This week, we’re getting serious. Serious about the price of the prison industrial complex. Fred Bell from The Debt Collective, the nation’s first debtors union, joins X Mayo to unpack each of their experiences with carceral debt. Fred talks about the financial realities of our prison system, the shame surrounding the cycle of debt, and how the Debt Collective is organizing to abolish it all. 

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