Bob Brudzinski: We Had a lot of Fun

Published Mar 25, 2025, 9:00 AM
From Woody Hayes to Don Shula and Bill Arnsparger, Bob Brudzinski was no stranger to tough coaching, which helped him become a key member of the Miami Dolphins’ Killer B’s Defense of the 1980s. Contributors to this episode include Sevach Melton and Dolphins Productions. Theme song created and performed by The Honorable SoLo D.

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Might have been that Welcome Back to the Fish Tank presented by iHeartRadio right here, the Miami's Dolphins podcast Network, Seth Levitt and the man with the best hands in the podcast business, O J.

McDuffie. Juice, how you feeling today? Man?

You know I'm feeling great, Big Seth.

You know a few things that you know when we get our guests on it, that you know, make me really really excited.

Yeah, you know.

Obviously one's on the office office side of football. One for sure, that they play wide receiver. Another one is that you know they played well, I played wide receiver. But dam if we can't get any of that, Big Seth. How about if we go back to my home state.

As long as you're in Ohio, we know we're gonna be okay. Right, we get an Ohio guy and everything's going to be all right.

That's right, man, That is right man. I'm stoked man. So Seth introduce our guests in.

Bro Well, we are pretty fired up.

We were just talking before we hit record here that we've been waiting for a while for this one. But finally Bob Razinski dives into the fish tank. Bob, how you doing today?

I'm doing very well. Good to see you guys, Seth and Oj. You know, been a long time to see you guys. And I always see it Oj at the games and all that when we get a chance, and he's always taking notes and it's fun to watch it.

He's a very prepared man, you know. Is I think we've been working what he's talking about?

Yeah, that is for sure, because we don't.

I would say you this, Bob. I appreciate you telling him that. Man.

They think that I don't. I don't work while I'm watching the game with you guys. Man, they think that I just show up in the post game.

You know.

It's just like start a living that I put some work here, right, Bob?

And Bob's always you know, are you yelling at the other guy yelling at doing all that?

Good?

Well, I'm glad to hear it, because all we get on our end, Bob is that he just basically name drops of everybody that is, Hey, I'm went to killer bees today. Hey, you know I was talking to Dupe. We're trying to break down what happened. Why, you know, how come waddle and hill and why why can't we get more involved?

I was talking to Mark Duper and that's okay, we get it. Ojay.

We're just sitting in the press box with a bunch of guys feeding their faces here in the in the food line, and you're sitting with the legends of the game.

We understand.

Too.

Funny, All good, All good.

Two facts.

So, Bob, before we get too deep into anything, bro, let's as a former All American for the Ohio State Buck guys, how much are you still celebrating that big win they just had in that's championship.

You know, I went to the game.

I was lucky enough to go to the game, and it was an experience. And I tell you I I definitely I haven't worn my Ohio State closed around very much. I wear them around now, I haven't. I haven't worn my U National championship shirt yet, so I.

Will you probably should have.

I don't like the brand.

We heard that. There's a humility there that we're going to talk about.

Now, Bob, I'm from Marion, Ohio. So I would have been a Marion Harding president playing against you guys at Fremont ross Man when you were in the Book Eye Conference. Talk about you know, growing up in that conference when you were you know, young, and then I was a guy that was aspiring to play in the Book Eye Conference.

That was a hell of a conference. Between that and maybe one other conference, we had some great players coming out of there. You know, we had you know, Sandusky, you had Finley, Ohio, you had Marion and Mansfield and Lorraine Lorraine edminal k. Yeah, you know we had It was a great conference. And you know Scotty May out of Sandusky, and you know there was a lot of great players that played in the NFL, NBA.

And all that. There was really a great conference, Bob.

I try to tell everybody all the time, like Ohio, you know, has got some of the greatest athletes ever. Now you know, I'm not just talking about you know, myself at times, I'm talking about all of us, Man.

Not just talking about yourself.

Well, no, because I played we played a lot of sports. My whole point is that we play a lot of sports. Bob, did you play any other sports? You know when you were at Fremont.

Yeah, I played basketball and baseball.

Nice.

Nice you know, And and then talking about that, you know, you see these kids that maybe just do one sport and all that.

I thought doing all three sports like that really helped. And it makes you an all around athlete, you know, like in basketball, you know, it's for quickness and all that and your speed, and then in baseball, I hand coordination, all different type of stuff like that, and track, you know that speed or.

Distance or strength or whatever.

But yeah, before they had baseball and junior high well that's what we call it junior high. I threw the shot put in poll Valled. So yeah, they had a lot of fun, right, you know, I enjoyed it.

Yeah, we had to go indoors at some point.

I try to tell people all the time, Bob, you know, football players to play basketball or wrestle, and then you know, you wait for the summer for the thawout, you start dealing with track or baseball, and like you and I are the same way man football, basketball, baseball.

So that was that's what's up.

But you know, you know what else though, I mean you think about you know, Ohio sports, and you know we we both did that. But once you play these sports, once you play a great high school career, you make the decision what you're gonna do about college. Now, Bob, I got out of Ohio even though even though I probably stay, still take crap and my family still hates me, I think at times, so stayed in the state. What was your decision to go to Ohio State? Because I'll tell you why I didn't go to Ohio State.

Okay, I made three visits. I went to Michigan State, which I had a great visit there. Duffy Doherty just retired and Denny Stoltz came in, and Denny about a year or two later, like my South Bar junior or something like that, they got caught, uh for illegal recruiting. So I'm glad I didn't go there. And then Michigan. You know, my I had a teammate at Fremont that was, you know, all Ohio and everything, and he was a running back and he went to Michigan and and then I went to Ohio State. But he didn't like Ohio State because you know, there was a guy named Marchie Griffin that he would have to play at least three years behind.

So that was a big tough spot.

To be before you could move, before you get into portal.

At that point, right, Bob, there, you can't just you can't jumping the portal because you're behind a two time Heisman Sophy winner.

Oh that's true.

But I got recruited at Ohio State and then, plus my dad was I was born on New Year's Day nineteen fifty five and Ohio State was national champs that year, and the doctor came down to get my dad and said, hey, you had a boy, go up there and see him. And he was watching Ohio State play in the Rose Bowl and he kept watching it, and the doctor said, get the hell up there, your wife and kid.

And stuff like that.

But I had a great visit there. I had Craig Cassidy, whose dad was Hopalong. Cassidy recruited me, So that was pretty cool.

So anyway, well, since we're since we're name dropping here and we're talking about Ohio State, you know your senior year you were an All American for the buck Eyes. That was, of course in nineteen seventy six. So if anybody knows that Ohio State history, you can do the math. The head coach had a well known name as well, and it was a guy by the name of Woody Hayes. So we're gonna talk Don Shula here in a little bit where Dolphins podcast. There's no way we can ignore talking about coach Shula. But tell us about your Woody Hayes experience. And you know, I wonder how you're talking about the port old juice.

I wonder how Woody Hayes would have handled nil athletes back in his day.

Well, I had a great relationship with Woody. He always took care of the offenses, so he was on the other side of the field and the defense was at the other end of the field. So I didn't really talk much to Woody. You know, we had all the defensive guys around us and that. But I experienced some great team meetings where he would have some fun and tearing halts the part or breaking rift watches and stuff like that. But you know, he was a great, great motivator. Yeah, okay, great invader, and you know, great coach. I wouldn't like a grandfather or a father when you're away from home. He really loved this boys. He hated this the press, and he loved this boys. He didn't want anybody around him, so.

Well, it sounds that was Yeah, it sounds like if the best way to survive the wood Wood tenure was you said, you're on the defensive side of the ball, so you didn't have to interact with him as much.

So you weren't.

You weren't catching all that wrath, although when you're as good as you were, you probably didn't get much of it.

Nah, I didn't get punched or anything.

Yeah, we won't. We won't go back to that nineteen seventy eight episode that wasn't.

Yeah, you know it was crazy too, Bob, is that you talked about a high school teammate that with the Michigan out of Ohio instead of.

Going to Ohio State.

That's a big problem, right, I mean, that's man people don't was. Yeah, it was a big problem. And I tell you the reason I didn't go to Ohio State because I was a big Earl Bruce fan and they had fired old Brewster Boddy and John Cooper and it just wasn't really wasn't a fit for me, and you know, and what I wanted to do. So that gave me an opportunity to go to Penn State, which I did, But I visited Michigan, but there's no way an Ohio guy could go to Michigan LB.

Right, right, you're right, You're totally right there. So but how do you like Joe? Did you have a great coach? Pretty good?

He's absolutely amazing, Bob, he really was.

Yeah, you know, him and Woody are probably the same old school and everything. Really great guys really loved their players and all that.

And they cared about the right things. They really did.

Man.

You know, I know everything that we talked about and everything that's going on at Penn State since, but ma'n tell you what. This guy really really really cared about his players and that, like you talked about about Woody, I grew up in Woody. So here's you know, Seth. You don't know this, but every Saturday I watched Ohio State buck guys play their game.

I believe it.

Then every Sunday morning, I wake up and watch the game. I watched the replay again. And that's how the state of Ohio was when it came to Buckeye games. Bro. You know, that's why I was locked and loaded to go to Ohio State until you know, they fired El Bruce and when Earl Bruce came out in that last game, that Cotton Bowl, you know, in the suit the thora guys had the red nikes on. Man they man, I was like, I should still go here? I said, really should still go here? And then it was like, you know, then Cooper and my mom just didn't see ey eye and some things, and that's why I didn't go there.

But Bob, all I know is that every time, so we you know, we do a lot of research, we prepare, we have kind of a run of show for these interviews, and then an Ohio guy comes on and it all goes to hell, and OJ just takes you know, the first thirty minutes of the thing and we're just gonna have to talk about Ohio.

All right, we'll get back there.

We'll get back to lhin An NFL career too, you know.

Here we go, Okay, I'll get to that, all right, Bob.

So so so back on track here, Bob. You know, you've been an all time great Miami Dolphin. You know, played nine season with the team, and certainly your role as a member of the the Fabe Killer Bees defense. You know, a lot of people forget that your career really began as the first round draft toys for the Rams, the La Rams, where you know you played there with guys like Jack Youngblood, Fred Dwyer, Al Collins of all people, and even Joe Namath was in La when you were there. Talk about the circumstances that led you literally to walk out of the building in the middle of the season in nineteen eighty and never turned back on it.

It was tough when the mister Rosenbloom drowned down here. He died down here and uh, maybe seventy eight or something like that. Anyway, and then his wife Georgia took over, and then everything seemed like it went to hell. Where guys were, they weren't renegotiating contracts, and because I was in my auctioneer and so nothing. They said they would negotiate good faith and they never did. So anyway, it was really really tough. Nobody knew where I was. My dad didn't even know where it was. He was going nuts. But I had the lawyer, Howard Flusher, who is known as the holdout lawyer, asient or whatever you.

Wan call it. So I wasn't the only one.

There were a lot more other guys and so yeah, but it was really really tough, and then I didn't think it would last that long.

And then the morning of the draft.

In eighty one, the Rams called me up and said they traded me to the Dolphins.

So I said, okay.

That was it, that was it?

That was it.

Wow, Hey, except for a linebacker or a defensive guy that won the punies people, Bob is so nice.

Man, you know what I mean, Like I can imagine saying that, Yeah.

Okay, right, all right, whatever, you know what I mean. That's Bob Man's Bob's demeanor all the time.

Brou It was a totally different time though, right, I mean talking about a contract dispute, but like it wasn't even your only job, right in those days, it was you had a side hustle too, in addition to being a football player.

Yeah, I a couple of time jobs I had. I worked for Cores in the off season for a couple of years. I wanted to learn a business. I wanted to try to get in the distributing business at one time, and it was me and young Blood we were looking into doing that, but that never happened. So I got in, got my commercial real estate license, tried to do that and I worked for a couple of years with a group. I just wanted to learn the business. I didn't want to get paid or anything. So they me tag along and learn the business a little bit. So and then once I got uh you know, and uh, towards the end of the career, you know, I got into this crazy restaurant business, which you know, you know, it lasted for thirty five years. So we we we shut down on all the restaurants last June. So that was tough.

Yeah, it's tragic for me, man, I tell you right now. Man, it's it's rough on me. Man. But I understand though, I understand.

Brother sometimes looking for a new watering hole juice.

Yes, I mean, you know, I know, we'll talk a little bit more about it.

But we played a lot of baseball tournaments up in the Coral Springs area, you know, up and up and you know up you know, Deerfield. So every time we had a break between games or we're there for you know, for the weekend, we're at bruise rooms, bro, you know what I mean. And it's always been a great spot.

For for all of us.

Man.

So yeah, it's and the wings. We'll talk a little bit more about that.

Yeah, we're gonna get to all of that.

Man, I know you talk about is I'm thinking me hungry right now. Set that's the problem.

I gotta get Choos back on track here. Sorry. Look, things blow up with the rams they send you across the country.

The nice thing is the Ohio kid gets to be in all the warm weather cities. So you go from coast to coas from LA and now you're in Miami. But there's a guy down here by the name of Don Shula. I want to know what your first impression of Coach Shula was and then I you know, and and maybe you didn't have the Woody Hayes experience that I anticipated, But how much did playing for a guy like Woody Hayes prepare you for what you walked into here in Miami with Coach Shula.

So they were really very similar, you know, both Ohio guys, Uh, great motivators, great, a lot of respect for each one. They surrounded themselves with great coaches and players, and then we just went from there. I tell you, everything was pretty similar, except Coach Shula could go off the depen a little bit if you you know, but uh, you know a little bit more intent maybe put it that way.

How about that?

Yeah, that's a good way to put it from what we hear. So one of my favorite things with all you guys that played for Coach Shula is everybody has at least one got called into the office, Like even Rich Webb, who seems like his demeanors a lot like yours, Like he's the nicest guy, and you know, but he even has the story of the one time he got called in. And shoot, we just had Scott Stone on he was in publications. If you are he got called.

In where no matter where you're at, did.

You ever have one of those brew?

Yes, it was. It was another holdout. I was.

I held out for part of pre season and uh we were playing I think Denver, uh that week and I came in like on a Friday, I think, and I got called in the coach Shule's office. He said, you know, you could have been hair on the beginning of the week. We could you you could have practiced all week and everything, and then you know, it went on and on, and then he takes a hangar and he throws it across the room and you know I had to duck a little bit. But everything in den and then I get to go out and go one on put our pads on one on one with.

Jeff delmar.

Oh Man, and I think both shula really enjoyed that. Just watch us beat the hell out of each other.

You know, it's funny. They love You know.

What's funny is he usually does that with rookie, but you're you're a veteran guy, and he's mickey, you know what I mean. He's kind of ask you why you're here signing and things like that. But usually the rookies get to go out there and deal with somebody else. They want to make it a tough situation, you know. Like for me when I was a wide receiver, young wide receiver, I didn't hold out brew, but I was definitely going to get some of our best corners like all the time, Like damn, you know, I mean, I'm just now getting my feet wet. Help you know, hook me up a little bit, man, So I get it, Bro, I get it.

Man.

You know, Hey, Sam, let's talk about some other good stuff man with this with this squad, right, so I want to hear about the killer Bees.

Bro.

You know you got bomb howerd Betters, the Blackwood Brothers, Boll Camper Bowser, and now we got Brewzinski. Tell us what it was like playing with those guys, because you guys kicked a lot of ass on the field, and it seemed like you guys had a lot of fun off the field.

Yeah, we we got together and did things family wise, do a lot of things off the field on the field help. I was lucky enough to play next to Betters because Doug was one hell of a player. He would just take he would take everybody out and uh make me look good, you know. He just so you know, if had a running player or something like that, you know, it's just you know, double team or something like that, he'd take the dumb you know, shed a block or something like that and make a tackle. But he Doug was an excellent player. He was NFL Defensive Player of the Year one year. So so it was great playing and great playing with those other guys because in the huddle sometimes it would get a little crazy and you know, you'd get bow Camper in there making some jokes and stuff like that, and Bob Howard getting mad at him, and it was serious, you know, uh, but it was it was it was you know, especially the Blackwood brothers, well, even Bo.

They always had.

Pranks in the in the locker room, crazy pranks, but anyway, we had a lot of fun. Like you say, on and off the field.

I'm gonna tell you what, Big Seth, What's what's great about that is we know sometimes the locker room will be silly, but then they don't go out there and perform.

These guys could be both.

You know, you want to you want a light locker room, but you want some guys out there kicking a lot of ass.

To handle your business.

I would have loved this locker room because you know, I'm really an offensive defensive guy, Big Seth.

As you know I have heard this, I would have.

Hung out with the defensive guys more than the offensive guys in that locker room for sure.

Yeah, I've definitely heard this. So I love that you're talking about the pranks. Well, first of all, say this. You mentioned Bo. So you and Bo were roommates from what I understand, and so I reached out. Bo's been on the show a couple of times. He always has great stories. I'm not surprised to hear that he was cracking jokes in the huddle. But but I I called him to try and get some intel. Hey, give me something good for Brew. We're gonna have him on the show today. He goes, he's really kind of a quiet guy. He goes, you know, Brew would be the guy like there was a crew of us that would go out to eat, you know, for dinner, and it would be me and and and I don't know if he said Lyle or Glenn and Bob and you know Bob howerd and Brew would always be with us.

He said, where do you want to go? You want to get steak? I don't know. You want to get fish?

I don't know.

And so you guys would go somewhere, know, go get Chinese food or something, and then you come.

Back and go, hey, we should have had the steak. And he said, like that was that was what it was like hanging out with Brew. He just was kind of even keel.

But he said, ask him about the pranks because I think the Blackwood Boys got to him a couple of times, including one where they got a hold of your shoulder pads on game day.

Oh one with my shoulder pads I had, Uh we were playing I think we played on the West Coast, and you know we had to we had to pack all of our own stuff.

Uh.

After a game, and there was shampoo and some they end up putting shampoo all over my damn shoulder pads and everything. And that next week it rained and rain like hell. And then Eddie Newman is coming out trying to block me, and I got I got sucks coming out and everything. Eddie's trying to block me and and he can and Sula's yelling Ateddie and saying, come on, Eddie blocking and he said, I can't. It's so he ran to play a couple more times. And Shola keeps on yelling at Eddie about it.

Man.

So really I've gotta ended up getting pranked on it, but I can just I'm picturing, you know how the kids, the seniors in high school whatever, they they go put the dishwashers fluid in the uh in the fountains. The next thing you know, it's bubbling up. I'm just picturing your shoulder pads bubbling up like this.

Oh my god.

Now they check you, right, the officials check you to make sure you don't have anything sick on your on your jersey.

Or you're right.

Because we used to sort of spray silicon on her and use the two way tape and all that stuff. But I still think they used the two way tape. When we were winning a lot, people used to bring sheet cakes all the time and we would have it like after after we wait in, make it like on a Friday or so Thursday Friday, and they would come back, you know, all the guys would be out still out for special teams and you know like bow Camper and Blackwoods, they would come in earlier, and that's they would take a piece of cake, cut out a piece of cake on the corner something, cut it in half, you know, take out some of the inners, put it with that that stuff that you used for the Yeah, they would put it back and make it look and Cobs got it one and he was he was he he's started eating it and then he went straight to the restaurant.

They know they weren't killing someone one of.

The many crazy things that those guys dead.

How they know they weren't about to kill somebody with that stuff, you know, not FDA approved them. Sure, big seth right, And it's like, I mean, my goodness, that's disgusting.

Yeah, they clearly weren't putting that much thought behind it.

Ju I saw those guys on boat campers show out the pastor recently and they still laughed. They're in their seventies and they laugh about it like they're middle schoolers. To this day, they still think it's the funniest damn thing they've ever done.

Yeah, yeah, I can see that anyway, great time that was. You know, when you're winning and everything, you can away with a lot of stuffs exactly, And we used to get away with a lot of stuff. But we always you know, we won. We once we were on the field, we we had a job to do it. We kicked, but but we I tell you we had God, we had some great coaches.

You know.

Arnd was a great coach and uh boy, I hated when he left. And uh it's just you know, I think A J could see that say the same thing about it, because I think Arnd and AJ were pretty close.

Yeah, you know, Bob, I was going to talk about Arnsby, you know what I mean. You know Bill Arnsbarger. Every time we have somebody on that that means any of your teammates that were on defense, especially the first team that they talk about absolutely is Bill.

And what he was like.

Man, we know you played for some legendary guys, you know, the Woody hates the Don shul even Truck Knox.

Right, where does Arnsbarger? Where?

Where does he rank for you? Even though it's in DC, Where is he rank amongst those head coaches with you?

Oh?

God, he was right there. More better in a way of knowledge, in a way because a great example is we were playing the Jets up in Shea Stadium and AJ pulls a hamstring and warm up. So I'm pretty sure it was Jets or the Colts, one of the two. Anyway, we get in right before the game, we go in the showers, were our locker, we're we're are in Arnty has a big old blackboard up and he says, look, we're going to go from a three to four defense to a four to three defense, which means, you know, instead of three line linemen and four linebackers, we're going to go to a four four man, four down linemen and three linebackers. And we just did it, and we played the same defenses and everything, and we kicked their butt. They didn't know what they didn't know, So that was one one hell of a thing. They didn't know how to block it. Well, they had to make some adjustments, but man, just do that right before the game was pretty pretty damn good.

And you know, it's a testament to you guys though, brute, you know what I mean, because you guys are able to make that adjustment and play that that defense. Do you guys, did you guys crackit it all before that or just maybe it just there's what we're gonna do. And you guys adapted because you guys knew each other so well on that defense playing together.

Yeah, that's true, you know. So Hey, going back to bow camp.

And I got traded.

Absolutely when I got traded here and I heard that Bow went was going from outside linebacker to down lineman, I said, And I was going to be his roommate. I said, yere, why would they put I'm coming in and taking this guy job and can there putting him down and putting his hand in the dirt and me, you know, right next to him at times. And I said, oh man, this is going to go over real well as being roommates and all that. So but it's he he said he wanted to go down be alignment, so and which made me feel better unless he was just lying.

Yeah, he just wanted to be a good guy because.

He was I think Pro Bowl. He went to Pro Bowl as a as the outside linebacker.

Yeah, he definitely did.

And it's you know, it's interesting all you guys kind of had that similar build, right, tall and long and and uh now you know sometimes they call guys tweeners, but you guys both had the ability because you were defensive end for four years in college.

So you guys, yeah, but I was really I was even in college.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have my hand in the dirt. He was two points.

Oh see, I didn't watch film Juice. I didn't prep accordingly.

So that's how that's how those it's really more the three fourths have the really linebackers, defensive ends.

And yeah, really we were we were a basically uh four, let's see, we were we were a four to three three four, We were three days basically.

So now they call you an edge, right now, that's the termination.

But yeah, one one lee, Yeah, one name, Now that's it.

That's it.

Although I don't think, you know, like Chop Robinson is in that category. I don't think he's selling real estate this offseason. Juice, that's I think it. I don't think Chop is out.

There, yeah doing that.

So let me ask you this about it, and we're gonna get you out of here soon because and so gracious for the time you're giving us. You went to three Super Bowls in your career, right, one with one with the Rams, two with the Dolphins. Unfortunately you didn't get to bring home that trophy. But you start to look at just how prolific your career was. Thirteen years in the league, go to three Super Bowls, played for Hall of Fame head coach. You know, the killer bees, you get on the number one defense in the league.

At one point, you.

Never were selected to a Pro Bowl. And I was doing the research. There was an article where they ranked like the best linebackers in the history of the game who never were rewarded for that, never were selected to a Pro Bowl? Is that something that you know? Juicce joked earlier about, Hey, we're training to Miami. Okay, all right, sounds good?

Is that?

Does that kind of does it bother you? Does it piss you off? Or you the kind of guy that feels disrespected or is it? Hey, look I I my performance was what it was. I know the guys around me respected me and I don't. I don't need a title like that to justify, you know, my quality of play.

Well, I think it just made me work hard, It really did. You know.

I was definitely picked off, and especially you know, I think my third year in the league, I had a pretty good year, and then I think my second or third year down here with Dolphins, it was pretty good. So but uh, you know, they sometimes it's politics. Who knows. There's a couple of guys had have been at the Pro Bowl years and years, and they just it's you know, the guys that vote. You know, a lot of the players vote on these guys, and the uh, they don't some of them, most of them don't get to play against them, so they just put the ones that were there from the year before. So you know, like I said, it definitely made me work harder and and but uh, you know, it bothered me for a little bit.

Right, I'm gonna tell you this really better about you because I didn't get in either.

And I'm like, man, yeah, it.

Bothered should bother you, man, because you're right, a lot of times they go on reputation, you know, somebody on a name. You know, it's just like sometimes in politics, you know, they vote for a god because they've heard that name, oh whatever, you know, what their last name might be, and they don't know anything about them. Man, And it's it's not right, It really isn't. So I'm with you man. You said it used to bother you. It still bothers me. And this is thirty years later, Bruce, so you're right there we go. Well, I'm sorry I brought it up.

Hope you guys both.

Yeah, off to see you guys like that.

That's that's right. I know that.

I definitely know, too good. Too good.

Well, look, we end every episode of this podcast the same way, Bob, and it is our fish tank two minute drill. I always say the offensive players and defensive players have a different perspective on the two minute drill because you just want like a strip sack and get the ball back and get out of here. But you know, we're the offensive guys are trying to get milk everything they can out of that thing. End of the day, we're putting two minutes on the clock here, We're gonna throw a few fun questions at you. Everything's lighthearted here, hopefully that's the case. And then we'll let you go.

You ready?

Okay?

All right? They all have the same.

Reactions juice, like, oh, J didn't tell me this when I agreed to do this thing, all right, two minutes around the clock, kick this thing off, juice.

All right. So Bro, we talked a little bit about, you know, Bruce Rooms in the wings. Man.

Unfortunately I won't be able to enjoy those or that. But man, what a hell of a run Bruce Room had down here, and what a legacy had left down here. But when I went there, Brew, I was always about getting hot barbecue, getting it mixed out. For me, What does Brew order when he went to dinner at Bruce Room.

I would still get the Triple Threat, which is three different types of sauces mixed in, and then I would get the buff buff chips with a side of buff the Triple Threat sauce, so I could dip it in to dip the chips into the Triple Threat sauce.

So I got a real quick, big set on my phone because I know exactly what's talking about, and we can call time out whenever we want to. Asking about all these these killer bees that are doing restaurant stuff. Man, you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, there's there's so much. So is this your own sauce? This is I mean somebody is their own recipe or you did you get it from some some of the other guys, bull campers in and Bumbhowers they've got some restaurants too.

Do you guys share anything?

Uh? Well, they they probably Uh. Bumhower started it all with my ex partner.

Eddie.

Howk Eddie h was I don't know, back in the I don't know, seventies or whatever. He used to come and uh after the games in the Orange Boy he used to bring his motor home and always bring wings and uh then that's how I got to know about wings. And but Eddie started helping Bob out in Alabama back in god, I don't remember when, back in the seventies, I guess, but Eddie's the one that came up with the triple threat sauce, putting different sauces together.

You know.

He he was like a man s He was a kitchen guy.

He liked the kitchen.

I was always up front, you know, talking to the people and all that. But he was, like I said, back there trying different things, doing different recipes and all that.

There you go, Juice, you got it telling you ohio and food, and it just throws them off the entire game plan and just gets thrown out the window.

Right clock is running again. The Killer Bees.

We know that nickname was, of course a reference to the number of starters on your great defense whose last name began with, of course, the letter B. But did you know that there are eleven players in Miami Dolphins history who were double killer Bees, so to speak, because their first name and their last name starts with the letter B. You, Bob Razinski, are obviously one of those eleven, and Juice, believe it or not, Bob played with four other double bees no way during his time with the Miami Dolphins. Can you name of the eleven guys, Bob, Bob Howers one?

Absolutely get that one.

Oh yeah, that's and none of the Blackwoods, so plan.

I can't think.

Yeah. One was a defensive tackle, uh that you played with in Barnett. Yeah, now get back half again. These were kind of in the later years with your your Dolphin tenure. You had a guy who played safety after the Blackwoods. Oh but Brown, Now, I don't know, I didn't know this guy. I don't know how long I guess he was only here for one year. So there was a guy who was an offensive tackle. I don't know if that name will jump out at youre not. Bill Beals is a guy that was an offensive tackle only for one year in nineteen eighty seven. Now we're going to fast forward to post your tenure. There wasn't Ohio State guy, but he was a special teamer. He was a punter by the name of Brent Bartholomew that had one year here. So we had him. We had Bruce Bannon, so we had a Penn State or juice. Bruce Bannon was a linebacker who was seventy three to seventy four.

I wasn't born yet.

All right, well we'll go even back further.

There was Bob Brugers, who was another linebacker from Minnesota.

All right, uh, all killer there's all the bees. Not killer bees, he's just bees, different kind of bees.

Now, the guys that played with Bob were killer bee killer bees because they were killers, right, double bees.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah.

So you had Brandon boy, you're talking, you're talking beef.

Square there it is. They had Brand Foyer.

Most recently, well, I guess there was Bryce Butler who was a wide receiver out of San Diego State, And of course we just had Braxton Barrios, who spent two years here as a Dolphins receiver. And I guess the loan remaining double Bee with the Miami Dolphins is offensive line coach Butch Berry. So eleven players one coach. Those are the double Bees. I think we're past two minutes, but we got one more and.

We got to get you.

Gotta get this one in Bay, all right, So okay, Bob, we we stay, you know, with this killer bees thing for the final question. So snow White had seven dwarfs and the Miami Dolphins had seven bees.

I'm going to name each dwarf, well seven that were starting.

I think we had matter fact, we had yeah, at one time there eight of them.

Okay, I'm going to name each dwarf, and I love you could let me know.

Wi's killer bee is most of the line.

Let's start with grumpy, Oh, Bob Hower.

Bob Hamer was grumpy?

Then?

Who was happy?

I was gonna think it?

What about Happy Blackwood? Either on?

All right? What about Doc?

Oh? That would be.

That would be Glenn all right, Glenn Blackwood because he was he was our quarterback. Uh uh. Basically he would change all the plays and he was pretty smart.

Well that leaves Lyle with the Aquius Gail going back to happy. Okay, what about sleep who's sleepy?

My roommate bumha boat camp? He used to he used to.

I used to go to breakfast at training camp. I used to go to breakfast and and bowhead is uh I the tiger sheets anywhere anyway? But he would have a trainer come in and while he was still laying in bed sleeping, and that the trainer would wrap his ankles so he wouldn't have to so he wouldn't have to go to the training room and get his ankles wrapped.

Oh, we got to talk to him about this one. Oh my god, he's never told us that story.

I've never he's never told that story around us, right.

I got asked him about the tiger sheets too, and they never they never got they never all those six weeks or so in uh practice, they never got.

Come on, both, who's left one of the.

What about bashful? I about to say, That's what I was thinking too, because.

What do we have left? We got betters, we got thousand sneezee.

Could be Doug.

Okay, so sneezy as Doug Betters.

Yeah right now this has got me. It's tough for me. But somebody's gotta be dopey, Bob. I mean you you actually you can. Some guys can have you know, dual meetings.

They have two names. They have to bro. But who's dopey? Man? And without getting in trouble, who's dopey?

I can't say about it? You know? Mark Brown was the other.

Okay, our eighth one, perfect perfect choice.

There.

I thought he was gonna give me so so Doug said, he goes he can't forget about the honorary b A. J. Boue is what he said. He's gonna say he was dopey.

There you go.

Oh that is the two minute drill. He is Bob Razinski. Bob. This was a lot of fun, man, This was This was great.

Had a great time, a great great memory.

Thank you, good hey Bob, Thanks again, man, Thanks for diving in bro all.

Right enjoying it.

Thank you, thank you.

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