Financial Review tech reporter Paul Smith and business reporter Amelia McGuire on what happens next for Australia’s two tech titans and their billionaire founders, and which company is best placed to weather the SaaSpocalypse.

This podcast is sponsored by Westpac

Further reading: 
‘A certificate for burnout?’ Inside Canva’s confetti-filled AI pivot
In the midst of the AI-fuelled wipeout of tech firms, Canva and Atlassian spruik similar talking points to very different receptions.
How Mike Cannon-Brookes’ divorce may affect the control of Atlassian
The division of the Atlassian co-founder and CEO’s shares in his divorce settlement with estranged wife Annie could have big consequences for the company.
Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian’s $37b AI fall is rational but wrong
In an interview, the billionaire says the software giant will emerge stronger from the sharemarket sell-off and that he misses running it with Scott Farquhar.

Financial Review tech reporter Paul Smith and business reporter Amelia McGuire on what happens next for Australia&rsquo;s two tech titans and their billionaire founders, and which company is best placed to weather the SaaSpocalypse.
This podcast is sponsored by <a href="https://www.westpac.com.au/business-banking/industries/">Westpac</a>
Further reading:&nbsp; <a href="https://www.afr.com/rich-list/a-certificate-for-burnout-inside-canva-s-confetti-filled-ai-pivot-20260408-p5zm5b?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">&lsquo;A certificate for burnout?&rsquo; Inside Canva&rsquo;s confetti-filled AI pivot</a> In the midst of the AI-fuelled wipeout of tech firms, Canva and Atlassian spruik similar talking points to very different receptions. <a href="https://www.afr.com/technology/how-mike-cannon-brookes-divorce-may-affect-the-control-of-atlassian-20260521-p5zzn5?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">How Mike Cannon-Brookes&rsquo; divorce may affect the control of Atlassian</a> The division of the Atlassian co-founder and CEO&rsquo;s shares in his divorce settlement with estranged wife Annie could have big consequences for the company. <a href="https://www.afr.com/technology/cannon-brookes-says-atlassian-s-37b-ai-fall-is-rational-but-wrong-20260409-p5zmj2?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Cannon-Brookes says Atlassian&rsquo;s $37b AI fall is rational but wrong</a> In an interview, the billionaire says the software giant will emerge stronger from the sharemarket sell-off and that he misses running it with Scott Farquhar.

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