What does it take to turn promising energy technology into real-world projects? In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Andy Beard, Shell's Vice President of Hydrogen, discusses what’s needed to develop large-scale renewable-hydrogen projects.

Hydrogen is already widely used around the world, but most of it is produced using fossil fuels. The conversation explores where renewable hydrogen could make the biggest difference and how customer demand, infrastructure, economics and policy all play a role in its development.

The episode also features Daniëlle Ebentreich, a manager at Shell’s Pernis refinery in Netherlands, who offers a closer look at how renewable hydrogen from Shell’s Holland Hydrogen 1 project will be integrated into day-to-day operations at Pernis.

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Notes:

- The reference in this episode to Shell being one of the world’s leading providers of conventional and low-carbon fuels relates to its status as one of the world’s leading suppliers of conventional and lower-carbon fuels and lubricants to aviation and marine customers.

- The reference in this episode to 9–14 million tonnes per annum relates to the capacity that, according to the Hydrogen Council’s Global Hydrogen Compass 2025, the current project pipeline could support by 2030, after accounting for delays and expected attrition and depending on how much supply secures offtake.

- HH1 is intended primarily to produce hydrogen qualifying as renewable, although there may be limited periods where operational constraints require continued production using electricity that does not meet the applicable requirements for renewable hydrogen.

- In 2025, 80.85% of Shell’s global investments included oil & gas, 9.58% included low-carbon energy solutions and 9.58% non-energy products.

Global Hydrogen Compass 2025: https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf

About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html

Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

What does it take to turn promising energy technology into real-world projects? In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Andy Beard, Shell's Vice President of Hydrogen, discusses what&rsquo;s needed to develop large-scale renewable-hydrogen projects.
Hydrogen is already widely used around the world, but most of it is produced using fossil fuels. The conversation explores where renewable hydrogen could make the biggest difference and how customer demand, infrastructure, economics and policy all play a role in its development.
The episode also features Dani&euml;lle Ebentreich, a manager at Shell&rsquo;s Pernis refinery in Netherlands, who offers a closer look at how renewable hydrogen from Shell&rsquo;s Holland Hydrogen 1 project will be integrated into day-to-day operations at Pernis.
Listen or watch now.
Notes:
- The reference in this episode to Shell being one of the world&rsquo;s leading providers of conventional and low-carbon fuels relates to its status as one of the world&rsquo;s leading suppliers of conventional and lower-carbon fuels and lubricants to aviation and marine customers.
- The reference in this episode to 9&ndash;14 million tonnes per annum relates to the capacity that, according to the Hydrogen Council&rsquo;s Global Hydrogen Compass 2025, the current project pipeline could support by 2030, after accounting for delays and expected attrition and depending on how much supply secures offtake.
- HH1 is intended primarily to produce hydrogen qualifying as renewable, although there may be limited periods where operational constraints require continued production using electricity that does not meet the applicable requirements for renewable hydrogen.
- In 2025, 80.85% of Shell&rsquo;s global investments included oil &amp; gas, 9.58% included low-carbon energy solutions and 9.58% non-energy products.
Global Hydrogen Compass 2025: <a href="https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf">https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf</a>
About The Energy Podcast: <a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>
Cautionary note: <a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html">https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html</a>

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