The Element PodcastE312: The Most Important Thing to Remember While Hunting Hogs (Hog SZN Success and January Topics)
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On This Episode, Tyler Jones & K.C. Smith sit down on the Blue Nebraska Furniture couch and talk about their recent adventure out hog hunting East Texas. As things start to slow down before Turkey season and fishing ramps up, we like to do some hog hunting around the area and harvest the meat! We talk about that and other topics and issues. Don't forget to go watch our latest video from that hog hunting adventure over on our YouTube channel. Thanks for listening!
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Hunting East Texas Hogs in January
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KC'S MOST DRAMATIC HUNT OF HIS LIFE
I'm Casey and I'm Tyler, and you're listening to the Elephant podcast. Rage Rage, Rage.
What is going on y'all?
As you realize this is the Rage podcast of the Element podcast. This podcast is brought to you by First Light Gear. I got on First Live Breeches right now because I'm wearing some trace because we're in Texas and that's all we wear is trace, right, Tyler. Apparently actually we wear a lot more than that. But man, about near any day here in the middle of the.
Day is trace weather outside.
It's weird being could be I like these pants a lot, though, but anyways, Uh, it is what early January and it got to like sixty something today, probably outside got the door open on the house. Tyler's yawning like it's afternoon naptime and it just feels out time for sleep. And I guarantee you I'm tired, but I've been finding a headache the last couple of hours.
But probably because we get on these rabbit trails trying to figure out we got like some really cool ideas, y'all, stuff we want to do for videos, but there's a lot of research involved, and like texts and phone calls to be seen, sent and to try to be received in it. By the end of the day, you end up just like beat because people don't actually want to answer their call phone calls, and especially if they work for the government, and you know, it's hard to get in touch with people to see what you can do, how you can do it, if you can get a permit for it, all this other stuff.
So but here's the frustrations. How they work.
They're like, uh, it's gonna we're gonna make it hard, and it's gonna be like hard to figure out. But you know what, if you go down there and do it wrong, we're gonna find you. That's how that's how they roll. Yeah, if you're listening to this podcast and I just called you because you're a game board and call me back, yeah, I'd get an answer.
Today.
I called TPWD because that's Texas Park's a Wildlife department.
Oh I thought that was Texas Public Wasting Disease.
That's the same uh we uh, same department, same building, the same building. They love to regulate us because we're just so regular, you know, so we're regulated, but.
Here in our county.
This is this is a Texas sad story for regulation if you want to hear it.
We have essentially three dear seasons.
We have a archery season, we have a general season, and we have a muzzl order season. And then within there there are tiny seasons sprinkled in, like uh youth season which overlaps some of those seasons, and gun season is general season. But you can also use a bow there, or a muzzloader or a crossbow if you would like to. You use a crossbow during archery season, and youth can hunt at other times too, And then there's a youth season that's going on during the muzzloader season, but the youth can use whatever weapon they would like to. However, in the muzzloader season, which occurs on the eighth through the twenty first of January in our county, you can only use a muzzloader, which is a device that is loaded by everything through the muzzle that does not include ball and cap guns like a old school revolver. You can't even use that. It has to be a muzzloader. So that's fun.
There's this thing called a lesser weapon. Some people would some government agencies would designate that a lesser weapon could hunt during X season.
It sounds like they're trying to sell something. Is that intel? Uh?
Is that what's entailed in the Texas Muzzleloaders. No, it does not qualify. There's no less, only one thing you can do, and it's only muzzloorder hunt, not black powder, but muzzloader.
Yeah, muzzloader.
Yeah, it's right. It's not a black powder season, it's a muzzloader season. So you have that case you own a muzzleloader to hunt that season and extend.
Your dear season. What if you don't own but you borrow one, you do that.
Thanks for the clarification, which might be what you're doing. What is the reason that they would do this thing? Well, I bet you that someone at Thompson's Center or someone at night knows somebody at Texas Parks and Wildlife thing.
Yeah, just to guess, I don't know.
I mean, it's going to be in the books, and I'm going to go by what the book says, right, But the real idea is that So no like civil disobedience for now, not usually not if it's going to involve a fine. Appreciate you that on Clay's podcast and talked about how you wanted to be a civil disability guy.
Yeah.
Well one of these days I might have to be. But for now, I've inherited a muzzloader, which is nice. It's not a nice muzzleloader. It's kind of one of the cheap ones, but it works just fine whatever. It ain't one of those muzzloaders you can go out west and shoot six hundred yards with during the mussloader season in some states, which is kind of ridiculous. It's kind of crossbows and archer season. But anyways, I don't want to make them mad, but I did you have to use only a mussloader, which sounds like they're just trying to sell mussloaders to me personally, but maybe somebody can prove me wrong. All that to say, I'm trying to take this friend of mine, hunting.
His name's Hunter. He's eighteen years old, and.
He was in the youth group, and Hunter's good guy. And within the Texas seasons as well, there are only certain days you can kill dose because of biological data.
I think like it.
Biologically it shows that you shouldn't kill dose in late NOVEMNE or the month of December, right.
I mean, which biological report are you talking about?
I'm speaking facetiously there's really no reason for that, except that's just the way they have it that you can kill dose an all of archery season, the first two weeks of general season, and then a month and a half gap happens where you can't kill those, and then again in muzzleloader season you can kill dose on my property where we're going to go hunt with a muzzleloader because that's where it's legal.
There are no legal bucks.
There are no bucks that are thirteen inches wide on my property and have not been for quite some time. There also are no spikes on camera that I have seen, so those would be the two legal bucks. There's unbranched antler or a buck that has a inside spread of thirteen inches or greater.
Neither of those things exist to my property.
Therefore, for my friend hunter to have a hunt that includes opportunity, he needs to go out there with me during muzzleloader season so he can shoot a dough and he will be able to do that. I think they are there every day of the week eating my corn, and we're going to have a good time shooting one with a muzzleoader from about forty five yards away. Now, and here is the problem. Hunter, through his high school outdoor education program did all it took to have a hunter's safety certificate. However, he says that the teacher didn't really turn in all the stuff, which I don't really know how that works, but essentially, he took the class, took the test, passed it, but is not hunter safety certified in the state of Texas, which I think that's actually a nationally recognized thing, right, So, like, you get hunter safety certified in your state and then it's valid cross state lines. But Hunter now has to purchase a one year deferral on his hunter safety certificate that allows him to accompany me in the woods because I am a hunter Safety certified but he is not. He's an eighteen year old young man who knows nothing about hunting. His family does not hunt, but he's interested in hunting, and I'm going to try my best to facilitate that and foster that, and you know, hopefully he teaches his family and kids one day to hunt as well. Why Because I like hunting and I want more people to hunt. I don't want it to go away.
Really, So you don't agree with people who want less hunters in the world at woods.
I don't agree with people that want less hunters in the woods. I do agree with people that want less hunters in the woods per acre.
Yeah, so you want more acres, let's add acres and not reduce numbers.
How do we do that.
We're gonna have to lease some ground. So we're gonna have to do the government. No governments me and you.
Oh, you want us to instag so that people can hunt it.
Yeah, no, I mean you can hunt it and take our friends.
Oh, so we're not crowding up the public lands.
But the problem with this whole deal is that, you know, really, what I want to do, Tyler, is I don't I don't really want the government to go out and assess new properties, Like that's kind of growing government and I'm not a fan of that. But what I want the government to do is to just dad blame, make the properties that they already are holding in trust for us available to us.
Yeah. That's a big problem.
That could help.
I mean, I would, I would.
I don't know the exact figures, but it's at least three to one ratio of land that you cannot white to hunt versus land you can white to hunt that the government has in public trust. But anyway, The whole issue that we are kind of trying to tackle right here is that my friend Hunter wants to hunt, and because some circumstance, he doesn't have his hundred safety course, he has one year of probationary period that he can hunt without that, and then in perpetuity, he is no longer allowed to hunt in the state of Texas after this one year deferral until he gets his hunter safety course done. And he's not gonna listen to this podcast. So I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you, Tyler that I doubt he does it. I doubt that he follows up and makes that happen. Now, there's a part of me that appreciates the side of hunter's safety and all that, but again, it's still just a regulation.
It's us being regulated out of a thing. And so how do you fix that? Can I not is?
Can they not add some mentor program to where like I sign off on him and say, this guy's good? Why, you know, like, why does the government have to tell him he can hunt? Well?
I don't understand.
I don't know for sure, because like if I was just being real, like surface level and just off the cuff here, like on private land. There's not probably just I mean, like there's there's things that he could do to injure others, but it's a lot less chance the he injures somebody on private while hunting then on public as far as like knowing had to point a gun in the right direction or whatever. There are some things in the hunter safety course, or there were when I took it. They had to do with identification of animals. So I guess you could say that he's hurting other hunters if he shoots a mule deer when he's supposed to shoot a white tail. So you know, like he's he's taking a mule deer off the landscape that somebody else could shoot. It's not like a physical harm. It's just like a hurting their chances at you know, going out out and achieving their goals on their properties or whatever. So I mean there's some things like that.
I have. Those are all great arguments.
I mean, of course I have an anti governmental view of things, right, but uh so instead of just raging on that, I would say that that your argument holds up except for the fact that if hunter wants to go out right now without a hunting license, without a hundred safety course with a high capacity semi automatic rifle at night, in the dark, he can shoot one million hogs tonight if he wants to without a hundred safety course.
How about that? How about that and even have to have a license and have to have a license. Huh, Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah. I don't like politics.
Do you like pigs?
I do?
Good? Yep, you talking about pigs. We did some pigging the other day. We did, we pigged, We picked for a few days. Yeah, y'all. Uh, if you listen to the last podcast, you heard about my granddad passed away and that was it's tough. It's not really sad, it was time, but it's still tough to deal with. But within all that, we also had to get a video out and that meant to do some big hunting and it actually kind of helped me. I feel like, kind of nice to get out and do the thing. Oh me too. It's pretty fun. Yeah, you don't have to deal with nobody. Kids around all smell both of us smell like just neutral, right, not even good, it's just neutral humans.
Yeah, no handholding, dude, it's all this time of here is so nice, like people and some of these humans that hang out with us a bunch. You know, they talk about how hot it is and whatever, and it is like it's hot in the in the summer around here, but the thing that you get here right now is like, dude, it's sunny still and fifty five sixty degrees.
I mean it is beautiful.
Like anything you want to do outside is I mean, this is the time to do it. And it's just like this a lot right now. It's like just to go out this time of year men and walk around in the woods is just one of my favorite things I would like. I think I'd rather walk around in the woods in January than any other month probably, even though like November is fun there's sign and stuff, but like, just like a good, good and just sixty degree day in January, it's just hard to beat.
Man.
You know, everything's just you know, all the leaves are off the you know, it's sunny still and you can hear you know, things walking around. There's squirrels moving around. There's some kind of like less. I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day, you and I both are friends with We're talking about how like deer hunting is just so stressful sometimes, Like it's just the big game aspect the fact that like they're they're highly valued by the public, so it costs a lot to hunt them sometimes, so you put a lot into this property money wise, with especially at corn and whatever else, you know. I mean for those that don't do that, food plots or whatever, like this stuff can get pretty expensive. And then you go up there and you got like a two week rut window sometimes or whatever. It's just like, you know, I don't I don't quite probably stress like I used to, or even the same way, but like quite as much as I used to. But like when I had like one big buck to shoot a year, maybe it was like, holy, this is the super Bowl. It's exciting, but it's also really like if I don't get it done, it's like I got to find time between work schedule to go back up there and do this thing, you know. And it's just nice to like walk around in January with a shygun and hope that either a squirrel bus out of a tree or a wood duck pops off the creek, you know, and you have the right government regulated shot.
You in your shotgun and the appropriate number of shots in you tube and all that stuff, right, yeah, and blaze if the squirrel and not blaze if the waterfowlion.
How many ducks can you shoot today? Six? I can shoot a bunch. I mean I could six. The number six I think is the limit right now. But you're only to have five shells in your gun.
Three good for ducks because it would be so if you're a good shot, you probably get them all one.
It'd be way worse.
For you if you you know, for the ducks if we ride to shoot off five, I mean they would for sure get that fourth and fish shot off.
It'd be worth it, for sure.
I'm surprised that there's not an AMAL companies out there just just pushing to get rid of that one because those fish shots would be bad.
I think they're just glad to exist right now. AMAL companies. Yeah, yeah, probably thank you FEDS for letting us exist.
Yeah. Anyways, so we were talking about pig on Yeah, but I mean pigs is part of that too, Like, yeah, I mean I could grab a shotgun and I could take steel shot, uh, some lead number eights and some lead buck shot and go have a good time in the woods right now, you know, the pigs and squirrels and all that. Yeah, or bows. I mean, that's one of the things we're gonna do a lot of here pretty soon. But we did some gun hunt the other day. You really wanted some hog meat, and we we made made that happen.
We got a lot, a lot.
Yeah.
We started from like a nearly empty freezer to like a completely full freezer.
What is the opposite of bearing a lead?
Right? And that what it's called. Whenever you're like, you don't give it away, right, you kind of tease it. But if you like, if I've ever heard that expression, it's like a newspaper expression, I have a mixed up. Well, this thing used to exist, no kid can dude the the paper. There used to be a big newspaper building in Silver Springs, and it's like moved to this little bitty office now it still exists. I don't even know if they print it. I don't know for sure. I bet they do, but golly man, it's like, you know, it used to be a paper every day, and the big one was Wednesday and weekend.
Will it ever go away?
M maybe yeah, it will all go away one day.
You think, yeah, you think you'll be seven years old wanting to just look at your phone.
I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna have that fast or not.
But uh, man, I'm like at a at a pivot point in my life where like I think I'm maxed out on phone, Like I'm ready to do less phone.
For sure.
I didn't look at my phone hardly at all on the stand this year. Yeah, I didn't sound all hardly.
But it's it's like so numbing. Yeah, I can just get tired of it because sooner or later you realize that Facebook especially but all of them, especially Instagram too. Man, it's the same stuff over and over again. It's like there's nothing really new, especially like this is weird, but like once you're married, you're like, I don't care about that.
Yeah, I mean Instagram is, and probably all of them is an attack on males for sure, young males, Like, dude, we get so many spam messages in our inbox.
Dude, I was noticing that on the like message requests. Yeah, it's like a bunch of German spam bots or Russian bots yep of just like you know, just I don't know if you get edited for that, but it's like the.
Aography, you know, just coming after you.
It's like it is dude, It's like it's just they know that twenty to thirty year old or twenty to forty year old males are just wound up man.
You know, I think even seventy year olds or that way, they just don't have quite the gumption.
You know.
Yeah, no, for sure, we're just we're visual, yeah beings, but like it's it's an attack.
Man.
I hate it and not looking forward to, you know, my son having to live through that kind of stuff.
I know, man, that's something that so I have an old boss that really means a lot to me. He taught me a lot of stuff about business in the world and all kinds of stuff, but that was one of his big things because he could see it coming, you know, it just like twenty eleven through twenty thirteen, he was like, man, it's no longer like whenever we were kids, like you might find a dirty mag or something somewhere, you know, we're just gonna come out and talk about what we're talking about here, guys, And it was different, and now it's like not back then, not every kid was exposed to it early, but now it's like and there's statistics on this stuff, but like kids are export exposed to you know, racy stuff very very early. And it's he said that he had to start or his change was that it was what are you going to do whenever you see it? Instead of like trying to tell your kids to stay away from it? You know, like, what do you oh?
For sure?
I mean, that's the way to look at it, too, man, I think, because uh, I mean, I know, I know some people who were like quote unquote sheltered as kids and went off the dagum deep end at some point in their twenties, and you know, end up probably a lot of them end up being really good people man, and get through that. But like, you can't just ignore it, dude, Yeah, I mean, Jesus did not come to this earth and ignore sin, you know what I mean.
He confronted it and dealt with it.
And that's what we're supposed to do too, And we're supposed to teach our kids that too, because there's no way they go through life without encountering quite a bit of sin in this world.
And so.
You know, you can try to I mean I try, I try to keep stuff from you know, but like there's a difference in protecting innocence and sheltering.
Yeah.
Yeah, and there's you know, like there's always like family stuff, you know, like where and everybody has it, where there's something in your family that you're like, man, I really don't want my kids to be asking questions about that because I don't want to have to talk about it right now, because yeah, it's really like your kids kind of surface level and they're thinking and you try to get deep and it's hard for them to understand. So but like yeah, you, I mean you really do you have at some point you have to there's something in the family. There's something in a friend or something that you got to encounter and try to lead them through, man, and help them to understand yeah, the way that they should look at it.
It kind of hurts, like when your kids lose some innocence where our kids are different ages, you know, and I know you've been through this, but like Stone learned, oh my gosh from somebody the other day, and it like hurt my heart to hear him say that. Yeah, you know, it's like on a YouTube video for kids that he learned that.
It's like, man, yeah, like what why.
Does he need to know that that was what we were taught to say when we.
Were in Yeah, but you know, he just he's never.
Had an expletive. Yeah, he doesn't know that that need. That's a need in language, you know. But now he knows the phrase weird yea. Well, you know, life is about the disciplines, just like hunting.
Huntings about disciplines, you know, to whatever extent you want it to be. Kind of a lot of times, but like we'll get pretty deep on some white tailt tactics on this podcast, And if you're not a disciplined hunter, then you probably don't listen to this podcast.
All that often, you know what I mean.
You're saying what I'm saying here when I say life is about about the disciplines, and you had like you're going to fail, but you're constantly trying to develop yourself into better.
And uh, let's roll that into hog and an actually not roll philosophy for too long.
I have a hard time with that. I don't even care at this point.
The it all, it all is the same to me, the hog hunting stuff. What is the number one discipline with hog hunting?
Yeah, number one discipline while hunting hogs.
What do you have to mind the most your wind? That's right, that's everything. Yep, right, yep. The first time we went out there and tried to do the thing we hunted, we thought the pigs were one direction embedded, and we kind of played it real conservative.
We never saw them left out.
We're sitting up the hill from this big bottom, and then that we were, You and I were just sitting around talking, which we don't get through a whole lot of just whatever we want to talk about top talking, and then we heard the pigs down to the bottom like an hour and a half after dark. And it's because they were and it is because they were a different direction than where where we thought they were, and they were probably smelling us the whole time we're down there, and as soon as we left, not as soon as, but shortly thereafter, under the cover of darkness, they felt comfortable to come out there. So it's all about wind. You can you mean you can. You can also smell them, which is pretty dandy. You can tell where they're at sometimes by the smell or till where they've been recently. And if you go into a property and blow your wind across the whole thing.
But O real good.
There's a good chance that you don't see them for a couple of days. Yeah, for sure, they're we They're not as easy as people. You figure them out, you can kill them. But yeah, it ain't just like, oh, I'm just gonna go down to Texas and choose some pigs.
Yeah, I think so. I think sometimes some groups of pigs are The way they set up in relation to a feeder would be like a guy walks in and just has it right, and it seems easy. And then I think that the thermal thing makes it also seem like pigs are easy, but deer would be easy at not to you know what I mean.
So like they're way easier than pigs are. I think so too, don't Yeah they are.
Don't let anything slide, man, Yeah, but yeah, I mean I think I think that pigs are are more difficult than maybe even we've let on at times on the podcast.
I mean, the uh they're.
They're because they're kind of nomadic and also what is it gregarious? They like other things of their species. So like the bunch of hogs like to hang out together, they will like they're influenceable by each other and not necessarily they can they can find anything to eat, so like they don't have to go to that feeder to get something to eat if like the big Mama pig wants to take them to go grub in the hay pasture instead. So they can be patternable, but then they can all of a sudden just break pattern like no big deal, whereas like deer like you might see in the same same four doze and a family group come out to a feeder every day for two months straight, or to a field every day for two months straight, you know what I mean. So they can be a little bit sporadic at times, and also like within night and day, they can be sporadic too. So if you're wanting to hunt them in the day, you're wanting to bow hunt them, like, you're not going to do that at night, so you just kind of got to wait until something happens where they show up in the daylight if they've been coming out at night, which is one thing that we struggle with on this particular hunt.
A weird time of year where.
They're like doing this thing where they transition from being able to eat acrons anywhere they want to to have it to actually roam and find food. Yeah, And I think that's what we were noticing, is that we just now got consistent frosts to be able to rot stuff acrons. So they've been able to eat acrons until the new year for sure and not have to go when.
We saw the.
Good part of that too later, but it makes it to where they're just not roaming around and makes them really tough to find in the daytime. And then I was telling our friend Johannis about this today because he's gonna do something with us like January through about mid March. All of a sudden, it's just like you can find pigs all the time anywhere because they just are roaming around like crazy. And I think it also coincides with a peak breeding time for him too, this time of year. Yeah, that's interesting. They can breed in time they want to, but I think that they have like parts of the year where they do more of them, and it seems like right now is one of the times. I think it's probably because a lot of souls are really healthy and so they're you know, their bodies are telling them they're able to yea bear.
That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that is very interesting.
I think I was telling him, I think that there's peak breeding right now and then late summer. I think that's when they're two really peak breeding. That's when I see the most like bore messing around type activity. But I wonder if there's like I mean, I'm sure there's some sort of pheramount thing for like individuals, but I wonder if there's like a like a rut thing with them where like for that month there's a bunch there's boars that are doing more stuff. Yeah, you know, be interesting. I wonder if I wonder if there's any studies out there. I think there's somebody in Europe that can help us out. Yeah, that's actually interesting. I should pursue that a little bit. That would be cool. I yeah, I think that.
And you were talking about how the sALS are really healthy right now. We ended up so we made a video. If you haven't seen it, it's on it's on YouTube.
You should go check it out.
It is a cool video. It's different kind of what we've done. We put the whole thing together where it was like me and Eric went out with before Christmas with I went with a bow and filmed. Then we saw a rutfested deer happening rager and then put up a feeder that day or yeah, it was that day, put up a feeder and then got the pigs kind of like centralized. But like again, we couldn't get them in the daylight really, and we tried to hunt them in the daylight so obviously, so y'all could see them on camera a little bit easier. Uh, And finally we're just like, well, I guess we'll do a thermal thing. I mean, it's hard to like record case walking around in the dark if there's pigs potentially seeing us, but you can at least see with our scope. We recorded through the scope, you can see what he's shooting at. And actually it's really cool footage like that stuff, like he shows the detail of their fur and stuff too. It's pretty pretty crazy. It's pretty eat I like it. But we shot and you can go look on our Instagram too. You need to see how much fat was on salt.
The video is called hunting hogs for food because we do eat.
Them, and that's what I that's that is what I wanted, man, And like we're gonna probably do some some stuff with the fat and render it down and do some cool stuff. I mean probably do like a taste test between bear grease and pig grease.
He does the actually get that he did?
He made it up for sure, I mean I would. Well, we're gonna rename the podcast to hog fat. You know, if they can have bear grease, we can have hog fag. But uh, we're gonna make some lard out of those pigs. And I mean it's some of the best meat there is. And by the way, we killed a really nice fat sal and then a leaner but still pretty clean boar. They're both about the same weight probably, but the boar had more muscle mass than sou had more fat.
It's kind of weird. Once we had the fat.
Off of her, she was a lot smaller than him, Yeah, but she was bigger than him on the ground. Yeah. So she had like thirty pounds forty pounds of fat as nuts. Yeah, I mean, yeah, insane amount. So there's a little bit of this taste thing that'll be interested to see with the boar in the South, because you know, I kind of grew up with the whole lot and you just don't eat bores. And then I've eaten some of like backstraps and stuff. I don't like ain't too bad? Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't.
I mean that that that size boar, I don't see any reason why not to eat it, really, yeah, I mean it's it's just like, especially for people who really like, which I do, meat that just like doesn't it doesn't taste weird, you know what I mean. It tastes just like good meat, you know what I mean. Like I like that there's no like off flavor. There's no like what people call game gamey flavor really in that pork, you know.
And I think it's all about keeping it clean and yeah to the way we did it is a way to do it, for sure, on a board like carame out hole or feel dressed and then hang them up and clean them the right way. And we include some of that in the video too, if you ever want to see how you do it on a pig. It's essentially the same as you do with a deer. But we did cut the ribs out on these because they have thicker ribs, which means more meat.
I'm pretty excited to eat those me too. I'm interested in seeing how they turn out, for sure. I think I got the hog Book by my friend Jesse and I think there might be a couple of rib recipes.
I'm sure they're pretty good. Yeah, so I mean we may have it. We live in the land of barbecue. We talked about this to the day, about all the stuff we're going to lean into our barbecue side on this one. That's right, man, Yeah, make some good stuff, which I haven't done. I don't like, personally get to do much barbecue. I don't really have like a I got a smoker out there, but it's kind of does fast smoke, so it's kind of like a finisher or a starter or whatever you want to say. It's not really like you just sit there and smoke it for twelve hours, you know.
So I just haven't really this summer. Yeah, that's right. Greg did something right.
Yeah you remember the catastrophe of it.
Yeah, grease Fest. Yeah that cool. Yeah, me was good though. It was good. Yeah.
Yeah, the walls are yellow, but yeah.
But it was it was cool man. Yeah, it was fun.
In fact, I will likely shoot a few more pigs with a thermal. I think it's kind of neat.
Yeah, it's uh, it's it's really close to like what I like about it is like since you you and.
I are not afraid to eat it.
It is like almost it's a very like it's still hunting, but it feels more when you got the thermal, like, hey, I'm going out to get a chicken to put in the pot, you know what I mean. And I kind of like that because like when you need it and you know you need it, you go get it.
That's right, you know what I mean.
You know, well, ago you said thermal and I thought you meant like wind shifts, but you meant the thermal scope. Yeah. Yeah, And for those that don't know what we're talking about, it's a thermal imaging scope that sees heat such it recognizes its heat signature. So you're looking at a display that shows variance in temperature and it looks like an image, but it's actually a heat print pretty much. It's not We weren't talking about thermal wind shifts whenever it cools off or whatever. I messed that up, so maybe somebody else did he probably, so what you said made sense. I was just like, what do you mean thermals? I get it now.
Yeah, there's uh, you're probably not the only one out of the several thousands of people.
Yeah, it's kind of unfamiliar to tool to a lot of people. Yeah, you know, they were really expensive for a long time and they've yeah since became more affordable, and we actually got ours for free full disclosure. You know. One of those nice things about producing three hundred and twelve episodes of podcasts and four hundred and something YouTube videos is people will see that you will work for stuff. Yeah, so they send you stuff. Yeah.
But yeah, it's cool, dude, I mean it and not don't let it confuse you. It's a it's a like you said, it's a heat print, but it it looks like black and white video of a pig, like you know what I mean.
It's it's really cool.
So but if you don't really know what that is, or if you want to watch it period, go check it out.
It's on the YouTube channel.
It's a it's a kind of a longer watch show, something definitely put on like before bed or as you go to bed or whatever maybe or when you have some time. I think it's like forty minutes, and you don't have to watch the whole thing either.
But there's some cool stuff. There's a lot going on in video, you know.
But yeah, we got a bunch of cameras down there like we usually do, and we've got those multi ranch series feeders set up down there, and the pigs have been going nuts. I sent you a picture yesterday. There's two groups of pigs at the feeder and you can tell that there's like two like family groups or whatever they call them, sounders, right, and so like there's this one that's sitting off behind waiting on this front one to finish up so they can move in. It was like, I don't know how many pigs in that picture, but it seemed like one hundred. It's probably twenty five, but one hundred and twenty five.
It was a lot.
It's crazy, it was, man, it was I could count them, I guess. But yeah, yeah, there's there was a lot of them.
Man, Yeah, I was pretty And there's some red ones in there, which you know those are related to the red pig.
Dude, for sure. Can we make that happening in that red one was fat too?
Remember that?
Yeah?
I say, maybe a save fat off for it. I don't remember.
We saved her though, Oh that's the one that Greg cooked in the oven over Yeah, yeah, grease tasty.
Yeah. Yeah.
We also saved the head off this pig so we can make some I don't know, something tasty opinion. Big Head pig Rogan roasted Pighead Todd and the Monsters.
What is that a a band? Yeah?
Been around for gig listens to that for sure? They I was, you know, how immediate did that tour thing? They played like these theaters? They they did these like theaters. Well, one of the what do they call it? When they put the band names up on the Marque Marquee, it's had big big Head Todd in the Monsters, Big Head Todd, big Head Talk and Todd in the Monsters. I couldn't believe that they're still playing and turning because when we used to see it, like we played Granada Theater in Dallas, and you know they'd be on the dock at some point, you know. And I mean they've been around for forever. Dade's cool. Yeah, it's kind of like a a little bit of a andy band.
I like it.
Anything else you want to talk about, man, I want to fish so bad.
I can't stand it. But I don't know if people want to hear about it, that's for sure.
Man. I don't know. If I have anything else I might.
Need to just say that because we've been talking for a long time today already and fishing. The people want to hear about fishing in a couple of weeks, Like.
When I catch a big one on that swim bait I brought there to.
Tee you, dude around February fourteenth is a good time. Fourteenth dude, here's the deal, all right, a number of years in Texas on our local lake. I'm not going to tell you because you know it's a secret. I have seen fish on the beds the second week of February and then we'll get a cold front. It'll push them off. But like there's a window there that you can hit, and it's it is worth trying. So go out and get you some filats, good stuff. Remember being outdoorsman all the time. It's not just dear season. We're all about living in our elements, right.
That's right. I love a good elephant, lady. This is your element. Live in
