show, and there's a lot, but one of the things I love about our show is when a guest that we have compels another guest to dive in, right. And so we've been chasing this guy around for a while, and not because he didn't want to come on, but he happens to have a demanding job, and apparently it's really damn good at it. But we've been chasing around Brian Hartline for a while, and then we have Matt More on, and of course those two guys worked magic together, and all of a sudden, I'm getting like.
Fire emoji sent from Brian. He's like, we gotta do this. I gotta get on the show.
So, Matt, if you're listening, thank you for finally getting our guy, Brian Hartline.
Dive in and juice.
I know there's nothing that you love more than having an Ohio born wide receiver as a guest on this show. Brian Hartline, Welcome to the Fish Tank man.
Yeah, Man, happy to be here. So this is gonna be It's gonna be fun. I was watching Matt's and I know we've kind of reached out set before, and I'm just glad we're able to make this work.
Yeah, you and me both, and I understand. We were just saying before we hit record here that the window is going to close for you.
For those who.
Don't know, and you know, if you're seeing this on video, he's got that big Ohio state across his chair.
But Joe, it's all good. It's all goods man.
Yeah, big ten guys got to hang tough man. Right.
You know, I'm Ohio kid too. I was a big Ohio safe and we'll talk about that little.
To get to.
So this is the thing.
So you are you are literally anybody who knows anything about college sports is this is recruiting season for for you guys in college football. Your success as a recruiter is well documented, and you're on the recruiting trail today. I don't have to tell people where you're at because I don't want all the other guys to swoop in. But you're somewhere in America, sitting in the hotel room. You made some time for us to make this happen. And here's what I want to ask you. My partner here was inn Ohio legend when he played high school football.
Right.
He was Ohio, Ohio school player, high school player of the year in nineteen eighty seven. Juice, you scored twenty one touchdowns, as you've made very clear to me in the past anytime I rave about it. Nobody else's high school stats twenty one touchdowns as a senior, more than Desmond Howard that year, more than Robert Smith that year. I mean, this should have been a no brainer for Ohio State. Brian, Like, if you were the recruiter.
Then.
Okay, there's no way you let it, young o. J McDuffie walk to Penn State, right.
Absolutely can't. Can't. We would would have had that corrected.
So what would you have said, OJ, it is to keep him in the state.
Uh, well, hopefully, hopefully the proof would have been in the pudding, you know, kind of where we're at now. You know, the guys are doing a great job and you can't have your leave and but you know, it's all right. Everything plays out for a reason. It's okay.
But and Juesday might have had some nil money for it, you know, like that might have been a game change, would have been.
It would have been nice just hold something, let me hold something.
Well, you know, Brian and I didn't go to Ohio State because they had just fired Earl. Bruce came man and we didn't Uh, we didn't vibe. Me and my family and he, we didn't vibe very well. So that's why you know, I ended up not going to Ohio State because I grew up Ohio State Saturday games, watching them live Sunday morning, watching the replay of the game. You know, I couldn't wait. You know that was my that was my Uh for sure my go to school at that point.
Man. But you know, everything happens for a reason. Man. But we are where we are, and as as we move.
On, right, yep, exactly here, I'm gonna show. Uh where is Hawkins.
Oh it's northeast Cleveland, just outside of Cleveland. It's a small school. Probably you don't come to small school I haven't.
Oh, yeah, you can't.
You don't go to small ones, man, you go get the big fish. Now you're somewhere, you know, the Midwest, somewhere you don't come to. You don't come to small schools.
Bro, No, listen, the players take me. I just go with the players me to go. So you know it ain't about the schools. But I didn't. I never know. I didn't know what high school was.
Bro, like gonna lie, I love it, man, We'll stay if you know enough of this Ohio love, man, as much as we loved this Ohio stuff. Now, Brian, you're born and raised in Canton, Ohio, which I know. I mean, how much is football just woven into everyday life? You know, when you were growing up in Canton, and if I'm not mistaken, your high school, glenn O, do you guys actually play at.
Foster at Foster Field or Foster Stadium?
Right? The football, that's right. So growing up in Canton, I was woven in I'll tell you what. My parents obviously were blue collar workers, and so you know, every summer I was, I was in the kids camp. I was in a summer camp and then the best thing we used to do. And so and we're going to the Hall of Fame today. Okay, that's great. You know, so I was there probably you know, too many times to count, but you know, football is definitely woven into that city, woven into the families. Uh. I started playing. We didn't really have flag football in the area where I was at the time. Some other areas did. Uh. But started football when I was nine, and you know, as a young kid, you played all kinds of different positions. But yeah, we didn't have a home stadium when I was there. Now that's changed. There is a home stadium now, and there's a new high school there now. But we did play at Foston Stadium along with McKinley Bulldogs in the Tempcot High School. So there was two or three other schools that would play in that facility, and yeah, pretty cool memories. It's pretty cool to go back. And now they're having under armoured camps and all these things at that stadium. So I kind of let the recruits know, Man, that's my home stadium that you're going to visit and going to be your thing in. But yeah, football is deep in Kent, Ohio.
Now, Brian, with that being said, you said there's a few teams that played there. Did you play most of your games on Saturday maybe Saturday nights, Friday nights, Friday nights?
No, not that he said that, like it was pretty rotating pretty well. I mean, so I don't remember it ever changing homes in the ways. We're always a Friday Friday night game. We didn't. That didn't change a whole lot. But I just worked out well that way.
Schedule makers were doing their job, and they did.
They did. They killed it. They killed it, to be honest.
So that's a good question too, because honestly, I think the field was was it already changed the turf at that point at one point it was natural grass, so that'd be tough too.
Yeah, it was. It went both right. It went from the astro turf to the old school turf to the new turf. So uh, there were some changing things. And now when you go back now, it doesn't resemble what it was, you know, back when we were playing on it. It's a beautiful facility. They bought a lot of houses around that space and they're really creating it as a as a spot to be for former players and medical concerns and medical needs. And there's a lot going on in King Ohio with the mister Bunsen Benson put a lot of money into that thing.
So ran you were Actually you played quarterback though, right what your quarterback originally?
Well, you know in Ohio and Ohio that your best athlete typically is your quarterback. We're not you know, peppered with athletes. Takes South Florida. All right, So you're a two way player. You're probably the punter, you're probably the kickoff returner, you're probably the part returner. So I was all of the above. I did not come off the field when it came to high school football, which was pretty cool. But yeah, I was a quarterback. Grew up a quarterback. I was not going to be a quarterback by any means my brother Mike was a year younger than me, which really sort my mom. My mom kind of messed us up. But my mom should have held it, should have held him back. He was a June birthday, so he graduated high school at seventeen years old, and he could have been, you know, a freshman when I was a junior, kind of thing, thought process, but he was a year behind. He was the quarterback, you know, ended up going on to play at Kentucky. But when he was his freshman year and I was a sophomore, I was doing my thing. But then when I was a junior, he was a sophomore. He wasn't quite there for half the year, you know, he wasn't quite ready as a sophomore quarterback. But by the second half he was, and he took over as quarterback as a sophomore. In the second half of the season, I got to change out to receiver, and that's kind of when it started to flourish a little bit. You know, most people don't want to know that. The first game of my senior year, though, I caught a punt and I made a move and I went to my right and this guy came in hot at a torpedo and took out my leg and I broke my leg on the first game for the first half of my senior year, so I only got you know, four or five games with my brother playing quarterback before you know, the anticipated senior year where he could be the quarterback as a junior and I was going to be this senior receiver and all the good fun stuff that come with that. So high school football was short lived for me after that injury.
So, you know you talked about your mom messed it up. Well, first of all, you know, now they.
Kid hold the kid back.
That's the college coach talking right there. So like after classing they call that reclassing. That didn't exist at that time, right, we didn't do that stuff back then.
My mom loved the idea of oh, their sons playing so close together. I'm like, no, screw that. Like the kid, the kid was pretty good. Do you hold a back? You're doing an all world you know.
Well he did, okay, he did, Okay, he had a good career as well.
Well.
Yeah, despite breaking your leg your senior year, clearly there was some talent there because you do get a scholarship to Ohio State University and they don't just give those out. As we know, juice, and as Brian is telling people all day this afternoon, imagine he'll be telling that conversation. He'll be having that conversation with people. And have you know you have a standout career at Ohio State in two thousand and seven. I guess you help lead the team to the national championship game. You have a productive junior season. Just see averaged like twenty two yards of reception his junior year, So balling out. And then though interestingly enough, as you're talking about holding the kid back, you make the decision to forego your senior year of eligibility and enter the NFL draft.
Talk about that decision.
I know you were, you know, between the injury and you know back then right red shirted as a freshman. But talk about the decision to say, Okay, I'm going to I've done what I can do. I know you did get your degree, so you did what you were in school to accomplish from the academic side. But what went into all of that to decide, Hey, I'm going to enter the draft and give this thing a shot.
Yeah, you know, it's a it's a tough, tough question tough conversation for young athletes, and you feel like, you know, it's a pivotal point of which whether you're deciding or you know the trajectory of your career. And uh ever, going through that process, I guess, uh, there's a lot of things that you know, factor into that decision. I think I talked to one of my coaches, you from high school, and I talked to people that were close to me, and the biggest thing that was great that I thought someone told me was, although you feel like your your situation to make a decision, just to know that when you do make that decision, it was need decision. You know. I think that a lot of athletes sometimes make decisions and they carry around what the other path could have been, and they hold on to that, and then it minimizes your ability to maximize the current path you chose. And so to me, going through that process, I just felt like, whatever decision I make, I'm gonna make it the decision and there was no other decision, and I'm gonna make it work. So coming back to school, I'm gonna make a work. If I choose to leave, if God sees it, sees it, you know, true and I'm supposed to go down this path and I'm supposed to go this way. I'm gonna get it all I got then it will be there. It's not gonna change. So you know, that was kind of my thought process was, Yes, I'm making a decision, but it will be the decision and I'll never be in a situation where I'll be doing the what if question. And so, you know, having that mindset allowed me just be diving all full in to the direction I wanted to go. But it was tough. You know, I love my Alma Manter, I love a lot of the teammates that The one thing I would say, though it made it a little easier, was that I was still a fourth year athlete, so I read through to my first year, played for three, and so I was kind of leaving with my class and so, you know, be in that situation where you know what I decided, you know, based on offensively, you know what was going on people leaving or not leaving class is leaving. It just felt like I belonged to go to the NFL at that at that point. Now, I will say this, like growing up, I was not like a college football fan like I was I was a hard NFL fan, that's all I lost. I knew nothing about college football, so you know, from the early years, and I will admit guys, I was a huge Cowboys fan, so you know, right right, yeah, So I'm saying so like, you know, I could name you all the rosters from like the nineties and everything moving forward. So to me, the dire desire to be in the NFL was natural. So, uh, you know, once I felt like I knew I was good enough and had the play the uh the base to go play in the NFL, I didn't really. I wasn't only concerned on uh you know how early I go into the NFL. I just knew I could be there, I would belong and I would establish myself once I got there. So I decided to make that call and and it worked out pretty well.
Another Ohio guy, Jews, who made the decision, ended up in Miami. It seems to be just kind of in the water and something. I don't know, but we won't go down that road from the.
Same area actually too, so they go from the same area. Makes sense. Can water there? You know what I mean?
Exactly right, And we're glad that you did Roan obviously, man being a fourth round Pickley talked about for the Miami Dolphins in two thousand and nine. But for you, I mean, I can't imagine anything like that felt like a guarantee. I mean the Dolphins took another wide receiver, you know, a round before you and Patrick Turner and anything of you go to an offensive meeting room where you've got guys like Ted Junior, another.
Ohio State Buck guy, Davon Best, great cam Rio. You got your position.
You also got Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown in the backfield and your buddy Anthony.
Persano at tight end. I mean this was a veteran group. Man. Did you wonder you know where and how you fit in with this group?
Oh yeah, I remember nig Tom and Frankly that you know, having a receiver in a third round before me just provided more chip on my shoulder. I mean, Frankly, I grew up with a chip, you know, playing the position on playing and you know, being a white dude, you know, you know the amount of trash talking going on, it's just the truth. And so you know, I was a big track guy growing up too, So the track world and and being a hurdler and the amount of trash talking that was going on. So I always hit a chip and I think that third round selection with Pat was another chip, and I was I was, you know, hell bent on finding a way and carvering out a role for myself, especially as a as a rookie. Uh. But yeah, it's uh uh, it was very veteran. You know. I leaned on the likes of Anthony Passano and Devon was, you know, awesome. Greg was excellent. But frankly, you're kind to compete with those guys for those jobs. So uh, although it's there, they're great individuals and they are to this day, there's still kind of a hold off. Hey bro, you got to earn this thing because you know, you're trying to kind of take my job. So definitely provided and helped me with my chip going into the into the the Davy facility. Uh. But you know, nonetheless, there were great dudes in a great veteran group that.
You talk about. You just said the Davy You should see. You got to see the new facility.
It was a built We were down there getting ready for the national championship in covid Man. It was being built and I had him stopped by to see the guys and uh, you know, talk to you know, Chris Career a lot and see those you know, all the faces. But I havn't been back in the facility. So I spent a lot of time in South Florida too, so I'm not have to get in there in that facility outside of recruiting the players down there.
So absolutely, man, absolutely, yeah, Well you know, and I'm on the alumni advisory boards. We need our alumni to come back whenever the hell they can, no matter.
I know I want to come back from I just can't find it.
I know that's right, But I I got.
A story for you. I got a story for you though. So I remember my rookie year and this is probably you know, one of those situations that that hit me between the eyes and it was good. So I want to say I came out of rookie Mini camp, everything was really good. But at some point, I think early in camp ors off season workouts, I tweet the hamstring a little bit and uh, I know he being down for just a little bit, and uh doing what I had to do during practice and I'm walking off the field getting back towards it I'm walking towards the cafeteria right there, and I go back into the facility off the It was like so hot. I remember going back inside it and mister Jeff Ireland stopped me and he said something along the lines of like, you know, hurt guys don't make the team, bro, just so you know, let me make sure we're really clear on this, you know, and like you know, you know, we we need guys that on the field, up the guys on the side, you know, on the side of the field. And and I was sim along those lines and it hitting the square between the eyes, and I'll never forget then probably I took about one more day decide to make sure I could operate a little bit. And then I was throwing sleeves on my hamstring and my leg as quick as I could. And I'm out there like hobbling around trying to play receiver with a tweet ham string. But you know, just the the brash truth to that was a good rookie moment from Jeff Ireland that always sat with me, and uh, you know, I leaned on again those guys to kind of helped me through it. But Jeff hit me with that was a pretty pretty significant.
You know, Brian, I wonder if they still treat the rookies that way. You know, that was a.
Different eraror back there, how they talk treat it young guys. You know, I'm sure you go through the same thing at Ohio State because this new school athlete. You know, I coached twelve year old baseball and I can't deal with these little kids anymore, you know what I mean, because you know they're little spoiled asses.
You know, on my name, he's retired, Brian, he retired.
I think I think the parents retired me.
I think, well, that's that's the key right there. It's the parents. It's the parents, you know what, I exactly right, And so it's not it's not, you know, uncommon when you have a great kid the parents are great, Like it's just it's very easy. You have a kid that's you know, paying the ass. Guess what, the parents are probably a pain in the ass. Like it's it doesn't it is what it is like. So you know, it's not always the case obviously, but it's it's not not too wrong.
Well here, you know, Brian, it's always a situation where you've got you've got a great kid in terrible parents, and you got to wait that option whether we want to deal with the parents because the kids such a great players, or.
Let them move on. You know what I mean. You doubled from bad parents for a long time because we had to. We love the kid, you know.
Yep, yep, it's true. It's true. No, I've seen that. I don't have that too much of my room thing. Goodness, Like, the guys that come into the room are great dudes, and the parents are right there too, So I've been blessed with that. And frankly, if parents don't realize that they are a part of the recruiting process too, in our ev ols, they're lying to themselves. So you know, it goes, it goes both ways.
Well, juice, I think the Dolphins started to figure out they had a great kid, so to speak, right when when Brian was there and Dan Henning, who was your offensive coordinator at the time, was quoted as saying that you were the smartest rookie that he had ever coached. And that's a guy that had like forty something years in coaching professional football players at that point in time, Like that's that's kind of a big deal. And and it doesn't surprise us now when we see the way that your coaching career has, you know, just kind of skyrocketed. But what did he see? What was it? Were you just in the books? Did it just come natural to you? What did Dan Henning see to prompt him to say something like that?
Well, I think, uh, you know, j just would tell you it's amazing, you know the world of the world of sports. I always just feel like, and I said to the guys, now, you know I'm a lot of curse on here or not.
Absolutely don't fun.
But I'm just saying, don't fuck up. It's not now, it's a simple statement, but it's truth. On the balls. Throw do you catch it?
When you're suposed to be where you're supposed to be there, Like if you're you know you're supposed to get a released, get a release, Like just simplify the game and just know you know your job description, because trust me, if you do your job description, if people around you, oh, don't fuck it.
Up, don't worry.
Their inability to do their fucking job will make you look good. So like, just having that simplistic mindset of of that, I've always carried that with me frankly, like, whatever you want me to do, I'm going to do it, and I'm probably gonna make sure I probably myself, I'm doing it better than anybody else that's doing it. So you know, there's gonna be athletic ability that you may lack at times and all those kind of things. But being at this spot, at this point of time and this this amount of time, like anyone can do that, Just do it. So, I don't know, I think you know, coaches asking you to learn the playbook, we learn the playbook. You know, it wasn't about getting in the book. It's just doing what they asked me to do. So, you know, people have, you know, little slogans and quick little things to say.
I mean, I don't know, like you've got one apparently you know.
But no, but I'm just saying, it's like, it's not getting the playbook, it's just learning playbook. Because he told you this play is gonna be end tomorrow, so make sure you know it. I don't care what it takes. So if you're not very intellectual and it takes you two hours more than this guy, that's not my problem. But you got to say that for two hours, you know, and and if I'm able to learn it quicker than you, then God blessed with that opportunity. But that's just what it is. But I may lock some athletic ability, I better be on the drugs machine to make sure I never have a ball. Ever, so everyone has the same amount of time, how you allotted to make sure you're successful. It is really the key to success. And I just feel like, you know, maybe early in my career I identified that and I made sure that I maximize my twenty four hours better than the guy next to me. Well, exactly, he's not dropping the ball. Well I don't have great hands. I just on the jugs three times more time than you are. You know. It's kind of a Couldie Bryant mindset. Like I if I work out an hour a day for seven days a week, I get seven hours, and you do it a half hour a day, you know, for seven days a week. I doubled your time on the jugs machine. So for you to think you're gonna catch me at some point, it's never gonna happen, you know. And so so whether it be the playbook set to whether it be on field, you know, mechanics and and move body movements. I was just trying to make sure I spend my time the right way.
Yeah, And when I was going to say, Brian, is that's that makes so much much sense man, Because we talked about earlier the locker room that you went into a draft big ahead of you. So I really had to be the motivation, like, look, I can roll with these cats right here, man.
I mean what it's going to take is.
Me doing my job a little bit more than at We both had players in our team that slept in meetings, you know, that were the last last ones there and the first ones to leave.
You know, that's how you win in this league, right Yeah?
And I just tell you, like.
That guy the way yeah yeah.
Yeah, yeah, But I'm just saying, yeah, you ain't sleep. But I'm saying, like, you know, so Devon's in there, Greg's in there. You talk to those guys. They're smart guys, They're they're at least a year ahead of me on the on the playbook. So what am I gonna do. I'm gonna go in there and spend less time then I'm gonna expect to catch them Like that don't make no sense. So you know, I'm just hoping that they trip up and then hey, we got it. I got it. I don't need to study great. At least it gives me an opportunity to double up on my on my study and to try to catch them. You know. Obviously Patrick turs beside me. I'm going to beat him like he's not gonna be me. So like you know, that was kind of always my mindset. That's always chip on my shoulder, and that's kind of how I operated. It operated.
I love it.
It is really good and obviously it worked right. It paid off. You played in all sixteen games as a rookie, You were productive, you contributed to the team. Then you fast forward a year, though, and the Dolphins make this huge offseason splash, as they tended to do at that time, and they trade for a guy by the name of Brandon Marshall.
I want to know what goes through a.
Young player's head when a team brings in a guy like Brandon who had the reputation he had, he had the production that he had, and he's sitting next to you in your room. It's not like they just signed him to the team and he was this flashy defensive back. He's in your position group, and Brandon doesn't walk into a room quietly. It's just not who he is. He's been on this show. He talked about how that first year was a challenge for him. He was adjusting and figuring things out about himself. There were some personality conflicts with the aforementioned Dan Henning. So I just wonder what you remember from that experience.
Let's see, first was I wanted to acquire knowledge, So my first goal was to try to learn as much as I could from him, provide value to him, because frankly, I wanted to play beside him, and I wanted him to be able to trust me that way. So in my mind, like I knew where I wanted to be, and I was trying to think about how this variable allows me to get to where I want to be. Like I was being selfish in that light, but I think being selfish really translate into the best way to do business, if you will, right, So that's time my brain worked. So I just kind of listened. I watched, you know, I developed a relationship with him because I knew at some point, you know, we're probably going to have good conversations. Whether he comes at me, I come at him, you know, as a second year guy wasn't like ever planning on coming at him. But I wanted to make sure relationship was there so it could withstand any kind of confrontation. So I was doing all those kinds of things. I mean, he was awesome, He worked his ass off. Yeah, he he was a little up and down at times, and so I tried to actually find ways to kind of mellow out the situation sometimes or just being added to, you know, a person of info. And now I know I was a young guy in his mind and he wasn't paying no mind to me. But that over time, you know me and became pretty pretty tight. And uh, you know, whenever there was an issue by year, by my year three and there his second year. You know, hey, hearty heart, can you please go talk to be marsh go talk to them please, Like I was. I was, I was the guy that were coming to So I tried to over now and then. But like we've stayed tight to this day along with the you know, Devawn and uh. But yeah, I would say that it was a great opportunity to be surrounded with a great player that was doing at a high level, and I wished I could accomplish one day, and I was trying to give as much information as I could from him to make sure I could both help him but also help the team, and kind of kept it at that. So but yeah, you said Brandon didn't come in the room quiet. He didn't stay quiet in the room either, and he didn't and he didn't stay quiet on the way out, so you know. But but that being said, Man, that guy he worked his ass off. He was passionate, you know, about his career and the guys in the room, and he stuck up for guys in the room. And uh, frankly, at the end of the day, in that room, I'll we're glad he was on our side. It'll be b Marsha's is awesome. And still we still still stay pretty good contact.
I want to fast forward man a little far to the off season, prior to the twenty twelve season.
Let's talk about this.
You're on an airplane and you find yourself and aspreciating pain and it turns out that you've got appendicidis and the next thing you know, you're in.
The hospital for twelve days. You can't get out of bed.
Gang green sits in your entire digestice system shuts down and you lose twenty five pounds. Man, oh right, and training camps only a couple months away.
What the heck is going through your mind at this point?
Man? I mean, geez, yeah, I was a little bit panic, a little bit, you know, because I was kind of trying to establish myself. I think that was also going into my contract year, and that's how it was starting. It's like, what are we talking about? So? But yeah, I come back from Ohio and then I guess, you know, the pressurized plane aren't good for those things either, and I'm thinking like, man, what did I do that? I like, you know, and I was hanging with the guys a little bit, you know, and but I wasn't like Drake crazy or anything. I went out there it was crazy, you know. I eat something I don't know. So I land right, and then I get back to my my condo. I'm laying on the couch. I remember this, and I call my buddy Jared Masters. Jared played tight end for ust Or from Kansas State, and so I was like, hey, man, this is gonna sound really weird, but like I got maybe I'm constipated or something like I don't know what's going on. I to god, I'm going through everything. I'm like hurting. I'm like, yo, I I just I must need some help. So I'm like, yo, you got to stop by a CDs, you know, pick me up something. You know. This sounds really weird, but like I need like a laxative or something to make sure. I'm like to Washington the clock take down and we're having OTAs we're reporting tomorrow. I'm like, you know, so I do all this, I take all this stuff, and that obviously just makes it worse. Like I don't know. I just my son was torn up. So then it turns to like five am, five point thirty, did not sleep all night, and I'm like, okay, I'm either going to the facility or I'm going to the er. There's no in between. Like I don't know what I'm gonna do. So I was like, screw that. I basically like crawled to my car, like I was like, you know, falling down getting to my car. Got to my car. I'm driving, you know, up seventeenth Street, you know, over the causeway I lived over by the beach. And then yeah, man, I'm coming from Ohio. Broo I'm gonna live in South Florida. I'm gonna live near the beach. Like what we're talking about. I'm not living in Davy. So yeah, I just I swim in. I said, no, I did, made it, took the right, went to the hospital, went to the yar. I'm like, yo, I don't know what's going on. It's I got kidney stones. I don't know what's going on. Like I'm trying to hate everything. Obviously, my penices Blue got gang, Green got terrible. You know, they give you, like you know, medicine to help you with the medicine that shut down my digestive systems. Nothing's moving. I didn't edit and eat for seven days, lost twenty twenty five pounds. And this is the best part of the story. So my girlfriend comes down, my mom comes down, everyone's in the hotel room. We also made an acquisition before all this happen that summer. Uh, there's another receiver that came in. If anybody knows we had a new coaching staff. We have all kinds of things going on, right, like coach Philminton, like Mike Sherman and then Chado to Sinco Hotel. Yes, so we bring in Chad. I ain't never met this dude. And I'm in the I'm in the hospital room for like five days, like shriveled up, looking terrible. Oh here is a this dude walks in and they're like, oh shit, oh up, I never met this dude ever. He just walks in into my hotel room. You know, it's all personality. You know, my mom's looking what the hell is going on? You know, is there a TV show like right behind him? Like, So that was the first time I met Chad and we've stayed connected, you know, obviously ever since. And he obviously didn't We didn't have any chance to play fall together. But being in that hospital room, Chad walking in, gapping up Chad, and I'm like looking frail as hell. And that was the first time I met Chaddo chasinco in my hospital room.
I forgot about that. That that was that time.
Crazy and that was a crazy experience. I came out of that and uh and really, you know, went on to a good year there.
So yeah, I was gonna talk about the Joe Filben part. You know that we did have a new coaching staff. And then you get back and you're still I mean going to camp and you pull a caf. I mean it was like all kinds of shit going on this all you're getting ready for that season for you.
Yeah, it was terrible. I mean, like you know, you said that I quote a calf and I would not come back. And I'm going to like, you know, seeing doctor Andrews down to like Alabama and I'm getting p RP shot and everybody, I'm trying everything. I'm like, so I was getting a lot of resistance from the uh, the other spirits. I don't know what that was, but like we figured it out. I never forget, forget playing Houston and being able to be available to an elimited role for week one and I went out there and had like three or four catches and got rolling and went on to have a great year and and uh, and my coach Sherman was telling me, hey man, just so you know, Mike Sherman, I believe wholeheartedly in practicing, but you you literal have just missed the entire offseason and you show and you showed me you can do this entire thing without even being in an off season, and you just minimize the importance of practice. In my head, don't tell anybody ever told you that, you know, but I just did. But He's like, literally, you missed the entire offseason, you know, everything you had to do. You went out there and physically you ended up getting ready and you went on to have a great season personally. So but yeah, that was a crazy offseason, Juice. But I'm glad the Lord found us on his way to let me get through it.
So I, uh, you know, I'm going off script here for a second, Juice, because I'm hearing you tell that story, and I wonder. You know, Mark Dixon used to say the same thing that makes you great leads to your downfall. And you guys are conditioned to persevere through things that the average human being would be like like I probably would have gone to the hospital eighteen hours before you did. I might have made the plane turnaround or whatever it might have been, you know. And so I think about that story, Juice, the things that you went through.
JT.
And Washington gets kicked in the league, is leg whipped and he's sleeping on the stairs because he thinks if he can just fall asleep, he'll get through the pain and feel better in the morning. And then when he wakes up, doctor Andrews says, go to the hospital or we're going to cut your leg off, you know, because the compartment syndrome. How much do you think that because of what's required to play the game, that you play at a high level, that maybe you guys put you You know, I hear noise on my car when I'm driving into wor and I know something's wrong with my damn car, and I should go to the mechanic, but I'm trying to, like, nah, I can get another month out of this thing before. How much do you think you guys are pushing the machine to a point where you're ignoring some of the warning signs. I'm not talking about on the field. I'm just saying in like a life experience like that.
To be successful in life, there is no true balance, right. You don't have balance in order to you know, be super successful in one area, you are giving up in another area. That's just a fact, and that's not just force. That's just an in life, you try to have harmony, though you try to do enough to where as a father, I saw a harmony, but the time require ronments that I have to be at this spot to be over here. There is no balance and so that probably comes physically, probably comes mentally. There's a lot more to that. But the thing I'm going to try to be as a very specil person with balance and life is wrong. So to your points, that's like there's definitely an unorthodox way of thinking to get to certain goals. But that's what it's all about. Man. Like, you know, everyone's got different paths and different starting points and different endings, but like the mental makeup of the of the successful, of the elite are very similar, Like there's not that's probably the best correlation you'll ever find in athletes. And I'll just say athletes because we're talking about you know, football right now. But like, you know, Jarvis Lang, you're compared to Mike Wallace, to Brandon Marshall, to Greg kam Rio. You can't talk about different athletes. If there is one thing they probably shared in common was their mental makeup. You know, the drive to be somewhere, the willingness to sacrifice, the desire for greatness, winning over losing. Like that whole mental makeup is the com with a nominator in elite performers. And so whether you're on a four, three five and a four sixty five, or you're five ten or you're six two. Like, there's plenty of ranges and athletically you check boxes, but the one box that is non negotiable is that mental makeup. And I think that you know, everything you're hitting on is the truth, you know. Trying to find those guys with those stories that persevere and to get things done at different levels than their peers are the guys that make it. And then frankly in high school and what I'm doing now, I'm trying to find find those guys. That's what I'm trying to find. I'm trying to find a mental makeup more than anything that I have. The ability, Yeah, this kid's not a good X and he needs to play at Z and he's probably not a slot and I get all that, and we'll put those guys in the right position based on skill set. But that mental makeup, that's the common the nominator that that, to me, we just try to try to find. And this is what we're hitting on, right juice. I mean, we try to have that, man, and that's probably what keeps us, keep us in common.
I was just about to say, Man, I wish I had eligibility left man, you know what I mean, ready to go.
I'd have never left the state. I'd have never left you know, great stuff, man, I never left the state.
Well that's really great stuff.
Well, after all of that, you said, you went on to have a pretty good season. It was a breakthrough season for you, That's really what it was. But there was no breakthrough bigger than what happened in Week four team travels to Arizona. Just I got to run the stat line by it, you know, And I hope you're sitting down. I hope you're sitting down when I tell you this. Nineteen targets, so that alone, Mark Cooper would be calling you from from home. Nineteen nineteen targets, twelve grabs, two hundred and fifty three yards. I'm going to say it again, two hundred and fifty three yards, including an eighty yard up in, as you like to call him, just an eighty yard touchdown. Brian, you set a team record for the most receiving yards in the game ever by a Miami Dolphins wide out. And there's been some pretty good ones to play here, including the guy who co hosts his podcast with me, what the hell happened that day?
Yeah? I remember that game. We went into that game trying to find out who we were, right, and Arizona was undefeated. They were five and zero, and they were you know a lot of talk about their defense and and you know, the inability to throw the ball against them and all those kind of things. Patrick Pete was you know, killing it over there still, and they had they had a good setup. And obviously Ryan Tannehill was was a rookie at that point, and so we were trying to get things rolling. What happened, I couldn't tell you, to be honest with you. I just know I was getting opportunities to make plays and I was making them. Uh there's a couple of times where you know, Ryan was creating you know, after three seconds and scrambled a little bit and I was quick to react and me and him kind of found some chemistry. Frankly, we called some double moves. We executed him well. Had some opportunities late in the game for some big shots and they made some good plays. Oh, line play was great and its Richie and Cognito and Pounds were were doing their things. So yeah, I mean, we took that game late in the game, and unfortunately we did not pull it out and that's all that never sits with me, to be honest with you. But that being said, yeah, huge honor. I do. I do carry that with a lot of a lot of pride to be in that record books with some some Miami greats, and to this day, fans bring it up a lot, and uh, I'm just glad that I helped out some fantasy teams. That's really that was really, that was really my goal. I was. I was lying up like, yo, I can't let these fantasy owners down, you know, but no, all kidding aside, one heck of a game, but we did not pull it out in the end, and that's kind of assisted to me the most.
Yeah, I feel you on that. You know. It's it's amazing you talk about that game. Man.
It's like we talked about this a little bit earlier, Brian, and you talk about how, you know, the most important thing was that we didn't win that game, even though you had the big numbers, But you also talk about how, like I think, in that game, how all your skill set kind of came together. And if I go back to what we talked about earlier in this podcast, you were saying how you had to kind of disrespect out there, and I think people called you deceptively fast, and.
I think that's a good one.
That's a yeah, I said this guy here, we're talking about the man who won the state championship won ten and three hundred meter hurdles in Ohio, which is not no snouts when it comes to track and field. And you talk about how honestly kind of how to disrespect because of you know, you're playing a position that's usually dominated by men of color, but you're out there and you're trying to still earn your respect out there.
You know how many how many times.
You line up and a DV wants to get up and press because you're a white receiver? Or how I mean, how often did you see that stereotype out there on the on the football field where you know, they didn't feel like you could beat him because you were a white athlete, even though they didn't know how freaking fast and how talented you were as a receiver.
So early early on, like that was kind of the case. You know, like you can be chirping a little bit, and I would never chrip first because in my mind, I just wanted to be productive, So like why would I want best, the best version of the guy across from me. I don't you can sleep on me, bro I'm good, but like so, I wouldn't trip a whole lot. Now if you trip first, Oh, I'm coming back at you now. Yes, so early on that was the case. And I guess you know, some of the good coaches I know now it was funny because they would say that, like the part of their scouting report. Well, you know, this is this Brian Harlane guy, you know whatever, started talking about you know, route running. He's you know, probably cerebral whatever he goes. God, I'm just telling you you may not think he's fast, but he seems to keep running by everybody. So just keep that in mind. You know, that was kind of a breakdown, you know, and and and over time, as you know, being in the division AFC's like you see the same guy, saw KRAMARTI Sawid Daryl you know, read this and saw these guys, the guys in Buffalo, so a year after year and to be around so then we kind of we kind of knew each other. We were good at that point, but early on definitely getting challenged that way. But that being said, right, man of color, you know, like the last thing he wants, it's some white dude beating him. So he ain't he ain't saying shit either, you know what I mean. Like he's like, I don't want to piss him off. I'm just gonna let him just do his thing, you know. So there's a fine line, like you know, but out of honestly, at the end of the day, it provides more fun on the field, as you know, juice, and like, you know, I never really took it, you know, any type of way that was wrong. I just kind of like use that as motivation. And frankly a lot of those turn into good relationships, some great and good friends and so but yeah, see East for sure, like they kind of it was kind of like, hey, you know, heart's gonna be hard, like just don't I wouldn't. I wouldn't you know, underestimate him, overestimate him. Just know he is what he is. But that came with you know, year four, year five, year six, with all that. But it made a lot of fun early on. There ain't no doubt. There ain't no doubt. So no, it's good though, it's good. It's great. I love that question. It's a great question.
So good but then the timing of it was great too, Juice, because we're talking about you just have that Monster game twenty twelve. You have your first thousand yard season, right, you had thousand and eighty three yards. You follow that up with one thousand and sixteen yards in twenty thirteen. You become just the fifth wide out in the history of this franchise to have back to back thousand yard season.
And again, listen, these are not fluke names.
Mark Duper, Mark Clayton, Irving fryar B Marshall we talked about earlier and Brian Hartline like these days were spoiled, right because Tyreek Hill and jay La Watta are just putting up in video game numbers and it's it's a thousand yards. It's like, okay, we're we're at we gate, like not what we gotta go do? So it's it's absolutely insane. But when you consider the time, when you consider what the expectations in in my Travis Wingfield air quotes here, what the expectations were, and then the style of offense that we were running back, then how meaningful that is that to you? I know, the record was you know this two and fifty three yards you talked about how that was. You know, you still wear that as a badge of honor. But that's one day a two year body of work. I mean, how meaningful is that to you to be in that in that category.
Yeah, I think it's it's pretty awesome, honest. I don't know how to really put it in context, but I feel the love from uh finn fans and you know, evenil social media that gave that we can have we do and uh so, yeah, I mean I I carry around a lot of pride, you know, being uh you know, a part of this story franchise and and doing my part and the best we could. I mean, we never won enough, and frankly, you know, that war on me, you know, and and you know, you know, losing wears on the right guys, you know, and it war on me, and so losing wears on the right guys.
Right guys. Yes, I think that's the Yeah, some guys don't give yeah, yeah, and it just it wore on me and then just both you know.
Again, I don't go to that, but like you know, I love being tied uh to this great franchise and at least doing my part and hopefully hopefully maximizing, you know, some fourth round pick. You know, hopefully I provide a lot of value for this franchise because you don't always anticipate that maybe as a fourth round pick. So uh, you know, created great relationships. The production the awesome, but I hope, you know, just not just the productions remembered, but maybe the way I kind of lent about my business and the way I was with my teammates and all those kind of things are more important than all that. And frankly, being on this podcast, you know, hits me the right way because you know, there's a lot of people you guys don't talk to, but you guys chosen to talk to me, So I appreciate that. So I have a lot of respect for you know, Vince Nation, and you know I try to get down there as much as I can to see a game here. Soon.
Yeah, we got to get you down man.
Man, say, I love this man, and I love talking about you know, I have I got one thousand yard season. I loved in there one time. I think I got one one yards one year or something like that. It was real close to the DS. But I know how impressive that is, man. I certainly know that you know how big of a deal it is. But after all that production, after all that you've done the two years. The following year, Mike Wallace and a rookie Jarvis Landry are getting most of the targets. You know, you're not getting that nineteen targets in the game, you know, and now your opportunities as well as your production they take a serious hit. Right, How frustrated was that man? And did you did you kind of see the right in the wall that where they were headed the direction the team was headed at that point, or why and why would they be headed in that direction?
Uh? No, I think that, you know, I didn't. I didn't have a crazy perspective on that. I just blamed Brian Daball. It's fine, no problem, But I think that, you know, at the end, it was like, no, I mean I didn't. It wasn't me. It was obviously you know, Brian A ball. So uh no, I would say that. Uh yeah, I mean I remember Jarvis, you know, coming in, and I loved working with him. He had the right mental makeup and Mike, I love Mike my kind of personality that that Trump's anybody, So it really wasn't thought that way. I was just trying to win. That's really only thing I cared about. And uh, and frankly, schematically, I really didn't feel that week to week, you know, because I can look at a game plan and kind of know what's going on. But that wasn't the case. It just kind of the ball rolled that certain way. You know, Ryan was trying to you know, get get where he was getting and trying to figure out, you know, where he was at. So there was a lot of things factors than just being like, you know, we're gonna shy away from uh, from heart that. I don't think that essentially the full case. The stats definitely kind of showed it, but didn't really have to feel in the in the facility. But yeah, I mean to play along alongside those two guys to make those transitions to go out and really you know, make the investment with Mike Wallace going from Pittsburgh to uh, bring in Jarvis the second round pick from LSU. Uh. Those are the bright pieces we needed. Frankly, you know, when Brandon went, you know, we have different different directions with Brandon. You know, there was somebody else that we need in that room. Made this flash with Mike and then adding depth of Jarvis was critical. Uh so all good moves. But yeah, I definitely you know, took it into the production, but I didn't feel it that way. I was just part upon the team and see him getting in where you get in, you know.
But ship, Brian, I'm gonna tell you this, man, you think about it, I'm I can't imagine when you bring in Mike Wallace and you've you have Mike and you've got Jarvis, how many one on one opportunities did did we as a team? Excuse my French fuck up? So I know you have some good opportunities out there that we didn't even get.
Dan fitz Bloor, Yeah, I mean I've heard sure if you go back and restudy the film, they're probably going to be like, you know, what happened here? What happened? And there's probably an opportunity to play better in certain positions. But because we made a lot of people in a lot of parts, and so it's amazing. Frankly, you know, as you say that, like every season besides the first season, every season was coming down to those last two games of getting into the playoffs and against New England against Buffalo, you know, then I had you know, we're on the edge of getting in and I remember in the first quarter, you know, I hurt my pcl on my left knee and I missed the remainder of that of that that game, and that was a dividing deciding factor of whether we're getting into the playoffs or not. And we ended up not getting the playoffs and we lost the Buffalo we should have won. And so those games are what haunt you all those other things. You know, it's amazing, juicy, you tell me what you think. But like, the success is supposed to happen in our minds. That's how we work so hard. Like we don't celebrate success at least in my head. But the ones that don't work, and they hot me. Like the times that don't work is all that it resonates in my mind. The success although great stuot, I trained for that. I want that to happen. That's expected. But the ones that don't happen, Man, those hurt a lot more than the ones that do. So you know I remember those more than anything else.
Right, And you know you're right, man, I remember my losses more than I remember my wins.
I really do.
Yeah, Like it's the toughest thing to deal with, man, because a lot of times those losses are what keeps you from getting to where you want to be or where your team needs to be, and things like that. So I'm with you one thousand percent. Those losses are always tough for the right guys, for the right guys. They take for the right guys, and I take them, you know what I mean for the right guys.
Well, you guys can sit there and remember all the bad stuff, But as fans, we're gonna remember everything that we love. Two hundred and fifty three yards and back to back thousand yards.
Seasons absolutely right.
The toe drag swag is Chris Chambers called it. You know, all the sideline catches, that's the stuff that we're going to remember here, guys. But you guys can sit there and dwell in all of those. You know, the two times you drop the football or something between the two of you.
You guys can do that.
So so look, I know you've got to get out of here and leave that hotel room and hit the trail and and go find more great players that will make O.
J and I mad, because our.
You guys already know where he's at I know you've got some bad as you know he is, and he's gonna go get pitch too. State University. I know they are.
Oh man, you know all that's gonna happen. So we're gonna let you get out of here. But before we do, uh, we we have to do our traditional fish tank two minute drill. I feel like at this stage of your career, this has got to be right in your wheelhouse, man, So like, grab your headset, put it on, grab your place sheet.
Get ready.
We're gonna throw some fastballs at you. We're gonna have some fun.
You know.
We'll put the proverbial two minutes on the clock and and get you out of here.
Sound good?
Please, let's go. Let's go, let's go. All right?
You want any timeouts?
Coach?
Do you need any timeouts? Probably that situational.
We'll take them. Yeah, okay, take them if you need them, you just.
Call time out.
We got you.
Just do it all right? Now, these are hard hitting now to be ready?
You ready?
All right?
All right?
What's a tougher job coaching college football or running a drive through convenience store.
Coaching college football? No doubt it. But we elaborate on it. Yeah, people, we don't understand. So there's different levels, right, but drive through, come in, get what you want, you know, outside of taking too long because of the cars behind you. Like that's our only issue.
Okay, But college football recruiting elite players, managing expectations, developing an eighteen year old boy into a twenty two year old man, dealing with you know.
Now, financial literacy, still looking to graduate. There's so many complexities in college football. And then to have all these guys, the odds of them all getting what they want are very little. And then not allowing these guys to openly just pick a different team because they want to. There's so many variables involved in college football. Sometimes I feel like the last thing I do is coaching football. And I think I think the only way that it ever works in college football is if the coach is doing it for the right reasons. I mean again, I'm throwing my my recruiting speech right now. I know I am. I'm not chasing you know, a buck to you know, satisfy my family. I'm doing this out of because I love the sport and I love the young athlete, and I want them to experience everything. We just talked about at the next level. But managing all of those variables men totally different backgrounds, some with you know, gaining communities and some that man, they ain't eaten full fully like. So it's all over the board to be able to relate to all of them and be authentic to all of them and them receiving authenticity. There's so many things that go into college football. Now, it's not just what you re at ESPN.
Well, that probably is a lot more difficult than when the guy pulls in and says, let me get a half down to that two percent in the blue dorios, like.
Let me get let me get the grippos, let me get that you know that twelve pack of let me see your ID. Yeah, I got you right, Yep, you're good.
All right, onto the next one.
Okay, we retroactively call time out for you, coach. You had you had a good uh yeah, you had a good squad. So we get we bought back some time there. All right, Kawk is running again. It is well documented on this show. I don't know that you know this. I apologize in advance, but I am a Florida Gator. We might have mentioned the name Tim Tebow a time or two on this show in the five years we've been doing it. But this begs the question based on an unbelievable quote you had in twenty twelve. I want to know, are you more of a t bow guy or a Kardashians guy. I don't know, you know, I don't you know the quote?
No Kardashians.
Yeah, so you don't even remember you said this. But this was during t BAU media. It was twenty twelve. They came up to you and then Bo Tvo two he said, look, you guys love all this t bow stuff. To me, it's just like the Kardashians. I don't know what they did either.
That was your life.
Wow, I said that. Obviously I'm more of a t Bow guy than a Kardashian. But you know, I'm not shocked. There's gonna be more of those clothes that I threw out there and do this. You know I had that personality, but uh, a guy, that's all. I'm a guy. I'm a t bow guy.
There it is.
I juice.
You're up all right? That's great. I love that. Wow.
You once received an unsportd like conduct only four year your golf putting touchdown celebration and now the Miami Dolphins celebrate as well as any team in the league, Like what is your favorite TV celebration of all time? And what about all this celebration stuff. Anyways, when you got in trouble back then.
I kind of, you know, I even dance a little bit, you know, have the phone with it. But that was crap, Like they lay literally they literally thought. Coach Philpin called me in to say, heart, did you get the team together and like practice that. I'm like like, what, like, wait, coach, so you think that we are working our tails off? And then I'm calling everyone together and I'm telling them I'm gonna be me, like, I don't do this kind of shit, like, hey, let's all do this. I'm gonna do this putting thing. No, I just pulled this shit out of my ass. And then all the guys knew exactly what was going on and they just jumped in and played along too. That's all what really, because it looks like you guys for you guys practiced it, I said, coach. Hell no, I apologize for it. It won't happen again. But no, it was. It was just ad libe. It was just a spur of the moment.
Man, Well that was twenty twelve where you couldn't you couldn't have choreograft celebrations, right yeah, Now did you watch Hard Knocks like a kid's practicing the roller coaster, Sally and the whole thing, like you know.
My far it took too long because by the time the guys got there, they added and it wasn't supposed to be out.
To sink the putt man.
I was getting a little putt in was too.
Good fun man. The NFL finally loosened up on that ship. Man, they know this is entertainment. Look what they're doing now with that stuff bright and talk about. It's like, wen, yeah, that's all right, we're good.
It's amazing how they just allow that now because people want the entertainment factors, you know what I mean. It's like they're worried about the trickle down effect. I'm sure, but now the entertainment is is it's where it needs to be because you know, it's hell, this is the most popular sport in the.
World now, well our world at least, you know.
Oh yeah, all right, the last questions in the six minute two minute drill, and I mean we're gonna keep it going right.
The field has shrunk. We're in high red zone right here.
Now.
We gotta we gotta make a big play. This is a tough one for you. You know. The thing are too about evaluating and coaching wide receivers. We need you to stock your room with your five favorite Miami Dolphins wide outs of all time.
Wow? Uh uh work every time?
Please please?
That's one we got, Juice.
I gotta go with Dang. That's great. It's a great question. I'm partial to the guys I'm playing with.
That's fine.
I have to yeah, go there.
I said your.
They're gonna be watching this podcast back. You better. You better hook them up man.
I alwould say, uh, Jarvis Landry, I would say, Brandon, So we got my I gotta put myself in there. I'm gonna have to have to me me Juice, uh to Juices and Jarvis. I'm gonna throw uh, you know, b marsh in there, all right, and then God bless from I love Brandon Gibson's you know play. You know, Greg was Greg. I thought Greg was a good player. I love Mike Wallace, but I'm trying to figure out, you know, where they're playing and how they're playing, and then then I'll go all the way back. So I go to the Hall of Famer, even though that was a different era. You know, with the original he was a buck eye too. He was a buck eye.
To put him in there, I know exactly. You have to put him in there, give it, give it, to give it.
To him, But more do I give it to Paul? I mean the Hall of Famer original, I mean, you got to give him to the original lot out of like the NFL baby ever. So again those are kind of interchangeable. I sut myself out and put Mike Wallace in or Brandon Gibson or Greg cam Mario, but uh, those are probably the short list I'd be operating with you.
You know what's ironic about that big set, it's crazy about that is you know Ah had that you know over he still leads the league ever in twenty one over twenty one yards of catch, and we talked about herdline twenty two yards of catch, you know, I mean that was I mean, that's some crazy ass numbers, man, that's high.
It's a different time of game too, with Paul and all that, But I gotta give more credits credit due it can't. We can't let police forgotten. Someone throw him in there.
You know what, I think they punched it in juice and talk about clock management. This man is ready to lead an offense. There's no doubt about it. Brian, this was so much fun. I can't thank enough for being a part of the show.
Yeah, I appreciate it, man, I appreciate fin Nation, appreciate you guys, and I look forward to being down in South Florida and continue to recruit the South Florida White House.
It's coming on.
Those those are my guys. Man. So excited to be back down there, and hopefully I can stop by the facility and see everybody here soon. But other than that, I say, there go Bucks.
I mean, Brian, one more time? How many first round? Why was here a pix that you have now right now you're atending it?
Three or four? Oh? Come on that, bro, come on first rounders, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, I'll say, Jamison Williams, you guys can decide if that's part of us or not. Marvin Harrison and Jackson Smith and Jig buz So.
For current current current current, Okay, I got forgot, Yeah, for.
Sure, Marvin just pop that so but no, I'm blessed. I've been blessed to be a part of the coaching opportunity for five of those guys.
Thanks for diving in, Brian Man.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys man and hoping we'll do this get here soon. You're now diving just like Jews said.
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