Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey, what up with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Coming to here from the Tyraq dot Com studios tyraq dot com. We'll you get there. Unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road as protection, over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyraq dot com Sway tire buying should be Hey, welcome in. So I thought we could do something kind of cool here. Okay, So my intent with this radio show while coaching college basketball is I don't ever want to force it to be about something that's not Okay. I don't because I live in Green Bay and we have the NFL Draft upcoming in Green Bay. I think naturally, as we're gonna be broadcasting live from the kind of the draft area, kind of compound area, I think all of that stuff makes sense once we get to what is that the week of April twenty first and leading up to it, and we can talk about it. It's very unique, and when I can correlate things going on in our basketball program to things going on and the rest of sports, great. But I don't want to force it, right, We're not going to force things that don't make sense. But we're on the second day of the portal being officially open and college basketball's season. It's still not at its crescendo. Right. We got the Sweet sixteen followed by the Final Four. But the guys, just like so many of my friends, are texting me about the portal and about what this time of year, what it's actually like. So I thought, why the heck would I not use my experience as a resource for people to find out about something that everyone talks about but very few people know about. Right. Is that a fair depiction of it?

Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey, what up with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Coming to here from the Tyraq dot Com studios tyraq dot com. We'll you get there. Unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road as protection, over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyraq dot com Sway tire buying should be Hey, welcome in. So I thought we could do something kind of cool here. Okay, So my intent with this radio show while coaching college basketball is I don't ever want to force it to be about something that's not Okay. I don't because I live in Green Bay and we have the NFL Draft upcoming in Green Bay. I think naturally, as we're gonna be broadcasting live from the kind of the draft area, kind of compound area, I think all of that stuff makes sense once we get to what is that the week of April twenty first and leading up to it, and we can talk about it. It's very unique, and when I can correlate things going on in our basketball program to things going on and the rest of sports, great. But I don't want to force it, right, We're not going to force things that don't make sense. But we're on the second day of the portal being officially open and college basketball's season. It's still not at its crescendo. Right. We got the Sweet sixteen followed by the Final Four. But the guys, just like so many of my friends, are texting me about the portal and about what this time of year, what it's actually like. So I thought, why the heck would I not use my experience as a resource for people to find out about something that everyone talks about but very few people know about. Right. Is that a fair depiction of it?

Right?

Right?

So I think we should play a little ask the coach.

So I think we should play a little ask the coach.

There's a question the needs an answer.

There's a question the needs an answer.

And the answer is if only.

And the answer is if only.

There was someone with the authority and the wisdom to give us that answer.

There was someone with the authority and the wisdom to give us that answer.

No, head coach, I get to set the schedule.

No, head coach, I get to set the schedule.

Hold on, let's ask the coach.

Hold on, let's ask the coach.

Okay, So remember the wisdom is a big thing. I am also again, and I'm I'm like that, maybe it's a mistake, but I tell everybody, like, look, I'm learning as I go. I don't. I never walk into a room like I know everything. Dan knows everything, Okay, like Dan. We always go to Dan because Dan actually studies. He's the guy who we always like, you know, we cheat up his paper a little bit in school. But job, Yes, thank you Dan. Who's got the first question for the coach?

Okay, So remember the wisdom is a big thing. I am also again, and I'm I'm like that, maybe it's a mistake, but I tell everybody, like, look, I'm learning as I go. I don't. I never walk into a room like I know everything. Dan knows everything, Okay, like Dan. We always go to Dan because Dan actually studies. He's the guy who we always like, you know, we cheat up his paper a little bit in school. But job, Yes, thank you Dan. Who's got the first question for the coach?

Go on? I go well, well, Jason Stewart, Fox Sports Radio.

Go on? I go well, well, Jason Stewart, Fox Sports Radio.

Yeah, Jason, go ahead, Doug.

Yeah, Jason, go ahead, Doug.

What is the most challenging part of the transfer portal?

What is the most challenging part of the transfer portal?

Oh, trying to figure out where you stand, you know, because because the portal is open to enter in the portal anytime over the next thirty days. So we've had a couple of players who very early on since we got done, said hey, I'm going to the portal. We knew it's good. I've had a couple discussions with a couple more kids when they got back from spring break who said, hey, I'm going into the portal. I say that because you know, I got a pretty good heads up on everything within my own program. But knowing when you talk to one of these kids, it's like, okay, he wants to visit. Well, now they have unlimited visits so they can visit as many schools as they want. So previously there used to be five visits. You can only visit five places if they're visiting when you're like, oh what, we're in pretty good shape. Now there's unlimited visits. So it's like where do we really stand? I think finding where you really stand with people is the hardest thing or the most challenging thing with your own players and with potential incoming players. Oh we got one, we got one in the back. Is that yeah?

Oh, trying to figure out where you stand, you know, because because the portal is open to enter in the portal anytime over the next thirty days. So we've had a couple of players who very early on since we got done, said hey, I'm going to the portal. We knew it's good. I've had a couple discussions with a couple more kids when they got back from spring break who said, hey, I'm going into the portal. I say that because you know, I got a pretty good heads up on everything within my own program. But knowing when you talk to one of these kids, it's like, okay, he wants to visit. Well, now they have unlimited visits so they can visit as many schools as they want. So previously there used to be five visits. You can only visit five places if they're visiting when you're like, oh what, we're in pretty good shape. Now there's unlimited visits. So it's like where do we really stand? I think finding where you really stand with people is the hardest thing or the most challenging thing with your own players and with potential incoming players. Oh we got one, we got one in the back. Is that yeah?

We got question? Yes, question?

We got question? Yes, question?

Dan Bayer Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. The question that I have is do you refresh the portal daily or to get updates? Like obviously you speak with your players, but to find out who else is out there?

Dan Bayer Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. The question that I have is do you refresh the portal daily or to get updates? Like obviously you speak with your players, but to find out who else is out there?

How do you go about doing that?

How do you go about doing that?

Okay, so I'm going to Now I'm going to share some industry secrets. You ready, So all of the big agencies and then even all the mom and pops. They have lists that have been circulating for probably about a month and a half of guys that have either said they're going in the portal, or talk with some representation, or there's a pretty good sense. It doesn't mean every one of those guys are going into the portal, but what it does is it allows you to kind of pre plan for if this guy goes in these here's the representation, here's the avenue.

Okay, so I'm going to Now I'm going to share some industry secrets. You ready, So all of the big agencies and then even all the mom and pops. They have lists that have been circulating for probably about a month and a half of guys that have either said they're going in the portal, or talk with some representation, or there's a pretty good sense. It doesn't mean every one of those guys are going into the portal, but what it does is it allows you to kind of pre plan for if this guy goes in these here's the representation, here's the avenue.

Whatever.

Whatever.

We use an analytics company, it's called HDI. I'll give them some pub because what they can do is for our specific desires, and one of the things that we want to do is we want to at least evaluate, if not recruit. They write kids at our level who are from here, from here meeting Wisconsin, maybe a little bit Illinois, maybe a little bit in Minnesota. Because again, we feel like the way that we can separate ourselves is there's only four division schools in the state and you know, two of them are high majors, and we feel like we can separate ourselves by hey, come on home and and there's lots of players at our level. So the point is that, yes, we do refresh it. It is one of my coaches. It's in their office. He has the laptop open and you're constantly like refreshing, like ooh, look who just went in and there's actually a rating system on some of these sites as to who's the highest rated player currently in the portal. We also use our analysts company to know when it's updated players again that are from our area or have a couple of attributes that we're looking for. And you can do anything you can do based upon height, no reach, you can do based upon three point shooting percentage, assistant turn over ratio, rebound rate, whatever you want, and literally it can kind of handpick guys. The great thing about the pre Portal or Dark Portal and all those lists is you don't reach out to those guys, you don't tamper. It doesn't really do you any good to tamper anyway for the most part. Right that's like, all it's going to do is make you look bad. But what it does is it can prepare you so that when a kid gets into the portal, you can be you want to be one of the first to say, hey, we actually know who you are, we know where you're from, We talk to your people, and we think you'd be a good fit. And here's why. So yes, we keep the portal website always open, and our analytics company is constantly updating us, and we do so so that guys that we've kind of pre planned for, especially ones that are from the state of Wisconsin, maybe from Illinois, or have some tie to one of our coaches, whatever, the second that they go in, we feel like we can not only reach out, but we're also prepared for reaching out. We don't just when they go, hey, what do you think about my game? We've actually watched them play, so there's a lot of lot of video that you're watching as you go.

We use an analytics company, it's called HDI. I'll give them some pub because what they can do is for our specific desires, and one of the things that we want to do is we want to at least evaluate, if not recruit. They write kids at our level who are from here, from here meeting Wisconsin, maybe a little bit Illinois, maybe a little bit in Minnesota. Because again, we feel like the way that we can separate ourselves is there's only four division schools in the state and you know, two of them are high majors, and we feel like we can separate ourselves by hey, come on home and and there's lots of players at our level. So the point is that, yes, we do refresh it. It is one of my coaches. It's in their office. He has the laptop open and you're constantly like refreshing, like ooh, look who just went in and there's actually a rating system on some of these sites as to who's the highest rated player currently in the portal. We also use our analysts company to know when it's updated players again that are from our area or have a couple of attributes that we're looking for. And you can do anything you can do based upon height, no reach, you can do based upon three point shooting percentage, assistant turn over ratio, rebound rate, whatever you want, and literally it can kind of handpick guys. The great thing about the pre Portal or Dark Portal and all those lists is you don't reach out to those guys, you don't tamper. It doesn't really do you any good to tamper anyway for the most part. Right that's like, all it's going to do is make you look bad. But what it does is it can prepare you so that when a kid gets into the portal, you can be you want to be one of the first to say, hey, we actually know who you are, we know where you're from, We talk to your people, and we think you'd be a good fit. And here's why. So yes, we keep the portal website always open, and our analytics company is constantly updating us, and we do so so that guys that we've kind of pre planned for, especially ones that are from the state of Wisconsin, maybe from Illinois, or have some tie to one of our coaches, whatever, the second that they go in, we feel like we can not only reach out, but we're also prepared for reaching out. We don't just when they go, hey, what do you think about my game? We've actually watched them play, so there's a lot of lot of video that you're watching as you go.

Next question, Next question, coach gott Leiba Sam Kinsley here from the Des Moines Dispatch Gazette Sunday Times. I want you to elaborate and expound more on just kind of dealing with what's your protocol for dealing with like representation. Do guys players individually contact you? You get I'm sure like family members, you get agents, like, tell me more about that, and how do you kind of how do you put those round pieces into square holes?

Next question, Next question, coach gott Leiba Sam Kinsley here from the Des Moines Dispatch Gazette Sunday Times. I want you to elaborate and expound more on just kind of dealing with what's your protocol for dealing with like representation. Do guys players individually contact you? You get I'm sure like family members, you get agents, like, tell me more about that, and how do you kind of how do you put those round pieces into square holes?

I guess okay, so I have a very good working relationship with a couple of the top agents in the field. And look, just because some guys are not like they have you know, there's a guy in Detroit who's like, he's he's young, he's starting out, but he's got some good players. And generally, you know, I give them a sense of where we are budget wise, what type of kid we're thinking of, and then we usually talk about about players and you know, what we're looking for or whatever. I talk with agents. Some of it's with AU coaches. Hey, I got a kid. A lot of people, some of the most powerful people in the country right now are junior college coaches. Here's why junior college. If you went to junior college during any time in the last four or five years, you're going to get that year back. And so it's not just that you don't necessarily want to recruit junior college kids this year because junior college kids that come out this year they're considered freshmen. But what you want is, hey, this kid played for me four years ago or three years ago in junior college, which means he'll have another year left to play. So you call the junior college coaches and say, hey, who do you have, who did you coach Who's going to be in the portal that fits what we need. So the answer is, do we talk to parents, yes, Do we talk to family members yes. Do we talk to AAU member coach Yes, do we talk to high school coaches. Yes, there's a kid who got in the portal yesterday we had been preparing for because he's a position of need. And you know, I talked to his high school coach, his former high school assistant, his AAU coach, and everybody, you know, so that I knew who I was talking to. I knew it kind of kid. The other part is like, you just don't want kids with issues like we're not. It's just we're not at the point where it's worth it to take kids with major issues. So we just want kids that want to come and play basketball and get better and hang out with some good dudes. So yes, you talk to all of them. Say I'm believe it or not. I mean, you know, it's interesting. I had a couple other non basketball phone calls to make, and I just sent a text like sometime yesterday like Hey, I'm just gonna apologize because this is literally the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep. Outside of doing the radio show and researching for the radio show, this is what I'm doing. I'm building my roster, both with my guys that I have because some of them are like, yeah, you know, it turns out I really want to stay and some of them are guys I want to leave, and I get it, and you know, like, look, a part of it is also like I want to have open, honest conversations even with the players who want to stay. And the reason is, you know, some of those guys like your role may have been bigger this year and then it will be next year because we have to get older, we have to get better. It doesn't mean I'm kicking you off the team. It just means that you're going to have to compete to even get back to where you have been over the past three months because we have to be demonstratively better. So the point is that do we talk to The answer is yes, we talked to everybody, and you have to be open. I had a talk with the assistant coach. You know, lots of people you push back on having an agent, and you say, like, well why do you guys like, look, if they've signed a deal with an agent, that's done. So all you got to do is, hey, let's make the basketball conversation about basketball, and the money conversation. We'll deal with the agents. And I actually like that because that's how I've always done in broadcasting. I've never talked money one time with a boss when I've been approached for jobs, or even when I was at ESPN i resigned several times over, or I was at Fox and I resigned several times over. I've never ever talked money with the boss. That's what do I have an agent for. That's their job. You guys handle the money so it doesn't get itchy between me and my boss.

I guess okay, so I have a very good working relationship with a couple of the top agents in the field. And look, just because some guys are not like they have you know, there's a guy in Detroit who's like, he's he's young, he's starting out, but he's got some good players. And generally, you know, I give them a sense of where we are budget wise, what type of kid we're thinking of, and then we usually talk about about players and you know, what we're looking for or whatever. I talk with agents. Some of it's with AU coaches. Hey, I got a kid. A lot of people, some of the most powerful people in the country right now are junior college coaches. Here's why junior college. If you went to junior college during any time in the last four or five years, you're going to get that year back. And so it's not just that you don't necessarily want to recruit junior college kids this year because junior college kids that come out this year they're considered freshmen. But what you want is, hey, this kid played for me four years ago or three years ago in junior college, which means he'll have another year left to play. So you call the junior college coaches and say, hey, who do you have, who did you coach Who's going to be in the portal that fits what we need. So the answer is, do we talk to parents, yes, Do we talk to family members yes. Do we talk to AAU member coach Yes, do we talk to high school coaches. Yes, there's a kid who got in the portal yesterday we had been preparing for because he's a position of need. And you know, I talked to his high school coach, his former high school assistant, his AAU coach, and everybody, you know, so that I knew who I was talking to. I knew it kind of kid. The other part is like, you just don't want kids with issues like we're not. It's just we're not at the point where it's worth it to take kids with major issues. So we just want kids that want to come and play basketball and get better and hang out with some good dudes. So yes, you talk to all of them. Say I'm believe it or not. I mean, you know, it's interesting. I had a couple other non basketball phone calls to make, and I just sent a text like sometime yesterday like Hey, I'm just gonna apologize because this is literally the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep. Outside of doing the radio show and researching for the radio show, this is what I'm doing. I'm building my roster, both with my guys that I have because some of them are like, yeah, you know, it turns out I really want to stay and some of them are guys I want to leave, and I get it, and you know, like, look, a part of it is also like I want to have open, honest conversations even with the players who want to stay. And the reason is, you know, some of those guys like your role may have been bigger this year and then it will be next year because we have to get older, we have to get better. It doesn't mean I'm kicking you off the team. It just means that you're going to have to compete to even get back to where you have been over the past three months because we have to be demonstratively better. So the point is that do we talk to The answer is yes, we talked to everybody, and you have to be open. I had a talk with the assistant coach. You know, lots of people you push back on having an agent, and you say, like, well why do you guys like, look, if they've signed a deal with an agent, that's done. So all you got to do is, hey, let's make the basketball conversation about basketball, and the money conversation. We'll deal with the agents. And I actually like that because that's how I've always done in broadcasting. I've never talked money one time with a boss when I've been approached for jobs, or even when I was at ESPN i resigned several times over, or I was at Fox and I resigned several times over. I've never ever talked money with the boss. That's what do I have an agent for. That's their job. You guys handle the money so it doesn't get itchy between me and my boss.

Well, that's certain coach.

Well, that's certain coach.

That certainly sounds a little messy and open ended, but I guess that's the way they're doing.

That certainly sounds a little messy and open ended, but I guess that's the way they're doing.

Sounds mess Well, just the whole whole.

Sounds mess Well, just the whole whole.

Thing now with the transfer boll is just open and messy and just wide open. It's like, uh, tread and water in the ocean with all you know. You got guys staying, you got guys going, you got guys coming in.

Thing now with the transfer boll is just open and messy and just wide open. It's like, uh, tread and water in the ocean with all you know. You got guys staying, you got guys going, you got guys coming in.

When to contact them? When not to?

When to contact them? When not to?

You can't contact him until they're in the portal. Yes, there's there's their coach.

You can't contact him until they're in the portal. Yes, there's there's their coach.

I just hope you have unlimited texting and calling on your cell phones.

I just hope you have unlimited texting and calling on your cell phones.

I do have unlimited texting calling, all right?

I do have unlimited texting calling, all right?

Did yougog minutes? I don't know everybody has. I don't remember while since.

Did yougog minutes? I don't know everybody has. I don't remember while since.

The latitude for follow up questions, this is way too latitude.

The latitude for follow up questions, this is way too latitude.

But just me and the coach having a conversation right now, you did you just kind of editorialized.

But just me and the coach having a conversation right now, you did you just kind of editorialized.

Like your answer obviously, so he created.

Like your answer obviously, so he created.

His own answer like it's a mess, Like I didn't. Did I ever say it was a mess.

His own answer like it's a mess, Like I didn't. Did I ever say it was a mess.

I just it's the way I'm interpreting. It's very, it's very It's just so much wider in scope now than it ever was.

I just it's the way I'm interpreting. It's very, it's very It's just so much wider in scope now than it ever was.

We can get this back on truck Dan Barr A question.

We can get this back on truck Dan Barr A question.

I just, I just I was surprised that Sam gave you more of a coach could you talk about sort of question?

I just, I just I was surprised that Sam gave you more of a coach could you talk about sort of question?

That's and I think that's what he provided.

That's and I think that's what he provided.

It's disappointing. Disappointing.

It's disappointing. Disappointing.

Well, we got a lot of information out there from the from the there's no such thing of stupid questions department. Once you entered the transfer portal, could you go back to the school?

Well, we got a lot of information out there from the from the there's no such thing of stupid questions department. Once you entered the transfer portal, could you go back to the school?

Well, it depends on the school, depends on the school, you know, again, depends on the school, depends on the kid, depends on the relationship with the coach. But the answer is you can, but you they don't have to take you back.

Well, it depends on the school, depends on the school, you know, again, depends on the school, depends on the kid, depends on the relationship with the coach. But the answer is you can, but you they don't have to take you back.

I would be I would have a tough time if I was a coach having my emotions not getting in the way, if I just found out a kid put his name in and then being like, oh and now you want to come back, sorry, I would have a tough time.

I would be I would have a tough time if I was a coach having my emotions not getting in the way, if I just found out a kid put his name in and then being like, oh and now you want to come back, sorry, I would have a tough time.

Taking a kid back if he just jumped in.

Taking a kid back if he just jumped in.

Yeah, that's awkward.

Yeah, that's awkward.

It's very it's very awkward. Some some schools say, hey, you can can't use our facility anymore, but it is completely up to the coach's choice. What I have chosen to do is you can use the facility. We're not turning off your card, but you can't use the locker room and you can't get into our our workouts. So are the guys play pick up basketball after the workouts? And I don't know, you know the number of guys who are on campus that are in the portal, because again, all the guys that are not in the portal that are on campus, we check in with them every day and we see them has come to workouts and they come through the office or whenever the other guys do not. But I'm not doing this like hey, you're not welcome here, Like you know, there's a reason that there's there's a very reasonable reason why all of them though I don't agree with two of my guys that are that are leaving and why they're leaving, but again they're allowed to and I'm I'm gonna help them. I'm just different than some people. I don't know how it works for everybody. Some guys get super bitter, some guys do not. Some guys come and they're just like, hey, get rid of everybody. I've had several coaches say like, just get rid of everybody, start over, and I'm like, I don't think we win here that way. I think we win here with the guys that were in the fight, that kept fighting through the losing streak, that want to get better understanding. The role may change for the lesser next year, but they're all All they want to do is win, and those guys we want to keep. Those guys are glue. Any other ones, OK, No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.

It's very it's very awkward. Some some schools say, hey, you can can't use our facility anymore, but it is completely up to the coach's choice. What I have chosen to do is you can use the facility. We're not turning off your card, but you can't use the locker room and you can't get into our our workouts. So are the guys play pick up basketball after the workouts? And I don't know, you know the number of guys who are on campus that are in the portal, because again, all the guys that are not in the portal that are on campus, we check in with them every day and we see them has come to workouts and they come through the office or whenever the other guys do not. But I'm not doing this like hey, you're not welcome here, Like you know, there's a reason that there's there's a very reasonable reason why all of them though I don't agree with two of my guys that are that are leaving and why they're leaving, but again they're allowed to and I'm I'm gonna help them. I'm just different than some people. I don't know how it works for everybody. Some guys get super bitter, some guys do not. Some guys come and they're just like, hey, get rid of everybody. I've had several coaches say like, just get rid of everybody, start over, and I'm like, I don't think we win here that way. I think we win here with the guys that were in the fight, that kept fighting through the losing streak, that want to get better understanding. The role may change for the lesser next year, but they're all All they want to do is win, and those guys we want to keep. Those guys are glue. Any other ones, OK, No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.

Hold on, let's ask the coach. This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show on Fox Sports.

Hold on, let's ask the coach. This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show on Fox Sports.

Radio Stut gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And anyone who's played against his teams not surprised from the times that his team's terrorized us when I was at Oklahoma State to what he's done before, and since Calvin Samson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach, his team's in the sweet sixteen yet again and a favorite across all boards to reach the final fourties, kind of have to spend some time this year on Fox Sports Radio. Coach, how are.

Radio Stut gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And anyone who's played against his teams not surprised from the times that his team's terrorized us when I was at Oklahoma State to what he's done before, and since Calvin Samson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach, his team's in the sweet sixteen yet again and a favorite across all boards to reach the final fourties, kind of have to spend some time this year on Fox Sports Radio. Coach, how are.

You going good? You're still one of the top point guards, leading a three on one, two on one, three on two past break automatic. You were going to find the right guy.

You going good? You're still one of the top point guards, leading a three on one, two on one, three on two past break automatic. You were going to find the right guy.

We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court, maybe not as much, and you didn't have to guard me, so you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's your assessment of how your team played first weekend of the tournament.

We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court, maybe not as much, and you didn't have to guard me, so you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's your assessment of how your team played first weekend of the tournament.

Well, the first game, it was all about mindset and maturity, making sure your your leaders are dialed in because you know every game is important. You know you get the one sixteen. But our team has been able to be good this year because of our player leadership, and so I give a lot of credit to that game to l J. Chrier and uh J One Roberts. Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. Then Dagga game was a one of those games. When I saw the brackets I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, if it's Gonzaga, that's gonna be a holy war marking the Zaga program. Is there weren't benchmark programs in the in the country over how many years. I mean they went to night who goes to ninth straight sweet sixteen.

Well, the first game, it was all about mindset and maturity, making sure your your leaders are dialed in because you know every game is important. You know you get the one sixteen. But our team has been able to be good this year because of our player leadership, and so I give a lot of credit to that game to l J. Chrier and uh J One Roberts. Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. Then Dagga game was a one of those games. When I saw the brackets I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, if it's Gonzaga, that's gonna be a holy war marking the Zaga program. Is there weren't benchmark programs in the in the country over how many years. I mean they went to night who goes to ninth straight sweet sixteen.

Gonzaga too, Yeah, unbelievable.

Gonzaga too, Yeah, unbelievable.

And and they were playing their best basketball when they put Huffs at the fourth spot, and that means they started two fives yeah each and Huff And I knew that was gonna be tough because if you haven't double the post on both sides of the floor. As good as nim Hart is they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I thought we were dialed into that game as well. Played really, really good until the last two minutes and their half court one three one trap gave us some problems. But you know, when you get to the tournament, Doug, and you win a game, the last thing you want to do is go backwards and hand life that you just survive in advance and move on.

And and they were playing their best basketball when they put Huffs at the fourth spot, and that means they started two fives yeah each and Huff And I knew that was gonna be tough because if you haven't double the post on both sides of the floor. As good as nim Hart is they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I thought we were dialed into that game as well. Played really, really good until the last two minutes and their half court one three one trap gave us some problems. But you know, when you get to the tournament, Doug, and you win a game, the last thing you want to do is go backwards and hand life that you just survive in advance and move on.

I want to get to this year's team and and this week and this weekend. But like for people who I don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job. It just was. It was friends and family only nobody went. Obviously, back when it was hoff Hinz, it was a decrepit old building. They threw a bunch of money into it. It's beautiful now. But look, you you're a builder, right from from Montana Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great when you took it over to Indiana when he took it over? What has what has this build been like in comparison to the others.

I want to get to this year's team and and this week and this weekend. But like for people who I don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job. It just was. It was friends and family only nobody went. Obviously, back when it was hoff Hinz, it was a decrepit old building. They threw a bunch of money into it. It's beautiful now. But look, you you're a builder, right from from Montana Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great when you took it over to Indiana when he took it over? What has what has this build been like in comparison to the others.

I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren being with me. You know, when I was with the Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know, my agent goes, okay, there's three FOURT schools. This almost to interview you, this wants to hire you. This onemost to press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized in all of them. But as the stars started aligning a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachian's Bake. You know that's my son. I know what kind of person he is. I know his work as a. I know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter Lauren was then a stop where she was doing pretty good, but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable, and so I said, I told the athletics break at the time, Mac Rhodes, if you can find a way to allow me to hire telling and then bring Lauren in the next year, I think we can get this done. So this one has been the most fun. I think this one has been by far the hardest because of the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to Fi Slama Jama and you know, almost forty years ago, so we didn't really have a lot to build on. So we just started building. You know, sometimes you inherit a winning program. Sometimes you got to build a winning program. But been able to do it by with my family and Karen here. You know, That's that's why this has been the best job I've ever had, because that's you know, my grandkids live three miles away. I see my my two kids every day. We go through this journey together and it's been just a thrill of a lifetime for me. It's an unbelievable way too. You know, obviously this is gonna be my last thoughts and when I decided to Okay, that's it. Uh, I'll look back at my time at University of Houston as the as the uh best time in my career.

I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren being with me. You know, when I was with the Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know, my agent goes, okay, there's three FOURT schools. This almost to interview you, this wants to hire you. This onemost to press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized in all of them. But as the stars started aligning a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachian's Bake. You know that's my son. I know what kind of person he is. I know his work as a. I know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter Lauren was then a stop where she was doing pretty good, but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable, and so I said, I told the athletics break at the time, Mac Rhodes, if you can find a way to allow me to hire telling and then bring Lauren in the next year, I think we can get this done. So this one has been the most fun. I think this one has been by far the hardest because of the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to Fi Slama Jama and you know, almost forty years ago, so we didn't really have a lot to build on. So we just started building. You know, sometimes you inherit a winning program. Sometimes you got to build a winning program. But been able to do it by with my family and Karen here. You know, That's that's why this has been the best job I've ever had, because that's you know, my grandkids live three miles away. I see my my two kids every day. We go through this journey together and it's been just a thrill of a lifetime for me. It's an unbelievable way too. You know, obviously this is gonna be my last thoughts and when I decided to Okay, that's it. Uh, I'll look back at my time at University of Houston as the as the uh best time in my career.

What will be the determining factor? I mean, you know how how it works when you when you become so well respected and you've built it up to this point and you you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to take over. You got to make that tough decision. What will be the determined factor as to when you decide I'm not going to do this.

What will be the determining factor? I mean, you know how how it works when you when you become so well respected and you've built it up to this point and you you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to take over. You got to make that tough decision. What will be the determined factor as to when you decide I'm not going to do this.

Yeah, the question, and I really am not sure even how to answer it. I do know that this is very much a young man's a young man's time. You know. I came up in the eighties and nineties, and you know, Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech took a chance on a twenty five year old guy, Washington State took a chance on a thirty one year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had to turn those jobs down for it even got to me. So but when I look back and then I look forward, you always want to leave the place that you were in better shape, and obviously this one is. But I also want to make sure that Kellen is in a position where he's got a chance to win right away too. So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going to coach on next season, and then you know, you just never know. I mean, I may be here five more years, I may be here four more years. I don't know. I doubt it, but you never know, you do know. No.

Yeah, the question, and I really am not sure even how to answer it. I do know that this is very much a young man's a young man's time. You know. I came up in the eighties and nineties, and you know, Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech took a chance on a twenty five year old guy, Washington State took a chance on a thirty one year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had to turn those jobs down for it even got to me. So but when I look back and then I look forward, you always want to leave the place that you were in better shape, and obviously this one is. But I also want to make sure that Kellen is in a position where he's got a chance to win right away too. So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going to coach on next season, and then you know, you just never know. I mean, I may be here five more years, I may be here four more years. I don't know. I doubt it, but you never know, you do know. No.

Kevin Sampson's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's get to this weekend. So now you know, Purdue a team that reputation wise rugged Big ten, but no one has the defensive reputation your team, your team has. What's what's the biggest challenge. You've done the Sweet sixteen, you've done the Final four so often, what's the biggest challenge for this group in getting ready for Purdue.

Kevin Sampson's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's get to this weekend. So now you know, Purdue a team that reputation wise rugged Big ten, but no one has the defensive reputation your team, your team has. What's what's the biggest challenge. You've done the Sweet sixteen, you've done the Final four so often, what's the biggest challenge for this group in getting ready for Purdue.

First of all, we respect your opponent, you know, forget what other people saying things that's irrelevant to your to your mission. Our missions to play our best brand of basketball art. You know, we have a clear identity. Don't know how we play, and I think when you get in the tournament sometimes the bright lights and all the attention can chain some kids. And my little Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's got two games under his belt. I like the way he handled the moment. So, you know, for us is being good at the things we're good at. You can't always assume you're going to shoot the ball great, you can't always assume that you're going to get a great whistle. Those are things that are out of your control. So being able to, you know, play defense and rebounding, doing the things this god is here. You know, we've won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights we shot it good, some nights we didn't. Well. We always found a way to win the game. And I think that's been our identity. If you watch this not very good offensively, you watched this late a lot more symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our offensive rebounds rebound has been a little bit more consistent than the physical nature of the game. Last year we played A and M in the second round in Memphis. I think both teams went to the line fifty times a piece and we have four guys file out. But that was a that was a tight whistle because bag game the other night was a little bit of a looser whistle. So those are things that the players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it a little bit.

First of all, we respect your opponent, you know, forget what other people saying things that's irrelevant to your to your mission. Our missions to play our best brand of basketball art. You know, we have a clear identity. Don't know how we play, and I think when you get in the tournament sometimes the bright lights and all the attention can chain some kids. And my little Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's got two games under his belt. I like the way he handled the moment. So, you know, for us is being good at the things we're good at. You can't always assume you're going to shoot the ball great, you can't always assume that you're going to get a great whistle. Those are things that are out of your control. So being able to, you know, play defense and rebounding, doing the things this god is here. You know, we've won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights we shot it good, some nights we didn't. Well. We always found a way to win the game. And I think that's been our identity. If you watch this not very good offensively, you watched this late a lot more symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our offensive rebounds rebound has been a little bit more consistent than the physical nature of the game. Last year we played A and M in the second round in Memphis. I think both teams went to the line fifty times a piece and we have four guys file out. But that was a that was a tight whistle because bag game the other night was a little bit of a looser whistle. So those are things that the players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, well, coach, listen, it's not our to catch up with you. Uh. We all watch and marvel at what you're able to do, how hard they're able to compete, and uh, and I know this team is better offensively obviously. You know, in the last year you had a tough injury that really ended ended to run unfortunately. But best of luck this weekend, and thanks so much for spend some time with us.

Yeah, yeah, well, coach, listen, it's not our to catch up with you. Uh. We all watch and marvel at what you're able to do, how hard they're able to compete, and uh, and I know this team is better offensively obviously. You know, in the last year you had a tough injury that really ended ended to run unfortunately. But best of luck this weekend, and thanks so much for spend some time with us.

Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's the luck to you in year two.

Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's the luck to you in year two.

Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I appreciate it. That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston. I will point this out. And did you guys watch the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did Jay stew were you watching? I know byer you were watching that. I'm sure were you working at the time. I'm trying to get my time of what it was because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside. Were you on air fire during the end of the.

Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I appreciate it. That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston. I will point this out. And did you guys watch the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did Jay stew were you watching? I know byer you were watching that. I'm sure were you working at the time. I'm trying to get my time of what it was because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside. Were you on air fire during the end of the.

Maryland No, I did the show with Mike Harmon yesterday.

Maryland No, I did the show with Mike Harmon yesterday.

Yes, okay.

Yes, okay.

So did you happen to catch the end of it?

So did you happen to catch the end of it?

Yes?

Yes?

Okay. I want to make sure, like I don't want to speak at it at a term, it was a really that was a fun game to watch, really competitive, and at the very end of the game, the very end of the game, Colorado State gets a huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake it's only interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State. You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta Max. They still make you, only to be outdone by a kidnamed Derek Queen who's star freshman center for Maryland. Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen and nine gonna be a first round pick. And there's a couple of different parts to it. First, here's let's just get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard, who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen the ball At the end of the game, I.

Okay. I want to make sure, like I don't want to speak at it at a term, it was a really that was a fun game to watch, really competitive, and at the very end of the game, the very end of the game, Colorado State gets a huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake it's only interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State. You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta Max. They still make you, only to be outdone by a kidnamed Derek Queen who's star freshman center for Maryland. Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen and nine gonna be a first round pick. And there's a couple of different parts to it. First, here's let's just get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard, who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen the ball At the end of the game, I.

Asked everybody, I said, who wants the ball?

Asked everybody, I said, who wants the ball?

And he said, give me the MF ball and I said, you're getting it, and I said, don't mess around, go after it and do it.

And he said, give me the MF ball and I said, you're getting it, and I said, don't mess around, go after it and do it.

And I give a lot, right, man, the big dog came up and.

And I give a lot, right, man, the big dog came up and.

Throw all right, So that part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me the ball and he goes and gets a bucket and he caught it basically top of the key sweepes, goes to his left hand and shoots a kind of runner pull up off his right foot with a bank shot, and that's what it's a hard shot. It was good defense, even better offense. And I think it was over cam Heidie Cameron Heidi who played last year for Produce. So I mean it's like he's going against a high level defender. And what happens on social media is that's a travel. That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right, Jean's sterotor comes out. Jean's sterritor is there? What's the term? He's their official the rules analysts or something right, and Jean's of course from NFL ref but also college basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean I don't really see a travel there, like you know it. He kind of explains the gathering rule whatever. And yet even to today, like if you want to peruse into social media, you get people like it is to travel, I thought, Nico medved he was like, I don't know, I didn't call it, so it's not a travel like I even he hadn't even seen I have even thought about it. And there's a couple of different parts to it. Here's the first important part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing. I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if you're dare queen and you travel, it's a lot like when you misspeak or you yet you're syntax is off in the English language, it just feels weird, is it is? Or are I'm always confused? Right if you use the wrong tense, or you know the wrong pro now and you've used the wrong verb. You use these like it feels weird. Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And Derek Queen's a young kid. Think he's like nineteen years old, so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know, twelve years, ten twelve years, like you get it. And if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd be like, eh, yeah, I'll count it. None of that happened. But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become. This is who we've become, and I get it. We want an upset so badly Colorado State felt like an upset against Maryland right that you'll do anything to point out the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean we need it to be artificial. We don't need it to be like, you know, he gets the ball and he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops is like what the heck? And then he lays the ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't a travel. He had no one in the stand or on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It may have left a little different to you because he jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until it was I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay, this is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, Like, what are we really doing? Why have we found the need to find flaw in everything? This is the Sidney Crawford has a mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole. Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has a mole? Been like Sidney Crawford wants to go out with you, You're like, I don't know she's got a mole. No, I'm just not in the like, moles creep me out and I can't stop staring at them. No, you're going out with Sidney Crawford. And I know the Sidney Crawford reference might be a little bit too old, right, but Sidney Crawford, by the way, is still hot. I don't think anybody would still point out she's like sixty and she's still amazing. So we have to stop this. We have to stop finding flaw or controversy or a conspiracy in literally everything. Derek Queen just made a really, really hard shot. Maryland's gonna move on it. Sucks. If you were super invested into Colorado State basketball for the last weekend or if you followed this team all year, it's been a really cool story. But I mean, even the opposing coach was not like it was a blatant travel whatever. They got away with it. It's like, I don't know, right, So I just how do we become those people? Dan, did you think it was a blatant travel?

Throw all right, So that part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me the ball and he goes and gets a bucket and he caught it basically top of the key sweepes, goes to his left hand and shoots a kind of runner pull up off his right foot with a bank shot, and that's what it's a hard shot. It was good defense, even better offense. And I think it was over cam Heidie Cameron Heidi who played last year for Produce. So I mean it's like he's going against a high level defender. And what happens on social media is that's a travel. That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right, Jean's sterotor comes out. Jean's sterritor is there? What's the term? He's their official the rules analysts or something right, and Jean's of course from NFL ref but also college basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean I don't really see a travel there, like you know it. He kind of explains the gathering rule whatever. And yet even to today, like if you want to peruse into social media, you get people like it is to travel, I thought, Nico medved he was like, I don't know, I didn't call it, so it's not a travel like I even he hadn't even seen I have even thought about it. And there's a couple of different parts to it. Here's the first important part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing. I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if you're dare queen and you travel, it's a lot like when you misspeak or you yet you're syntax is off in the English language, it just feels weird, is it is? Or are I'm always confused? Right if you use the wrong tense, or you know the wrong pro now and you've used the wrong verb. You use these like it feels weird. Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And Derek Queen's a young kid. Think he's like nineteen years old, so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know, twelve years, ten twelve years, like you get it. And if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd be like, eh, yeah, I'll count it. None of that happened. But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become. This is who we've become, and I get it. We want an upset so badly Colorado State felt like an upset against Maryland right that you'll do anything to point out the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean we need it to be artificial. We don't need it to be like, you know, he gets the ball and he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops is like what the heck? And then he lays the ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't a travel. He had no one in the stand or on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It may have left a little different to you because he jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until it was I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay, this is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, Like, what are we really doing? Why have we found the need to find flaw in everything? This is the Sidney Crawford has a mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole. Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has a mole? Been like Sidney Crawford wants to go out with you, You're like, I don't know she's got a mole. No, I'm just not in the like, moles creep me out and I can't stop staring at them. No, you're going out with Sidney Crawford. And I know the Sidney Crawford reference might be a little bit too old, right, but Sidney Crawford, by the way, is still hot. I don't think anybody would still point out she's like sixty and she's still amazing. So we have to stop this. We have to stop finding flaw or controversy or a conspiracy in literally everything. Derek Queen just made a really, really hard shot. Maryland's gonna move on it. Sucks. If you were super invested into Colorado State basketball for the last weekend or if you followed this team all year, it's been a really cool story. But I mean, even the opposing coach was not like it was a blatant travel whatever. They got away with it. It's like, I don't know, right, So I just how do we become those people? Dan, did you think it was a blatant travel?

No, I didn't think it was a travel at all. Right, I love that it was, but it wasn't.

No, I didn't think it was a travel at all. Right, I love that it was, but it wasn't.

Yeah, I mean, you have you have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours, like you didn't see much anything there. You're like, no, no, I know, I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You don't actually know how the rule is officiated. I just I don't know what to do with people like that. It'd be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know, it's kind of close, but you don't call it in that spot and there's some argument, but he was like, no that I don't even see it travel there. But that's who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's sitting there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she would you would never be able to ask her out every in your life. Yeah, but she's she's just too skinny.

Yeah, I mean, you have you have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours, like you didn't see much anything there. You're like, no, no, I know, I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You don't actually know how the rule is officiated. I just I don't know what to do with people like that. It'd be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know, it's kind of close, but you don't call it in that spot and there's some argument, but he was like, no that I don't even see it travel there. But that's who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's sitting there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she would you would never be able to ask her out every in your life. Yeah, but she's she's just too skinny.

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Okay, I love this part of the show. I tease Jay stew about it, but I tease him because I actually really liked this part of the show. Because you know, we all have that thing that we'd like to do, maybe even in our jobs, but we don't get to do right like I think that Jason Stewart would love. Like there's just a part of him that would love to be am uh a like morning rock station guy, cause that's and he kind of makes fun of it when he goes, thanks Doug, I'll take it from here. No, that's not it. Thanks Doug, gonna take it. He does that that deal, That's that's great. I've done most everything I I actually do secretly wish I had the skills of Sam where I could play the drops all the time. There's something is it called a short stop? What is that little box that I used to have one or whatever, but like a.

Okay, I love this part of the show. I tease Jay stew about it, but I tease him because I actually really liked this part of the show. Because you know, we all have that thing that we'd like to do, maybe even in our jobs, but we don't get to do right like I think that Jason Stewart would love. Like there's just a part of him that would love to be am uh a like morning rock station guy, cause that's and he kind of makes fun of it when he goes, thanks Doug, I'll take it from here. No, that's not it. Thanks Doug, gonna take it. He does that that deal, That's that's great. I've done most everything I I actually do secretly wish I had the skills of Sam where I could play the drops all the time. There's something is it called a short stop? What is that little box that I used to have one or whatever, but like a.

Hot hot button box, hot keybox.

Hot hot button box, hot keybox.

Replay yeah, replay machine, right, And I used to have one at one of my previous stops. And I think I think the reason it hasn't been offered up to me is because, you know, yeah, I'm like a little kid.

Replay yeah, replay machine, right, And I used to have one at one of my previous stops. And I think I think the reason it hasn't been offered up to me is because, you know, yeah, I'm like a little kid.

You know, I'll quote I'll quote our our boss Don Martin, my man. As soon as you give some hosts that replay, it just becomes silly madness. Now, Matt money Smith might be the greatest, the greatest manipulator of the replay machine in the history of radio. Agreed, him and Petros are pretty wacky with that stuff. My wife to my wife to night to night a lot of people don't know what we're talking about, but they are hoo to those two.

You know, I'll quote I'll quote our our boss Don Martin, my man. As soon as you give some hosts that replay, it just becomes silly madness. Now, Matt money Smith might be the greatest, the greatest manipulator of the replay machine in the history of radio. Agreed, him and Petros are pretty wacky with that stuff. My wife to my wife to night to night a lot of people don't know what we're talking about, but they are hoo to those two.

They know they are who Action Match Action much Hold on, We're like not even pressing drops for just yelling things.

They know they are who Action Match Action much Hold on, We're like not even pressing drops for just yelling things.

This is what I'm talking about, man. And then there's one of Petros who's like, ah, over.

This is what I'm talking about, man. And then there's one of Petros who's like, ah, over.

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People might recognize Petros because he does some games with FS one for college football and he's on jumps on two pros and.

People might recognize Petros because he does some games with FS one for college football and he's on jumps on two pros and.

It doesn't matter, I know, but because he plays relatively straight. Who doesn't love Petros.

It doesn't matter, I know, but because he plays relatively straight. Who doesn't love Petros.

He's a hoot.

He's a hoot.

He's he's and he's honestly super super talented as a yeah, as a college football analyst. Anyway, if we want to get to the like original great drop and this is I think pre dat Eading or maybe early on Jay stew in your tenure with Rome, because when Rome used to do a local radio in San Diego, they used to have people call in and order a drug test for people, and there was like a ping in the cup sound. Did you guys do that when you were there?

He's he's and he's honestly super super talented as a yeah, as a college football analyst. Anyway, if we want to get to the like original great drop and this is I think pre dat Eading or maybe early on Jay stew in your tenure with Rome, because when Rome used to do a local radio in San Diego, they used to have people call in and order a drug test for people, and there was like a ping in the cup sound. Did you guys do that when you were there?

Drug drug?

Drug drug?

That was a great that was a great drop. And you have people come in and like Rome first time long time.

That was a great that was a great drop. And you have people come in and like Rome first time long time.

Uh.

Uh.

I want to or a drug test for Stephen A. Smith for saying that had Lebron James put his hands on him when they were arguing about Brownie, he would have gone. He would he would have you know, he would have what is it, thrown hands? Is that the expression thrown hands at him?

I want to or a drug test for Stephen A. Smith for saying that had Lebron James put his hands on him when they were arguing about Brownie, he would have gone. He would he would have you know, he would have what is it, thrown hands? Is that the expression thrown hands at him?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Drug test?

Drug test?

You want drug drug drug drug?

You want drug drug drug drug?

Anyway, Now that's not the drop. Let's uh, let's get the don't call it a throwback.

Anyway, Now that's not the drop. Let's uh, let's get the don't call it a throwback.

Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

All right, Doug, I want our listeners to go back to two thousand and three. Rewind the clock to two thousand and three. Now, what were you doing in two thousand and three. I want each of you listeners to think of what you were doing with your headspace, was where you were in your wife, in your career. And then I want to introduce something that happened around this time twenty two years ago. Freshman out of Syracuse, Carmelo Anthony put the at the time named Orangeman on his back and carry them to Jim Beheim's first and only national championship. Carmelo Anthony had an amazing tournament that of course eclipsed in the final four when he beat Texas with thirty three points on twelve of nineteen shooting. He would go on to beat Roy Williams and Kansas in the next game.

All right, Doug, I want our listeners to go back to two thousand and three. Rewind the clock to two thousand and three. Now, what were you doing in two thousand and three. I want each of you listeners to think of what you were doing with your headspace, was where you were in your wife, in your career. And then I want to introduce something that happened around this time twenty two years ago. Freshman out of Syracuse, Carmelo Anthony put the at the time named Orangeman on his back and carry them to Jim Beheim's first and only national championship. Carmelo Anthony had an amazing tournament that of course eclipsed in the final four when he beat Texas with thirty three points on twelve of nineteen shooting. He would go on to beat Roy Williams and Kansas in the next game.

Again, you talk about Kansas and Roy Williams. Oh, what's Syracuse and Jim Beah.

Again, you talk about Kansas and Roy Williams. Oh, what's Syracuse and Jim Beah.

Are you doing the hands too?

Are you doing the hands too?

Doesn't He kind of wave his hands around a little bit, kind of like a little like lately, kind of a pageant wave, But he's like, Oh, that's all the enthusiasm.

Doesn't He kind of wave his hands around a little bit, kind of like a little like lately, kind of a pageant wave, But he's like, Oh, that's all the enthusiasm.

Doug, Who do you remember most about that two thousand and three NC double a tournament other than Carmelo?

Doug, Who do you remember most about that two thousand and three NC double a tournament other than Carmelo?

Well, there's two parts to it. One, Oklahoma State led that Circus team by I think seventeen points at the half in Boston Garden had lost. Secondly, was I never watched the game. That's the only tournament I never watched the game in. I was in France playing for Camo. It was after my first season of covering college basketball. I had a midday show in two thousand and two in Oklahoma City and into early two thousand and three, I called the Whack Championship Game, which I believe was feeding the Tulsa and Nevada and I was driving down four head back to Oklahoma City, where we had purchased our first home in Edgemere Park, Oklahoma City shout out to Edgemere Park, and I got a call from my then basketball agent, Michael Siegel, who said, if you leave tomorrow you can play in Portugal First Division. You'll go to the playoffs, and if you wait till the end of the week, then you go to France. There's a pro B team trying to move up to Pro A. Their point guard got hurt and it'd just be a month, but it would be able to get you kind of back in. You'd be Pro A next year if you want. I had started working for a guy named Larry Bastita and Oklahoma City, who is the head of I think it was a Cumulus station back then. I don't remember. Anyway, WWL is a sports animal, and I felt like I couldn't leave, like without saying goodbye or telling him I was going. So I was like, I'll take the one. At the end of the week, I went to France and this little pub that I got all my meals at for free playing for my club. They had Eurosport, and I watched highlights of that tournament. I didn't actually watch that tournament. I did know the Oklahoma State one only because when I got back, it was one of the first things I watched was the entirety of the Oklahoma State game where they had a big lead against Syracuse in the NCAA tournament and only to lose in the second half.

Well, there's two parts to it. One, Oklahoma State led that Circus team by I think seventeen points at the half in Boston Garden had lost. Secondly, was I never watched the game. That's the only tournament I never watched the game in. I was in France playing for Camo. It was after my first season of covering college basketball. I had a midday show in two thousand and two in Oklahoma City and into early two thousand and three, I called the Whack Championship Game, which I believe was feeding the Tulsa and Nevada and I was driving down four head back to Oklahoma City, where we had purchased our first home in Edgemere Park, Oklahoma City shout out to Edgemere Park, and I got a call from my then basketball agent, Michael Siegel, who said, if you leave tomorrow you can play in Portugal First Division. You'll go to the playoffs, and if you wait till the end of the week, then you go to France. There's a pro B team trying to move up to Pro A. Their point guard got hurt and it'd just be a month, but it would be able to get you kind of back in. You'd be Pro A next year if you want. I had started working for a guy named Larry Bastita and Oklahoma City, who is the head of I think it was a Cumulus station back then. I don't remember. Anyway, WWL is a sports animal, and I felt like I couldn't leave, like without saying goodbye or telling him I was going. So I was like, I'll take the one. At the end of the week, I went to France and this little pub that I got all my meals at for free playing for my club. They had Eurosport, and I watched highlights of that tournament. I didn't actually watch that tournament. I did know the Oklahoma State one only because when I got back, it was one of the first things I watched was the entirety of the Oklahoma State game where they had a big lead against Syracuse in the NCAA tournament and only to lose in the second half.

Well, what you did miss was a guy, a little named guy named Dwayne Wade leading Marquette I think into the Elite eight, and he would be in the same draft class with Carmel Well Anthony, who shared the draft class with Lebron James, arguably the greatest draft in the history of the NBA two thousand and three. That would happen three months later in June, Isaac. When you think back to two thousand and three, what comes to mind.