Hour 3 for 5/21/26

Drew and Dr. Gabriel X. Martinez discuss a new free course from Ave Maria University on Catholic Social Teaching and Economics (1:29). Then, Relevant Radio's General Counsel, Rick Gordon, joins Drew to discuss his recent meeting with Pope Leo (29:21), and his work with the Vatican Observatory (45:24). 

Links:

• https://www.thepursuitofwisdom.org/
• https://www.vaticanobservatory.org/
• https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/speeches/2026/may/documents/20260511-vof.html