Stephen Holder of ESPN joins the program to kick off the second hour. Holder says that it was known Hines was unhappy in the locker room. He may not have asked for the trade but was likely fine with being moved. He doesn't know the exact parameters surrounding the trade, and what may transform the 6th round pick into a 5th round pick. Do Chris Ballard's actions yesterday speak to Chris Ballard's job security? Marc asks if the Marcus Brady firing is a scapegoat move by someone in the office. Holder details how Reich and Siriani worked well together because they had different personalities that formed a "yin-yang" situation. Holder speculates on how the Colts will fair against the New England Patriots this Sunday.

Alex Golden host of the "Setting the Pace" podcast starts the final hour talking about Myles Turner's comments on the WOJ podcast a few days ago. Golden believes the comment was fine so long as it was a hypothetical question but also wishes Turner did a better job backing that statement up against the Brooklyn Nets the following day. He also believes that head-coach Rick Carlisle has put Buddy Hield in a great position to succeed either with the team or potentially as a trade. Kevin asks if there should be urgency to get Bennedict Mathurin into the starting lineup. Golden says the Pacers are in a position to "feed-the-hot-hand" with players like Mathurin, Hield, Duarte, and Haliburton. Kevin wonders who is a key player and who is expendable or just a roll player. Golden believe Haliburton and Mathurin are the only two players who are untouchable.