Drug busts are breaking records. Meth, coke, MDMA, you name it. But no matter how tough the crackdowns get, the flow just doesn’t stop.

Now, the Drug Foundation says it’s time to ditch punishment and focus on health. This week a new survey from the Helen Clark Foundation and Otago University shows half of Kiwis agree: we should shift the money from policing to healthcare.

Join Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell as they speak to Dr Rose Crossin from Otago University, former police officer and National MP Mike Sabin and journalist Russell Brown for a powerful conversation on whether or not we should legalise recreational drugs in Aotearoa New Zealand. 

The episode also features a kōrero with Tricia Walsh, who has lived experience as a drug user on the receiving end of a policing approach. 

The Elephant is made with support from NZ On Air.

Drug busts are breaking records. Meth, coke, MDMA, you name it. But no matter how tough the crackdowns get, the flow just doesn&rsquo;t stop.
Now, the Drug Foundation says it&rsquo;s time to ditch punishment and focus on health. This week a new survey from the Helen Clark Foundation and Otago University shows half of Kiwis agree: we should shift the money from policing to healthcare.
Join Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell as they speak to Dr Rose Crossin from Otago University, former police officer and National MP Mike Sabin and journalist Russell Brown for a powerful conversation on whether or not we should legalise recreational drugs in Aotearoa New Zealand.&nbsp; The episode also features a kōrero with Tricia Walsh, who has lived experience as a drug user on the receiving end of a policing approach.&nbsp; The Elephant is made with support from NZ On Air.

The Elephant is New Zealand's boldest new podcast and video series, fearlessly tackling the tough topics we often avoid discussing in a world where the risk of causing offence or risking cancellation can stifle open kōrero. 

Hosted by veteran journalists Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell, listen every week for diverse viewpoints, tough questions, open minded discussions and expert commentary. 

To watch the video episodes, check out The Elephant on YouTube or www.nzherald.co.nz

The Elephant is made with support from NZ on Air

The Elephant is New Zealand's boldest new podcast and video series, fearlessly tackling the tough topics we often avoid discussing in a world where the risk of causing offence or risking cancellation can stifle open kōrero.&nbsp; Hosted by veteran journalists Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell, listen every week for diverse viewpoints, tough questions, open minded discussions and expert commentary.&nbsp;
To watch the video episodes, check out The Elephant on YouTube or <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz">www.nzherald.co.nz</a>
The Elephant is made with support from NZ on Air

Veteran journalists Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell tackle the tough questions we're too afraid to ask

The Elephant

The Elephant is New Zealand's boldest new podcast and video series, fearlessly tackling the tough topics we often avoid discussing in a world where the risk of causing offence or risking cancellation can stifle open kōrero. 

Hosted by veteran journalists Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell, listen every week for diverse viewpoints, tough questions, open minded discussions and expert commentary. 

To watch the video episodes, check out The Elephant on YouTube or www.nzherald.co.nz

The Elephant is New Zealand's boldest new podcast and video series, fearlessly tackling the tough topics we often avoid discussing in a world where the risk of causing offence or risking cancellation can stifle open kōrero.&nbsp; Hosted by veteran journalists Miriama Kamo and Mark Crysell, listen every week for diverse viewpoints, tough questions, open minded discussions and expert commentary.&nbsp;
To watch the video episodes, check out The Elephant on YouTube or <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz">www.nzherald.co.nz</a>

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